Do you think Jack will actually go back in time, or will he accept the future as is and stay to improve on it?

Do you think Jack will actually go back in time, or will he accept the future as is and stay to improve on it?

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Sent further into the future to witness the end of if everything.

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Jack dies fighting Aku
Ashi goes back before Jack is born
Destroys Aku before it takes a sentient form
Grows older
Marries the Emperor
Gives birth to Jack

The time portals don't actually work

I hate to say this, but it's looking more and more likely that he's going to stay in the future. I'll be surprised if Jack actually goes back in time.

Why the fuck didn't he use the portal when those guys were controlled by Aku in last week's episode? Does he realize that they won't be controlled in the first place if Jack goes back to past?
Or will it work like DBZ where time travel creates alternate realities?

>final battle with Aku
>all of Jack's friends are present
>about to deliver killing blow
>Aku laughs and sends Jack even further into the future but takes his sword
>Aku is laughing with triumph, assuming he has won
>Jack arrives in the future, overcome with despair
>but he pauses and looks around, and notices it is beautiful
>finally he finds his friends but even older, including Ashi and Scottsman ghost
>Ashi took Jack's sword and killed Aku
>Ashi and his other friends are old, many of them have died
>but the world is saved
>the future is beautiful, and Jack finally finds a portal to return to the past
>but not to the far past, just to when Aku was killed by his friends
>he is made King for restoring hope and leading the final battle
>the Gods descend to earth and grant him the ability to age as a reward
>he lives all the way to the future day that he arrived in with Ashi and they finally die peacefully together
>his mother and father welcome him into the afterlife
>WATCH OUT

...

The whole point is to go "back to the past." He will most likely return to either his initial battle with Aku or to when he was a child and stop him from destroying his people. But that would be too obvious for Mr Tartakovsky.

though the second option will cause some serious paradoxal bullshit

I hope this happens

He will send Ashi back to the past. She will destroy Aku and undo the future, erasing Jack from existence and ending his immortal misery.

He'll stay and rebuild with Ashi as his wife.

Looking at the theme song, I think many people would be disappointed if he didn't.

A few episodes back I had similar thoughts.

>Jack getting cucked by his dad

>emoji girl was unvoiced and a one off character

If you mean that portal with archers, wasn't the wish well corrupted?

It still took a fuckload of time and suffering of previous generations.
Kind of bittersweet ending.

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No, going back in time mean literally killing everyone he's meet.

I always thought his quest was unwittingly selfish because undoing Aku's destruction would also erase all of the people he saved along the way. He's fuelled by his desire to return to his time and family.

Maybe Ashi will bring that up and Jack will realise he needs to let go of his old life and deal with Aku right now.

What about all the people who have suffered under Aku?

I really want some plot shenanigans to occur where Jack can go back in time with peace of mind. Not going back in time would mean countless millions would have suffered without any hope of justice.

Perhaps the Scotsman and the rest would still be born eventually, albeit under happier times and Jack is happy with that. Or Aku flat-out destroys the world anyway so there's no reason NOT to go back in time.

>Aku voices the intro to the original show
>Jack voices the new season
He's fucking toast

>Jack gets mortally wounded in his final fight against Aku
>all the people he's saved join together for one last push and help destroy him
>Aku's black mass transforms into the very last portal
>everyone helps to carry Jack and throw him into it
>gets to see his homeland for a few minutes before finally passing away, his mission over and journey completed

If he goes back in time, Aku's still alive there.
Also just dumping the guy through the portal when he's gonna die is not bro behaviour wtf

in the comics he accepts he cant go back home but i think theyre going a different route with it since they made a new work to replace the comics itd kind of suck storytelling wise to have him feel guilty over leaving everyone in the past to the point of almost killing himself then just have him saying nah screw it im going to stay here hallucination dad was right

My guess is two timlines get created after Aku is destroyed, one is Aku future world (with no more Aku) and a pure past world free of Aku's influence where Jack's parents are alive and history procedes as normal.

Jack chooses to stay in future no-more-Aku world to help rebuild it with Ashi.

I think Jack will die fighting Aku, and the series ends with Ashi teaching their kid martial arts.

Butterfly effect would mean all of them would cease to exist, bar the ones alive at the turning point.

What if the portal only goes back 20 minutes?

