>“No, I don’t know whether they’re all afraid to come and meet me– no, no they weren’t, really. Because it’s imaginary, you do it with green screen… That was another challenge, you could say, yeah. But it was quite fun. And they’re very encouraging in what you do, suggesting ‘Over here, look over there, imagine that, do this here, they’re coming at you now.'”
>“I’m sorry I’m not in costume. I didn’t even have a costume when I was doing it. It’s all done in motion capture. So… they stick a helmet on your head, they put two cameras around, and they capture all your expressions, facial expressions. So basically, they’re going to concoct some kind of construction and they will use my facial expressions – eyes, mouth, voice – they’ll turn into this murderous, avenging Steppenwolf from the planet Apokolips, apparently. Who’s bent on Hell on Earth.”
This looks awful, but WW was tolerable so I'm willing to hold out till the crap gets flushed out of the DCEU system. >Steppenwolf will not be a Heavy Metal Viking with "Born to be Wild" as his theme song.
Carson Edwards
What exactly do you want? The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of DCs enemies for their team up films need CGI to even exist. You can get away with humans and costumes in solo films, like MoS or Batman, but Steppenwolf is a dark god of an alien world. Or shall we just dress up Galadriel as a goth and call it a day?
It's also a strawman, unless you mean it as broad critisicm. From Hulk, to Ultron, to Ares, there are mostly/all CGI character all across capeshit these days. Have you gone back to watch Avengers 1 recently?
Dominic Wood
This is what Steppenwolf looks like you fucking casual. The whole appeal of the new gods is that they can get away with looking ridiculous, you want Granny Goodness to be a cloud monster?
Jacob Stewart
What's a bayformer doing here?
Juan Brown
>The whole appeal of the new gods is that they can get away with looking ridiculous
Uh...not that guy, but speak for yourself, mate. That is absolutely not the whole appeal of the New Gods for most people.
David Gomez
not muh
Liam Moore
Maybe ridiculous is the wrong word, but they are basically Kirby unchained. They are weird and wonderful, they have silly gimmicks but can murder entire planets with them.
Samuel Baker
...
Brandon James
That's even worse, Steppenwolf is supposed to be the last of the Old Gods, Darkseid's Uncle. Hes supposed to be a Viking.
Juan Murphy
Steppenwolf isn't an Old God, the Old Gods are dead.
BTW I'm talking about Kirby's Fourth World here so don't cite some Johns diarrhea as an argument
Caleb Young
Sorry my lore is isn't quite up to snuff on this, I thought a few survived and thats where Apocalypse and New Genesis came from. Still they don't look like aliens.
Nolan Moore
This bodes well for Ironside as Darkseid.
Isaac Reed
Your theory makes as much sense as what Kirby wrote. He never really explains what Old Gods are or the specific history. He kind of made it up as he went.
Charles Sanchez
As I understand it they were supposed to be Marvels Asgardians and Olympians. See guy with winged helmet and hammer here . Wonder Woman actually kind of sets it up because they talk about the death of the gods.
Jose Hill
That actually looks pretty good
Gavin Morris
This is what Steppenwolf as Jack Kirby drew him you casual.
Samuel Cooper
>it's the Rainbow Patrol
Benjamin Walker
I dont know if you have the right to call that user a casual when the pic is of New 52 Steppenwolf. I miss the ridiculous green elf hat
Ian Lewis
The point is neither version looks nothing like the movies monstrosity.
Jonathan Morales
Why does he look like a weird alien? The New Gods were basically human looking
Aiden Jackson
Kirby had no consistency, sometimes he wouldn't even flip the page back to the beginning of the comic he was currently drawing.
Ryan Gray
That image in OP is literally pulled straight from the end of BvS you dumb fuck. How gullible are you? We have no idea what he looks like in JL
Eli Bailey
Neither of the looks are good user. The real problem is no one gives a fuck about Steppenwolf and the fact that hes the villain for Justice League is downright asinine. If we're doing New Gods, just go straight to Darkseid. Not only that, but there are half a dozen better choices for a JL movie villain
Brandon White
Like Darkseid and Kalibak, right?
