Why do people care about these award ceremonies?

Connor Lee
Connor Lee

unanimously considered best DOP alive
Hasnt won an Oscar

Why do people care about these award ceremonies?

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Noah Brooks
Noah Brooks

because the people that make them control the media and the media influences the people

Nathaniel Brooks
Nathaniel Brooks

That's not Christopher Doyle or Lubezki

Joseph Lewis
Joseph Lewis

ITMFL was 18 years ago user, try again.

Angel Johnson
Angel Johnson

I thought Jimmy Saville was dead

Evan Sanchez
Evan Sanchez

unanimously considered best DOP alive
unbelievably pleb.
go back to rēddit

James Perez
James Perez

DOPs are mote meme tier than grips tbph

Luis Garcia
Luis Garcia

the term is 'DP', brainlet. Prepositions are not included.

Carson Clark
Carson Clark

He's not the best DOP alive though. He's like a dude who has been consistently good his whole career, and the few times he's been great, someone else was just a bit a better.

The only year he truly got robbed is when Skyfall lost to a film that barely contained any cinematography, because the Academy confused VFX for photography (he notably won the ASC award that year).

This year he should win, but I have a feeling they're gonna toss it to the guy behind Shape Of Water (even though it's all Production Design and post work) or maybe even hilariously go full feminst and give it to Mudbound.

Nathan Sanchez
Nathan Sanchez

people who decide where and/or how to point the camera, which produces the literal thing you're looking at, is a mémé

Owen Murphy
Owen Murphy

They unironically are when pepole are referring to DOP's.

Don't ask me why.

Henry Peterson
Henry Peterson

probably Americans.

Parker Hernandez
Parker Hernandez

no seriously user Dick Tracy is a better shot movie then No Country For Old Men.

Just fucking kill yourself

Ian Morales
Ian Morales

people who decide where and/or how to point the camera, which produces the literal thing you're looking at, is a mémé

The thread is about cinematographers, not directors, brainlet.

Cinematographers decide how to light the scene to the directors satisfaction.

The director chooses where and/or how to point the camera.

And if he's working for Marvel, he doesn't even get to do that half the time, because the Previz guys do it for him.

Colton Stewart
Colton Stewart

tfw Brit-Kino wasn't the dominant force so we don't get to call them Lighting Cameramen anymore

Hunter Nguyen
Hunter Nguyen

pointing a camera is so hard guise, gibs me dat

also cats are faggots

Caleb Baker
Caleb Baker

Not him, but Dick Tracy is unironically better lit than No Country For Old Men.

Carter Richardson
Carter Richardson

it is you fucking idiot.
Storaro is literally the only one who has proved Digital can look as good as film.

Cooper Williams
Cooper Williams

The director chooses where and/or how to point the camera.
No, the director just chooses where, the framing and composition part is all a part of DP's work, along with the lighting ofcourse. And yeah the director can say if he wants specific framing and composition like Fincher does, but mostly that's all on the cinematographer and his crew

Leo Evans
Leo Evans

Storaro is literally the only one who has proved Digital can look as good as film.

Examples?

Xavier King
Xavier King

Try again bucko

Owen Ward
Owen Ward

The director chooses where and/or how to point the camera.
Are you really telling me that the only job the DP does is lighting?
Are you daft?

Directors will give directions on how they envision the shot and at times, decide where the camera sits and points to, but the DOP handles the artistic side of it.

Jayden Perry
Jayden Perry

What about framing the shot? What about lighting the shot? What about choosing the right lens? What about choosing the right settings? What about camera operating? What about the focus? What about the composition?

Ethan Reyes
Ethan Reyes

cafe society is the only modern movie he's made and it look terrible not a film look just digital

Nolan Perry
Nolan Perry

He literally thinks the DOP/Gaffer is the same role. Directors also focus a lot of their time on blocking.

