>empire is strongest force in galaxy >rebels destroy 2 Death Star >empire is supposedly defeated >nope >20 years later, build another Death Star >empire is all of a sudden the strongest force in the galaxy again >people who blew up 2 Death Stars are still considered “rebels”
It's all part of their master plan. Crashing the Star Wars universe With no survivors
Jace Murphy
We're all rebels by right.
Lucas Evans
was that actually seen in the film? that thing is the new death star?
Luis Davis
>Be rebellion >Rebel >Win Rebellion, take down government >Become government >Intentionally sabotage your own new government >Become rebellion >Rebel The absolute state of Disneywars
Benjamin Powell
Why is it so smooth lol
Caleb Martin
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Adam Phillips
Two Death Stars at once
Charles Watson
If I'm not mistaken, there is a canon book that explains how this happens between 6 and 7. I have never read it, I just heard about it.
Charles Baker
>empire is all of a sudden the strongest force in the galaxy again
very weak stroytelling - like, waht even is the emperor's tax policy?
Nicholas Perry
that was suggested for RotJ in development.
Jeremiah Powell
Only the next logical progression of doomsday weapons of course. First they blew up planets, then they blew up solar systems. The next Death Star will blow up the whole fucking galaxy, or at least the parts the Empire doesn’t like.
Jeremiah Campbell
serious try at this... in star trek TNG there's an episode there's an ancient device everyone is going after. It's an Iconian gate. It basically opens up a doorway which allows instant travel across vast distances. It would be an obvious tactical advantage and it would be a change from the big lasers.
Something like this also appeared in treasure planet and there's obviously the stargate as well.
Daniel Gray
Why did the Empire spend countless resources on 2 Death Stars when they could've built a fleet of Executors instead?
Owen Parker
>the 9/11 terrorists became the strongest force in the world when they blew up the WTC
Chase Long
The next Death Star will be so powerful it will be able to destroy the entire franchise
>screencap this
Oliver Jackson
Imagine actually writing this and thinking you made a good point
Andrew Parker
Shock and awe. Planetary destruction in one shot is much more scary than a fleet parked outside a planet, chipping away for an hour. Plenty of time for a counter-attack, like with a little A-wing.
Angel Wright
I didn’t realize that the 9/11 terrorists blew up the two largest military bases, killed millions of soldiers, sunk a dozen of our ships and killed the president.
Kevin Sanchez
because the death star could destroy planets with their shield generators on the executor couldn't
Anthony Walker
Fucking kek
Nicholas Peterson
>be the Empire >spend endless resources and man-hours to build a moon-sized engineering marvel called the Death Star >incorporate a basic design flaw that allows a tiny surface ship to completely destroy the moon-sized space station using nothing more than a tiny but well placed missile >decades later >spend endless resources and man-hours to redesign and rebuild an even larger and more powerful version of the moon-sized space station >incorporate the same design flaw that led to the destruction of previous Death Star >watch as New Death Star is completely destroyed in the same way by yet another tiny but well placed missile
And yet there are some who will insist that Star Wars is serious and intelligent high art.
Jaxson Ross
>incorporate a basic design flaw that allows a tiny surface ship to completely destroy the moon-sized space station using nothing more than a tiny but well placed missile t. Brainlet who didn’t watch rogue one.
Jaxson Walker
t.Brainlet who thinks R1 fixed a plothole that never existed
Lucas Bell
It did though. You didn’t watch the movie.
Jaxon Murphy
That retconning shit doesn't count. The rebel attack on the DS1 was fool's hope. Luke only succeeding from trusting the Force to fire those torpedoes.
The DS2 didn't have a flaw, it was half-complete. It was destroyed due to arrogance of showing up for battle half-exposed.
Juan Cooper
>retcon You don’t even know what that means. Where in the OT is there a different explanation for the exhaust port?
Cameron Richardson
>And yet there are some who will insist that Star Wars is serious and intelligent high art Kotor was good
Adrian Murphy
JJ and the folks at Disney don't really think logical consequence should exist in SW. It's just a setting for stories about happy-go-lucky rebels fighting an all-powerful Empire. Now with more black and yellow people.
So do I, it's shit. Why do world-ending ships have to be spheres? It's not like logical matters in this universe so not make it looks like a fuckhuge starship the size of a planet. Much cooler.
Mason Morris
>Why is it so smooth lol Liquid ocean underneath
Bentley Harris
Why does an exhaust port need an explanation?
Levi Morris
Death Donut
Gabriel Gutierrez
Holy fuck, you’re an invalid. Rogue One explains it.
Daniel Rogers
A Death Solar System
Noah Reyes
That's exactly my point dumbass, why does the fact that the Death Star has an exhaust port need an explanation in the first place? Everything has exhaust ports
Chase Cooper
Explaining its existence isn’t a retcon you fucking retard.
Luis Hill
I never said it was, that was a different person But just because it isn't a 'retcon' doesn't mean it isn't retarded
Eli Jenkins
Um it needs an exhaust port because of thermodynamics.
It's sphere-shaped so it is about as ineffective at dissipating heat as it can be in terms of shapes. The center of the ship gets extremely hot and if it doesn't exhaust that heat to space it would turn the whole thing into an oven eventually, with only the parts closest to space on the outside possibly being survivable.
