FUCK HOMECOMING

AND FUCK UNCLE TONY

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Am I the only person who really liked that they made Spider-Man someone who grew up in a world where super heroes exist and is guided and mentored by them?

I'm sure there's tons of people who don't like Spider-Man.

Jesus, look at this "Goblin." People actually like that?

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You're one of those people who's not happy unless Peter is a 60 year old man married to MJ with 2 kids and 5 grandkids, aren't you?

To be fair, at least then Spider Girl would be canon

>This actually happened

Guys..... can't we just agree Homecoming was the best Spider-Man film since Spider-Man 2?

>that filename

Homecoming is the worst Spider-Man movie of all time though. Unless you are blind and don't care about the weight of responsibility being a part of the character. And if you don't mind pissing on Uncle Ben's grave during the rubble scene.

No, I'm just one of the people who read the comics and feel like this is a bigger disgrace than Dragon Ball Evolution.

>And if you don't mind pissing on Uncle Ben's grave during the rubble scene.
Wasn't just that. That scene pissed on everything If This Be My Destiny was about. It's a scene that describes Peter's motives, we see him torn between giving in and getting his Aunt's medication. Then we flashes of Peter's loved ones. It shows that his entire motive is to keep the few he has left safe. Which ultimately gives him the strength to lift the heavy thing because his strength comes from them.

In this movie? "Oh no! I wont be able to suck Tony's cock if I don't". Which is why that scene sums up everything wrong with Homecoming. This isn't a movie about Spider-Man.

And fuck your performance in Valerian.

I still don't know why Raimi didn't go with the original design. youtube.com/watch?v=QEZBhL5lpqg

I say this as someone who isn't going to see Homecoming in theaters because of the slaves line & I don't give a shit about it except the Vulture.

Are you fucking insane?
Anyone of the trailers for Homecoming is better in everyway to the entirety of Evolution, it's not possible for the full movie to be so.

>Spider-Man someone who grew up in a world where super heroes exist and is guided and mentored by them?
That's te opposite of what made spiderman unique.

> Do something different with the back of the head.
> Make the green darker.
> Give the eyes a translucentness.
> Tone down the ears just a bit.
And that would be fucking perfect.

no he met the Fantastic Four

you're crazy

It doesn't fit the rest of the movie. The robo golbin mask is dumb but it makes sense within the rest of the movie

I know for a fact you didn't read that book. Because he met the Fantastic Four solely for him to get paid because he needed to help his Aunt with rent. Only for him to essentially tell them to fuck off when he realized they were non profit. Spider-Man was the first kid super hero to not have a mentor.

Then why didn't they go with the better concept for power ranger Goblin?

Not sure but you have to give Dafoe credit. He only loses the mask at the end right before he dies after getting his ass kicked. Too many other characters in other films lose their mask at any opportunity to give the actor more face time

>mfw Sony cut out the scene where Peter fucks Harry up after Gwen's death.

GDI.

i'm sick of the green goblin now, if we're gonna do a goblin at least go with hobgoblin this time around

>scene where Peter fucks Harry

The rubble scene was honestly the worst scene ever. When Peter cried for help like a bitch ass nigga i shook my head in shame

Seriously though. Homecoming Peter is a fucking pussy compared to 616 Peter.

I paid to see it in the theatres, it was entertaining but not what i would consider great. When the blueray comes out, i'll buy it week 1. Not because i love it but to spite you. Some analyst at Marvel will get another tally on their spreadsheet and add a liitle more justification for a trilogy. You're welcome.

Holy shit this! I wanted to see a superhero, not a weenie crying bitch tears.

B-But the critics and 92% on RT! It was like a real child!!!

Why is no one talking about the fact that Peter is a literal sociopath in this series?

>Face it white boy yo ass just *smacks lips* hit the mutha fcking *Smoke some weed* dank pot nigga!$!$ * Protest against Trump and white people while fuck the police plays in the background*
* gets a nobel peace prize for fighting oppression*

He's a fucking 15 year old kid you retards.

This was also a 15 year old kid.

>not a weenie crying bitch tears.
And I'm supposed to believe you went to a SPIDER-MAN movie for this?

This is one too.

>These fucking complaints again.

Fuck you. Eat a dick. And go to hell.

He's not just any 15 year old kid. He's fucking Spider-man.

>crying because the man that raised you is dying and the last thing you said to him was to fuck off

vs

>crying in fear like a little bitch because you don't have your uncle tony to save you

I like the other video better.

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Not an argument. These are very valid points. If This Be My Destiny is a defining moment for the character and they completely shat all over it.

He's young yet, he hasn't built up the intestinal fortitude found in America's Hero John McCain yet.

