/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons

Isaac Powell
Isaac Powell

Destroyer Edition

Upcoming Releases:

http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

Out This Week:
Canto Bight (Tue 5)
Darth Vader #9 (Wed 6)

Star Wars Rebels Season 4 Trailer 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtigV-biVGg

Rebels Recon: Rebel Assault
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXt9ZmN-V-k

Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CbN8sfihY

STAR WARS: Battlefront II – The Movie (2017)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geqUtEjdREc

Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

Star Wars: Forces of Destiny
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpSnlSGciSWNBXSxZZrsvWdnoGsLCr6WL

Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing

All urls found in this thread:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtigV-biVGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXt9ZmN-V-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CbN8sfihY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geqUtEjdREc
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpSnlSGciSWNBXSxZZrsvWdnoGsLCr6WL
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2GecyOP6rA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOscWqEw4mY
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/7i14ge/japan_special_screening_first_1015_minutes_of_tlj/
https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/features/star-wars-the-last-jedi-14-things-we-learned-w513392
http://www14.zippyshare.com/v/zHUWhZLu/file.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YyBtMxZgQs
https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/12/new-parade-article-teases-details-on-lightsabers-in-the-sequel-trilogy.html)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhZ0XzSkdqo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYG2GLV9YVg
https://streamable.com/gxw8i
https://youtu.be/-Z0S0Z8lUTg
http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/ea-may-not-bring-loot-boxes-back-to-battlefront-ii-w513439
https://youtu.be/f9Ys_4snP4Q
Jacob Mitchell
Jacob Mitchell

looks like it's smiling from this angle

Henry Roberts
Henry Roberts

Hail Mandalore!

Colton Sanders
Colton Sanders

I'd be smiling too if I looked that good

Nathan Carter
Nathan Carter

Star Destroyers never looked sexier.

Jonathan Murphy
Jonathan Murphy

Are Star Destroyers comfy

Nolan Wilson
Nolan Wilson

I want to marry and impregnate Sabine

Juan Lopez
Juan Lopez

Chad Destroyer

Nicholas Gray
Nicholas Gray

DARKSABERED

Bentley Edwards
Bentley Edwards

For some reason the Rogue One ISD's waist trench goes from parallel to broadening open. I don't recall if this was a unique modeling error aspect of the original ANH model, even though all other representations of the ISD have it remain parallel from bow to stern.

Christopher Garcia
Christopher Garcia

pedo, just go find an asain boy if you want sabine

Ethan White
Ethan White

Does Sup Forums make fake fan trailers as well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2GecyOP6rA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOscWqEw4mY

Leo Morgan
Leo Morgan

pedo
She's like 20 in season 4

Liam Reyes
Liam Reyes

Want to hear a joke? What do Sabine and the surface of Mandalore have in common? They are both flat!

Jose Kelly
Jose Kelly

what ever makes you feel better bro
shes legal now, like i didnt fap to her before she was

Nolan Reyes
Nolan Reyes

the virgin executor

vs

THE MON CHADAMARI STAR CRUISER

Joshua Wood
Joshua Wood

Japan thing detailed on reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/7i14ge/japan_special_screening_first_1015_minutes_of_tlj/

Benjamin Lopez
Benjamin Lopez

Anyone else kind of wish Lucas would have just let the OT age with dignity? Star Wars was a product of the 70's, but now it has CGI. It's like seeing an old lady with a facelift.

James Johnson
James Johnson

It takes me out of it whenever I watch the blu ray version, but it's not too distracting
Also I downloaded the silver screen edition

Ryder Campbell
Ryder Campbell

no crawl or title screen
Dropped.

John Morales
John Morales

are we ever getting the canon comic books and novels back anons?

Evan Morales
Evan Morales

I'm hoping it's just a thing for the screening.
Otherwise, what a disgrace.

Robert Perry
Robert Perry

I'll make one. Might need some help with some of the novels though.

Mason Smith
Mason Smith

bless you user!

Oliver Bennett
Oliver Bennett

Well..it wasnt like Empire Strikes Back.

Seriously, fuck this shit.

Mason Hill
Mason Hill

However, Rian himself asked us not to give out the deets, so I want to respect that.
STARWARSLEAKS
What a fucking faggot cuck. So his post was just for attention; typical numale baka
It's like that guy who found a Starcraft master disc and returned it to Blizzard for just a trip to Blizzcon and other shitty gamer paraphernalia

Brayden Lewis
Brayden Lewis

Cute asian confirmed for dead

Jayden Taylor
Jayden Taylor

My waifu

Benjamin Morris
Benjamin Morris

time to go dark

Thomas Nguyen
Thomas Nguyen

I don't even know who she is. Why is she important?

Jaxson Jackson
Jaxson Jackson

She's the fat asian's sister, apparently

Jonathan Wilson
Jonathan Wilson

Rose's sister. Guessing her death has a big impact on her character.

Ryder Hill
Ryder Hill

https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/features/star-wars-the-last-jedi-14-things-we-learned-w513392

Daisy Ridley cried with joy when she found out that JJ was returning for IX
Whoa

Parker Nelson
Parker Nelson

-There is a bit of unexpected humor in it. It's basically the Star Wars equivalent of a "your mom" joke at another character's expense. I found it entertaining, but I'm sure some will think it was a bit out of place, given the seriousness of all the action surrounding it.

YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THE QUIPS
NOT JOIN THEM

Julian Walker
Julian Walker

The emotional and deeply-rooted resonance of 'I am your father' [in The Empire Strikes Back] is why we remember it. Not because, 'Oh my god, I never would have guess that he was.'
True.

Blake Roberts
Blake Roberts

I can only hope it's Rey trying to insult Kylo, only for it to backfire and be about Leia.

Juan Cooper
Juan Cooper

Kylo doesn't appear in the opening.

Dylan Smith
Dylan Smith

It will probably take me a few hours to upload everything but I'll post a link when I'm done.

Dylan Clark
Dylan Clark

My work broke street date on the TLJ Visual Dictionary. Fuuuuuck Crait is going to be so cool.

Jayden Ramirez
Jayden Ramirez

no pictures
sure jan

Carson Ortiz
Carson Ortiz

favor us with a dump?

Justin Hill
Justin Hill

laser axe

Easton Allen
Easton Allen

Okay this might be a sign to go dark, yeah?

Joshua Reyes
Joshua Reyes

just hit the word count in this comment and accidentally deleted it right before posting it
FUCK, attempt #2

/co/thread/97316117#p97324845
Did you make C'Boath a crazy Dooku clone? That's what I would do.
nah I got rid of all the clone shit, it overcomplicates things and the script is already super dense as is. He's just "Jorus", and his role in the film is kinda like if Yoda in ESB was revealed to be the villain. That really oversimplifies it but it's hard to explain how I wrote his character without going into the story as a whole.

/co/thread/97316117#p97324873
I'd be interested in reading that, so feel free to share when you're done!
Ah, thanks man. I just checked the documents and I started writing it just after Christmas last year. So far I've written at least 115 pages of just notes/ideas and outlines alone, but by the time I start writing the screenplay itself it'll be a breeze.

I also just found a poster I made a while back using some fan poster for TLJ. Pretty sure I just changed the coloring in Photoshop and made a logo, can't really remember tbqh. But yeah hopefully I'll finish the script and be able to post it soon. pls no bully

Joseph James
Joseph James

Working at the moment. I’ll try to take some pictures when I go on break soon. Promise.

Alexander Bennett
Alexander Bennett

I take back my contempt for you. Nice.

Nathan Gonzalez
Nathan Gonzalez

the 10 minutes shown in Mexico (probably the same footage?) was like it. We've known it has a crawl since the title was announced, Rian posted a picture of the title and episode number in the crawl from the editing room.
I'd have no problem with the Special Editions if Lucas didn't insist on replacing the original versions with them. I think that's what most other people who want the theatricals to be released feel too. I like some of the changes, especially Victory Celebration replacing Yub Nub, but overall the changes just detract from the quality of the movies. I don't know why he just didn't do what Peter Jackson did for the Theatrical Editions and Extended Editions of The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. Release them both. Shit, fucking Blade Runner has been changed by Ridley Scott more times than Lucas changed Star Wars but you can get every single version in one small box set.

Michael Jackson
Michael Jackson

I like the special editions because the Outrider was in them

Jose Gray
Jose Gray

oh I forgot, the original comment I wrote right before the thread ended:

/co/thread/97316117#p97324573
sweet! can't wait to read it, man. I've also been writing a Star Wars script to give me something to do in my spare time/a way to deal with my depression. It's a very loose Thrawn Trilogy adaptation that could feasibly work between Jedi and TFA. But it's also kinda an original story too, so it's hard to call it an adaptation when I've changed a lot and also created a mostly new story, but still kept a lot of the important parts in the books condensed into 1 film.

Maybe I'll post it here when I finish it eventually.

Hudson Rivera
Hudson Rivera

rey is a female jango fett clone

Brody Bell
Brody Bell

POST SNOKE, LUKE'S JEDI ORDER, AND ACH-TO PLEASE DEAR GOD

IN FACT IF POSSIBLE POST PICS OF EVERY PAGE WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT SCANS AS LONG AS WE GET THE PAGES THEMSELVES OTHERWISE IT WILL TAKE HALF A YEAR BEFORE WE GET A SCAN

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE I WILL SUCK YOUR DICK AND TICKLE YOUR ASSHOLE FOR THIS

Wyatt Robinson
Wyatt Robinson

FUCK THE VISUAL DICTIONARY GIVE US THE INCREDIBLE CROSS SECTIONS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD I NEED THOSE VEHICLES

Daniel Martin
Daniel Martin

That better not be a silver lightsaber blade.

Nathan Richardson
Nathan Richardson

You will never see badass troopers doing shit like THIS in Star Wars ever again.

Leo Morgan
Leo Morgan

Yeeeeeeah, it's time to jet. See you late night Dec 14th, /swco/.

Colton Gray
Colton Gray

DUMP IT

Ryan Murphy
Ryan Murphy

Is Rey holding a white saber or does the color just look weird in this pic?

Owen Carter
Owen Carter

It's blue. The picture is just under a shadow.

Aiden White
Aiden White

I am so glad the B-wing aesthetic is getting some love in the ST.

Adrian Gray
Adrian Gray

Please find anything involving Luke and Kylo Ren first. The Force plot probably has the juiciest stuff.

Bentley Watson
Bentley Watson

Same. I'm out. Hope you guys enjoy the movie.

Samuel Bell
Samuel Bell

bye swco
see u in january

Jacob Sullivan
Jacob Sullivan

I’ll post the first two pages

Colton Hughes
Colton Hughes

Please and thank you, I love these books

Hudson Hall
Hudson Hall

J.J. killed the New Republic before we even got to see it? Goddammit.

Aiden Walker
Aiden Walker

Get to the good stuff, sir. Please?

Samuel Phillips
Samuel Phillips

My dick

Tyler Kelly
Tyler Kelly

new map

Josiah Wilson
Josiah Wilson

I love these ship designs.

Gavin Torres
Gavin Torres

Holy fuck thanks. Please post anything on Snoke, Luke's Jedi, and Ach-To.

Mason Martin
Mason Martin

Nebulon-C

oh baby

Thomas Fisher
Thomas Fisher

I’ll post the Kylo and Snoke stuff next. Trying to work and take these at the same time without getting yelled at is a challenge

Isaiah Morgan
Isaiah Morgan

yo could you do us a solid for those trying to avoid major spoilers but still curious about minor things by saying in the comment what the spoilered pic is generally about (ie: Snoke, Crait, ships, etc.) and maybe even if it's a major or minor spoiler

Cameron Kelly
Cameron Kelly

FUCKING BASED TARGET user

Zachary Barnes
Zachary Barnes

Good to see that the Resistance Trooper outfit looks less retarded.

In TFA they looked like Diamondback's super suit.

David Ortiz
David Ortiz

Great, Disney shoving blacks on us again

Justin Reed
Justin Reed

Thanks visual dictionary user

Thomas Gomez
Thomas Gomez

Hey I legit didn’t think of that. Sorry guys.

