How does this make you feel, Sup Forums?

Joshua Young
Joshua Young

How does this make you feel, Sup Forums?

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https://twitter.com/ianjq/status/938834682728218624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5pR5ktDwts
Easton Gonzalez
Easton Gonzalez

that sound like someone's fetish

Leo Ross
Leo Ross

it's another twitterbait thread
Had it been 5 minutes already ?

Adam Sanders
Adam Sanders

Rad mouth looks like the USA country.

Brandon Nelson
Brandon Nelson

are they really that common?
I think that's the joke user

Juan Clark
Juan Clark

Cartoony cartoons are the worst.

Carson Wright
Carson Wright

I laughed.

Adam Sanchez
Adam Sanchez

Reminds me of that one member of the WOY staff that did way too many drawings of Wander and Sylvia with various grotesque mouth deformations for some reason.

Henry Collins
Henry Collins

I like the Texas tooth.

Nathan Anderson
Nathan Anderson

Much better than the CalArts mouth desu

Brandon Lee
Brandon Lee

it's either bean mouths or grotesquely detailed mouths, there's clearly no other option
Average modern cartoonist intelligence, everyone.

Michael Cox
Michael Cox

Makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside that a bunch of CalArts hacks on twitter got so assblasted by valid criticism of their lazy artstyle that they wasted time and effort making these "rebuttals."

John Lewis
John Lewis

All this did is make me realize how much I miss exaggerated expressions in cartoons

Camden Gonzalez
Camden Gonzalez

is it sad that i only really got mad at the united states mouth guy because michigan is missing

Isaiah Davis
Isaiah Davis

That is the worst fucking run I've seen in my life, that's what toddlers who just learned to walk run like.

Adrian Howard
Adrian Howard

I think it's funny that dumb Sup Forums memes are getting a reaction out of them.

Please stop harassing them on twitter, you jerkos.

Nathaniel Nguyen
Nathaniel Nguyen

>>97325872
inb4 someone posts the simba pic

Ethan Evans
Ethan Evans

>>97325872
He looks pretty busy.

Christian Richardson
Christian Richardson

>>97325872

Michael Reed
Michael Reed

Is this how the SoCal fire started?

Brayden Sanders
Brayden Sanders

none of those people went to calarts

Jose Rivera
Jose Rivera

posts deleted but thread still up
So was the guy just crazy or do mods and janitors actually allow these threads because they participate in them?

Luke Nelson
Luke Nelson

Did I just watch a man die?

Joshua Foster
Joshua Foster

nah dude probably got some bad burns but I doubt he'd be dead

Jaxson White
Jaxson White

pretty funny.

Gabriel Ross
Gabriel Ross

>>97325872
tfw we can get millions of Miguel shota lewds, yet barely any Mamá Imelda art
Is this even a life worth living?

Camden Robinson
Camden Robinson

I can smell the beta cuck scent from those Twitter posts.

Hunter Morales
Hunter Morales

I think that's the joke user

What is a joke?

Justin Reed
Justin Reed

I think it's a form of trolling. Call him a faggot just to be safe.

Benjamin Rivera
Benjamin Rivera

what did I miss?

Robert Mitchell
Robert Mitchell

It's just nature correcting her mistakes. If he ran like that in the wild he'd be tiger food before breakfast.

Easton Campbell
Easton Campbell

Some faggot posted gay porn by the sound of it

Sebastian Sullivan
Sebastian Sullivan

You know the kid from Coco? It was a bodypillow-style lewd with his quesadilla showing if you know what I mean.

Michael Torres
Michael Torres

There's no lewds period. Tumblr stalking and banning people for drawing cute boys ruined everything.
that captcha

Elijah Stewart
Elijah Stewart

dabs before running
deserved it desu

Jordan Davis
Jordan Davis

You're referring to Eddie Trigueros. I don't what his deal is; there's goofy, off-model, cartoony drawing and then there's full-on grotesque nightmare fuel. He's been working on the Paul Rudish Mickey Mouse Shorts since production on WOY ended and, sure enough, continues to make those same drawings with the Disney characters.

