Powerless - Pulled from schedule by NBC

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NBC just cant win with DC shows. First Constantine now this.

How long until The CW saves it.

Good! Now if we can get rid of every other DC tv show then maybe television can finally start to improve

thank god for the inevitable writer's strike

and nothing of value was lost

Saw this shit coming years ago

It's shocking that they even gave it the greenlight for a season 1

>How long until The CW saves it.
Won't fit because it already has an already established Dc universe, and it's gonna be a bit old if CW keeps adopting disconnected Dc tv shows. First Supergirl, then this.

wasn't it a different premise before, and it got changed into this stupid shit?

Oh dang, I'm somewhat disappointed. I found the show mildly interesting, and I was hoping to sit down at watch it at some point in time.

>How long until The CW saves it.
Constantine, then Supergirl, Black Lightning too since it went from Fox to Cw. Gonna help them in the long run since they'll build a catalog of super hero shows and have a solid multiverse going.

I really liked the cast, shame the actual show wasn't good

Same writing team, production, director and actors, hardly any difference.

The plot of a superhero insurance company had a better central idea to it than whatever the hell was going on in the new series.
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Plus the one Green Lantern joke is miles better than what was on offer.

>a premise that's only good for maybe a 10 minute short failed as a full-length series
Who could've seen that coming

>Constantine, then Supergirl, Black Lightning too since it went from Fox to Cw
Cw is the super hero show orphanage

A lot of people who saw both the original and the aired pilot said the original was a lot better and didn't lean so hard on things like referencing Batman. I even saw some suggest it was basically a different show

>didn't lean so hard on things like referencing Batman
Unrelated, but Dc needs to clean up what their shows can and can't do. Cw have all these rules, Powerless could reference anyone they please, Gotham have all the Batman characters they could want, Supergirl has all the Superman and alien characters and barely shares with the rest of the Arrowverse

anyone who saw this show knew it was doomed. The last episode they aired played a repeat instead in some areas. network probably already planned to cancel it at episode 4

Damn Vanessa Hudgens just cant catch a break.

Whomp whomp, what a shame, I was just starting to like the show

Saw that one coming, no more weekly fix of Vanessa Judge's or Alan Tudyk such a shame

BRING BACK CONSTANTINE!!!!!

He has a short as hell cartoon coming later this year

Nah, the CW needs to save room for when Fox inevitably kills off Gotham.

Doesn't Fox own the tv rights to Batman?
If their attitude towards Fantastic Four and X-Men prove anything, they won't give up anything that lucrative.

>the rest of the Arrowverse
Well actually in the musical episode of the Flash Barry explicitly mentions to Kara that he's aware of/familiar with her cousin during one of their musical numbers/bits

And Gotham is only allowed to have "batman characters" at a cost. It's functioning the way Smallville did where Bruce can't suit up until the very ending. And that doesn't mean much anyway since the Arrowverse has Batman supporting characters and villains as well plus Wayne Tech exists.

Anyone can make references. That doesn't mean they can show it. The premise of Powerless is that it takes the focus away from heroes and focuses primarily on people who aren't superpowered but who have lives that are affected by those who are. We get occasional superheroes that they weren't going to use elsewhere like Fire but it's taking place in a pocket where some bigger characters simply aren't around. And one episode was literally about Teddy trying to get tracking device back to Batman and they never actually showed Batman. All the shows do this kind of shit including the Arrowverse.

Oh yeah that's right. They do own the tv rights.

Yea, but need live-action Constantine with Matt Ryan more than animated Matt Ryan Constantine

Yes, we do, but if Vixen's cartoon shows us anything, this cartoon could lead to more live action Constantine

Watch it turn out that they pulled the episode because of some news story that happened recently.

>Everything is just insurance jokes now.

Yeah, I don't think so.

This isn't surprising at all, it aired on NBC for gods sake. Unless it Law & Order or some sort of police procedural then it was doomed from the start.

Even Trial and Error apparently didn't do particularly well.

I think the Chicago series have dethroned Law & Order as NBC's golden goose. Only SVU is left of the latter.

Gotham is much to expensive for CW, and it's reaching syndication numbers anyway.

This looks so much better than what we got, what happened?

As long as it's by Dick Wolf, it's all good.

>thank god for the inevitable writer's strike

Why? They just had a strike in 2008 iirc

The original premise had even more issues

Apparently they're doing it again

It changed showrunners. That makes a significant difference.

Empowered when?

>just
>nearly a decade ago

Pick one

See

And they dropped and swapped some actors and likely the Showrunner took a few writers with them

Also if you pay attention to the timeline, it happens about every ten years 88-98-07-17

Doesn't have to be just that. Its a bunch of unpowered folks having to deliver Summons and stuff to Superheros.

Imagine some poor bastard in a rowboat with a Megaphone trying to get ahold of someone on Paradise Island to deliver a summons to Wonder Woman.

She ends up sending her intermediary The Goddess of Law Themis to court.

This could have been a damn fun show. Had the people in charge not been idiots.

Josh Halpern is usually given projects that look doomed to fail. A few weeks ago he was offering blowjobs to people with Neilson boxes

Why the fuck did they go with an R&D department? There's nothing outlandish or deceptive about it. You literally see an R&D department in every DC show so where's the comedic angle of it?

Well that wasn't originally what the show was about. But then after pilot feedback(I still think restructuring the show COMPLETELY based only on a pilot is a bad idea considering most pilots are garbage or not an accurate representation of the rest) they completely redid the pilot and the showrunner had left. So it's pretty much a completely different show than it was supposed to be.

