How would you fix these characters Sup Forums?

How would you fix these characters Sup Forums?

Good question, anyone want to answer it?

Remove them

I would have painted the asian blackface and made the man wear red lipstick. He would also have called Captain Phasma "Massa Phasma"

finn is fine
the other one exists, you have to un-exist her

Finn actually had a decent character arc in TLJ. At the start he was a coward who tried to desert the Resistance by stealing an escape pod. By the end, he was proudly calling himself "Rebel Scum" and was willing to sacrifice himself to destroy the mini-Death Star laser.

Of course, Rose had to ruin it by crashing into him and then saying a line that was so cheesy it made me cringe.

So I'd fix the characters by letting Finn sacrifice himself and removing Rose completely.

Either make them not have a love interest story, or develop it more before their kiss

Also make Rose saving Finn Moreno meaningful, i.e. Make it more obvious to the audience he was facing a certain death to no effect

Make them white.

Not shove in a stupid romance plot for two characters that just met each other and have no chemistry
"We aren't going to win by fighting what we hate.. but protecting what we love" they met not even a few fucking days ago if that long. What the fuck??? So stupid.

This is good

finn should've died in the end, because he hasn't done absolutely anything since the first film, so the suicide crash would've been his only redeeming moment and it would've been good if she went with him because she's utterly useless

>add beauty
>add talent

Finn is alright. Rose is the shitty one.

Make the Paige actress play Rose

I'd recast them with likeable people instead of people that meet a diversity quota.

You can't. They are fucking retards in this movie.

>Will Smith
>talent

Replace them with these two:

Make her die at the beginning of Episode IX, so she serves as inspiration to Finn to do something heroic along the film. There you have it.

Merge her with her sister and make her a survivor of the attack who got into an escape pod just as the bombs dropped and Poe picked her up.
Relegated to guard duty because "no more ships left to fly" have her reject any notion that she's a hero and likes Finn because he is a hero.

Have a scene where they show Kylo torture an escaped rebel for intel so that the general not talking to anyone would make sense.

But then Finn will get to kiss an attractive Asian waifu

These are good too

Rose has no reason to exist, Finn should've sacrificed himself for a hero moment destroying that cannon, cut the casino planet, make Finn part of Poe's mutiny

And what's wrong with that?

this is where his character was logically going. he is defeated by the idea that whatever he does, he is just furthering the military industrial complex that created him. so he goes out in a blaze of glory to spit in the eye of the machine that created him. too bad tico fucked that up

>cut the casino planet
Then we'd have no opera singer made of boobs

>i'll mock someone who makes a gazillion dollars in every movie and has been doing so since before i was born purely based on charisma and raw acting talent
brainlet

stop this meme pls, the asian chick is fine, I had asians gf from china and philippines before and they rock

>Delete Rose,
>have Poe go as originally intended
>have Poe and Finn actually stop the FO from tracking the resistance ship, allowing the Resistance to escape,
>Rey has Chewie save them inadvertently after Snoke death,
>Rey returns to Luke realizing she needs to complete her training

Finn was already fine in Awakens, he just needs to go back to his arc instead of being just a random nobody who hangs around for no reason.

Pigface chink needs to die, preferably offscreen between the movies. She contributes absolutely nothing and actively made the movie shittier by ruining what was supposed to be Finn's heroic sacrifice.

stop chasing chubbies and start living healthy user
>inb4 heartattack at 35

Ah yes, all those good and successful Will Smith movies like After Earth, Suicide Squad, Bright, Collateral Beauty ...

who the fuck cares, the planet served no fucking point, because the idiotic captain rammed the "Supremacy" at relativistic speed, if it actually served it's purpose and have Benicio be the actual code breaker and Finn truly helped the rebels then yeah live it albeit tune it a little bit to appear as a high stakes mission not the bullshit we had

this

cut out all their scenes

>Says he has talent
>Later admits he dosnt
Why would you self-btfo yourself like that

lol and what's wrong with chubbies user ?they are my favorites types of women, i dont think slim anorexic women are sexy

>no one dies: the movie
Gay

user, my Asian gf is relatively chubby and that's fine for me, but we all know sex sells and in Asia (as with MOST of the world) chubbiness is NOT sexy.

Why else do you think Chris Hemsworth got shirtless in all 3 Thor movies or Princess Leia was in a bikini in RotJ? Stuff like that has a wider appeal.