Zachary Lee
Zachary Lee

Wow. Backlighting. Truly amazing.

the framing and composition part is all a part of DP's work

Only in rare cases. The more visually inclined a director is, the more framing and composition falls under his domain. Directrors like Spielberg, Fincher, Bay, Hitchcock and so on will not only dictate framing and composition (compositoin in terms of the blocking of a scene always falls under the director) but also lens lengths.

but mostly that's all on the cinematographer and his crew

That's the complete wrong way around. Most directrors, especially modern directors, dictate the framing and composition completely. While cinematographers are almost entirely focused on lighting, hence their original name.

A guy like Fincher isn't noted for controlling framing, he's noted for the SPECICIFITY of his framing - a normal director will say of the framing "I want a close up from thsi angle". Fincher will dictate the exact compositoin and framing and distance and lens length and so forth.

The Coens, who Deakin's used to work with constantly for instance have the entire picture storyboarded and the editing pre-vized to a degree. Deakins framing and composition is taken from their boards which are actually mounted and displayed on set.

John Jenkins
John Jenkins

>>93198131
Cafe Society and hopeful for his next Woody Allen film.
I disagree. Ive been completely against digital and I watched it last year, looked brilliant desu especially the indoor stuff

Adrian White
Adrian White

only

The lighting is the single most important element in the photography.

are you daft

No. I'm right though.

Why do you think they were originally credited as the lighting cameraman?

Why do you think they refer to their job as lighting and are in charge of the lighting department?

but the DOP handles the artistic side of it.

It's the complete opposite. The DOP handles the TECHNICAL side of it. That's literally their job. To translate the artistic wishes of the director through the technical departments. Just go and pick up any single copy of ASC Magazine and listen to them talk about their own jobs.

lighting
only job

Jesus user, that's as dumb as asking if the actors only job is acting.

Leo Martin
Leo Martin

I preferred the visuals in The Great Gatsby i think that was digital

Lincoln Mitchell
Lincoln Mitchell

framing the shot

Director or previz/storyboard artist

choosing the right lens

Sometimes the director or previz

choosing the right settings

Not rocket science

camera operating

Camera operators job

focus

Focus pullers job

Compostion

Director or Previz/Storyboard.

Jason Gonzalez
Jason Gonzalez

You can read Deakins' blog to understand what he does exactly he writes quite often

Brody Turner
Brody Turner

Good thread lads interesting discussion.

Elijah King
Elijah King

I tried to watch that over Christmas and the music was too much for me. typical Luhrmann I guess

Parker Stewart
Parker Stewart

And obviously there are different cases - Oliver Stone for example left A LOT of the visual language up to Robert Richardson - and you can see the difference in Oliver Stone films after he stopped working with Richardson.

Meanwhile, if you watch a Scorsese film shot by Richardson, a Stone film shot by Richardson and a Tarantino film shot by Richardson, there is no carry over in terms of framing and composition - just in lighting (which is distinct with Richardson). Meanwhile a Scorsese film will be framed and composed in a similar fashion (so similar he's constantly imitated) regardless of the DP. The same composition techniques present in Goodfellas will show up in Casino for instance. But the lighting is distinctly different yet if you throw on Inglorious Basterds you will see the same lighting techniques employed by Richardson across films.

Carter Mitchell
Carter Mitchell

He's nothing but an overrated desktop background merchant. Everything he does feels sterile and static.

Ian Moore
Ian Moore

Director or previz/storyboard artist
Which often work directly with the cinematographer
Sometimes the director or previz
Extremely rarely.
Camera operators job
Who works according to the instructions of the director of photography
Focus pullers job
Who works according to the instructions of the director of photography
Director or Previz/Storyboard.
Same as my first point

Kayden Martinez
Kayden Martinez

He was responding to me, and I don't think that.