This one is about the Praetorian Guard

Josiah Reed
Josiah Reed

HOLY FUCK THOSE SNOKE DETAILS
SNOKE HAS A RARE DISEASE ALL LEAKS CONFIRMED BULLSHIT

Ayden Anderson
Ayden Anderson

That attendant
I like it.

Andrew Walker
Andrew Walker

HOLEEE FUCCK

Nicholas Smith
Nicholas Smith

did the Force Awakens Visual Dictionary have any spoilers? Would this one?

Angel Green
Angel Green

Bruh. Life working for Spot is well.

This one is Poe Dameron.

Josiah Kelly
Josiah Kelly

God, I love visual dictionaries. They are perfect for lorefags like me.

Justin Green
Justin Green

Sword-whip guy better get a good fight.

Adam Ward
Adam Ward

TARIS KASI IS CANON AGAIN AS SHIT

Nathaniel Hughes
Nathaniel Hughes

PLAGUEIS CONFIRMED AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Jordan Thomas
Jordan Thomas

Resistance Fleet Command

Thomas Peterson
Thomas Peterson

Post Rey. Can we end the parentage debate for good?

Leo Ortiz
Leo Ortiz

Visual Dictionary got put out early and we got it
Fuck this shit im out

Zachary Ross
Zachary Ross

Finn. Will get Luke and Ach-To stuff soon. Have to take more pictures

Justin Gray
Justin Gray

BLACKED ONE
Poe x Finn confirmed

Camden Miller
Camden Miller

Alright, so far it hasn't spoiled anything we don't know, and the most it has done thus far has been confirming "leaks" to be bullshit (although that is hardly news, yeah?)

Dominic Wood
Dominic Wood

Leia

Brayden Hernandez
Brayden Hernandez

Great, Disney shoving fishes on us again

Dylan Allen
Dylan Allen

I don't think it really did, other than things people had long since guessed. Can anyone confirm, though?

Hunter Cruz
Hunter Cruz

Snoke is officially not Plageuis
FANBOYS
B
T
F
O

Jace Brown
Jace Brown

She still has a coke nail

Brayden Barnes
Brayden Barnes

He's officially not been Plagueis for a while now. No amount of confirmation will stop these people.

Luke Gutierrez
Luke Gutierrez

he hasn't heard about the toxicology report

Isaiah Miller
Isaiah Miller

Plagueis is also shown to still be Muun
Snoke's species is revealed as definitely not muun in case it wasn't already obvious, and his entire biography is published, with no correlation whatsoever with Plagueis' life
"It's not literal, he leaped bodies! And built a new life! You'll see!"

Oliver James
Oliver James

I like that blaster design.

Christopher Perez
Christopher Perez

Not till episode 9 boychik.

Thomas Murphy
Thomas Murphy

They're just fucking remaking ESB aren't they?

Jedi Padawan off training with old teacher whose made mistakes and is hesitant to train them?
Rebellion on the run making a stand on a desolate world to fight off the bad guys long enough to survive to the next movie?

Can Disney, just for one second, manage to make anything original?

Isaac Mitchell
Isaac Mitchell

So snoke is just a shit character?

Camden Williams
Camden Williams

isnt that the standard blaster for First Order Officers in BF2

Kevin Brown
Kevin Brown

Luke confronts Snoke
"It's over, Snoke!"
"Fool! Snoke is the name the galaxy knows, but that is not the name of my true self... tremble before me, for I am DARTH PLAGUEIS!"
"...Who?"

Angel Johnson
Angel Johnson

go full cgi'd ? thank god

Alexander Perez
Alexander Perez

"At times, I'd say to Rian, 'We gotta think of what the audience wants,'" Hamill says. "And he'd say, 'No, we've gotta think of what we want.' Which is a learning process for me."

Post yfw Rian Johnson is confirmed the third coming of George Lucas

Ryan King
Ryan King

Vice Admiral Holdo

David Phillips
David Phillips

So spoonfeed me. What is Star Wars "Legends" is it just a collection of old star wars comics that Marvel is doing?

Noah Richardson
Noah Richardson

Resistance officers, and yes it also appears in TFA and the Poe comics

Isaiah Cox
Isaiah Cox

There's an official t-shirt where she is wielding a red saber. Probably to match the red robe theme on some of the teaser posters/red crystals.

Jack Nguyen
Jack Nguyen

Ach-To Temple Island

Jaxon Diaz
Jaxon Diaz

Lucasfilm, not Disney.

Blake Parker
Blake Parker

force sloth btfo

Sebastian Lee
Sebastian Lee

"Legends" is all non-canon material published before (and in a few cases after) the canon purge of April 12, 2014. Legends contains the entire Expanded Universe.

Ryan Brown
Ryan Brown

Luke Part 1

David Williams
David Williams

Force tree btfo

Jonathan Butler
Jonathan Butler

Same difference. Lucasfilm might be writing it, but it's Disney telling them not to take any risks.

Jaxon Campbell
Jaxon Campbell

The basis of this conflict isn't believable.

Yes, we destroyed their fleets. Now our PALTRY forces are the only ones in the galaxy...except for those surviving resistance fighters...and the fact everyone of the fledgling republic can just put resources on an unknown scope and scale unmatchable by us into fleet production means nothing...we've totally won this...wait..............wait......fuck

Kayden Fisher
Kayden Fisher

Okay stay with me,

Ahsoka has kids, but they are the next incarnations of light and darkness, essentially reincarnations of The Son and The Daughter

the boy is light and the girl is darkness.

There is some undertones of some kind of incestuous subtext between thetwo.

Dylan Thompson
Dylan Thompson

Luke Part 2

Owen Scott
Owen Scott

Stannis?

Logan Cooper
Logan Cooper

mortis reference

Julian Clark
Julian Clark

leaks fags BTFO

Zachary Turner
Zachary Turner

"Force sloth" was just an unimportant Ahch-To equivalent of a manatee
"Force tree" was just a regular old tree

Leaks btfo.

Benjamin Ross
Benjamin Ross

compass
battlefront 2 now on sale guys!

Henry Nelson
Henry Nelson

the necklace

Jacob Miller
Jacob Miller

So far, no major spoilers.
I think I'm safe for now.

Carter Reed
Carter Reed

Luke is spearfishing, but does he use a half kilometer long spear, like the old days?

Joseph Baker
Joseph Baker

Rey

Dylan King
Dylan King

okay, makes sense

Owen Russell
Owen Russell

what are the details towards the middle of the page detailing snokes deformities?

Thomas Nelson
Thomas Nelson

Novelization delayed until March because Rian didn't want it to come out early and have spoilers out

makes me think the Visual Dictionary won't spoil anything. There was an interview with Rian yesterday? I think where he said he's been following spoiler discusison places online for fun and that no one knows any of the "major spoilers" yet. And I read somewhere else that apparently the marketing is super misleading and we don't know shit about the last third of the movie.
mfw 10 days till release and we know as much as we did 10 months ago
mfw in May 2015 we knew literally the entire plot to The Force Awakens

I always give into temptation for spoilers but I feel like we've been given such a big opportunity with The Last Jedi still being secretive this close to the release date, fuck I gotta just force myself to not give into temptation

Brayden Cooper
Brayden Cooper

Ach-To nuns

John Perez
John Perez

The resistance uniform looks slick

Jeremiah Evans
Jeremiah Evans

These things are so quaint, I fucking love them already.

Bentley Mitchell
Bentley Mitchell

snokes ring is from under darth vaders castle, what the fuck is that suppose to mean?

Christian James
Christian James

makes me think the Visual Dictionary won't spoil anything
So far there hasn't been anything too spoilery in there.

Tyler Jackson
Tyler Jackson

these guys are more adorable than porgs, doubly so because they're intelligent people, like ewoks

William Long
William Long

TERAS KASI

ARDEN LYN SOON

Jeremiah Cruz
Jeremiah Cruz

millennium falcon escape pods
Why would they show us this? The only explanation would be if something were to happen to th-

Hudson Watson
Hudson Watson

They seem like a cute little race of fishermen and navy wives. It's adorable.

Cameron Torres
Cameron Torres

Canto Bight

Jaxon Evans
Jaxon Evans

Millennium Falcon Escape Pod
WHY IS THAT ON REY'S PAGE
WHY DO I FEEL LIKE SUCH A MUNDANE THING IS ACTUALLY A SPOILER

Carson Morales
Carson Morales

OT FAGS BTFO

Liam Reed
Liam Reed

oh no

Josiah Gutierrez
Josiah Gutierrez

Canto Bight cops

Blake James
Blake James

happy about the possible destruction of an icon
What's wrong with you, man?
Not even an OT fag, but still, it's gotta tear you up a little

Brody Rogers
Brody Rogers

I know its great, I love shit like that about Star Wars, its so comfy

actually Millenium Falcon having escape pods dates back to the ANH novelization, and appeared frequently throughout the EU, and keep showing up in Cross Sections technical data about it. For all we know, it's just how they get rid of the porg on board.

Ethan Long
Ethan Long

Casino

Justin Parker
Justin Parker

THAT'S what Kedpin looks like? Oh my god he's so goofy.

Parker Peterson
Parker Peterson

D'Acy is cute.

Jayden Gonzalez
Jayden Gonzalez

Casino guests

Liam Butler
Liam Butler

I feel like that gambling machine looks like BB-8 for a reason, maybe I'm just reading too much into it

Logan Morales
Logan Morales

DJ

Caleb Baker
Caleb Baker

"It's not literal, he leaped bodies! And built a new life! You'll see!"
Actually that makes some sense. He could heal others and save them from death but not himself...so in other words he could create and change organic life. He literally made a body and it's very shitty since he had never made a whole body before and transplanted himself into it...

Daniel Sanchez
Daniel Sanchez

JUSTIN THEROUX IN THE HOUSE

Kevin Watson
Kevin Watson

oh my god

Nathaniel King
Nathaniel King

Well, now we know what DJ stands for I guess.

Dominic Ortiz
Dominic Ortiz

Fathiers from the Legends of Luke Skywalker book

Ayden Lewis
Ayden Lewis

DJ confirmed to be Satan.

Isaiah Fisher
Isaiah Fisher

We've known it since September

Daniel Sullivan
Daniel Sullivan

it's lame innit

Thomas Garcia
Thomas Garcia

Best new character gets devil trips

Sebastian Bailey
Sebastian Bailey

Phasma

Dominic Moore
Dominic Moore

Logan's Run?

Samuel Brooks
Samuel Brooks

Mortis confirmed real lol

Connor Collins
Connor Collins

Stormtroopers

Cameron Sanders
Cameron Sanders

no screenshots other than what's in the trailers
I guess she doesn't have much screen time

Jeremiah Cook
Jeremiah Cook

It's been confirmed to be an actual location for years, dude

Easton Davis
Easton Davis

I'm surprised by how spoiler-free this visual dictionary is. It's got a few spoilers but it seems to leave the biggest details out.

Gabriel Russell
Gabriel Russell

Crait

Parker Gutierrez
Parker Gutierrez

TFA one was like this, too

David Wilson
David Wilson

/co/thread/97316117#p97316738
lmao

Jose Ward
Jose Ward

Honestly, if my memory serves correctly, they've never been too spoiler heavy. Even as a kid reading the prequel ones, they generally didn't spoil much (from what I remember, correct me if I am mistaken)

Jaxson Morris
Jaxson Morris

First Order Ground Forces

Jack Turner
Jack Turner

thank you so much for all of these

Sebastian Thomas
Sebastian Thomas

dude i'm actually hyped for this movie now

Henry Jones
Henry Jones

you will never get to lick captain phasmas boots

Jordan Brown
Jordan Brown

The ROTS one was pretty spoiler-heavy, though I guess it was mainly stuff already implied by trailer or things we kind of knew were a given, like Anakin betraying the Jedi.

Joshua Myers
Joshua Myers

Ubialla is hot as fuck

Andrew Ramirez
Andrew Ramirez

Kylo and Rey wear the same exact arm wraps

They fucking related, how more obvious is it going to get?

