>pays pizza guy for pizza he didn't even order just to help the pizza guy out so he doesn't have to pay for the pizza out of his own wage >doesn't pressure developers, just tells them to take their time and do it right, he wants to deliver a quality product when it's ready, not grab a quick buck like the CEO >doesn't sexually harass anyone at work >politely asks for a coffee, even though he's the reason the entire company exists and the reason those people at the company have high paying jobs >takes some garbage from the garbage can >goes home and plays the future equivalent of GTA
but he deserves eternal damnation because he has a shitty social skills, right guys?
He stole their DNA and made virtual clones of them without their permission, including a fucking kid. Yes he is a scumbag and deserves what he got.
With those kind of tendencies he was inevitabley going to shoot up a school or something. Good riddance.
Gavin Bell
>is white >is a male what more do you need? go back to Sup Forums, this is our board now sweetie
Leo Williams
Can you take this falseflagging and use it to trigger the people who call me a soyboy? I could really use some effective comebacks.
Wyatt Jones
>use it to trigger the people who call me a soyboy I can't imagine that anybody who'd randomly say this wouldn't fit the definition
Zachary Hernandez
The time of the whiteboi is over, the age if kangz has begun
Carson Perez
Yes. People with shitty social skills should be lined up and shot. End of story.
Wyatt Cruz
>blonde hair >blue eyes What else do you need? Hes literally hitler.
Jeremiah Peterson
To be fair I wouldn't mind watching a miniseries about the crew once they enter the internet.
Matthew Turner
he was considered evil because he was abusing AI with the capacity for independent thought
Wyatt Brown
did he know they had independent thought?
Anthony Jackson
the pizza guy wouldn't be deprived of his wage, he hustled that nerd easy
Lucas Thompson
He also enjoys being cruel and tyrannical. Did you forget that?
Samuel Diaz
this thread is bait, half the point of the episode was to set him up as a sympathetic character in some aspects to then show you that he's a monster and none of his personality traits were actually that of a good person regardless.
Jaxon Hall
>pays pizza guy for pizza he didn't even order just to help the pizza guy out >doesn't even tip
Yeah big help faggot. Also >but he deserves eternal damnation because he has a shitty social skills, right guys?
No, he deserves it for making programs that could outsmart him without the proper safeties in place you stupid mook.
is dumpster diving really stealing? he was basically playing the sims, and he hurt no real people. nice reddit spacing
Easton Edwards
He pirated their DNA
Landon Rodriguez
Cancerfu is cute
Alexander Wright
The point was that he was not a good guy for doing those things like they were setting you up to think at the start. He was just gutless and scared of conflict, from seeing how he acted in the game we can tell he’s a shitty guy on the inside. This is contrasted when his “asshole” partner sacrifices himself to save the rest. showing that just because your timid or assertive that doesn’t make you a good/bad person. It’s taking a shot at so called “nice guys” who think they’re good just because they’re afraid of consequences.
Caleb Jones
>How he acted in the game we can tell he's a shitty guy on the inside
So someone utilizing a tool that does no physical harm to anyone to act out in ways where no consequences have real effects makes them an asshole/shitty person?
So does this mean all women are cunts because they can literally go through life breaking law after law and only getting a slap on the wrist?
Dylan Martinez
>only a le nice guy would act like that in a simulated world It's a simulation, it's not real. Any type of person could and would do stuff they can't experience in real life. Assuming that your behavior in a sandbox setting where it doesn't count is what you would do in a setting where it does count is not warranted.
Logan Scott
He was a virgin weirdo
Jace Evans
I have no idea what op is talking about. I never made fun of this guy in my life.
Carson Jenkins
WOT IF HALF THE EPISODES ASKED THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT THE MORALITY OF EXPLOITING ARTIFICIAL CONSCIOUSNESS TO VARYING DEGREES THAT’D BE ROIGHT MENTAL
Alexander Reed
>seeing how he acted in the game we can tell he’s a shitty guy on the inside.
So watching how somebody plays a game can give you deep insight into who they are as a person?
Austin Phillips
Hard to take this premise seriously. Memories don't work that way. It's as asinine as the "use 100% of your brain" meme.
Christopher Jackson
considering the game was a consciousness upload like just about all the fucking episodes now cause goddamn they're so out of ideas its not even funny, and his personal shard was running on the corporate servers and had access to the main shard, he was likely copying their minds when they logged into the game (easy to make first-hand product familiarity a employment requirement for a GAME COMPANY) and he was just stealing the DNA to make real-to-life (minus junk) avatars for the copies.