Jack will never recover his sword because he is no longer pure.
Instead he will find a way to travel back in time to before he got flung forward in time.
He will go save his past self, then take the portal that Aku makes back to the future and experience the world his past self created. The same people are there, but simply shifted as if Aku never existed.

There's a reason he's got this appearance and the beard. He's finally ready to use the gardian's portal.

they already did the "he stays in the future" ambiguous type of ending in the comics

That thing fucks you up with wishes.

He would probably go back in time and become a monster bounded to protect the wishing wheel.

That is correct.
From the villager's perspective however they had no way of knowing that.

>by the time Jack gets to Aku to fight him, Aku is so bored that he just leaves Earth and never returns
>Jack's entire purpose ends up being pointless

We Ocarina of Time now.

Jack becomes the Emperor and Ashi is wife. They give birth to Jack and send him on his way to the future. Then Emperor Jack kills Aku. Do to time travel wibbly wobbly, everything works out for the best.

Does anyone really think he will leave his family to suffer..if he can go back he will that's all there is

I don't think Aku is bored, he's just depressed because he doesn't know what the fuck to do about Jack. He can't risk fighting Jack since he has the one thing that can defeat Aku, and no one else is capable of killing Jack either. I think once he finds out Jack doesn't have his sword, he'll go to him immediately to kill him. Whether or not Jack has his sword back by then is anyone's guess.

>Fights the Guardian after beating Aku
>Uses the portal
>Only sends him back 20 minutes to just before the Guardian fight

>making deals with demons/evil spirits
Nigga this shit is like mythology and folk tales 101. Just don't.

They already "suffered." For thousands of years, actually. The first episode made it pretty clear that the sword isn't the tool to defeat Aku and that Jack has to let go of the past.

He'll go back age quickly and die after improving the future. Thats what we saw the guardian looking at.

Is that why jack gets BTFO by pretty much anything whatsoever when he doesn't have the sword? Even when he has another kind of sword?
Face it, the sword is everything. Until the retconn happens, it's the only thing that can harm aku, the only thing that can seal aku (and the only thing that has successfully done so before), and the only thing that lets jack be more than an average dude.

>Final battle
>An Army of Jack's Allies vs Aku's Army
>Jack and Ashi make it into Aku's lair and begin the fight
>Jack loses the sword to Aku
>Aku goes to strike with it, knowing Jack is not as" pure" as he used to be and the blow will kill him
>Ashi jumps in the way
>It bounces off of her, she is now pure thanks to Jack
>Jack regains control of the sword
>Aku is shape-shifting but cannot keep up with two highly-skilled warriors
>Eventually he is defeated
>Jack considers returning to his time, but realizes he is in his time. Where he has lived most of his life and made his friends
>The world is freed but still has much to be done to correct the wrongs made
>Jack becomes king as seen in the portal vision
>Slight timeskip
>Jack and Ashi sitting with children in a village with lots of plans and flowers
>Jack begins telling the children of his tale
>"Long go, in a distant land, I, Jack, a noble Samurai fought an unspeakable evil..."
>WACHA

If he stays in the future after killing Aku, he still probably won't age.

No it doesn't. hey will still live, but they will live different lives, without Aku's tyranny.

I think jack will defeat aku in the future and become the king of the future
and ashi will be sent back with the sword to defeat aku in that timeline and become a warrior princess

>knowing Jack is not as" pure" as he used to be and the blow will kill him
>Jack will never recover his sword because he is no longer pure.
Get the fuck out of here

Yes, they already suffered, which is why Jack can stop that suffering by returning to his home and undoing Aku's future.

Also the sword was literally made to kill Aku, what the fuck do you mean it isn't a tool to defeat Aku

Oh that gave me a good laugh.

I want to believe the most logical course of action would be to defeat Aku and stay in the future after being reminded that, if he ever changes the past, all the people he met and saved will never exist. Even if he is unable to undo all of Aku's evil, it would be even crueler to not allow that world and its inhabitants to ever exist.

Then he obviously marries Ashi and, with Aku gone, he is finally allowed to age along her and live a happy, peaceful life. I'm up for bittersweet endings but after so much suffering, Jack deserves a happy ending.

A final battle shown split screen across two timelines. One in the past where Jack has a sword and Ashi has another since the timelines are separate. After Aku is defeated in both, Ashi and Jack can hop across timelines and visit each other, he can see the future improved and she can see the past.