Colton King
Colton King

Riva Rosetta

SUBTLE

Carter Russell
Carter Russell

I do wonder what they're setting up with respect to Luke. I'm guessing his arc will consist of embracing Jedi-dom again after being mopey or something in that vein, but who knows.

That and Kylo's development are the only hooks the trilogy has. Snoke is mysterious but I don't think any answer they can give regarding his origins and powers will be satisfying or convincing.

Connor Miller
Connor Miller

Resistance Ground Forces

No problem, guys. I work at a Target in the middle of Virginia and one of our seasonal guys just left this on one of the book displays. Figured I get something out of this job

Jace Parker
Jace Parker

The big revelation here is that he actually knew nothing about what was going on in the galaxy. He must only find out through Rey. That goes against most peoples' assumption that he knew but didn't leave anyways.

Wyatt Long
Wyatt Long

From the sounds of it, I don't even think they'll go into much of who Snoke is.

Anthony Lewis
Anthony Lewis

I don't get it.

Sebastian White
Sebastian White

They fucking related, how more obvious is it going to get?

nah, they're not related. they're gonna get together.

Evan Ramirez
Evan Ramirez

Saile Minnau
Well that's a name I never thought I'd see again, he must be descended from one of Teckla's dirty children

Nathaniel Gonzalez
Nathaniel Gonzalez

Ew it DOES drip of prequel goo like we were warned

Gabriel Gray
Gabriel Gray

fuck.
yes.

veers is so fucking classy

Charles Sanders
Charles Sanders

Keep in mind how little we were told about the Emperor in the OT itself.

Wyatt Allen
Wyatt Allen

So that's what that Lego thing is? A cannon walker?

Chase Morris
Chase Morris

Dark side cave on Ahch-To

Oh boy here come the ESB comparisons.

Carson Johnson
Carson Johnson

It's not supposed to be released until the 15th.

Someone at your Target fucked up big time lol

Kayden Edwards
Kayden Edwards

Rose

Charles Martin
Charles Martin

I love that the AT-AT is still around

yes, i know we've known this, but I still feel like I should spoiler it

Andrew Martinez
Andrew Martinez

Justin reminding me heavily of Freddie Prinze Jr

Zachary Ramirez
Zachary Ramirez

So are you legitimately posting every single page? If so then god bless you based Target user.

Luke Martin
Luke Martin

The Supremacy

Nicholas Diaz
Nicholas Diaz

Someone somewhere is aroused by this and has already masturbated to this

Search your feelings, you know it to be true

Isaiah Brooks
Isaiah Brooks

Is there an .epub of the canto bight novel available?

Ryan Rodriguez
Ryan Rodriguez

Yee

First Order Fleet

Noah Jenkins
Noah Jenkins

bottom right
Hey it looks like they resurrected Seventh Sister, I'm sure SSfags will be pleased

Jacob Martin
Jacob Martin

engorged egg sack

Isaiah White
Isaiah White

it means that snoke's ring came from under darth vader's castle

Jordan Williams
Jordan Williams

Phasma and Hux
I ship them now

Luke Hall
Luke Hall

http://www14.zippyshare.com/v/zHUWhZLu/file.html

Levi Moore
Levi Moore

The difference is Snoke exists in a sequel. We didn't need the Emperor's origins because the character was a foundation of the story, given from the start (more or less). It didn't really matter. Part of being an effective sequel is bridging where the story left off and where it is now. Sequels generally have a burden of continuity.

The origins of his ring are interesting, though. Maybe Snoke is just the president of the Darth Vader fanclub after all.

Lincoln Nguyen
Lincoln Nguyen

Resistance Startighters

Josiah Ward
Josiah Ward

Maybe Snoke is just the president of the Darth Vader fanclub after all.
Oh I don't think so

Jaxson Evans
Jaxson Evans

Where's his lightsaber dammit

Joseph Williams
Joseph Williams

I think it's also important to note what sets him apart. When we meet the Emperor in ROTJ we know he's a master of the dark side, Vader's boss and leader of the Empire.

When we meet Snoke he's basically just Palpatine 2, which automatically makes one think "well okay, what makes this guy different?"

Isaiah Thomas
Isaiah Thomas

not in the film

Asher Ward
Asher Ward

ya blew it

also did you see the Incredible Cross Sections book or just the visual dictionary

Bentley Cruz
Bentley Cruz

Maybe they're trying not to spoil it?
R-right, guys?

Jayden Johnson
Jayden Johnson

Forgot page

Landon Scott
Landon Scott

People argued otherwise for years, dude

Jonathan Wilson
Jonathan Wilson

Snoke-is-Plagueis-tier tomfoolery, pay it no mind.

Mason Myers
Mason Myers

tubbs
wew

Jack Turner
Jack Turner

Tubbs

Porkins 2.0?

Levi Ramirez
Levi Ramirez

TALLIE IS MY WAIFU

I HAVE CLAIMED HER

Caleb Bell
Caleb Bell

oddy muva reference

Easton Bennett
Easton Bennett

Hidden inside R2.

Wyatt Thomas
Wyatt Thomas

Resistance Bombers

Isaiah Edwards
Isaiah Edwards

T-85s ded... NOOOOOOO

Tyler Walker
Tyler Walker

It's Rosie the Riveter you utter tard.

Grayson Jones
Grayson Jones

your waifu is dead already user

Luis Russell
Luis Russell

see no mention of Paige's death
Yeah, we're not getting spoiled tonight.

Christopher Rogers
Christopher Rogers

LIAR

Mason Foster
Mason Foster

And last but not least, Resistance Droids

Luke Cook
Luke Cook

So it looks obvious that Rey and Kylo are some kind of reincarnations of the prime Jedi. And Kylo turns on Snoke, helps Rey fight the guards, and then asks her to rule the galaxy with him when he reaches out to her. That's a callback for sure.

Jose Rogers
Jose Rogers

when you kill squid man but it's okay because you have a clone of him for the next movie

Lincoln Allen
Lincoln Allen

wow wtf FFG, I thought it was called a B/SF-17

Sebastian Cooper
Sebastian Cooper

No Hux page?

Adrian Jones
Adrian Jones

Is that the whole book?

Thanks, user, you're a bro.

Austin Allen
Austin Allen

He was filmed using one on Ach-To though

Joshua Lopez
Joshua Lopez

Worry lines publicly display private doubts

Wyatt Sullivan
Wyatt Sullivan

Officer rank cylinder

Carson Ross
Carson Ross

For anyone avoiding clicking these for spoilers: don't worry, you're safe. If you want to go into the movie 100% blind you should skip them but they're not going to ruin anything major for you. It's mostly just cool backstory.

Kevin Carter
Kevin Carter

Thanks to the user for posting the visual dictionary, but am I the only one that's a little worried?
It really, REALLY seems to be hitting all the same notes as ESB.

Austin Moore
Austin Moore

The bit about Rey encountering disturbing visions in a cave shrouded in the dark side set off some serious alarm bells for me in that regard. We'll have to wait and see though.

Nathan Bennett
Nathan Bennett

Tubb's children's wrote their names on his helmet

god dammit now I'm gonna spend the whole movie stressed out that he's gonna die

John Turner
John Turner

I want to fuck him

Logan Flores
Logan Flores

T-85s?
Do we have any art of these?

Also
Tubbs
fat
RIP Porkins 2.0

Isaiah Turner
Isaiah Turner

w-where's Chopper?

Kayden Murphy
Kayden Murphy

The Force Bond thing between Rey and Kylo is pretty new territory within the movies, so there's a big difference already. This is all sounding very Revan and Bastila no matter how Pablo denies it.

Henry Green
Henry Green

Rian said that the film has some similarities by nature of the storytelling but he doesn't think people will walk out of it thinking it was similar to ESB. I trust him.

Caleb Lee
Caleb Lee

So I'm tempted to speculate the codebreaker's identity

He's a motherfucking Fel

Jackson Butler
Jackson Butler

Someone is losing their fucking job if they find you bruh
thank you

Christian Ramirez
Christian Ramirez

In the trash where he belongs

Ayden Wright
Ayden Wright

No, it's not.

It sounds exactly like Jacen and Jaina though.

Dominic Morris
Dominic Morris

speaking of, can we forget to see space alladin around right?

Brayden Ortiz
Brayden Ortiz

rebel traitor alerts SCAR Squad to the base.

oh fuck i cant wait for that comic

Cameron Morris
Cameron Morris

what the fuck good would a blaster that could fit in a cufflink do?

even rea pistols that size are glorified bb guns

Levi Campbell
Levi Campbell

*sad beep*

Eli Murphy
Eli Murphy

no art of the T-85s as yet.

Jordan Sanders
Jordan Sanders

DID THE GUY SEE A TLJ INCREDIBLE CROSS SECTIONS BOOK ANYWHERE OR WAS IT JUST THE VISUAL DICTIONARY

Adam Carter
Adam Carter

I like this aesthetic. I like this aesthetic a lot.
It feels Star Wars

Luke Morgan
Luke Morgan

People have argued whether the events are literal. The very episode where Mortis premiered gave a location with specific coordinates- Rex arrived there at the same time Anakin and company did, but he saw neither Mortis nor them.

Carson Morales
Carson Morales

We're not going to get it

Logan Cox
Logan Cox

PZ is THICC, waifu claimed

Nathan Perez
Nathan Perez

Tagge

Dominic Ortiz
Dominic Ortiz

Where's the Mortis reference?

Michael Bailey
Michael Bailey

you have to read, burger

Henry Foster
Henry Foster

Please god let NuLuke have actually killed some other darksider and not just taken that crystal from Vaders.

Isaac Bennett
Isaac Bennett

It's obviously taken by the ancient jedi crusader thousands of years before any of this, when the pendant was made, it's an artifact recovered by Luke, he didn't make it himself

Nicholas Reyes
Nicholas Reyes

Right in the Exile Interrupted section

Sebastian Jones
Sebastian Jones

Reading this I can see why Hamil disagreed with the direction especially (but not necessarily) if he liked how EuLuke went.

Gabriel Garcia
Gabriel Garcia

So, here are the most interesting bits of information I gathered.

Snoke is not a Sith and the Sith explicitly died with Sidious and Vader - the prophecy was correct in that the Sith would be destroyed, but the prophecy said nothing about darkness being destroyed.
Snoke is very frail and deformed, possibly dying.
Ahch-To is as strong in the Force as Dagobah and Mortis.
Luke wanted Leia to be his first Jedi apprentice but she didn't want to do it.
Luke purposely distanced himself from the Force after Kylo Ren killed the Jedi Order and didn't know about Han's death or the destruction of Hosnian Prime.

What did I miss?

Austin Phillips
Austin Phillips

God they better not circumvent the last jedi thing with a "Well see they officially left the order before so they aren't Jedi lmao"

Aaron Smith
Aaron Smith

Kanan's fate is probably to die for Lothal.

And Ezra himself isn't an actual Jedi and even said as much himself.

Dylan Parker
Dylan Parker

I asked about the joke and it's a case of Poe taunting Hux (who he calls "Hugs", like Han called Snoke "Smoke" in a deleted scene for TFA) to stall for time while the Resistance prepares an escape.

The "your mom" joke is something along the lines of Poe saying "General Organa has an urgent message for you - it's about your mother." The punchline, if you've paid attention to the lore, makes sense: Hux is a bastard child.

From the sound of things, this movie goes to some pretty fucking dark places. I'll be fine with the quip as long as it works (which, from what I've gathered, the joke happens to break the tension of a serious moment).

Jordan Foster
Jordan Foster

We've known about the first thing since 2015

James Miller
James Miller

Finally confirming the Sith are truly dead.

Cameron Allen
Cameron Allen

OUT
FUCKING
SKILLED
HOW CAN SABERBOYS EVEN COMPETE WITH A BLASTER?

Jayden Jackson
Jayden Jackson

he fucked bitched before every kill to improve his aim.

damn

say some thing nice about him

James Allen
James Allen

LB + RB
owning a Shitbox One

Jeremiah Wilson
Jeremiah Wilson

How can a planet that orbits two suns be covered entirely in water?