But hey, stay triggered and stupid. seems to be working out for you.
Christopher Williams
Irrelevant. The ant doesn't care if the kid with the magnifying glass is aware of the harm he's causing or not.
considering half the episode is built around him torturing the copies until they break and become obedient, I take it you didn't even watch it.
Caleb Reed
What about the dating app episode? Everyone in there conceivably had sentience, but then they got exterminated every time a new match is made. Surely a virtual genocide on that scale, with an app with millions of users, should be considered worse than what he was doing?
Grayson Moore
Shit episode but man, that fetishbait. >dehumanization >sexual slavery >mindbreak >human furniture >choking >bimbofication >monsterification >castration >begging I was semi-hard for at least half the duration.
Anyone who doesn't think sentient AI are human and should be treated humanely are sociopaths.
Josiah Foster
Considering the guy's total lack of imagination, I say he deserved everything that happened to him. Godhood is a terrible thing to waste.
Daniel Martin
>but he deserves eternal damnation because he has a shitty social skills, right guys?
HE IS A WHITE MALE SHITLORD!
Hunter Brooks
if he really created sentient life then he is their god and should have the right to do whatever he wants to them, who would question a gods rule over his creation?
Parker Robinson
This is autism.
Hudson Sanchez
Removing all the fantasy and sci-fi layer, this guy would be the kind of worker who takes creepshot videos of his hot coworkers and jerks to them without their knowledge or consent. You can argue he isn't hurting anyone, but still, it ain't right
Christopher Rogers
>eternal damnation he'll be dead in a week, dumbass.
Carson Murphy
All he had to do was wait for the update to go live then enter the game and he would've had it easy
>purposefully missing the point of cookies for (you)'s
Adam Brooks
He is a petty sadist because he programmed the A.I. or whatever the fuck they are to feel pain and suffering and specifically makes them feel like shit all the time. But I still think that eternal damnation is a pretty hardcore punishment for anybody, especially him.
Joshua Long
His real body will, the AI version of him will probably die whenever his computer turns off
Bentley Perez
this gif has more depth than anything in black mirror
Levi Brown
This episode is utter rubbish. >hurr durr who's the real monster? >beta is a jerk online=consequences >normies jerk irl=yasss queen slay >super speshul stronk woman can hack harder than the other guy >system which connects to your brain to enter a game has no fail safe >hey you don't want to pay extra money for something you didn't order. What a prick!
>Future tech doesn't work that way Really makes me think.
Angel Brooks
But didn’t his program stop him from doung something like shoot up the school?
Leo Myers
uhm dont you remember when he stole her pussy? thats a red line!
Colton Williams
Asks me how I know you've never seen a vagina IRL...
Evan Flores
>there are people defending the episode in this thread
So if I were to take lets say 6 million AI's that are sentient and put them on a hard drive and throw it off a cliff would I have just committed a mass extermination? You all are fucking dumb comparing the ai's to actual humans.
Brody Williams
The six million.. no.. oh no!!
Grayson Watson
>pays pizza guy for pizza he didn't even order just to help the pizza guy out so he doesn't have to pay for the pizza out of his own wage
Do you actually have to do this if you work at pizza place?
Nathan Taylor
At a local place? Maybe. Chain pizza? The store takes the hit, you just lose gas and time.
Jackson Sanders
im just guessing but maybe the reason people dont like him is because he was torturing sentient lifeforms for fun.
Christopher Rodriguez
To things that don't exist. The whole clone shit was inserted because the writers realised at the last moment that the whole premise of the show "creepy guy being cruel to virtual constructs" isn't a story at all, considering the things aren't real. Hated this entire episode. We're basically back to nerd bashing now, except even sci-fi is in on it.
Christian Edwards
Why does it matter whether they exist? Why does he have to "deserve" his punishment? Can't the non-existent AI just be cool and act on its own like you'd expect in this situation? Why does it have to fit conditions that you prefer? Episode was just about fine as it was.
Adam Roberts
Ask me how I know your considering getting a fish dildo IRL
Gavin Rivera
That’s the point of the series. Taking seemingly innocuous things from our current society and seeing how the moral dilemmas they may present with a little advancement.