Having everything in the movie contribute towards the plot and being helpful is bad storytelling. Sometimes things just go nowhere. Also it meant they could a) deliver one of the key messages of the movie, of doing good and not exploiting others, and b) introduce the idea of the Resistance being heroes to the general galactic population

why haven't sjws torn that character apart for being sexist? It's literally made of boobs.

pic not related?

replace with two good loooking people

I'd have Rose lose weight, change her hair style and clothing. I'd spend a little bit in the next film exploring her history/family life. Then I'd put her into situations where she has to choose between good/evil and show the audience how dealt with it.

Finn needs new wardrobe. I'd have a lot more scenes of his and Poe together. I wouldn't make them gay, but really good bros.

If I thought Rose looked more attracted once she lost weight I might have a love triangle between them, but Finn would win in the end.

Almost like you have a ridiculous strawman version of 'SJWs' and their actions in your head

Finn and Poe should be gay imo

give finn something to do, delete jar jar chinks

> Finn wakes up after being passed out from hitting his head on the console
> Blood streaking down face
> Remembers dream of some chingchong kiss
> Cringes at remembering the taste of fried rice
> OK, time to crash this bichhh with no survivors
> Allahu Akbar

I have an idea on how to reboot Star Wars too
> Luke wakes up

No one knew they were boobs. No one cares.

thats my gf

>go on a mission out of the war zone with only the guy who just tried to desert as company.

???????????????????????

that ain't chubby my friend

finn is cool. the fat asian needs to go.

Wipe them out. All of them.

There is nothing wrong with Finn. I didn't hate Rose but perhaps removing her to give Finn more screentime would have improved Finn further.

>a) deliver one of the key messages of the movie, of doing good and not exploiting others,
doesn't need a pointless sequence to get that point across
also
b) introduce the idea of the Resistance being heroes to the general galactic population
yeah because having the first order erradicate a solar system in TFA makes me think everyone loves them, also they could still have the ending scene without having to go through the entire casino and horseriding shit, make a cool ass infiltration buddy cop like sequence with Finn and Poe instead of the bullshit with the chink and I'm on board with keeping it because alteast Oscar Isaac and Boyega have chemistry

These will make great action figures.

I'll take your word for it. I'm surrounded by stick thin Koreans all the time, so my perspective is skewed.

Thanks for complimenting her though.

No joke, I was starting to tear up as Finn prepared to sacrifice himself because I like him and wasn't expecting him to die so early.

Then Rose cockblocked him and I was like "Oh, so it's one of those scenes."

Asian standards for "chubby" are extremely low

as they should be

I think we need another pic to make sure

yeah, I think so too

also, I'd fuck your gf

that's asian chubby. I have a LINE girl around that weight, and she always tells me her coworkers give her shit about losing it.

Seriously, Rose ruined his arc and put her friends in danger and then forced herself onto him, when clearly he was saving himself for Rey.

Replace Rose's role with Poe: more comfy bro times with Finn and Poe getting way over their heads on a swashbuckling adventure together. The Tie Fighter escape scene in Force Awakens and is one of the few times they captured the spirit from the originals. Why they focused so much on pointless new characters (Rose,Holdo,DJ) when they could have developed the ones they already had is beyond me

its too late now

finn should have died
and rose shouldn't have existed at all

>doesn't need a pointless sequence to get that point across
How would you do it then? Remember, show don't tell.
>yeah because having the first order erradicate a solar system in TFA makes me think everyone loves them
Yes but apart from Rose showing the kid the ring on Canto Bight, the only other mention of the wider galaxy is that their Resistance contacts aren't answering their distress message, so are either too afraid of the FO or too politically paralysed to do anything about it. You needed a scene to show that the general population were on board and would join an uprising, otherwise the whole idea of being 'the spark that lights the fire' and the whole ending of the movie is null

Sorry, but that's all you're getting I legitimately don't have any other good pics either, we only recently started dating

Keep the casino planet but use it as a site of parley between Kylo and jedilady so she doesn't stupidly submit herself to the star destroyer

Then have Kylo reveal captured Boyega and asiangirl and do a trade off

Seriously? Finn is about to sacrifice himself, but then once again chickens out and bails... only for Rose to instead speed into the weapon, killing herself

It makes Finn realise what a cowardly fuck he is, and inspires him to try harder in the future

You know... character growth?

Replace Finn with Ryan Gosling and Rose Tico with some hot twilek girl.