At least the guy has fun with his drawings, though. "The Hole... Lotta Nuthin'" was definitely one of the funniest WOY episodes.

Luke Bailey
Luke Bailey

"Bean mouths" are great you dumb-ass user!, just look at this hot piece of chicken I'm banging!

Cooper Watson
Cooper Watson

ay no!

Dominic Butler
Dominic Butler

I put your mum's bean in my mouth m8

Ryan Anderson
Ryan Anderson

His name is John K.

Jason Perez
Jason Perez

This is why there's fire walking, fire jumping, fire eating, and even fire breathing, there's no such thing as "fire mincing"

Chase Collins
Chase Collins

That's basically evolution, inferior beings die before they get to mate.

Angel Robinson
Angel Robinson

Nah, but there is one of a young man going to a racer car driver's aid and gets hit in the leg by a formula racer's front wing and is spun and stretched to death.

Christopher Martin
Christopher Martin

probably just a few burn and no more body hair. flames themselves aren't really that hot, and hot coal tend to cool down on contact. The main problem is probaly that his clothes could be on fire and inflict serious but local burn

Lucas Gray
Lucas Gray

take a style done since the 30's
give it a retarded trendy name
blame it on Flash, CalArts or the scapegoat of the day
you are now a connoisseur of cartoons

It's the "tumblr nose" shit all over again.

Brody Hall
Brody Hall

not more bean mouth
le minimalist design avatar

Gabriel Sullivan
Gabriel Sullivan

Can Bauhau's guy come over here? Seems like this is in his area of expertise.

Andrew Wood
Andrew Wood

Please no

Chase Rivera
Chase Rivera

what's a bauhaus?

Sebastian Williams
Sebastian Williams

Depends how long he's in there, people seem to think he's a retarded man and just not really drunk. A drunk guy isn't going to move very fast out of there and if he breathed in to scream his lungs are permafucked

Jonathan Bennett
Jonathan Bennett

overweight faggot with neckbeard who loves calart cancer

Like pottery

Benjamin Baker
Benjamin Baker

/tv/

Daniel Green
Daniel Green

he says while participating and bumping in a social media thread
Congratulations, you are the reason Sup Forums and /tv/ are now irrevocably intertwined

Nathan Martinez
Nathan Martinez

in the 30's that style was done by people with solid art backgrounds, and you can factually analyse their choices of composition, stylisation and color and everything is under perfect control.
Modern callart shit is a template colored and decorated by the feefee of the day, and there's no such thing as a sequence composition anymore, and even less color theory and all that art stuff. They want to shit that shit fast and in volume, no time to think, templates do everything.

Joseph Edwards
Joseph Edwards

I still like that more than the bean mouths.

Ian Reed
Ian Reed

Is this a fetish?

Alexander Taylor
Alexander Taylor

When will people realize that the "CalArts" style is just animation companies making things cheaper to animate because cartoons are not profitable anymore?

Jaxson Ross
Jaxson Ross

not liking Calarts

Pfff, weebs all of you.

Caleb Richardson
Caleb Richardson

It's a German minimalist art style from the early 20th century.
Some asshole is trying to make it into the next soyboy/cuck.

Aiden Wilson
Aiden Wilson

united states of america mouth
Okay, that got a chuckle out of me.

millions
I wish.

Camden Collins
Camden Collins

laughed at how hard this post is trying

Eli Lee
Eli Lee

It's good to show contempt for your audience, just ask Michael Bay.

Joseph Perez
Joseph Perez

both Toby and Owen went to MCAD, while Dave hails from the phillipines

Jonathan Jackson
Jonathan Jackson

truth is trying too hard

Luke Perry
Luke Perry

in the 30's that style was done by people with solid art backgrounds, and you can factually analyse their choices of composition, stylisation and color and everything is under perfect control.

They were also done before the economy going down to shit. Making one episode of Betty Bop would cost $1,700,000 per short nowadays
The fact those were done only once a year while featured as big movies, even if really short ,would also help in their overall quality

It's the "MODERN ART IS ALL SHIT!" ignorant argument again. The reason there's no Sistine Chapel nowadays it's not because of laziness, marxism or any other bullshit moralist argument, but mostly because there's no more Catholic Church willing to give out gold for artistic projects. The Chapel took 4 years to make, and even at that time the project almost got cancelled several times.