James Brown
James Brown

Why not?

Zachary Ward
Zachary Ward

General Organa has an urgent message for you - it's about your mother.

Luke Russell
Luke Russell

Luke wanted Leia to be his first Jedi apprentice but she didn't want to do it.

You don't have to spoiler this we knew this from the novels.

So you're telling me that none of these fuckers ever developed to be strong in the force?

Elijah Rodriguez
Elijah Rodriguez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YyBtMxZgQs

it's like poetry, it rhymes

Elijah Harris
Elijah Harris

it ends with the resistance getting a clone army

there recreating a movie, you all just guessed the wrong one!

Jack Hill
Jack Hill

Can't really brag about that, that's probably major lag on his end.

When I'm playing this happens to me and I'm connecting fully with them BEFORE they roll on my screen but I can't deal any damage to them and the person is just...invincible to lightsaber strikes and I HAVE to use force powers to stop them.

Carson Wood
Carson Wood

yfw we spent all this time wondering what Rian wanted to be put in the novels and it was just him wanting to make a subtle "yo mama" joke

Carter Hill
Carter Hill

It's not even I want them to die. I just want them to have the balls to go yeah well shit happened outside the movies, but it's not important to the movie so don't mind it.

It's shit like caring about canon and inter-connectivity that gets you too fucked up and leads to shit like the failed cinematic universes.

Luis James
Luis James

I wonder if ribbit or teevee has gotten ahold of these pages

Henry Davis
Henry Davis

Wait, so Luke has been living without the Force? I can see how they might spin the reluctant teacher angle, now. And the stories in Legends of Luke Skywalker now have that much greater a nuance. The traitorous death of his life's work absolutely destroyed him. And his discovering just how far back the conflict of light and dark dates must have really pissed him off. It's awful and amusing to think about,
but Luke became Kreia .

Connor Adams
Connor Adams

Don't mention that name or you'll summon the autist

Jeremiah Cook
Jeremiah Cook

where it said that?

Thomas Long
Thomas Long

the prophecy said nothing about darkness being destroyed.
This obvious point is one reason why I always thought the Chosen One prophecy was a stupid addition to the story. Even without these sequels.

Ayden Collins
Ayden Collins

If it's in the movie then they aren't going to give it away.

FWIW, there was an article that was posted on Parade (https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2017/12/new-parade-article-teases-details-on-lightsabers-in-the-sequel-trilogy.html) hinting that we'll see a third lightsaber color in the movie.

Ayden Diaz
Ayden Diaz

The darkness is natural and part of the world.

It's the instinct in you to survive by killing life for you to consume.

The instinct to attack and kill something that is at threat to yourself and others.

The darkness isn't evil, the Sith were. It's people, not the darkness itself. In that recent teaser Rey opens herself up and feels both the light and the dark...but Luke isn't worried about the dark, it's the 3rd thing she senses and feels. Snoke.

Oliver Lewis
Oliver Lewis

Prophecies are always dumb, especially when they don't have any ironic twists.
Of all things that can be criticized about the Prequels, the lack of any sort of backstory or justification of the Prophecy was what was the worst to me.
Such a huge thing that echoes across all the movies, and it's only mentioned by Mace a handful of times in passing.

Kevin Foster
Kevin Foster

But it was mentioned in the Prequels as well. The prophecy only foretold the final destruction of the Sith, not the Dark Side. The Dark Side is as much the Force as the Force itself. The Dark Side is a mirror of insight into who you really are.

Alexander Nelson
Alexander Nelson

Rey being steered and pulled to the dark side
Kylo destroying his helmet that made him Kylo Ren.

Camden Fisher
Camden Fisher

I think there might have been something on them ages ago. But it was a while back. There was a weird shape to the X-wings I saw - either the top or bottom set of wings were really short, and the other ones were very long.

Julian Mitchell
Julian Mitchell

Y'see, this was all explored years ago in KotOR and everyone here hates that series with a fury.
Now Rian is doing it too and everyone loves it.

Sometimes I think you guys like things based on politics more than the actual content

Lincoln Morales
Lincoln Morales

Rian said the keyword is balance, the prime jedi looks to be perfectly balancing dark and light, and Luke is looking for a way to end the longstanding dark and light fueding cycles.

Grey might be the goal after all.

Caleb Reyes
Caleb Reyes

That was TFA concept art I believe, and Pablo said we haven't seen the T85 yet.

Mason Long
Mason Long

To be honest it would be very high honest actual levels of reverse poetry if Ben redeeming himself and asking for forgiveness is what saves Luke from his depression and his come back into the galaxy.

Ian Peterson
Ian Peterson

I'd love the movie if it ends with Luke and Ben hugging and forgiving each other.

Charles Rivera
Charles Rivera

So is Luke basically the Force equivalent of an atheist now? Does he even consider himself a Jedi at this point?

Jackson Parker
Jackson Parker

Probably not based on that line from the trailer

Carter Morgan
Carter Morgan

Don't be surprised if that actually happens, the spoilered soundtrack names suggest a more or less happy ending to this movie.

Henry Butler
Henry Butler

That's sort of my point. It doesn't really add any depth to the story. Sure, there's the (I guess) increased sense of tragedy with Anakin, but Obi-Wan's description of Anakin and Anakin's final sacrifice were tragic enough.

Destroying the Sith is a significant achievement and all, but so long as people feel temptation to indulge in their baser emotions there will always be a Dark Side and the potential for powerful assholes with lightsabers. Ending the Sith only makes for a curious technicality, and Snoke and Kylo only make this all the more blatant.

Blake Gonzalez
Blake Gonzalez

Do you know what an atheist is?

Robert Ross
Robert Ross

What? This has been knowledge since the OT. TCW went over it with the Yoda arc as well. The content itself is fine, if anything it's the politics behind it that ruffles feathers - I don't remember KotOR making any poor assumptions but KotOR II was deliberately steering you towards the Dark Side under the guise of "gray" morality. And somehow the whole fanbase took its lessons as the definition and foundation for "gray" Jedi.

Robert Flores
Robert Flores

Glad to see the New Republic we watched our intrepid rebels fight for over three movies was a useless sack of shit. Thanks JJ.

Noah Morris
Noah Morris

KotOR II was deliberately steering you towards the Dark Side under the guise of "gray" morality.
Yes, that was the point. You were given hints all game that Kreia was a bad person hiding. The game itself wasn't saying "This is superior!", it was Kreia the character saying it. And what a tweest that lady that's been saying bad things all game? She's a Sith Lord!
You can even say that Kreia acted like such a bitch with her greyness in order to provoke you to choose a side. "Apathy is death" she says.

Andrew Parker
Andrew Parker

You can blame Rian, actually.
He chose to make the New Republic totally defunct after the Starkiller attack.

Robert Phillips
Robert Phillips

I dunno. From what we're seeing, the difference between the Sith and Snoke is that the Sith deliberately fussed with the Dark Side to make something out of it, to turn it into a very real monster. Snoke on the other hand is more of a mystery. He speaks of balance as well but is likely using it in the wrong context given Kylo's visible struggle with it. Rey will no doubt attain a clearer picture with her Jedi training. Now that we get into this conversation though, the central struggle of the saga seems to be the perception of balance.

Landon Lewis
Landon Lewis

Kreia was because she was a Sith, you dupe, and if you weren't a dicksucker you would be playing a Jedi and disagreeing with her observations at every turn.

Elijah Clark
Elijah Clark

they're really implying about rey and poe

John Price
John Price

do these leaks confirm anakin reprised by hayden christensen

Jack Turner
Jack Turner

No.

Evan Johnson
Evan Johnson

The leaks only say that Rey sees Luke talking to "himself" but she doesn't see anyone.

Wyatt Nguyen
Wyatt Nguyen

Does that accelerator make Poe's X-Wing go 3 times as fast?

Joseph Moore
Joseph Moore

So the whole Snoke confrontation is gonna be RotJ 2.0 right?

Now...kill him. Take Kylo's place at my side.

Jace Lopez
Jace Lopez

the Sith are dead so let's replace them with another faction of dark side users
that way fans won't rage when we use them to insert more of our hamfisted Trump butthurt or whatever shitty political/social fad we're currently obsessed with

Jews in charge of subtlety

Thomas Turner
Thomas Turner

gold etched with the glyphs of Dwartii
I understood this reference

Cameron Sullivan
Cameron Sullivan

this was all explored years ago in KotOR and everyone here hates that series with a fury
People love Kotor.

At least the first one. People are critical over the second with Kreia. And then the TOR mmo sucks huge donkey balls.

Grayson Mitchell
Grayson Mitchell

This is not going to go the way you think.

From the various demo reels, it looks a lot like Kylo Ren and Rey fight the Praetorian Guards near the end of the movie.

Bentley Morgan
Bentley Morgan

We knew that was coming since TFA.
Go get that Force girl. Yeah, I can totally have two apprentices. I won't make you fight for the position

Kayden Jackson
Kayden Jackson

Exactly. That said, I don't hate KotOR II myself, it's one of my favorites for how it handles the Forcevin some ways. Kreia's whole plot around echoes of the death of life in the Force threatening to deafen the entire galaxy to the Force thus allowing everyone to experience life "as is" was fantastic, but the attitude it bred ftom the fandom was over the top levels of obnoxious. The problem isn't so much with content as it is with the people who consume and interpret it - the fans. They wanted more of it without realizing it would turn Star Wars into another genetic B sci-fi.

Zachary Mitchell
Zachary Mitchell

his ships called Black One of course it's good at running

Benjamin Clark
Benjamin Clark

The reason the Sith were bad was because they attempted to break the fabric of reality by taking control of the cosmic force. They were basically like a bunch of pedophile satanist nazis trying to make time machines so they could go around and fuck up everything for all of eternity. Snoke is still bad because he's an evil satanist who wants to take over the galaxy, but he isn't as bad as the guys who attempted to build time machines to break the fabric of reality if you know what I'm trying to say.

Levi Cook
Levi Cook

Not good at swimming though, which explains why it gets destroyed in the hangar of a cruiser built by water worlders

Mon KKKmari

Noah Brown
Noah Brown

No, ending the Sith means ending a religion that perverted the Force and MOST IMPORTANTLY the Sith ritual on Coruscant that Sidious was running that was smothering out the light side of the Force. That was the source of the imbalance in the Force, the Sith ritual. When Sidious died at Vader's hand he completed the prophecy and the ritual ended thus restoring balance.

(Though as we saw with fucking holocrons laying around waiting to be opened by Force users it's not believable that the Sith could end lol)

Liam Turner
Liam Turner

RJ already said he doesn't want to bring contemporary politics into this movie because that would just piss a good portion of the movie's audience off. One interview he explicitly stated that he wanted to stay as far away from making a Trump reference as possible.

Jayden Clark
Jayden Clark

yfw Snoke was one of the Jedi who helped rebuild the Republic alongside the 4 sages but he attempted to stage a coup so the Jedi exiled him to the Unknown Regions and he feels he's taking back what's rightfully his

Nathaniel Gray
Nathaniel Gray

statue of BRAAAAAPPPPP

Liam Peterson
Liam Peterson

I did. What's ridiculous is that the narrative still punishes you in some way for it. You learn to take your licks regardless but there's no reward in anything you-

...oh.

Jeremiah Gutierrez
Jeremiah Gutierrez

No, that's exactly what I thought.

Snoke Force tortures her and Kylo has the Vader moment and feels their bond and helps her and then they fight Snoke's forces together

Zachary Morris
Zachary Morris

KotOR II was deliberately steering you towards the Dark Side under the guise of "gray" morality

No no no, it was telling you to stop eating whatever shit the Jedi and Sith fed you and think for yourself. For example, be a good person because you think that's the right thing to do, not because the Jedi code says so and you'll get goodboy points for it.

Cooper Rivera
Cooper Rivera

The narrative punishes you how? Kreia gets pissy and you lose influence with her rather than gain objective dark side or light side points? You very much misinterpreted what the story was pushing and what it was not. Even then, Kreia never pushed you to do anything. It was only after actions that she would talk about it, and just saying you'll consider her teachings would gain influence.