You realize the only people to die in the movie were Snoke and Luke so it wouldn't have been much different and would have given a great actor a chance to do more in IX. Everyone was EXPECTING Luke to die in TLJ so the fact that he died wasn't even a very good twist. I really hate that Disney's intention for Star Wars turned out to be having one of the OT trio die per movie. They are shitting on the series so pompously by killing off beloved characters just to tie up loose ends. And Rey needs to actually take some damage like both Luke and Anakin did instead of being completely invincible. That is unless they are going to make Ben the Luke of this trilogy and have him be the one to lose his hand. But that would necessitate having the balls to make Rey a villain and I cannot think of a single Disney movie that has had more than a black and white portrayal of good and evil.

Swap the Asian

Fuck off Rain, no one likes your shit ideas

I didnt watch this dumpster fire but can someone explain just what the fuck those buttons on her jacket do?

i would be fine with that or rey/the good guys losing, but i don't think the whole cast of actors, writers and directors have enough talent to portrait that in an emotional way (maybe they would instill even more propaganda, like "the nazis did it they won xD be a good goy or this will happen to you IRL")

That’s fucking stupid, a story’s purpose is the plot and moving it along. Shit put in the story that ultimately goes no where is what’s called a red herring, which authors use to throw the audience off from guessing the ending and adding mystery.

remove them because they serve no purpose

what you call a central point is useless because every sane and emphatetic human being knows shitting on others to get on top is wrong also in the originals we didn't need someone to tell me that people were rooting for the Rebellion, hell even that we don't even know who rules the fucking Galaxy anymore for christ sake, show me that the First order is in control then because my assumption is that know everyone was independent and doesn't give a flying fuck that's the real vibe I got from the Casino planet, show me the First order being dicks to civilians atleast for believing that the Resistance would need popular support, in ANH we knew the Empire were assholes by them destroying Alderaan, now with the FO I know they are assholes by blowing not corusant out and by that measure my logic tells me they won't have popular support, because IRL if USA just nuked fucking Nigeria out of the blue to get a point across they won't have popular support from anyone but retarded maniacs, and why is a spark needed? the resistance was already in place so it means there was already a spark for a rebellion which is in itself stupid because the Republic was in power so the FO were the ones attemping a violent coup and from what I took from TFA the resistance were a Minutemen like organization tasked with protecting the Republic

the entire sequel trilogy is riddled with bad writing a bad world building

who would provide diversity unto the cast then?

Make them white

Despite the Sup Forumstards trying to spread lies about him, John Boyega portrayed a flawed and multifaceted black man in Detroit so he at least knows how to play a character with some depth, and is just a good actor in general. He should have been the protagonist of the sequel trilogy, not Rey.

idris elba should have been rey

Finn is fine, and would have had great character progression if he was allowed to sacrifice himself.

Remove Rose, or trade her for her sister. Don't let her stop Finn's sacrifice, so she is further emboldened top fight harder in Ep. 9. Maybe make her less "muh oppresion".

>a story’s purpose is the plot and moving it along
Wow, brainlet detected

And all they'd have to do is change his name to Ray.

This, he is not a bad actor by any means, he is alright and has the capabilities for being the lead character, I mean I personally dislike him outside his movies for the diversity shit he puts out (lotr not having blacks and such) but he indeed has talent, it's just that the writing for Finn is really bad imo the only characters that have good or atleast average writing and effort put into them are Kylo and Poe

exactly

...

Massa Phasma, quick! Miss Rose be havin a baby?

I don know nuthin bout birthin no babies!

>tfw they could have made Finn a Jolee Bindo analog.

exactly and I would be allright with that

Will Smith's acting is not the fault in those movies.

Bright is getting a sequel, and it's not his fault that After Earth and Suicide Squad sucked.

>every sane and emphatetic human being knows shitting on others to get on top is wrong
Then there can't be that many sane and empathetic human beings in the world.

Hi Will

Into the garbage compactor they go.

If she isn't well liked, she'll pretty much die offscreen with Leia

I'd donate my humanity to her eggsacs, if you know what I mean.

Y'know, I've noticed that the looming problem with films that are 'block busters' these days isn't the production values or actors, but the writing and sheer lack of subtlety. They are so blunt to the point that a whole market has called it out as intellectually insulting. I had wondered why newer thrillers couldn't hold my attention while old films could maintain the buildup and it's clear that it's all in the garbage writing. They have become so reliant on the filming to catch the thrill that they neglect the story in it's entirety until it's little more than a house of cards.