Kayden Reyes
Beef curtains detected. Women base their entire view on men if they are alphas. Alpha=good Beta=bad!
Nothing more to it.
Alexander Robinson
Yes. Aspies deserve to die
Jaxson Gutierrez
Your post doesn't exist.
Elijah Sullivan
>consciousness copies >current society
... ?
Jaxson Garcia
it's not a little advancement you stupid nigger it's literally post-singularity everything you think and know is gone-territory. humans will not exist anymore long before you can do what this guy could do
Oliver Gray
>what do you mean futuretech can't violate the laws of physics???
Anthony Diaz
always nice to see a post from an awakened AI.
Or is there just one of you?
Zachary Thomas
yeah, you would think that society is a bit more advanced considering.
the premise of the episode falls apart if you take the position that the AI do not have subjective experience of the universe and are just code. what is even the point of bringing this up? it's saying watching a superhero movie and then criticizing it by saying 'well people cant fly'
no shit, the point is to tell a story within a universe where the premise is true. the episode had problems but taking the consciousness uploads as sentient AI as is not really one of them. black mirror has done that the whole time.
Parker Gonzalez
Yeah, might as well say "Hey, I recognize that actor, HE MUST BE PLAYING A CHARACTER, NONE OF THIS IS REAL, MY LIFE IS A LIE"
Alexander Gomez
Actually yes, because his entire consciousness is in that virtual world. This isn’t some “Press X to not die” game, this is an entire reality he’s projected himself into.
>Took pleasure out of torturing sentient beings What do you think the majority of Sup Forums posting is?
Samuel Cox
epigenetics is simply the last ditch hail mary of the geneticists to claim everything is genetic.
Landon Sanchez
idiots seeking validation via imagined response?
Christian Sanders
that's just the fucking internet you retard
Gabriel Gray
oh no the horror of being called a faggot
Noah Thomas
only since the barrier for entry was lowered sufficiently to allow the iphone generation access.
Thomas Ross
>a series of 1s and 0s has a conscience and deserves equal rights as a human being
"No!"
Caleb Williams
you've got a point but it was really just a higher brow version of today's internet really
we're all the same, most people are morons though
Grayson Allen
>the human brain is nothing but an electrochemical computer >what you think of as "you" is nothing but software running on that electrochemical computer >??? >therefore conscious, aware AI is impossible
You seem to be skipping a few steps in your "logic."
Cameron Williams
>i'm a moron therefore everyone is a moron
uh huh.
Adam Hill
>a pile of neurons has a conscience and deserves equal rights as a human being
>"No!"
Michael Anderson
>a series of As,Ts,Cs,Gs, has a conscience and deserves equal rights as a human being
"No!"
Jordan Cruz
>it's a triggered incels pretend the entire point of the episode isn't that he is making exact copies of his colleagues to abuse them thread
the real meme is that with the technology to perfectly clone anyone from their DNA in a VR sim he could take over the fucking world never mind fix all his personal problems in life
Thomas White
why would you want to fix your problems when you're given godhood?
Jose Campbell
haha, that you would unironically post that given the context is pretty funny
Ethan Sullivan
Remember when Star Trek already did this exact premise 30 years ago, except it was solved with love and understanding and resulted in the characters becoming better people?
Ryan Lee
Yes.
He had a kino rape simulator complete with a blue bitch and didn't take advantage of it. Faggot deserved what he got.
Now if he wasn't a fag, then no he wouldn't deserve death but it would be a what do you expect ending when dicking around with people and untested software.
Logan Ross
>Be the top dog in your own company >Let your dipshit friend bully you >Indulge in autistic fantasies in vidya Escapism was a mistake.
Though really the biggest problem I had is the memory thing. That's not how DNA works.
Samuel Bell
Yeah, he was so autistic he didn't even try to fuck his waifus. Scratch that. He didn't even make other, cooler waifus and fuck them.
Ryder Sullivan
why are there vr machines that put you in a coma and if you lose your digital remote control youre stuck in a coma forever and no one thought this was a bad idea
Samuel Harris
Its already outlined in the show he had a hyper advanced vr rig. It can be assumed that nothing like it was out on the market.
Christian Wright
>people are already doing what he did in Sims If that kind of tech becomes possible you can bet your ass that this would happen.
Isaac Martinez
His rig was standard for the game. The issue is he modded his game, and once all the mods were deleted (including his custom voice commands) he had no way out.