Isaac Ward
Isaac Ward

What happens if you max influence with Kreia?
I don't remember ever doing that

Liam Bennett
Liam Bennett

Let's face it, people just getting triggered by the shorthand of "chosen one", otherwise the prophesy adds a lot.
Starting with Qui-Gon going with the flow of the force and placing a bomb inside Sidious's plans in the form of Anakin.

Sidious would have still enacted his plan without Anakin, but the force created Anakin to be its secret operative in the heart of the Sith's inner circle.

The prophesy is great, don't let the fact that tv tropes made you notice the overuse of the term "chosen one" in fiction take away from that.

Charles Murphy
Charles Murphy

The narrative punishes you how?

KOTOR:

Merchant bullied by Davik's thugs needs 100 credits. After you kill the thugs:

1. Here's 100 credits. Take them. [Light Side]
2. I'm just glad I could help. (when you choose this, the merchant says "I'm getting out of here before any more of Davik's goons show up. You should do the same." and runs off)
3. Hand over all your credits if you want to live! [Dark Side]

KOTOR II:

Beggar: "I saw what you did to those exchange thugs, stranger. Can you spare a few credits, maybe help another refugee in need?"

1. Of course. Here's five credits. [Light Side]
Refugee: "Thank you stranger, - I won't forget your kindness."
(Refugee exits)
Kreia: "Why would you do such a thing? Such kindness will mean nothing, his path is set. Giving him what he has not earned is like pouring sand into his hands.
Exile: "It may help him - if nothing else but to survive. As long as there is hope, there is the chance for redemption every day."
Kreia: "And would that be a kindness? What if by surviving another day, he brings a greater darkness upon another?"
Exile: "You cannot know that."
Kreia: "The Force binds all things. The slightest push, the smallest touch, sends echoes throughout life. Even an act of kindness may have more sever repercussions than you know or can see. By giving him something he has not earned, perhaps all you have helped him become is a target."
(Through the force, Kreia and Surik watch the refugee as he is mugged by another refugee)
Kreia: "Seeing another elevated often brings the eyes of others who suffer. And perhaps in the end, all you have wrought is more pain. And that is my lesson to you. Be careful of charity and kindness, lest you do more harm with open hands than with a clenched fist."

2. "I have nothing for you, get out of my way"(if you choose this option the beggar just asks for credits again and you get presented with Options 1 and 3)

3. Get out of here before I kill you! [Dark Side]

Elijah Sanchez
Elijah Sanchez

I see no punishment there.

Josiah Gonzalez
Josiah Gonzalez

Anyone know why clone troopers look like they're 30-40 when they're supposed to be biologically in their 20s?

Thomas Stewart
Thomas Stewart

I want something like this scene but not a dream.

Luke James
Luke James

Stress can cause you to age faster. War tends to be stressful

Nathan James
Nathan James

It forces you to either choose the light side points option or the darkside points one.

and if you choose the lightside one Kreia berates you and the game tells you all about how your 5 credits you gave were wasted because the beggar gets mugged.

Ian Thomas
Ian Thomas

Because they are biologically-designed to age twice as fast. It's why what little hair Rex has left is grey in Rebels.

Nathan Garcia
Nathan Garcia

You could ask more about her attactchment to Revan, but otherwise doesn't affect much. She loves you as her favorite student either way. She's actually far more disappointed if you're a Sith than a Jedi, she says you utterly failed her if you go full dark side, as she never intended to see the Jedi die as you do.

What people don't understand is that her favorite version of the Exile is the lightside version who does they think despite the Jedi rejecting them. She just loves that you don't follow the dogma of the Code.

The narrative punished you nowhere in that example.

In fact, to counter your example, saying that no one is beyond redemption on Korriban GAINS you influence points with Kreia.

Joseph Hernandez
Joseph Hernandez

Crew supervisors have found that occasionally pairing current-generation BB-units with decades-old R-series astromechs causes both types to learn from each other.

CUTE

Ryan Taylor
Ryan Taylor

It forces you to either choose the light side points option or the darkside points one.
That's punishment?

Blake Sanders
Blake Sanders

You get berated if you do the darkside option too, you know.

Levi Butler
Levi Butler

Kreia is shit
News at 11

Chase Wilson
Chase Wilson

So I guess we have a confirmation for what New Republic soldiers look like now.

Benjamin Flores
Benjamin Flores

True but they looked old even early in the CW.
Yes but clones were created 10 years before AOTC so they should only look 20 or younger even.

Brandon Wilson
Brandon Wilson

Yeah, sometimes in life you have to choose, don't you?

Wyatt Nguyen
Wyatt Nguyen

So they look like fucking Doom Marines? I can dig that. Hopefully, we'll actually see some in E9 or something.

William Parker
William Parker

So they just look like the Resistance. How lame.

Christopher Evans
Christopher Evans

movie is called "the last jedi"
he probably does

Luke Jones
Luke Jones

You don't even want an answer, you're just attempting to point out a flaw.
Why did you phrase it as a question?

Landon Flores
Landon Flores

otherwise the prophesy adds a lot.
It really doesn't.

Luis Hughes
Luis Hughes

The punishment is that you are pretty much have to chose the dark side option to not hear a long Kreia ramble.

Unlike the KOTOR scene, you can't just say no and part ways. You either have to give the guy 5 credits, hear Kreia ramble, and watch the beggar get mugged so the game can pound into you about how you aren't good at all and that didn't help, or be a dick.

Not nearly as much as the light side option. The game doesn't allow you to be neutral in the scene like KOTOR did. You either have to be a massive dickwad or watch as the game rails into you about how being a good person is wrong.

So why don't I have to choose to stop and give money to every bum with a cardboard sign begging IRL?

Why didn't Revan have to either give the merchant credits or be a dick to him in KOTOR?

Jack Wright
Jack Wright

I just explained why it does though. The force created a weapon to maintain equilibrium in the universe.

Jordan Long
Jordan Long

no double spread, mention, or even screenshot of force ghosts on Ahch-to
They aren't in the movie after all.

Colton Taylor
Colton Taylor

No, I see what they mean. The only punishment is in how you yourself feel about it, and whether or not you yourself took Kreia's criticism to heart. The other characters may say or do things but in the end it's your own self and feeling that matters. Yes, you're told to be more conscious of the bigger picture in the perceptibly smaller things you do, but you're otherwise free to make your own decisions. It's better to be selfless but in the end there's still your own self to care for. That said, her lessons on manipulation, taking advantage of others and having others fight their own battles tended to be more harsh than they needed to be, given the Light Side options only foretold much longer and harder fought battles whereas the Dark Side options gave you the shortest paths by using human suffering to your benefit. The ire in this is that the latter is usually the "correct" choice, at least in Kreia's opinion of the less energy spent on this is more spent elsewhere in a situation that really needs it.

But in the end, it's all up to your own perception.

Noah Watson
Noah Watson

OR they're just not in the book

Brandon Garcia
Brandon Garcia

attempting
But it is a flaw. What twenty year old have you seen look as old as Morrison???

Tyler Jones
Tyler Jones

ticklish tail end off limits

Thomas Hernandez
Thomas Hernandez

Okay. That's a fun-fact wrinkle in the story, but it doesn't really lend anything thematically or in terms of characterization.

Cooper Martinez
Cooper Martinez

Because the game doesn't simulate every inane conversation you have across the adventure dumbass. It puts that NPC there because they're important to the story and its development, and your choices do affect that. The point of the conversation was to give insight into Kreia's character based off what your character is. Rather than KOTOR I's blatant early game access to light side and dark side points, KOTOR II was trying to ask you something about actions you take for granted in RPGs.

Brody Cook
Brody Cook

They're kind of important to the over all story, and Pablo would need to describe what and who they are for the kiddies that don't know them. If he could fill the ROVD with a bunch of background shit that only appeared in a couple frames, he could fill the TLJVD with things that actually matter.
If they're no there, it's a bad sign.

Lucas Walker
Lucas Walker

But why did you phrase it as a question?

thematically or in terms of characterization.
You're an idiot. People like Star Wars because it's cool. You don't like the X-Wing because of its thematic relevance and characterization.

You say fun fact I say valid reason to like something.

Brayden Phillips
Brayden Phillips

Yall know some mothafucka gotta be driving that thing, right? Probably some hairy, grief stricken mothafucka...

I'm calling it. He's going to drive that icon right into that big-assed death star laser and earn his porg hating ass a glorious death.

John Cooper
John Cooper

Because the game doesn't simulate every inane conversation you have across the adventure dumbass.
Of course not. But KotOR 2 didn't need to punish you for being kind to the beggar.

It puts that NPC there because they're important to the story and its development, and your choices do affect that.
He's no more important than the merchant from KOTOR.

The point of the conversation was to give insight into Kreia's character based off what your character is.
As if the entire game wasn't already doing that.

Rather than KOTOR I's blatant early game access to light side and dark side points, KOTOR II was trying to ask you something about actions you take for granted in RPGs.
No, KOTOR II was just taking one of many opportunities to punish the player for being a good person.

Adrian Moore
Adrian Moore

I'm an idiot for being unimpressed with hackneyed plot additions
Okay.

Luke Kelly
Luke Kelly

In the end, her lessons can really just be summed up as "beware of causes" and not to let the world define the truth of who you are like it did for her and so many others.

Aiden Turner
Aiden Turner

Aw, fuck everything if this turns out to be the case. Maybe there's a twist where it subverts expectations about ancient knowledge in stories. Usually, the ancients are right about everything and the modern characters go back to their roots. Maybe here, it'll be a twist that matches much of real life where nope, it turns out that the ancients were a bit off base and there's a good reason for why the later Jedi really didn't care much for the Dark Side.

I dunno, hopefully it's less Grey and more balance out the Dark natural to you by working toward the light.

Besides which, of course evil will always exist. Just because Space Hitler is dead doesn't mean that you wiped out evil. The thing about that is that you can't go around trying to ensure a permanent peace through compromise with evil without pulling a Chamberlain or sacrificing your ideals.

TL;DR: Just because the battle against evil is endless doesn't mean it isn't worth fighting.

Mason Phillips
Mason Phillips

You're changing your tone now. Is it a fun fact wrinkle or a hackneyed plot addition?

Jose Cooper
Jose Cooper

Of course not. But KotOR 2 didn't need to punish you for being kind to the beggar.
It didn't. It did not punish you. You don't seem to get this. You gained no punishment in game for telling Kreia off in that scene, or for agreeing with her.

He's no more important than the merchant from KOTOR.
In the grand scheme of things, no, and that's kind of the point to what Kreia says.

As if the entire game wasn't already doing that.
Yeah, and sometimes the game does it beyond major story moments, you know? Those who were trained by the Jedi find any moment to teach, don't they? Kreia is essential to the story considering she's the antagonist, so of course the game is going to take the time to define her motivations, her style of teaching, and her views on things.

No, KOTOR II was just taking one of many opportunities to punish the player for being a good person.
There are plenty of moments in the game, such as the Dantooine defense and Onderon civil war where it does no such thing, outside of the example on Korriban I just gave. You are being completely disingenuous.

Daniel Adams
Daniel Adams

KOTOR didn't feel the need to tell us that the Merchant we helped ended up being brutally murdered by Davik and his thugs after we gave him the money(not that that actually happened, just an example), because KOTOR didn't punish players for daring to be good.

Leo Thompson
Leo Thompson

No, it didn't ever punish you for being a goody two shoes, it exclusively punished you and made you look childish for being evil. KOTOR II has moments of punishing, rewarding, or doing nothing when it comes to both sides.

Gabriel Fisher
Gabriel Fisher

Both.

It doesn't ruin Star Wars for me or even the prequels. But I don't think it enriches the story at all.

Ryder Bell
Ryder Bell

at all.
But you said it was a fun fact wrinkle. So by "at all" you must mean "not much".