Elijah Ross
The first Bendis.
Evan Thomas
Rooney, the more you post the more I hate you. Fuck off.
Nolan Rogers
That's true. I always figured that Kryptonian holograms would be more trouble than they are worth. Kryptonians may be able to see more colors but we the viewers only see liquid metal
Sebastian Hernandez
DC does it again
Colton Phillips
My favorite pat of Kirby's non-consistency is that Kalibak was standing on a roof for more than half of the original Fourth World run.
Oliver Gomez
Kalibak look like a troll and Darkseid looks like a rock man, both having primarily human traits and the weird elongated face that sculpt has. The New Gods basically looked for the most part human user. Watch The Furies be ugly ass harpies
Oliver Hall
I could sit here for the rest of my night and post all of the reasons that you're 100% dead wrong but instead it's the filter for you.
Colton Evans
How fucking dare you compare Kirby to Bendis. Jesus Christ Rooney just fuck off already you faggot
Samuel Lewis
>BAWWW BADGUY DOESNT LOOK LIKE SOME FUCKWAD WITH A HORN HELMET
you probably want darkseid to have his red miniskirt too
Jace Jenkins
>you probably want darkseid to have his red miniskirt too
Jackson Hernandez
He's supposed to be Darkseids top general, so it does make some sense. My issue is what this means for the look of the rest of the New Gods, can you see Scott Free or Granny Goodness covered in that shit?
Nathaniel Green
Just a joke ya sperg
Leo Sanders
Mate they cut that scene from BvS for a reason. He won't look like that.
I swear every day I consider starting a cult. People will believe anything.
Logan Young
Jesus YES!
Colton Rivera
They're gods, they can look however they want.
Jackson Fisher
>He won't look like that.
Source?
They cut the scene because the movie was 3.5 hours long dummy
Leo King
Honestly I dont see them doing Granny Goodness at all unfortunately. Not only that, but I expect the New Gods of New Genesis to be overly angelic
Juan Perez
The whole point of the New Gods is the ironic dramatic inversions you dopes.
Granny is a sweet old cookie baking granny except she's a manipulative psychopath, Kanto is an Errol Flynn free wheeling dandy fop except he's a ruthless assassin, Godfrey is a pious devout preacher except he's a manipulative huckster selling slavery, Darkseid is a ruthless totalitarian Machiavellian rock faced would be dominator of all free will except he he is soft on his son, etc.
The inversions don't work if they're inhuman CGI monsters.
Brayden Nelson
>Highfather will be a 9ft tall groot looking plant motherfucker
Ryan Ward
Ciaran Hinds is 64 years old. What the fuck did you expect?
Henry Smith
CGI was a mistake.
Cooper Phillips
There is no source for anything in this thread. It's a Sup Forums bait thread and you all are retarded for falling for it.
Liam Long
>he IS soft on his son Only to Orion, and Orion is destined to kill him.
Nathan Bell
It looks like Gandalf's friends all passed away
Levi Collins
wew
Michael Nelson
I grown more and more indifferent to this pic. You're an actor, this is hardly the first time to perform or act without other actors around.
Blake Perez
>juxtaposing a green-screen film over a base film in order to create a fantastical size difference >evidence of CGI being a mistake Are you kidding? That's the kind of stuff that the original King Kong did (only by doing things like filming in front of a projector).
That's as close to practical effects as CGI is going to get.
Andrew Young
>Orion fandom is suffering
If Orion gets more than a "Legend has it Darkseid once had a son, a warrior prince locked in an immortal struggle. But that was a long time ago..." mention I'll eat my dick.
Blake Ortiz
Same dude. I'll never get over what Smallville did.
Alexander Parker
they did the same shit with practical effects and camera tricks in LotR and it look much better.
Luke Martin
It's either GCI monsters or actors cosplaying like MCU's Thor, both are cheesy, the latter is closer to Jack Kirby's designs but it would be too silly for the DCEU.