If they don't exist anymore then they won't suffer or anything, they won't exist, so it won't fucking matter.

>if he ever changes the past, all the people he met and saved will never exist
I really don't get how people reach this logic.

Aku's evil didn't make some scottish broad bang some scottish dude and make an angry, one legged scottish baby, Aku's evil empire didn't create entire races of people or lead to the creation of dog people, or scientists, or jumping cavemen, or anything else. All the people Jack met existed without Aku's influence, it was only through Aku's influence that they met Jack, usually because they were suffering under Aku's evil. Going back in time and slaying Aku doesn't stop these people from existing, it stops them from suffering under Aku and letting them live normal lives. Not to mention the countless people that died from Aku's forces and actions will be alive again.

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So by your logic, the future doesn't exist without Aku. Damn, didn't realize the fate of the entire world rested on the ultimate evil existing, and without him no one in the future will ever exist.

Nigga you best be meming on me right now I swear to god

If we go by time fuckery "rules", any little change in the past, especially when we're talking thousands of years, can have a huge impact in the future.

So yes, if Aku doesn't exist, a lot of people won't die, but that means thousands of relationships will be different, cultures will be modified. You get the drill.

If we consider SJ's timeline to be linear, then yes, all those alien species that arrived to Earth might have never arrived in the first place since many of them went by Aku's influence or invasion in their worlds.

The dead don't remember their suffering either. That doesn't make killing literal millions okay.

You're not killing them. You're making it so as they never existed in the first place. There's a difference, you drooling subhuman.

That doesn't mean those people, relationships, cultures, ect, just stop existing. The way people talk they believe if Aku is slain then the Scotsman will never exist, or Da Samurai will never exist, or the three archers would never exist. Aku's absence doesn't erase the possibility of these people existing, it may alter where they exist, who they become, or what they do, but it's unlike they will outright not exist because of Aku's absence, thus, using that as a base for "Jack can't go back in time, all his friends will stop existing!" is stupid.

But thats wrong. Aku's absence doesn't stop them from existing.

I think it's safe to say the way time travel works, or at least how Jack think it works, is branching. I feel that if Jack does go back in time and kill aku, the future he's in will still exist. I

Go be 12 somewhere else.

>No no, don't worry about us, son. Your family, friends, nation, and your very culture, plus the billions of lives tortured and slain under Aku's unparalleled tyranny are small sacrifices to make so that you can still be with your new girlfriend and you can stay friends with all your future people, we'll be just find suffering for decades, watching our lands burn and become corrupted by the ultimate evil, wondering where you went, if you'll ever return, or if you weren't killed by Aku. After all, we put our hopes on you, it doesn't matter if you failed us all."

It's like the 'would you go back and kill Hitler as a baby' debate. For all the horrors it would save, you also lose the progress that struggle brings. I think it's a more mature approach that Jack and the world defeat Aku and rebuild than to try to Ctrl+Z it all away.

And that is?

No, the butterfly effect would mean a total history rewrite.

They're already dead. Time to let go.

I been telling this since a week ago, ashi even looks like Jack's mother

Jack reveals his true name to her and name her son after him, without realizing, Jack is her son.

Aku tells Jack he has destroyed all portals but ONE he hid somewhere safely that jack could never reach.

Aku tells Jack if he kills him that Jack will NEVER see his family again but someday Aku will escape his prison and finish what he started without jack to oppose him.

Jack seals Aku away anyways instead of abandoning Ashi and the Future.
Jack is reunited with the spirits of his mum and dad one last time who say they are proud of him or w/e before going into the afterlife.

Jack and Ashi remain in the future traveling the world still looking to undo Aku's remaining evil where ever it may be (only now hes not alone as he has Ashi to accompany him).

in the ending song Jack no longer says "gotta get back" but instead " gotta keep moving forward" or something cheesy like that.

>They're already dead. Time to let go.
Yes, that would be the mature way to go about it.

If time travel wasn't the main plot point. You don't just "let go" of your family when you can literally go back and time and stop them from suffering and dying, and the billions of people, homes, cultures and races wiped out by Aku. Jack's mission, his whole life is to STOP AKU, the story is about undoing the future that is Aku, letting go of that would make everything Jack has done, has suffered for, has dreamed about, and hoped about, pointless.

>It's like the 'would you go back and kill Hitler as a baby' debate. For all the horrors it would save, you also lose the progress that struggle brings. I think it's a more mature approach that Jack and the world defeat Aku and rebuild than to try to Ctrl+Z it all away.