Evan Bell
Evan Bell

It didn't. It did not punish you. You don't seem to get this. You gained no punishment in game for telling Kreia off in that scene, or for agreeing with her.
It DID punish you. You not only lose 5 credits, but you are shown on-screen and ranted at by Kreia that by giving the beggar 5 credits you just made his life worse. You are punished for making the light side decision there.

In the grand scheme of things, no, and that's kind of the point to what Kreia says.
So then why did you just try to claim he was important?

Yeah, and sometimes the game does it beyond major story moments, you know? Those who were trained by the Jedi find any moment to teach, don't they? Kreia is essential to the story considering she's the antagonist, so of course the game is going to take the time to define her motivations, her style of teaching, and her views on things.
Yes, but the game did not need to do it in that instance, just like KOTOR didn't.

There are plenty of moments in the game, such as the Dantooine defense and Onderon civil war where it does no such thing, outside of the example on Korriban I just gave. You are being completely disingenuous.
And there are a hundredfold more moments where it punishes you for being good.

Ethan Flores
Ethan Flores

No, it didn't ever punish you for being a goody two shoes, it exclusively punished you and made you look childish for being evil.
you mean.... just like pretty much everything else in the franchise?

KOTOR II has moments of punishing, rewarding, or doing nothing when it comes to both sides.
And yet it doesn't let you do nothing.

Dylan Johnson
Dylan Johnson

In all honesty the problem isn't just the event, but the assumption of the event itself.

The game treats Kreia like she's more important than she functionally is. You can basically tell any other NPC to fuck off and stay on the ship and they will, but even if you make Kreia fuck off she'll just use the force to lecture you anyway. Not only that, but bonuses to YOUR character are locked behind her, unlike other characters where outside of getting a lightsaber it's usually easily replacable gear or bonuses to that NPC, like T3-M4's bonuses for repairing him.

Despite the fact that she's basically bolted to your hip for the entire campaign she's incredibly unpleasant and insists on ordering you not to have fun. Don't shag the women throwing themselves at you. Don't play these games. Don't make friends. Don't feed this homeless guy. She's one of the most blatantly evil and unpleasant characters to exist but we're meant to be shocked she was a Sith Lord who betrays us.

Kriea isn't a viable party member outside of specific builds because her link doesn't make up for the versitility loss that comes with a lack of gear options. She isn't a fun character to be around because half her dialogue is just telling you not to do things that you bought the game to do. She's a chore you have to put up with to get back to the actual fun parts of the game.

Christopher Thomas
Christopher Thomas

Maybe. I sincerely don't mind if you like the Chosen One plotline. The idea that people dislike it purely because of TV Tropes strikes me as off-base, though. It just always struck me as superfluous and a little lazy. If you disagree though more power to you; I'm curious if/how the next two movies will reference it.

Lucas Perry
Lucas Perry

Again, the only lazy part is the name it's given, and the only reason it strikes you as superfluous is because the entire PT strikes you as a little superfluous.

Matthew Roberts
Matthew Roberts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhZ0XzSkdqo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYG2GLV9YVg

David James
David James

How is a character giving you their views on things a punishment? Because you don't like what's being? Your argument is frankly absurd and completely based on the fact you don't like Kreia. Which is cool, she's WRITTEN to be unlikable at several points in the story, from when she's manipulating your party members to setting Nihilus on Telos. The character is important to the story because it is important to Kreia's views on things, which is incredibly important. He's not important to the world at large. These are two different things I would assume you can distinguish. And of course the game needed to do it there, how Kreia views consequences and the Force is entirely central to her antagonistic plans. And considering the game heavily pushes you being GOOD in most major questlines, you're just being stubborn.

No, it doesn't let you do nothing because the character you play didn't do nothing before and is a former Jedi. Those that grew up with the force and weren't made to forget about it like Revan don't just say buzz off to everyone. And in many cases in KOTOR II you can still say that.

The game treats Kreia like she's important because she's the damn main antagonist, and wants you to understand her when the time comes to fight her, unlike Malak who's barely expanded on despite being extremely close to the main character.

John Edwards
John Edwards

How is a character giving you their views on things a punishment? Because you don't like what's being? Your argument is frankly absurd and completely based on the fact you don't like Kreia. Which is cool, she's WRITTEN to be unlikable at several points in the story, from when she's manipulating your party members to setting Nihilus on Telos. The character is important to the story because it is important to Kreia's views on things, which is incredibly important. He's not important to the world at large. These are two different things I would assume you can distinguish. And of course the game needed to do it there, how Kreia views consequences and the Force is entirely central to her antagonistic plans. And considering the game heavily pushes you being GOOD in most major questlines, you're just being stubborn.
I love how you continue to ignore that the game both shows you how your good deed was not a good deed at all but it has a character tell you that your good deed was terrible and you should feel bad.

You just keep saying "well uhh how is kreia saying something punishment" as if that negates everything I've been saying or the scenes themselves.

Owen Lewis
Owen Lewis

Because not everything you do will be good, and the entire conversation challenges the implicit assumption that your character when being well intentioned will solve every little problem. It's not a punishment, it's supposed to make you understand that sometimes no matter what, things go badly.

Ryan Price
Ryan Price

Because not everything you do will be good, and the entire conversation challenges the implicit assumption that your character when being well intentioned will solve every little problem. It's not a punishment, it's supposed to make you understand that sometimes no matter what, things go badly.
That "point" can be accomplished in many ways. The game does not need to punish you(and it DOES, stop pretending it doesn't) for doing a kind act.

Again, KOTOR did not feel the need to do that, especially not in a comparable scene. KOTOR II should not have.

Caleb Miller
Caleb Miller

Pretty the story was trying to teach you that things are more complicated than white=good and black=bad.

Ryder Gutierrez
Ryder Gutierrez

It couldn't have been done in a larger questline because those would take longer than the game is set to show the consequences, you fucking utter dumbass. It wasn't saying you weren't a good person, it was just saying sometimes things don't always go well no matter what you do. And you are still conveniently ignoring it punishes you for the Dark Side option as well.

KOTOR I followed the RPG assumption that when you're good, everything is peachy, and when you're bad, everything is bad, that's why it didn't do that. Even then, party members interjected just as much in KOTOR I to say they don't like what you did.

Gavin Morales
Gavin Morales

what's it based off? looks like a beretta 92, or a sig
the FO pistol is just a glock

Liam Price
Liam Price

Oh sorry, "punishes".

Hunter Campbell
Hunter Campbell

that holdout blaster derringer is cute
I hope it gets used

Michael Reed
Michael Reed

either a sig sauer or one of those proprietary smith and Wesson designs

Ian Campbell
Ian Campbell

I don't think it punishes you, but it does make you question your approach to things a bit more consciously from thereon in. It feels like it doesn't make sense in a universe that fundamentally operates on moral relativity, but the punishment isn't in doing, but rather in the forseeable aftermaths of the act. You can't not expect a sizeable expansion of the dialogue mechanic and function of choice in the sequel to the game that prided itself on it.

Aiden Rogers
Aiden Rogers

Pretty the story was trying to teach you that things are more complicated than white=good and black=bad.
Which isn't Star Wars.

It couldn't have been done in a larger questline because those would take longer than the game is set to show the consequences, you fucking utter dumbass.
It didn't need to be done at all.

It wasn't saying you weren't a good person, it was just saying sometimes things don't always go well no matter what you do.
No, it tells you that because you were kind, you're actually a terrible person because your kindness led to the beggar getting mugged.

And you are still conveniently ignoring it punishes you for the Dark Side option as well.
Outside of Dark Side points, no it doesn't. That's hardly a punishment if you're going for the Dark Side angle.

KOTOR I followed the RPG assumption that when you're good, everything is peachy, and when you're bad, everything is bad, that's why it didn't do that. Even then, party members interjected just as much in KOTOR I to say they don't like what you did.
So what you're saying is, KOTOR understands what Star Wars is, and KOTOR II doesn't.

Zachary Wright
Zachary Wright

You can't not expect a sizeable expansion of the dialogue mechanic and function of choice in the sequel to the game that prided itself on it.
It's hardly an "expansion" when KOTOR II removes your ability to do the neutral option in a scene where being neutral is perfectly fine.

Ryan White
Ryan White

The game treats Kreia like she's important because she's the damn main antagonist, and wants you to understand her when the time comes to fight her, unlike Malak who's barely expanded on despite being extremely close to the main character.

Except there's no rational in game reason to listen to anything she has to say. The only reason to even try is because the game hard locks upgrades behind her stupid tirades and if you don't pretend to care you won't get arbitrary power boosts that make no sense outside of RPG mechanics.

Dylan Perry
Dylan Perry

It's pretty apparent at this point you just don't agree with the message or character of Kreia, and that's fine, dude. But you're the one that is fundamentally misunderstanding Star Wars if you think that good intentions and sticking to the light side in Star Wars means everything always turns out correctly and that KOTOR II as a result should have made it so that when you're good everything else should have been good.

You don't have to listen, you can tell her to fuck off in every conversation and you'll lose influence, but other than that you can talk to her to upgrade yourself without ever doing the in depth discussions. You're fundamentally wrong on that aspect.

Nathaniel Gonzalez
Nathaniel Gonzalez

No the grip's wrong for a S&W, looks like this airsoft P226 actually
I prefer when they use target and competition pistols, far more unique-looking

Zachary Gutierrez
Zachary Gutierrez

But you're the one that is fundamentally misunderstanding Star Wars if you think that good intentions and sticking to the light side in Star Wars means everything always turns out correctly and that KOTOR II as a result should have made it so that when you're good everything else should have been good.

I can't believe that people STILL don't understand that Star Wars is Good vs Evil.

Michael Fisher
Michael Fisher

I can't believe you missed the point of the prequels that being good intentioned doesn't mean things always turn out correctly, either.

Ethan Jenkins
Ethan Jenkins

The prequels never had a scene where the pit droid head that Anakin fixed for Watto ended up killing him.

Brandon Hill
Brandon Hill

Yes or No

Was TLJ extremely predictable?

Jeremiah Morales
Jeremiah Morales

No, but it had scenes such as Obi-Wan taking Anakin as an apprentice and being unable to mentor him correctly, scenes where Yoda tried to give Anakin advice over bad dreams and completely failed, and scenes where Anakin trying to save his wife failed spectacularly.

Lucas Cox
Lucas Cox

is there a hand cannon more unwieldy than the S-5?

Gabriel Phillips
Gabriel Phillips

No, but it had scenes such as Obi-Wan taking Anakin as an apprentice and being unable to mentor him correctly, scenes where Yoda tried to give Anakin advice over bad dreams and completely failed, and scenes where Anakin trying to save his wife failed spectacularly.
None of those are comparable to the KOTOR and KOTOR II sequences.

Ethan Rodriguez
Ethan Rodriguez

They completely are, especially the Yoda one. You just want to nuh uh.

Cameron Williams
Cameron Williams

How are any of those comparable to two scenes where insignificant nobodies can be helped via a small act of kindess?

Oliver Walker
Oliver Walker

Actually the SE-44 and the 44C are based of the FAB Dense KPOS.

While the Glie-44 which what Finn,Poe, and the Resistance use as a pistol are based off the P226.

Christian Flores
Christian Flores

The end of this trailer
I am aroused

https://streamable.com/gxw8i

Blake Morales
Blake Morales

You don't have to listen, you can tell her to fuck off in every conversation and you'll lose influence, but other than that you can talk to her to upgrade yourself without ever doing the in depth discussions. You're fundamentally wrong on that aspect.

So you can tell her to fuck off, but then you HAVE to deal with her for gameplay progression, and this is totally different. Ok.

If they wanted that last fight to actually mean something they could have made her, y'know, engaging or likable in literally anyway.

Connor Parker
Connor Parker

Because a small act of kindness on Yoda's part when he had no idea what was going to happen made Anakin's turmoil worse. The point is that being good in Star Wars doesn't always work out, and you don't understand that because you're mentally deficient. Yes, it's a story of good vs. evil, but that doesn't mean being good always causes good things to happen in every instance.

Yes, it is totally different. She's your teacher as you come back to the force, you can walk up and say "yo, teach me a new force technique as my teacher" and she will teach you with no indepth dialogue required and then you go on your merry way. If you take your time to ask her about her past outside of story moments she is quite sympathetic actually.

