What literally KILLED Kids WB?

What literally KILLED Kids WB?

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Hank Hill and Silver Surfer

Generally speaking, stuff with "Kids" in it's name is often shortlived

the wb shut down

home video, Nick/CN, the internet, video games

Pokemon.

Kids don't watch Saturday morning cartoons anymore I guess

I remember watching the weekday afternoon block after school though

This. Pokemon was such a hit that it paved the way for KidsWB to start cutting costs and corners by just licensing and localizing anime. Things eventually just kinda dwindled and died a slow death thanks to other changes.

It's like how Fox Kids went through a death via 4kids and the FoxBox.

These anons are correct.

I'd argue that taking Pokemon out of the block was what killed Kids WB, as they had built much of their programming around the series that when it was plucked away, they were like a headless chicken.

Kek, no.

Pokemon gave them boatlodes of cash and a ton of viewers same with Yugioh. What really killed them was growing too dependent of cheap shows and the falling quality of the shows they made themselves. They were already on their death bed when they became Vortex and were playing DBZ reruns along side Spectacular Spiderman. The day Johnny Test premiered back to back with Coconut Fred was the beginning of the end.

It was not a life form.

Therefore nothing literally killed it.

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>I'd argue that taking Pokemon out of the block was what killed Kids WB
They were already deep into 3rd gen, and at that point Pokemon had already stopped being the powerhouse that it once was.

Well the WB doesn't exist anymore.

So there's that.

I think we cal all agree that from around 98 to 02 was the high point of Kids WB.

On the other hand, it's much harder to pin down the turn high point for Fox Kids, but I'd say it would be either sometime before Kids WB became a powerhouse or the day the Digimon movie came out.

Kids stopped watching cartoons on broadcast TV.

Kids WB stuck around for years after the WB became the CW and they killed the frog.

>TFW you remember the commercials promoting the change showing teen girls talking about it
>TFW you agreed with the one who said that she missed the frog in a disappointed voice

It didn't help that the shows they had weren't worth watching.

It gets under my skin that they stopped the after school cartoon block. Sure I get that some kids would sleep in on Saturday, but the block from 3 to 5 was perfect.

Kids WB ended in 2008. Vortex was, like, 2013 or so

It's the exact opposite. Most other Saturday morning blocks either died in the early 00s or rebranded to only airing reruns of cable shows. The only two that managed to last until the late 00s were KidsWB and 4kids.tv. Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh were the main reason those two managed to outlast all of the others. KidsWB likely would have died in 2002-ish otherwise.

These kinds of cartoon blocks pretty much went obsolete since we got channels like Cartoon Network.

>would be either sometime before Kids WB became a powerhouse or the day the Digimon movie came out

so '98 to '01?

4kids-dubbed anime

Michigan J. Frog is our guy.

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By the time Kids WB ended in May 2008
here is what they were airing


Skunk Fu!
Tom and Jerry Tales
The Spectacular Spider-Man
World of Quest
Johnny Test
Eon Kid

They also aired Will and Dewitt and Magi-Nation at that time

September 2014

liberals demand for e/I programming killed it

Wasn't too far off! Thank you

Well it wasn't alive so nothing "literally" killed it retard

Autism

Didn't Fox Kids eventually transform into Disney XD?

Only in the UK.

I looked up the Saturday morning schedule for the CW. They don't even air e/i stuff anymore. It's all Paid Programming.

This

No kid wants to be reminded that he's getting pussy baby tv

Was Spectacular Spider-Man good, or was it shit?

Short answer, big government.

Long answer, congress passed a new law that required all broadcast networks to either air a minimum amount of educational programming or stop airing children's programming altogether. Since education programming has always been a ratings black hole, the networks decided it would be better to just abandon their children's programming blocks than it would be to waste valuable airtime on shows no one will ever watch. Even filling those timeslots with infomercials would at least generate SOME revenue.

Trump is getting rid of this due to net streaming and that more and more people already have cable now of day then in the late 90s so theres that.

A variety of reasons.

One of which were FCC guidelines that required any children's programming to be educational

Competition from dedicated children's networks on cable like Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon

Increasing coats in animation considering flash wasn't around at the time

Overall lack of interest from children. Games and internet were starting to takeover a niche previously owned by cartoons and toys

Cable an streaming. But was anything better than waking up at 5:30 just to watch cartoons?