So the MCU wins again in that regard
Jack Morales
Orion was destroyed back in the early 80s.
Easton Peterson
Krypton in MoS already looked like Apokolips.
Colton Evans
You're pretty much an idiot if you expect anything to look good or accurate in these films. Everything has to be alien armor with muted colors or normies will think it's "silly" and designs have to be focus-tested into oblivion.
Honestly I can't understand how anyone with the tiniest amount of respect for comics can enjoy these movies, you could preface them all with "loosely based on characters that have appeared in DC Comics"
This. Camera tricks and practical effects (with maybe subtle applications of CGI) > pure CGI anyway, especially since the latter ages like fucking milk.
Austin Rivera
What's the 4th World reading order?
Blake Collins
good practical effects > cgi
they all just CGI everything in these days. so they can outsource the computer work to a company in china. giving the film its needed chinese made content, and allowing it easier access to chinese theaters .
David Campbell
Nice bait.
Justin Morales
Actually I heard that 4th World is getting a HUGE Omnibus at the end of the year, so you could just wait until then
Ryan Turner
what about bad practical effects?
Asher Parker
Didn't they do the same for Thanos?
Ryder Flores
depends on the context.
in evil dead or army of darkness, bad effects actually make it all the better.
in anything else. it just looks like you cheap out.
Cameron Scott
Thanos isn't some overly busy design abomination though.
Colton Martinez
damn the chinamen then.
Jack Ward
desu I much prefer the Steppenwolf in OPs pic rather than just "some guy with an axe helmet"
It makes him more unique and gives them more opportunity to do stuff with him, like maybe make him 12 feel tall so we can have a scene where every member of the Leauge fights him at once
I'm not saying go the Doomsday route, they need to give a voice and personality, but I do like the BvS depiction we've seen so far
Adam Jenkins
>Johans floating
Fucking ghostlets. When will they learn.
John Rogers
>Humanoid alien in an axe helmet
Best of both worlds
Oliver Green
They overdetailed his armor a bit but he's still a 9 foot tall big guy with a skrull chin.
Brody Jackson
He has the proportion of some Overwatch or TF2 character, you know what I mean?
Mason Scott
I'd have less of a problem with it if he had any color on him besides fucking grey. Make him various shades of green like the old version or even red and black like in the New 52, anything besides this bland shit.
William Hall
>they need to give a voice and personalit
Do you seriously think Ciaran Hinds would be hired to voice him if they didn't give him personality?
Jonathan Johnson
Judging from that one statue he'll also wear normal clothes. Wonder if we'll get the farmer scene
David Morales
Orion is a violent brute that shouldn't be tolerated by his peers.
Grayson Ward
>it's a dc apologist thread
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Liam Edwards
Again, that IS practical effects. Nothing is computer generated, just computer composited. Which is identical and simply more efficient/with less artifact-inducing than their analog counterparts which have been used for close to a century now.
Christ you people are as petty and ignorant as you are tasteless.
Noah James
Kill yourself Satan
Colton Turner
>Steppenwolf will seem like a rip-off of Surtur because Ragnarok comes out two weeks before Justice League
Colton Jackson
Remember Pirates of the Caribbean 2? When they did the mocap of Bill Nighy while he actually on set, so he could react to what was going on around him and the other actors can react to him? I sure am glad technology has advanced. Now films are better than ever before at being shit.
Angel Baker
>Or shall we just dress up Galadriel as a goth and call it a day
Muh dick. MUH DIIIICK.
Ian Green
Fuck you, you big stinky cunt.
Dominic Morales
Feel free to join us in the 21st century any time.
Charles Walker
>Knocking the potential of CGI >Knocking the potential of CGI in 2017 >Knocking the potential of CGI in 2017 the exact day something with like War of the Planet of the Apes and it's CGI comes out
Parker Watson
>besides fucking grey.
That's just the liquid metal hologram, same as in MOS
James Peterson
>Steppenwolf is a dark god What's he god of?
Camden Wright
Snyder's Superman and Wonder Woman are brown and gray and you're expecting colors from Steppenwolf?