I feel like there's something mentally wrong with people who feel the need to inject politics into fucking everything.

This one was also in deadly situations before.

When was the last time Homecoming Peter had to actually face about his mortality for a prolonged period?

It does not make it the worst of all time I will tell you that. These "valid" points have also been refuted in past threads as well.

>Are you fucking insane?
>Anyone of the trailers for Homecoming is better in everyway to the entirety of Evolution, it's not possible for the full movie to be so.
Different user here.

Homecoming understand Spider-Man on a superficial level. That's why all the casuals thought it was great. They got their web-swinging and quips and bad guy of the week. There's more to it than that. Homecoming decided to change the fundamental elements of the character. In that respect, it's the same as Dragonball Evolution, if not worse for being a wolf in sheep's clothing.

Never. Which is why this isn't a Spider-Man movie. Peter spent his /entire/ fucking high school career trying to figure out what great responsibility was.

So here's a though. DON'T ADAPT THIS MOMENT IN THE FIRST PLACE IF YOU'RE JUST GONNA MAKE HIM A PUSSY.

Quit being a retard for a second and stop defending the character when most complaints are about what's happening off camera.

More to the point his lack of experience to that point should have been what made this even more a test of his strength of character. This was the moment to show that he was spider MAN and they crapped it.

This is bait, right? Did you miss the part where he lifted the building screaming "I am Spider-Man!" realizing he doesn't need Tony's cock in his mouth to be a super hero?
How do so many people ignore the entire premise of the movie? How are you all so fixated on Tony's dick that you can't see that it was about Peter not needing it, not the other way around.

>These "valid" points have also been refuted in past threads as well.
No they haven't.

Enlighten me then. How isn't the If This Be My Destiny scene completely shitting on the scene?

>Did you miss the part where he lifted the building screaming "I am Spider-Man!" realizing he doesn't need Tony's cock in his mouth to be a super hero?
He did it so he could prove himself to Papa Stark.

>In that respect, it's the same as Dragonball Evolution

Holy hyperbole. Evolution was something else entirely.

Fuck. At least Dragonball Evolution had the supporting cast retain at least /some/ of their character traits.

It had nothing to d with his age or Tony, seeing spiderman actually cry for help when he doesn't need it is stupid mother fucker can lift a damn tank and throw it why does he have trouble with rocks?

He faced his mortality for the first, time, cried about it,but then he nutted the fuck up and lifted the rubble.

That was the test of character. The fact that he did it in the end.

>Trying too hard now.

The entire fucking movie was about Peter proving himself to Tony. Fuck off. He was trying to prove himself to Stark.

He literally lifted the rocks, he realized he didn't need help and showed he is, in fact, Spider-Man without anyone's help.

Comic spidey strength is different from movie spidey strength, and movie spidey never had any feats of lifting a tank proportions.

And it was a lot of concrete.

Name two supporting cast members who are from the comics that retained just one personality trait.

The building scene was the climax of the movie and conveyed the literal opposite point. He didn't need Stark's tech or help to beat Vulture or lift the building.

>H-Help me daddy Tony
In all seriousness fuck that scene, he should've cried when Tony took the suit away instead of crying because he "couldn't" lift some damn rubble

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May is a chill older parental figure like in Ultimate,

Flash was a douchebag who was bullying parker

He shouldn't have cried in the first place user, he should know his own strength, plus he was literally grunting and struggling to lift it before he cried.

This is bullshit, because guess what's happening in Infinity War? It was totally about him proving himself to Tony.

>he should've cried when Tony took the suit away
Nah, he should have done what teen Peter would have done in the comics and told him to fuck off.

Flash was not a bully in this, he was more of a love interest. Ned was more of a bully to Peter than Flash was.

That he cried at all is the problem.

go watch the Spectacular episode. There's a brief moment where Pete is ready to give up but then when he hears Gwen he realizes he's still needed and lifts the heavy machine off himself because he's Spiderman You can have your hero show human emotions but making him cry like a baby isn't heroic.

And Im not even saying he should never cry but save it for stuff like when Gwen Stacy dies or shit like that. There's a difference between looking human and looking like a bitch

He tried his best, failed, thought he was going to die, and cried.

Then he found his inner strength, and succeeded.

And inner strength has been comic staple bullshit since the beginning so you can't go ragging on it for being in the movie.

But he didn't, that was the point. That scene was him realizing he had the strength to do it himself, and he did.

Sounds like you have an issue with another movie, then. For Homecoming it was a sound character arc. This is literally not-muh and I seriously doubt you finished watching the movie, if at all.

This would have actually been better, imagine if Peter cried when he had to let the symbiote go.