>congress passed a new law that required all broadcast networks to either air a minimum amount of educational programming or stop airing children's programming altogether.
This is the kind of meddlesome retardation that makes me not want to support the FCC having any kind of regulatory power of the internet.

Children's programming on national television is pretty much dead now. I think only ABC has a small kids block now

They even had a contest during the transition period calling for girls to audition for a shitty girls show called cheetah girls

Probably far too late to resurrect children's programming blocks on broadcast networks, but I can appreciate the gesture on a symbolic level at least.

Pokemon being taken away was a massive reason I stopped caring, but then Yu-Gi-Oh moving on to Cartoon Network with GX was the final real nail in the coffin. Then it was just a shamble of its own self with Johnny Test being their mainstay.

I remember there being a network in my area that had nothing going for it BUT after school and Saturday morning cartoons and they had the only after school cartoon block that ran past 6pm. They had the starship troopers series, mummies alive, Roswell conspiracies, monster rancher, ect

Sounds like a UPN affiliate.

Shows like Magic School Bus and Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego were GOAT though. The problem had a workaround but networks didn't want to put in the effort

It wasn't UPN at least not in my area. The channel was WADL Detroit and they had a 4kids animation black that ran from 2-7 on weekdays and 7-3 on Saturday. Good times

They didn't use pic related to his full potential.

Magic School Bus only stays on the air because PBS is funded by the government and donations from wealthy patrons.

Other networks have to actually EARN their money.

>Detroit.
My man.

You're talking about channel 38, right? I remember watching The Magic School Bus and Archie's Weird Mysteroes (sometimes Liberty Kids or Sherlock Holmes in the 27th Century if I woke up early) before watching Fox Kids on that channel. On Fox Kids I'd watch Power Rangers (before they moved it to ABC's Disney's One Saturday Morning over on channel 7), the first two Digimon series, with maybe a little bit of Digimon Tamers and some other anime I can't remember. After that they had Fox Box and 4KidsTV before changing the block from Saturday to Sunday. Man, them having a block on Sundays was a blessing. It wasn't always the best stuff but it was way better than nothing, or even worse, the Christian cartoons that would play on some grainy channel.

I remember for some time UPN had an after school cartoon block. All I can remember it having are Recess, Buzz Lightyear of Star Command and Digimon Tamers and Digimon Frontier.

Full-time cartoon channels.

One of the reasons for it dying off was because they couldn't have KidsWB competing with sister network CN

>never saw this bumper mentioned anywhere
>someone posts it on twitter like two weeks ago
>now everyone's talking about it

why

E/I was never that big of a deal, given how damn loose the requirements for an E/I show were. I remember The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh and Disney's Doug both qualifying.

i remembered a whole block with Hank talking to other cartoon characters. Why Silver Surfer the only one that's archived?

Spectacular Spiderman is so good that it's totally worth keeping all that other shit around just so it can keep airing.

That was a local affiliate. Those pop up in a few areas and generally have lineups consisting entirely of whatever syndication they can get cheap. I also lived in Michigan, Kalamazoo area, and I remember we briefly had one that aired a bunch of random cartoons like The Flinstones and the 80s Littliest Pet Shop.

Cable and then the internet took their viewers. Then 4kids took over and shit all over Fox then moved to WB, leaving Fox Saturday mornings to commercials. Once 4kids got caught fucking with taxes WB made Vortexx, and while it was a hell of a lot better it didn't last very long and was the last Saturday morning block.

They played the episode of DBZ Kai where Goku kills Frieza and "dies" on an exploding planet Namek, which I thought was funny.

Yeah, killing afterschool cartoons was a bad idea. Especially with cable's ever increasing prices.

Yeah bro channel 38 was great. I pretty much lived for Starship Troopers after school and Roswell conspiracies on Saturdays. That block on UPN that you're thinking about was Disney's One Two, a spin off block of their One Saturday Morning animation block. Never cared for it personally, only thing I liked was The Monkey Boys

I'm a trendsetter mother fucker

Maybe so but literally is literally the most over-used word on this board that hasn't been word-filtered yet.

Welcome fellow Michigander!
Anyway This! TV is trying to bring back weekday and weekend cartoons with kidsclick.tv and they're giving the FCC the middle finger by not having the E/I brand in their lineup

>Pokemon and Yu-gi-oh were the main reason those two managed to outlast all of the others
And when they lost those it was Sonic X

When they got Power Rangers

Yeah, Power Rangers and Digimon were clearly the strongest shows on Fox Kids.