No see, the difference between these arguments is Hitler didn't enslave the entire planet and twist it into a hellscape under his nightmarish rule. And secondly, what fucking progress? Yeah, the future is super high tech and neat, but do you know what the legacy of the past is? Not a shining march of progress, it's a torturous trudge under Aku's whip, you're basically saying "Ah nah, don't go back and time and stop Aku's future from coming about, I mean look at all the cool shit we got because of him, so what if he wiped out a few races, enslaved innumerable people, and is literally evil incarnate, that stuffs in the past, we gotta move on man!"

The Butterfly effect is a theory, and we have no idea if Jack's universe works under it. For all we know, everything would go the same way, only now it wouldn't be under the influence of Aku, but instead a natural progression of time.

you're drooling all over yourself again, timmy.

His and his father's mission was to stop Aku. The 'go back in time' part is Jack's idea because he wants to return home. Do you think he'd be willing to do it if he found out everybody he knew, from the Scotsman to the people he saved, won't even exist? Bare in mind we're talking about a universe with an afterlife, so that's WORSE than death.

Well yes, going through that hell and coming out stronger and more defiant is going to be better than just sweeping it under the carpet.

You're getting real desperate here, bud

You're not getting any smarter I see.

> Do you think he'd be willing to do it if he found out everybody he knew, from the Scotsman to the people he saved, won't even exist?
Again, you have no proof this would happen, it's your wild guess that that might happen, and this is Jack were talking about, do you really think he considers the possible side effects of altering the time stream? He probably doesn't even know what theoretical physics are.

Jack's mission is to stop Aku, to save his home, that has ALWAYS been his mission, and he has done everything he could to go back and save his people. If Jack does not return to the past, Aku wins. He has already corrupted the world to the point that it will take hundreds of years to unfuck the world, and everyone Jack has ever cared about from his home died a horrible, agonizing death. Aku won, and Jack staying in the future cements his victory.

This. Jack's parents and the other slaves probably spread stories about Jack going to Aku's lair. For generations people would wonder why he failed, as they watch Aku consume everything.

But no one besides Jack comes out stronger. Worlds are ruined, entire races are gone or dying, the world itself is filled with Aku's evil influence and corruption, and there are countless beings under Aku's command who are almost as evil. You're saying that Jack should give up the chance at ensuring NONE OF THAT happens, and instead taking the route of cleaning up the nightmare that Aku left behind. Yeah, thats 'real mature"

We saw the kind of torture Jack went through when he thought there was no more hope left in returning to the past, or that he made any difference. Imagine the kind of despair his own people felt when Jack never came back, and Aku continued his campaign of ruin across the land, imagine just how painful it was for them to lose every last ounce of hope and give up, accepting that they would live, for a short time at least, under Aku's wrath

>Major global disaster
>Centuries pass
>Expecting the same characters, including aliens to be around and prancing about on flowerbeds.

Right. So I take it you missed the dozens of times the good people come out stronger with Jack's help, start settlements and even amass armies in defiance of Aku?

"Nah, that's not good enough. Just wipe it all out for an easier time".

I just want this to happen

>Jack goes through portal
>Cuts to when Aku first sent Jack to the future
>Gives his we will meet again speech
>Right after the moment where the original scene ended Jack appears above Aku
>Jack kills Aku with one hit

I just kinda hope the finale ends up being hardcore as fuck, would be cool to see Sup Forums implode on itself

>just a theory

Things affecting other things is just a theory...?

He will be immortal and never die if he choose to stay in the future so he has to go back.
After he defeated aku and become the emperor, he will be greeted by the guardian who told him he could return anytime except he must choose his heir to inherit his kingdom, and the decision must be wise because there will be a 2nd coming of aku and they need a king as awesome as jack.

This will caused a throne war that jack must taken care of before going back to the past.

Here's a list of candidate for the throne:
>Scotsman's eldest daughter or son
>the new king of spartan kingdom
>the female mercenary princess that had tried to assassinate jack
>that baby jack saved 50 years ago who had grown up a strong warrior
>possible aku's die hard follower like demongo or scaramouche, maybe DEATHBLOW


ashi will choose not to inherit the throne because she knows better that it is a great responsibility.

I think he defeats Aku, but only returns to the past much later in life, like we see in the Guardian's portal.