Cameron Moore
Cameron Moore

>AT-AT confirmed to be a Clone Wars design
About fucking time.

Cooper Walker
Cooper Walker

when did Clones use it? I only remember Turbotanks and the six-legged turtle

Blake Ortiz
Blake Ortiz

The sixed legged one is probably what its referring to

Liam Rogers
Liam Rogers

The AT-TE.

Liam Perez
Liam Perez

Nerd

Isaiah Martinez
Isaiah Martinez

Are they setting it up that Rey and Kylo go up against Snoke and his Guards? The training sessions and end duel seem to imply this. I would imagine they get BTFO though

Hudson Phillips
Hudson Phillips

The AT-TE is extremely different from the AT-AT in functionality and purpose. It would be foolish to confuse the two together. In the EU, AT-AT designs go back to when the Republic had trouble with repulsorlift vehicles on Jabiim.

Sebastian Morales
Sebastian Morales

My heart leapt, that was -too- much. Who made that TV spot? Goddamn it

Ayden Morgan
Ayden Morgan

Yes. This has been theorized for a while. And now we see Rey calling Kylo's lightsaber to her while the Praetorian Guards begin attacking.

Jaxson Howard
Jaxson Howard

So if my math's correct Luke is around 50 when TLJ starts?

Asher Scott
Asher Scott

no one talking about this

Ayden Sanders
Ayden Sanders

Literally two posts above you

Asher Smith
Asher Smith

HOLY SHIT LIGHTSABER OF PLAGUEIS CONFIRMED

Wyatt Smith
Wyatt Smith

oh my bad. Fucking weird thing to put in a TV Spot this close to the release date. They couldn't have kept that a secret for 8 more days?

Brayden Lewis
Brayden Lewis

52.

Hunter Price
Hunter Price

'We gotta think of what the audience wants,'" Hamill says. "And he'd say, 'No, we've gotta think of what we want.' Which is a learning process for me."
Holy shit Rian really was the perfect choice to direct this. Increasingly annoyed they didn't get him back in for IX

Benjamin Russell
Benjamin Russell

armor made from a Naboo ship formerly in the ownership of Palpatine

Ryan Moore
Ryan Moore

Just had Maul, Vader, and Kylo Ren camp the door outside a spawn point where there's stairs. Fun times. Tell me why heroes don't get weaker if they're next to other heroes?

Thomas Wright
Thomas Wright

You know you want to...

Jose Parker
Jose Parker

cut himself off from the force

WE JEDI EXILE NOW

David Collins
David Collins

And then you get influence when you tell her that you will find her disposable or something to that regard.

Alexander Phillips
Alexander Phillips

She's your teacher as you come back to the force, you can walk up and say "yo, teach me a new force technique as my teacher" and she will teach you with no indepth dialogue required and then you go on your merry way.

Except that doesn't really make sense in the context of everything else the narrative is building for you. YOU are meant to be the teacher for everyone else. It doesn't really make sense for the teacher to have to learn all the same shit all over again while teaching that exact same shit to people as if they were a master.

Ryan Kelly
Ryan Kelly

I think I understand more why Hamill was a bit pissy about Luke's direction. He always wanted Luke to be the next Obi Wan. I think this direction is more interesting.

Dylan Powell
Dylan Powell

Which isn't Star Wars.

Of course it isn't, we aren't allowed moral ambiguity and complex themes in Star Wars

Jose Peterson
Jose Peterson

Correct. This is a Good vs Evil story, not some deviantart-tier fanfic

Cameron Moore
Cameron Moore

Kreia's whole thing is not to be a hero who feels the need to save everyone but also not to be a mass murderer who kills for fun and power.

She wants to you be above all that and do what needs to be done for the good of the galaxy or yourself, think of everyone including her as a tool to be used.

Carter Price
Carter Price

In all honesty I still disagree with the entire direction. Luke WAS set up to be the next Obi-Wan. His saber wasn't just directly modeled after that one, but was actually an old prop for that character refitted, which Mark talks about at length. His relationship with Obi-Wan and Yoda clearly set him up to go in that direction at the end of the OT.

To say he lost it all offscreen, is broken and accomplished nothing, and his entire legacy came down to ashes, is essentially an insult, and not to the fans so much as the original story itself.

People love to suck Rian's dick but he's basically exactly like J.J. in that regard. He shits on what the OT is actually about, while aping the elements he thinks looks cool to make them even bigger than before.

Aaron Howard
Aaron Howard

Which is great and all but there's no way for that to actually happen. That's the point of the original discussion, you get railroaded into an unskippable lecture if you do good and you have to murder a dude if you don't want that. The neutral response just loops back to that binary.

The game isn't even built to make you neutral. It's built so you have advantages from being either maximum light or dark. You either HAVE to go full edgelord and kill people with lightning or you HAVE to be a messiah who saves everybody in the galaxy or else your entire build is essentially shot to hell because suddenly bread and butter stuff like healing costs more as a jedi or damaging lightning attacks cost more as a sith.

Kreia's philosophy doesn't work, full stop. It doesn't work in the context of being a game. It doesn't work in the context of how everything else portrays the force. It doesn't even work in the context of it's own story. Because at the end of the day KOTOR isn't Jedi Knight and while you can nominally do dark and light you very much are penalized for trying to be 2kool4skool and doing both.

Michael Harris
Michael Harris

An insult to traditional story telling that the OT embraced? Luke is at his absolute peak at the end of Return. He's defeated the Sith, the Empire, and helped his father achieve redemption when no one else thought it was possible. As tradition commands, that peak needs an equal valley and the failure of the Jedi Academy is Luke's valley.

Cooper Hill
Cooper Hill

Everyone interested in Kreia should really watch this video. Yes I know it is long but it covers and explains a lot if things being discussed here.
https://youtu.be/-Z0S0Z8lUTg

The guy I linked talked about thus as well. Kreia understood that 'balance' was not possible, which is why she wanted to destroy the force. Also the guy I linked has a video on gray Jedi and why they are stupid, you might like that.

Eli Edwards
Eli Edwards

He has to work with what he's got. You can't blame him for trying to mack it cohesive.

If he can actually turn this around, you damn right we'll suck his dick.

Austin Long
Austin Long

Except that was never implied to be his peak. The idea that that HAS to be his peak is essentially just a justification.

Leo Walker
Leo Walker

He shits on what the OT is actually about, while aping the elements he thinks looks cool to make them even bigger than before.
In the case of Luke, I'm willing to give him a pass because he inherited a situation (Luke in exile) with no guidance as to why it happened and had to come up with exactly why Luke went away.

Jeremiah Richardson
Jeremiah Richardson

Kreia understood that 'balance' was not possible, which is why she wanted to destroy the force.

Bull fucking shit it's not. The galaxy has centuries of peace sometimes disturbed by a sith shitfest. There's no constant war. A sith claiming balance isn't possible is like a gangster saying crime is inevitable after they get robbed.

Jason Miller
Jason Miller

No she wanted it gone cause she blamed it for all the shit that happened to her and the galaxy

Evan Cox
Evan Cox

Luke was being built up on the remains of the old order. This way he makes something entirely new of and for himself.

Luis Sanchez
Luis Sanchez

Ultimatley the problem isn't the situation he was handed anymore, it's how it looks like he's handling it. We don't have any real idea of what the knights of Ren are or how they act because he wants to have his super duper imperial guard be the showstoppers. We don't have any new starfighters because the A-Wing is apparently his favorite thing ever. His showstopping battle is walkers and speeders and a bunch of dudes in an old rebel base on a white field.

The Force Awakens had like two or three new things and those all got abandoned in favor of even more nostalgiabait.

Lucas Reed
Lucas Reed

This way he makes something entirely new of and for himself.

Did you miss the dialogue in VI that explicitly says that's what he was already doing?

It's not even like he was doing it out of Coruscant or going to Ilum or anything else associated with the old jedi. By default zero details we have on his shit actually link it back to anything involving the old jedi except Luke himself having some amount of training and link himself.

Levi Jackson
Levi Jackson

The Force Awakens left an unsalveable plotline, but for a while I drank the "Rian is a good filmmaker/has good taste" kool-aid, but i've seen many thinks that have shaken that belief, including what you are saying.
But the straw that broke the camel's back was when he earnestly praised JJ for the "element of fun" he created in TFA.

Also we'll never Corsucant on the big screen again. (Rogue One doesn't count since they didn't generate new footage, they just recycled a digital matte from RotS.)

Star Wars is dead. The end.

Tyler Wright
Tyler Wright

The nods are alarming, but hopefully they are just that. We still have a chance for poetry.

Joseph Phillips
Joseph Phillips

>Snoke's orthopedic genie slippers

fucking lol

Brayden White
Brayden White

So he's Slitheryn?

Hunter Thomas
Hunter Thomas

I think it says a lot that Disney isn't even waiting for 8 to come out before saying they're doing something entirely unconnected to it and that'll be their main focus instead of 9 or saying they'll continue that era.

The "nods" count for two or three different locations, like half a dozen groups, the designs that take a majority of the screentime, essentially every other major character, and basically every other page in that book up there. You can even clearly tell which individual characters are copies of someone else like NotPorkins.

The way they're treating things doesn't even make sense anymore in the context of the entire Saga. The Skywalker Saber is a thing Anakin threw together when his old one broke and he had at least two others just like it before that one. Saying it's suddenly this super amazing thing that has signifigance makes no sense in the context of the films because it's only ever used for one of the six films the character appears in with a lightsaber.

Angel Bell
Angel Bell

It was his father's lightsaber. That's the significance. You don't know the connection of a knight's weapon to the knight himself? Old mythology put a lot of emphasis on the importance of the weapon as an extension of the warrior, not just a tool. Anakin's lightsaber is treated like Excalibur. Hamill has even said as much and it was intended that way in the OT.

Nicholas Scott
Nicholas Scott

I think it says a lot that Disney isn't even waiting for 8 to come out before saying they're doing something entirely unconnected to it and that'll be their main focus instead of 9 or saying they'll continue that era.
It certainly says something, but I can't puzzle out what.
Happiness with Rian's work? Dissatisfaction with the ST?
The two aren't mutually exclusive, but those and bringing JJ BACK make this whole situation not make much sense.

Alexander Nelson
Alexander Nelson

no one care

Caleb Evans
Caleb Evans

Snoke trains Kylo because he thinks only someone from the Skywalker bloodline can destroy the last Jedi
trailers shows he will start taking an interest in Rey over Kylo
IT'S HAPPENING

Andrew Rivera
Andrew Rivera

now AT-ST?

Thomas Morgan
Thomas Morgan

Yes, but this isn't the OT and the PT very much changed that context. You can't put that genie back in the bottle.

No matter the lore, Anakin's lightsaber stopped being all of that when it broke and he said "not again!" and picked up two more and lost them within the next hour. It downgraded the lightsaber from an extension of himself to a disposable tool to be lost and replaced as needed. Hell, no matter how much Kyber lore they try to pump into it they have Dark Disciple confirming they're cheap on the black market and Luke wielding like three or four other lightsabers in just NuCanon.

Hudson Rogers
Hudson Rogers

Hell, no matter how much Kyber lore they try to pump into it they have Dark Disciple confirming they're cheap on the black market and Luke wielding like three or four other lightsabers in just NuCanon.
this

Jack Allen
Jack Allen

think it's Jews
pleb

Brayden Perez
Brayden Perez

And in this game, Leia just stood back where no one could shoot her and turned her gun into a rocket launcher for every single shot. I'm just gonna have to put this down for awhile. Maybe forever.

Oliver Cruz
Oliver Cruz

No matter the lore, Anakin's lightsaber stopped being all of that when it broke and he said "not again!" and picked up two more and lost them within the next hour. It downgraded the lightsaber from an extension of himself to a disposable tool to be lost and replaced as needed.
Isn't this also at the same time he was being depicted as an immature whiner?