Nathaniel Russell
>durr it wasn’t me Kill yourself
Josiah Turner
If anything the fact that the entire Death Star only has one tiny exhaust port is a bigger plothole. We need a Rogue 2 to explain this
Camden Ross
They retconned the idea that it needed to be a design flaw, ruining the entire ending of the original.
Wyatt Powell
It wasn’t a design flaw though. It was purposely put in to take down the empire. Still a shit plot point, but how could you be this much of a brainlet to not be able to follow the story of a Disney flick?
Dominic Morales
>It was purposely put in to take down the empire. That's fucking retarded. Glad I skipped R1.
Ian Sanders
Everyone can follow the story, we're arguing that the story is retarded Nobodies denying that the port was put in intentionally according to new Disney-Canon, we're denying that they needed to write an entire movie about the origin story of an exhaust port.
Ian Cox
>I’m arguing about something I never watched Jesus fuck.
Gabriel Wood
meant to say intentional design flaw
William Hernandez
>surprised by this Where do you think you are?
Joshua Green
>it was a design flaw >it wasn’t >well it was a retcon >no it wasn’t >w-we’ll the movie didn’t need to happen! This is what you call moving the goalposts. Building two other Death Stars was stupid, but please keep up.
Charles Rivera
>it wasn’t me! >I meant to say something else
Julian Rodriguez
Why do you assume that everyone you respond to is the same person? You're responding to at least 3 different people.
Josiah Jenkins
this >Giant space anus
Landon Anderson
its a big franchise
William Hill
>butting into a chain of posts >durr why don’t you realize it wasn’t me
Cameron Williams
Is Space Jihad back on the menu?
Isaac Thompson
Maybe if your argument centred around anything other than nitpicking words from previous responses then it would make your life a lot easier But of course you defend Disney Wars so there is no real argument to be made
Blake Ramirez
Dipshit, it has always been this way. You should automatically assume everyone is different unless you're watching the poster count or someone is using a trip.
Don't be a jackass, we're all trying to enjoy the Sup Forums experience here.
Asher Wood
hyperspace-ramming planets into other planets
Asher Williams
Permanent Interplanetary Revolution, it makes sense if you are a Jew.
Evan Butler
>b-boss we did it AGAIN >but this time its even BIGGER retarded cashgrab for nostalgia manchildren
Thomas Ortiz
>German Empire is defeated in World War I >Completely disarmed, subject to heavy reparation payments by the allies >STILL manages to rearm and re-militarize with a bigger army and better weapons to threaten Europe again 20 years later
WTF, real life has such shit writing!
Christian Harris
>>people who blew up 2 Death Stars are still considered “rebels” should have called themselves "idiots"
Ayden Thompson
Only a matter of time until we get Halo-esque galaxy annihilating superweapons in Star Wars
Kevin Sullivan
>we're all trying to enjoy the Sup Forums experience here. >reddit spacing kys
Chase Barnes
>But of course you defend Disney Wars so there is no real argument to be made No, and I've clearly stated multiple times the plot is retarded. You're just too much of a fucking invalid to follow simple story lines from brainless movies.
Owen White
>that allows a tiny surface ship to completely destroy the moon-sized space station using nothing more than a tiny but well placed missile This is like saying that Hitler could've been easily killed with a pistol. The Death Star was heavily guarded, the entire fleet that went with Luke was BTFO, and it took an impossible shot guided by a jedi to take it out.
Hunter Powell
The first order are literal fanboys desperate to prove themselves as the true inheritors of the empire's legacy, so they built a biggerer and betterer death star because that's what they think star wars is supposed to be about, building big superweapons
I could have done without yet another death star but I feel that they did enough to justify its inclusion within the thematic meaning of the story, and starkiller base isn't THAT important in the climax anyway. It's mostly just a plot device to get the Republic out of the picture and to get all of the main characters in one place for the climax. The actual battle to destroy it is basically a footnote
Justin Rogers
>real life happened so why can't a shitty parallel of real life happen? galactic political entities won't behave like terrestrial entities. the empire turned into the republic again after the emperor was defeated anyways.
Tyler Jenkins
Right, because you know exactly how a fictional galactic republic would behave. At this point you're just whining you didn't get the New Republic from the EU.
Daniel Flores
never said how it would work, just that it would work differently than modern politics. comparing their galaxy's politics to modern politics is like comparing modern politics to ancient greek politics. I don't care about the extended universe, I just know bad sci-fi based on its terrible plot emergence.
Gavin Jackson
It will be a planet sized star destroyer with 2 death stars where the shield generators are and 2 collosal tie fighter panels on each side with a moon sized Darth Vader mask on the prow, it was a good friend.
Blake White
The called his father BRENDEL in the Phasma book
> mfw
Aiden Moore
Did you forget that the "strong powerful women" leading the rebellion in the OT had the Republic DISMANTLE THEIR MILITARY?
The Empire was created due to a highly centralized military loyal to the Supreme Chancellor alone. It makes sense that the New Republic would want to decentralize its military and instead focus on local peacekeeping forces, but it didn't end up working out because no one wanted to do their part because they figured the Republic Fleet that still was maintained was enough
Kind of like how NATO is supposed to be about collective defense but most smaller nations don't bother because they know they can just rely on the US, UK, and France should anything go wrong
Sebastian Anderson
but then there was war
Easton Harris
>Build 3 death star >when they could just buy a bunch of hyperdrives piloted by droids What did empire mean by this?