"Okay Jack, heres the moment, heres your choices, you can either
A: Go back in time, kill Aku, save your people and the uncountable number of people who will get to live happy, peaceful lives, free of Aku, and the world will never have to endure Aku's evil ever
OR
B: Stay in the future, let down everyone who put their hopes on you to save their lives and save their land from Aku, continue to shoulder the billions of lost lives, because by not going back in time, it is literally your fault they died, and now have to pick up the pieces of a broken world, beset by hordes of villains and monsters who no longer have to kowtow to Aku and are free to go wild on this already broken and scarred world.

He goes back to the past to fight Dinosaurs

It wont matter, the show has essentially become fanfiction in all but name. So no, not until the show actually returns.

Here, I'll just handle it for both sides
>Jack kills Aku in the future
>Goes to the past
>Kills Aku in the past
>Both timelines exist
>Aishi and all the other Jack allies go on to fix their world
>In the past Jack lives his life happily with his family and remembers the people of the future
>Happy ending for all

My theory for the ending is Jack kills Aku and changes the future, at the cost of erasing all his friends, but he stays immortal. So he travels the world doin his Samurai Jack thing, like being silent hero and helping grow society for a millennium until he meets all his friends again, this time in a world without Aku.

I think thats the best compromise between the two possibilities, Jack fulfills his goal and everyone he helped in the series isnt wiped away

I actually think something like this will happen.

It'd be a happy ending, lord knows Jack deserves one.

It'd also let Ashi carry on Jack's legacy in the future-everyone would know what Jack did, it wouldn't invalidate the successes Jack had in the future, etc.

>Stay in the future, let down everyone who put their hopes on you to save their lives and save their land from Aku, continue to shoulder the billions of lost lives, because by not going back in time, it is literally your fault they died, and now have to pick up the pieces of a broken world, beset by hordes of villains and monsters who no longer have to kowtow to Aku and are free to go wild on this already broken and scarred world.
That's not Jack's fault though. It was Aku who sent him through time so he could party on Earth for centuries. So like it or not, Jack has a choice between the people who existed that moment in time or the unnumbered generations, suffering and dead, that'll be completely wiped from existence if he changes history.

The monsters are only there with Aku's backing and people have fought them back. The 'broken and scarred' world is just you selectively forgetting all the lush forests we've seen in the past episode. Earth will be just fine after Aku's dead.

>Jack is the only one who can kill Aku
>Jack can return to the past, where he belongs
>Jack can stop Aku's reign of terror from ever occurring
It is literally Jack's responsibility to stop Aku from ruining the world, he is the only person in history who can do it, and for him to choose NOT to go back in time to undo Aku's future means it is LITERALLY his fault Aku is allowed to do what he wants and ruin the world.

>>Jack is the only one who can kill Aku
Which he was doing, until Aku cheated.

>>Jack can return to the past, where he belongs
>>Jack can stop Aku's reign of terror from ever occurring
Not without erasing a lot of good people. No matter what you say, that's what's going to happen.

All these people who can't wrap their heads around the concept of a lot of people Jack meets not existing if Aku is erased in the past, what the fuck. I knew Sup Forums was fucking retarded but not to this extent.

Taking a small scale event, imagine your grandfather or something served on WW2. He got injured in a battle and was relieved of duty and sent to a hospital where he met a nurse who he ends up marrying and becoming your grandmother.
Now imagine some time traveler kept WW2 from happening, by whatever means. The circunstances your grandparents met don't exist anymore, they don't start a relationship and thus you and other descendents of them do not exist anymore in the new future.
Sure, a lot of people who lost their lives due to the war wouldn't die and also would go on to have different lives but a lot of people who exist today would never be born. Maybe your grandmother had a fiancee who she lost to war before meeting your grandfather, or your ancestor's family moved due to fear from being near a combat zone. All that gone. And those are direct effects, there's countless indirect ones that would pile up over time making 2017 in a timeline where WW2 happened and 2017 in a timeline where it didn't very different.

And this example is one historical event that happened over the course of a few years. Aku's been there shaping society for millenia. It would be like if someone went back in time and erased Rome.

Okay, well I can see this discussion is going nowhere, because you seem to believe your theory is an absolute truth, thus I will take my leave here, for this reminds me too much of another person who acted the same way and ruined a lot of good things for me because of that.