It was supposed to be an insurance agency that dealt with superhero/supervillain related claims and probably would have been better off that way

People don't like him. And probably they are right, first season failed to take off cause nobody took the best of the humogous ammount of good stories hellblazer comics have.

>Hey guys, let's make a superhero show...not about superheroes!
>What could go wrong?

I hope someone gets shitcanned for this.

>People don't like him

What? People loved Matt Ryan as Constantine. I don't know what bizarro world you're posting from. People loved him enough to pressure DC/WB to let CW bring him back however they could(Arrow crossover ep and the upcoming animated series) as well as Ryan voicing him in the JLD animated movie.

Yeah, I know all that. I meant why R&D?

The insurance agency is something that's has both comedic relevance, from how many people recognize the concept of superheroes having a property damage fetish, and also audience relevance because it's not an atypical job. It's something at least an audience can connect to or apply itself to, like The Office. That seems like the entire crux of why the show even exists.

R&D isn't a regular job and the people who would work there wouldn't be regular joes. That seems like the complete opposite of what NBC would want.

Lucifer worked though

It would have been great. Using DC C and D-listers as those getting the most claims against them because they are low rank leaguers or unaffiliated.

This really could have been something in the vein of The Tick style humor had someone given a shit.

Because its Wayne R&D which means they are working on stuff Batman could use HUR HUR HUR. Damn this shit wasn't thought out beyond "hey lets make Batman Jokes."

Points for bringing in the obscure as hell Wayne Cousin are quickly lost because they do shit all with it that's actually funny.

Forced batman references. Tudyk's original character was completely different and not related to Bruce at all for starters

Which is a shame because Constantine at least took things from the comics and wasn't another irrelevant police procedural in disguise

>Which is a shame because Constantine at least took things from the comics and wasn't another irrelevant police procedural in disguise

Maybe that was the problem

DC has that new streaming service that probably gets around the "TV rights" thing. It might end up going there so they can pad their lineup.

Focus groups happened. Literally.

Again Fox owns Gotham. DC/WB can't just take it like that unless they let them. Which wouldn't be a very Fox move.

Damn, show was okay. Liked Van. Oh well.

The same thing that always happens when WB get nervous about superhero stuff. They go "How can we attach more Batman to this? so we get a show with a bunch of "Hey you know Batman! We're gonna reference him! A lot! Love us!"

In this case it seems partially to be the audiences fault since the restructuring of the show came after they had screenings of the original pilot

he wouldn't have to if he just had some sweet chobani money.

>Constantine
Are they giving him his own show because I only saw him on one episode of arrow hinting that he would be back while never being seen again.

but Constantine was boring

That's not surprising either. WB listens to focus groups at the worst possible times. They fucking ruined I Am Legend because of it

It was Tudyk's show

Kate Micucci was gonna be in it. Damn. She's hot.

Holy shit, someone else who listens to the adventures of Halpern's baby and brisket eating stories

I thought Bruce was the last Wayne. If he isn't then why would he inherit everything?

I'm interested in seeing the original pilot, which was apparently much better recieved.

Yhere were barely any Batman references outside of couple of episodes, one which was particularly great as Van was wearing a plastic Robin costume and wanted to be Batman's new sidekick.

There was some obscure-ass story from the 60s where Batman's cousin from out of town came to visit. I don't think he was ever mentioned again.

>Are they giving him his own show

He's getting a web series on CW Seed similar to Vixen. It's set in the Arrowverse.

Yea and they thought it would be funny to have him as their boss. Because Bruce is really into that kinda management.

Literally brain dead focus groups?

Ib4 Simpsons Down to Earth with Swarms of Magic Robots.

I mean who would see his and think its okay?

Well now his Position as a Stop Motion Actor is secure.

Meh, it wasn't good

It had promise and they ruined it. But fuck them ever admitting they screwed up.

Sucks to say but people just aren't into a basic mystery show. Unless its X-files or Supernatural. Which baffles the fuck out of me since the latter has Not Constantine in it.

Unsurprising. The ratings were shit.

I'm not supporting the strike, but writers should be taken more seriously, directors are overrated as fuck.

What a writer creates is static and unpolished. Directors have to actually bring it to life and make it entertaining. There's a reason why they get pad more. A good director makes or breaks a picture. A good writer is a dime a dozen

>you can't make a show based on how fuckable you make Vanessa Hudgens

Wow that was really different from what it ended up as.
>characters personalities are completely different
>some completely different characters
>completely different premise
I wonder if the original pilot will ever leak? Didn't they screen it at SDCC or something?

>no more weekly quirky Vanessa Hudgens
>no more weekly Vanessa Hudgens ass
Shame

I actually liked this one.

Will Constantine be in LoT S3?

technically Fox just owns the broadcast rights to Gotha. The actual production and show itself is owned by Warner Bros, but no one can broadcast or distribute it but Fox (at least for as long as the contract stipulates)

Well, it's fucking NBC.
Being surprised that the show is cancelled is the same as being surprised that there are lots of water after the rain.

>X-files
I don't understand how it's a cult classic. You've seen one episode, you've seen them all.

Like she ever showed off her ass on that show

It was the original Lore show. And also kit at just the right time to feed off of and perpertuate internet paranoia.

They don't have nearly as much leverage and numerous shows and movies have already been written

We might not even notice the impact depending on the timing

She wears basically nothing by skin tight pencil skirts.

Yea someone will likely leak it like the Wonder Woman show.

Has there ever been any talks from those that saw it?

>A good writer is a dime a dozen

Have fun during the strike.

Powerless? More like Viewerless.

Got paid to translate some episodes. Bearable, but very annoying - too much talk. Also, barely has anything to do with capeshit