Caleb James
Caleb James

Hell the moment Star Wars was pushed as a franchise the way it is it stopped making sense. For Luke to be the last jedi, with no asterisks or "Well technically these people don't count", then a whole bunch of other people have to die uncerimoniously like Kanan, Ezra, the Uprising dude(And lets not split hairs, he has a lightsaber, uses the force, and fights the empire, hence "no asterisks"),and a whole bunch of other people who are both force sensitive and either in the rebellion or implied to be also have to just kind of disappear, since they're all in Luke's age range and would have more experience than him at that point since Jai Kell has been a rebel for like three or four years at this point and Hedala Fardi was implied to have also joined the rebellion while doing her own force stuff as a fucking infant.

Jeremiah Bennett
Jeremiah Bennett

Can I beg for the Hux page, please?

Nolan Myers
Nolan Myers

see

You're not going to be a able to win this one with the 'ol "I don't like the PT so there" shtick.

Benjamin Harris
Benjamin Harris

Except that's not at all what I said

Colton Wood
Colton Wood

I-I know that, s-silly b-billy.

Lucas Jackson
Lucas Jackson

That's not really relevant. If Anakins lightsaber has no signifigance to Anakin then transferring it by virtue of being Anakins lightsaber no longer matters.

You can't even say it's a thing unique to Anakin. Obi-Wan goes through three lightsabers in the prequels and he couldn't have just fished his original back from Naboo unless he failed to realize Mauls body never hit the bottom or had just crawled off since it all fell down the same hole.

Aaron Stewart
Aaron Stewart

I think his point is that Anakin's "not again" moment can't really be taken as indicative of the kind of person he becomes because that happens at a time when he's being intentionally depicted as immature, brash and irreverent. This is the same movie where Obi-Wan tries to get him to take his lightsaber seriously and he just kind of "yeah yeah"'s it off.

Logan Robinson
Logan Robinson

their might not be one, i think all the pages were shared except the contents and the index

Christopher King
Christopher King

If Anakins lightsaber has no signifigance to Anakin then transferring it by virtue of being Anakins lightsaber no longer matters.
We don't know if Anakin came to respect that lightsaber more than the previous one, given that he lost one in a factory at a time when he was still a reckless teenager.

Either way, what makes it take on a mythic element has nothing to do with how Anakin or Luke regarded it. It could've been just another tool to them, but to other people this was the lightsaber wielded by the legendary Skywalkers.

Gabriel Thompson
Gabriel Thompson

In fact, lets take it even further. That lightsaber mattered to Luke based on his idea of Anakin that was a lie. He loses it when he has to confront the truth about who Anakin really was. Ergo that lightsaber doesn't really matter in the sense of being an honorable heirloom so much as it does a pretense that has to be cast off.

Except as we've established, Obi-Wan has lost MORE lightsabers than Anakin. Hell, he has to have his handed back to him by someone else too. You can't really say losing and replacing your saber is a thing unique to Anakin when the person lecturing him has done the same thing.

Cameron Cox
Cameron Cox

I bet they sound like little Asian grandmas :3

Isaiah White
Isaiah White

Will RLM force the ATST meme or will they be hypocritical about it again?

Gavin Flores
Gavin Flores

We don't know if Anakin came to respect that lightsaber more than the previous one, given that he lost one in a factory at a time when he was still a reckless teenager.

And we can't assume he did. If it's not shown, implied, or hinted in any way it didn't happen any more than Anakin having a tattoo of Watto on his inner thighs.

Either way, what makes it take on a mythic element has nothing to do with how Anakin or Luke regarded it. It could've been just another tool to them, but to other people this was the lightsaber wielded by the legendary Skywalkers.

Anakin was just another knight when he lost it and Luke had a different lightsaber when he became a knight himself. There is no legend around the galaxy about that lightsaber because nobody told that legend. That lightsaber isn't excaliber.

Grayson Miller
Grayson Miller

I hope TLJ is just an ESB rehash, just to see if all the people saying "I won't support them if TLJ is a rehash too" will actually stay true to their word

Ayden Ward
Ayden Ward

You can't really say losing and replacing your saber is a thing unique to Anakin when the person lecturing him has done the same thing.
Except I didn't say that at all. My point is that you're making a bigger deal out of teenage Anakin being reckless with his lightsabers than it really is, and acting as if that one moment in AOTC means Anakin just plain doesn't care about lightsabers ever.

Ian Diaz
Ian Diaz

Shit, if you wanted to make a legend about a lightsaber Yoda's, which was publically destroyed in an explosion that surprised the guy who did it, could be the basis for a legend. Mace's, since he's specifically an actual legend for things he does with it, could be legendary, especially since it fell onto the street and is probably still out there. Even Qui-Gonn is a better candidate, given that the jedi made reproductions of it after he died.

Anakin wasn't a legend. He was just Luke's dad and that's all he ever really needed to be.

Daniel Long
Daniel Long

Anakin was a hero of the Clone Wars when he lost it. Luke also spent a majority of his time in the Galactic Civil War using that one.

Jaxon Ward
Jaxon Ward

Anakin was just another knight when he lost it
Anakin wasn't a legend
Anakin being considered legendary among the Jedi even while the Jedi Order was still active is canon, though. He's a posterboy for the Republic and Jedi younglings basically treat him like a sports star.

Julian Martinez
Julian Martinez

Anakin wasn't a legend. He was just Luke's dad and that's all he ever really needed to be.
wtf I hate TCW now

Jordan Wilson
Jordan Wilson

Sniper Rifle attachment for Lightsaber in Battlefront 2 when.

Aiden Barnes
Aiden Barnes

Anakin was a hero of the Clone Wars when he lost it.

So were literally ten thousand other jedi.

Luke also spent a majority of his time in the Galactic Civil War using that one.

Yes, but that was the period when the rebellion purposefully hid his identity, as detailed by Pablo in Propaganda. It's only after he has his green one that he becomes a legend and recognized by the galaxy.

Xavier Foster
Xavier Foster

only if you buy 150$ in lootcrates

Noah Campbell
Noah Campbell

http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/ea-may-not-bring-loot-boxes-back-to-battlefront-ii-w513439
guess that'll never happen, then

Aaron Russell
Aaron Russell

So were literally ten thousand other jedi.
No they weren't. Anakin and Obi-Wan were pretty much celebrities, dude. I don't know why you keep downplaying the way they're canonically regarded as major heroes even among the Jedi, all because you're mad that someone somewhere cares about a lightsaber.

Alexander Smith
Alexander Smith

No they weren't. Anakin and Obi-Wan were pretty much celebrities, dude.

Point to a source. I literally don't remember anynone actually treating them like celebrities.

Thomas Reed
Thomas Reed

I think by this point Pay2Win in this specific game is dead. The post launch buzz is gone. The outrage won't stop by the time christmas rolls around given how big it's gotten. Most of the money they could have made off it is already gone.

Mason Bennett
Mason Bennett

Not him but he's literally called a poster boy in ROTS

Camden Gutierrez
Camden Gutierrez

based consumers

Nathan Myers
Nathan Myers

Do you remember who was in that specific conversation. Because I'm drawing a blank.

Elijah Brooks
Elijah Brooks

When Anakin and Obi-Wan are talking right after they bring Palpatine back to the senate.

Evan Carter
Evan Carter

They'll make their money off of customization

Luke Gutierrez
Luke Gutierrez

p2w in Battlefront is dead
months from now people will still go "lol just buy more lootboxes xDDDD" when anyone says anything about it

Bentley Peterson
Bentley Peterson

In all honesty this is probably the beginning of the end for EA. TOR has no major expansions coming out and is clearly coming to the end of it's lifespan since players are increasingly complaining that the servers are mostly populated by bots. With one SW game dead and the other in freefall on top of TOR that entire brand is basiccally shot outside of mobile games, and it's increasingly looking like Disney might pull the plug on their deal early. On top of that Anthem apparently isn't looking too hot and they're resorting to the old standby of "buy another company that's doing ok".

Josiah Anderson
Josiah Anderson

Blue Master Race

Elijah Ward
Elijah Ward

Battlefront 2 is the closest to a big budget TCW game we're going to get, it doesn't deserve to die because people love to hop on the anti-EA bandwagon

Jack Baker
Jack Baker

There will always be Stat Wars games. Letting shitty one die increases chances of getting good ones

Levi Long
Levi Long

so let TOR and Galaxy of Heroes die, Battlefront isn't shit

Connor Hughes
Connor Hughes

This bitch was Barriss' best friend - she only bombed the Temple because the Jedi antics drove away her BFF who eventually became one of Sheev's buttsluts.

Jeremiah Thompson
Jeremiah Thompson

Konami Code reference in The Legends of Luke Skywalker
I'm having a love-hate relationship with this book.

Oliver Carter
Oliver Carter

Is reylo canon now

Tyler Allen
Tyler Allen

No, but ReyRae is.

Anthony Watson
Anthony Watson

Blue Master Race

Julian Gutierrez
Julian Gutierrez

how are you getting this

Aaron Gomez
Aaron Gomez

This is the moment when you realize that all that prophecy shit that GL created for the PT is fucking meaningless. Even the creator didn't know how to explain it. GL said it was about finding balance between selflessness and selfishness, but then also said it was about destroying the Sith. So it is about balance AND destroying the dark side. Which are contradictory, but then he went on to say that the Sith are like cancer on the galaxyand need to be destroyed, but now there are dark side users, in control of a major military faction of the galaxy, he'll be on galactic domination, so does it really matter that they aren't specifically Sith? I'm sure LFL can commission 1001 books explaining the differene, but as far as the films are concerned is there REALLY a difference? Answer, no.

Samuel Johnson
Samuel Johnson

We already saw Anakin destroy the Emperor back in 1983, no prophecy needed.

Logan Cook
Logan Cook

The Chosen One prophecy was unneeded to tell the story. There was absolutely no reason why Vader finally seeing all the darkness he had created be personified in the murder of his own son and reject everything he had done to finally end his life with an act of unbiased love to be some"ancient prophesy that brings balance to the force" We already saw what happened back in 1983, we don't need it to be a prophesy.

Charles Myers
Charles Myers

There are fundamentally two ways to make a successful movie. Either make the film people want, or make the film people didn't know they wanted. Focus groups can only give you the former, true talent is needed for the latter.

Evan Lopez
Evan Lopez

https://youtu.be/f9Ys_4snP4Q

Jonathan Richardson
Jonathan Richardson

Kiss?!

Nicholas Gutierrez
Nicholas Gutierrez

Tails heads are just space niggers. There's nothing masterful about them.

Charles Morales
Charles Morales

Wtf. How does Hux keep getting dissed so hard? There's literally no way he hasn't got at least one page after appearing so much more in TLJ.

Liam Turner
Liam Turner

Maybe the leaks were true

Jaxon Richardson
Jaxon Richardson

Tails heads are just space niggers
more like the asians the women are cute and the men are ugly

Mason Carter
Mason Carter

Could this "leak" be real it mentions charcters not known till the guide book over a week before public release.
/tv/thread/90713016#p90713016

Nicholas Peterson
Nicholas Peterson

The creator of My Hero Academia did a promo art for TLJ

Joshua Flores
Joshua Flores

cum covered space sluts
cute

Zachary Barnes
Zachary Barnes

Jakku was already a desert before the Battle of Jakku

Asher Garcia
Asher Garcia

space pedo and mandofag team up

Joshua Stewart
Joshua Stewart

Rey is the super duper chosen one
Disney fags will defend this
disgusting

on /tv/

Ryder Hill
Ryder Hill

Sticc space muslim and Mando qt with rotten personalities but delicious flat chests teaming up for lewd femdom threeways or hot lezdom
Fixed that for yoi

Dylan Wood
Dylan Wood

user says he's filling some blanks there, I'm assuming the movie doesn't go into big detail about the Battle of Jakku. In that case user may have mistakenly thought the battle is the reason the planet is a desert, while their report on the movie would be reliable.

Aiden Price
Aiden Price

NEW

/co/thread/97335106#p97335106
/co/thread/97335106#p97335106
/co/thread/97335106#p97335106

Jackson Bailey
Jackson Bailey

that would make George proud

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