Digimon and Power Rangers

Same thing that killed Saturday morning cartoons: Dedicated cartoon networks like Cartoon Network.

Dedicated cartoon channels. When you can watch cartoons whenever, what makes Saturday morning special?

>Littliest Pet Shop

*Littlest Pet Shop

Yeah those damn liberals, causing all the problems in the whole world

>mfw Kids WB is still on in Australia
It's literally on right this second. Bumpers and all.

>Mysteroes

nine eleven

I thought World of Quest and Eon Kid was good

>Kids will never experience Saturday Morning cartoons ever again
>That feel when you had to flip between 3 channels to catch all the premiers of the shows you watched.

no, it merged with UPN.

and you're wrong anyways, it died well before then. is correct, according to Tom Ruegger

source from reddit reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4ehhxz/iama_tom_ruegger_creator_of_animaniacs_ama/d20ae1u/

Moreso, relying on licensed anime also meant killing the WB brand identity in a way. Kid's WB's whole gimmick was making their block feel like a shared universe. Something like their sister Time warner network, cartoon Network, did. Having comedy, western action, and anime all felt balanced; they could have enough control to do the clips in between shows using the actual voice actors, even if the shows were done by different companies. Its silly, but stuff like seeing Batman singlike Jigglypuff gives a block an identity. Thats why people still obsess over toonami even though it was just edited anime with mediocre dubs.

Once WB animation started dwindling down from the Spielberg era, and they relied on more Flash cartoons from Canada, they lost a sense of identity. They weren't Kid's "WB" anymore.

Not even abc. They dropped their stuff in 2010/2011 or so. There is kidsclick on syndication, with older shows and stuff never before seen in america

Well this explains why they made Magi-Nation an E/I show. I loved the video game and card game as a kid. When they finally did make the cartoon show like they always wanted it was horrible because of all the educational stuff they where just forcing into it.

Saturday Morning Cartoons are back
the lineup is kinda ass
but its still better than nothing i guess

PBS Kids is still going on, right?

4kids made Yugioh GX end with Jaden dying, half the cast dead and the other half trapped in the hell dimension

>PBS Kids is still going on, right?
I'm willing to bet that's where they get most of their funding. No way that'll ever die, but it'll never be for an audience above 3rd grade.

What is this?
What channel/network?

its early morning cartoons on weekdays
and weekend morning cartoons

its on the CW

It's on sinclair owned stations. If worst comes to worst and your local nbc/cbs/cw/my network tv doesnt have it, try thistv, the national affiliate for the block.

Huh, it's kind of hard to tell what's playing since TV guide only says "local programing"

kidsclicktv.com/schedule
It could definitely be worse

4Kids stopped dubbing Pokémon in 2006 and the the episodes started sounding like total shit and cringeworthy.

I gave up on watching Pokémon regularly back in 2006 but didn't completely abandon it until August 2010 when DP ended.

Ash's brain "resetting" and pikachu losing to a snivy is what finally did it for me.

But I'll always look back fondly on waking up every Saturday morning at 8:30 and watching the latest Pokémon. Priceless memories.

>pikachu losing to a snivy
Oh good, I'm not the only one, I picked up the series later down the road but that shit was stupid.

I remember when they lost the airing rights to Pokemon and they got so butthurt over it, they refused to release the rights to the older episodes. That was when it ended. But fuck them, they ended up forcing a bunch of edits on some of the anime series they got a hold of. I dropped the fuck out of it after Xiaolin Showdown ended.

that law was passed in 1990, though.

he's lying. it depends on where you live. go to the kidsclick website to find out. in my area it plays on thistv. i tried watching it the first day and from the get go 2 things ruined it. 1, it's in SD only and incredibly shit quality. 2, they fucked up and played angry birds toons when ladybug was supposed to air. and i mean the exact same angry birds cartoons they just aired on that same day right then. halfway through it changed to ladybug but only half the episode was shown due to the previous fuck up.

honestly, i doubt kidsclick will last at all

And now with kids watching cartoons on Netflix/Hulu/on demand, there's no point in getting out of bed on a Saturday morning.

You did

What? why? that's kinda a shitty conclusion for a kids card game.