>May is a chill older parental figure
May is an over bearing busy body who helicopter parented Peter constantly.
>Flash was a douchebag who was bullying parker
"bullying"

Peter Parker was one of the strongest Marvel characters back when there were like 10 characters.

Spectacular Spider-man had this happen after facing many lethal oponents- He faced his mortality.

Homecoming Spider-man did not. He was trapped and going to die a slow painful death. He's also a teenager. He doesn't have to bee heroic all the time, especially not when he sucks it up and does the heroic thing in the end.

He didn't try his best, he made a complete rookie mistake and confronted Vulture out in the open like a dumbass, also where the fuck was his spider sense through all of this anyway? That scene wouldn't have happened if he was as smart as comic book peter.

Not in Ultimate, which is where they drew inspiration from.

It was technically bullying. Him being a bully is different from him being a competent bully.

Why are you comic fucks so insufferable? If a 15 year old kid was trapped under a massive pile of rocks and Rubble he'd be in shock and or cry out for help 10 out of 10 times. You're not going to have a little kid act all tough and heroic while he's being crushed, Jesus Christ. This is a movie that needs to be taken somewhat seriously, not a fucking comic book

Old comic book May could only pester Peter when he got home, as she had no way of contacting him when he left their place.

Movie May has advanced technology with which to pester Peter. That's just the way the world changes.

And Flash Thompson was never someone who beat up Peter Parker for his lunch money, you are confusing old comics with your own childhood victimization.

>That scene wouldn't have happened if he was as smart as comic book peter.

b-b-b-but webshooters!

The nigga is still one of the strongest.
He was struggling to lift the damn rock user, he already knew he had the strength to do it because he stopped a damn bus before he meant Tony

Him saying "Penis Parker" is not him bullying someone.

>He's also a teenager.

Shut up. Spider man was always a teenager. In literally EVERY version of the story he was a teenager at some point. It's not an excuse.

You can say HE FACED HIS MORTALITY till you're blue in the face and it won't make the scene less retared because they shouldn't have adapted the scene if they weren't going to do it right. Save it for the sequel save it for Infinity.

And you're not getting the issue. This is a movie. He's not real. He didn't cry because of his mortality, he didn't cry because he was 15 he cried because they wanted him to cry and that was the wrong move.

Jesus Christ.

>If a fifteen year old superhero that can bench press an eighteen wheeler was stuck under a rock he'd cry
ok

>confronted Vulture out in the open like a dumbass
Ok now you are just arguing to the point of being retarded. He confronted him inside a concrete building, with this power suit in another part of the building entirely.

Take a deep breath.

His best was making rookie mistakes. He's a rookie.

And his spider sense was what had him flipping around dodging the wings coming from behind before the building collapsed. Then the building collapsed and he had nowhere to dodge. What do you want, the screen to wiggle whenever spider sense activates?

Comic peter forgot that people don't react well to being suddenly stopped in freefall.
Confronting a villain who has remote control wings he didn't know about ranks a bit lower on the list of dumb mistakes.

You just have to accept that the people behind the comics and movies just don't get the character at all.

>The nigga is still one of the strongest.

He's weaker than every strong guy on every comic team ever. He's even weaker than a lot of guys who aren't the strong guy, Iron Man for example.

user you still take precautions did you know that?

He was under a rock he couldn't move and he didn't know if help would ever come.

He couldn't move it until he realized his inner strength.

Yes they have. Especially how he never has any "weight of responsibility". Was literally going to drop everything to being Spider-man full time as a job basically instead of using his powers to help others. Learned that the suit wasn't what defined him either. And rejected the offer to join the Avengers in the end.

Because instead of the Tony stark meme anons are using, it was finding that strength in himself that the suit wasn't what made him Spider-man in the first place.

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Stay salty Avi

He cried because that's what every single 15 year old would have realistically done in that situation. You sound like one of those people who tries to suppress all their emotions and refuses to cry, ever

Are we talking about raw bower or physical strength?
>Then the building collapsed and he had nowhere to dodge. What do you want, the screen to wiggle whenever spider sense activates?
user the nigga could have did the slingshot maneuver

>love interest
>bully

You don't know what either of those mean

He already had that strength before he meant Tony. He literally knew that already because he stopped a 3 ton vehicle going 40 miles per hour while crashing into a bus.

>Movie May has advanced technology with which to pester Peter.
What? No she didn't.
>And Flash Thompson was never someone who beat up Peter Parker for his lunch money, you are confusing old comics with your own childhood victimization.
Flash still beat the crap out of kids. We've seen him doing it growing up and we've been given no reason to believe he ever stopped doing it. It was also implied he was doing that shit off screen. But you know, comics code.