Wyatt Hill
Wyatt Hill

Memeposters like you spam the same 2 or 3 frames out of 77 films he worked on in his entire career, 13 that got Oscar nominated

Camden Clark
Camden Clark

Which often work directly with the cinematographer
Sure. The DP also nearly always works with the Production Designer. He's still not in charge of building the sets (unless it's Star Wars where the DP literally did lose his shit and start building the sets)

Lucas Thomas
Lucas Thomas

The lighting is his job. It's the single most important part of his job and the part he has the most control over.

Pixar and ILM paid Deakins a bunch of money to come in and specifically lecture them on lighting.

The most respected book and documentary made on the subject, routinely shilled by the ASC is "Visions Of Light". Cinematographers pretentiously refer to their job as "painting with light".

That's what they're known for. Lighting.

Adrian White
Adrian White

but death grips are the biggest meme

Christopher Hernandez
Christopher Hernandez

Also James Cameron - such an anal retentive faggot that he wants to be in charge of the film stock too. To the point that he destroyed an entire day's shooting by deliberately putting the wrong film stock into the cannisters to teach the DP a lesson for not doing what he was told.

Elijah Cook
Elijah Cook

Has Deakins gone too far?

Charles Rogers
Charles Rogers

I wondered how he did that.

Connor Turner
Connor Turner

That’s an entire budget of some small indie film in the form of 256 ARRI 300-watt Fresnel lights

Logan Murphy
Logan Murphy

Is this too generate the reflections?

Why couldn't he just throw up a couple of big chinese lantern style lights or big lights behind a scrim?

Grayson Davis
Grayson Davis

Because it's a 360 degree circularly moving light, not a static one. If you saw the film you would notice how the light is never static, you can see that here

Dominic Reed
Dominic Reed

overcompansating for his small penor lmao

Ian Ward
Ian Ward

muh every scene needs foreground, middle and background lighting
OVERPAID, UNDERWORKED

Parker Robinson
Parker Robinson

It does not matter when something was.
If their work is better,even if ages old, and they are still alive then they are better living dsop.

Jaxson Richardson
Jaxson Richardson

I saw the movie.

What's the purpose of having a moving light source like that? That's why I was asking if it was to generate the ripple reflections on the wall. Couldn't you just throw up a big scrim and some lights and dial them up or down and get the same effect as a fuck ton of lights?

I didn't notice any effects in the scene of spotlight following the actors aroudn or anything.

Brandon Brown
Brandon Brown

I don't think that's how they did it in the first one

Joseph Fisher
Joseph Fisher

Here's a good read
https://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/blade-runner-2049-lighting-cinematography/

And if you have more question, you can literally ask Deakins himself on his blog and he will more than likely answer it, if it wasn't already asked a hundred times before ofcourse.

Colton Sanchez
Colton Sanchez

hfw Lubezki wins for Song to Song

Isaiah Gray
Isaiah Gray

I hate that fuck, his early work was magnificent but today he's just a glorified GoPro operator

Gavin Brown
Gavin Brown

Storaro is literally the only one who has proved Digital can look as good as film.
dion beebe*

Christian Bailey
Christian Bailey

He refuses to drink the child blood and submit to Moloch.

Deakins is pure.

Carson Ward
Carson Ward

btw what happened to Dean Cundey?
From the biggest films to absolute trash
Not talking about his work itself, jack and jill photography for example looked quite good

Evan Gonzalez
Evan Gonzalez

Vaal cared for us

Dylan Rivera
Dylan Rivera

Glorified GoProOpeartor
When the cinematography is all Malick has left

Anthony Johnson
Anthony Johnson

At least in his home country he is appreciated a bit more.

Juan Baker
Juan Baker

The Assassination of Jesse James
sterile

Benjamin Collins
Benjamin Collins

There was something about BR2049 that irritated my eyes, the changes in lighting were jarring from scene to scene. The yellow color of Las Vegas scenes was intense to the point where my eyes started hurting, while the colors in the orphanage scenes were so washed out that I had a hard time distinguishing the elements of the background.

Carter Nguyen
Carter Nguyen

Why do you?

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