Nowadays ANY art project needs to guarantee at least twice of the initial investment, with usually a deadline that does not surpass one year, with the obligation of it being something big, long, or impressive for the general public.

Unless you are interested in freely giving millions for 5 minute shorts, your argument is a pretty flawed one.

Ethan Watson
Ethan Watson

The reason there's no Sistine Chapel nowadays it's not because of laziness, marxism or any other bullshit moralist argument, but mostly because that shit would get protested by leftists or blown up by muslims before it even finished

Fixed

Joseph Nguyen
Joseph Nguyen

technology becomes more advanced
quality goes down

If anyone is a sophist it's you. You can pretty readily create cartoons that at least resemble the quality of older ones, it's just cheaper to pay pennies for your animation. Kids and neckbeards will gobble up literally anything so why not do the bare minimum?

Justin Rogers
Justin Rogers

if theres bean mouth in ok ko i dont notice it, desu i notice the opposite
usa mouth was funny
anyone that actually gives a shit about the bean mouth menace is a humongous faggot and deserves to be made fun of like this

Samuel Cook
Samuel Cook

/pol/

Jaxon Torres
Jaxon Torres

Yes, I want to see a cartoon, many cartoons like this and they need to be funded yesterday. The more nuts the better, otherwise why bother with animation?

Isaac Brown
Isaac Brown

he thinks I'm wrong

Look at what happened in response to one tweet. If anybody anywhere tried to make another Sistine Chapel it would be bombed before it even finished the foundation.

Tyler Cooper
Tyler Cooper

no really this is the truth i actually know how all of this works
laughed even harder

Jack Jenkins
Jack Jenkins

Made me laugh. fa/co/ts blown out of the fuck.

Henry Allen
Henry Allen

What was it?

Bentley Williams
Bentley Williams

You can pretty readily create cartoons that at least resemble the quality of older ones
readily? Certainly not. computers won't draw those in-between like they do for paper doll flash shit.

Brandon Jackson
Brandon Jackson

a monkey unable to rad make noise because he can't get educated
well, it's typical, but you lost that one really hard.

Jack Thompson
Jack Thompson

It's funny because I never mentioned technology. You are the one putting that on my mouth.

My argument is about demands and investments.

I'm still waiting for you to give any solution besides "THEY MUST".

Where the fuck animators should find mountains of money besides company investments?

No one wants to give millions for shorts anymore, mostly because they do not return the investments.

Studio Trigger making of for 'Little Witch Academia" explains it pretty clear. Besides the fear of digital animation making artists more spoiled or lowing down the quality of works, it actually works as the inverse as well. Making incredible elaborated scenes is no longer THAT expansive anymore, and can get incorporated inside weekly shows again

Something that, besides strawman and memes, a great deal of modern cartoons proved. From Steven Universe to Adventure Time

inb4 idiots confusing off-model scenes to bad animation

Juan Price
Juan Price

"a monkey unable to rad"
sides exploding

Julian White
Julian White

I'm not /pol/, seriously
LE HAPPENING news

Yeah, right, Whatever you say, Drumpft.

Dominic Ross
Dominic Ross

My argument is about demands and investments.

Kids and neckbeards will gobble up literally anything so why not do the bare minimum?

Ian Howard
Ian Howard

shota porn

Oliver Anderson
Oliver Anderson

The Pope requested me to make a 12 foot tall statue of the devil and put it at my local part, he said it was OK because I did it for love.

Ayden Martinez
Ayden Martinez

Only the upper peninsula is missing, but that's okay because the "Deep North" is just as awful as the "Deep South". I dated a yooper in college and dumped her after she told me she got blackout drunk with her cousin and woke up and an STD

Leo Thompson
Leo Thompson

Kids and neckbeards
as opposed to me, the true appreciator of the finest cartoons

Lucas Rivera
Lucas Rivera

America Mouth is God damn brilliant and I will brook no arguments.

Aiden Price
Aiden Price

Why should I care that a bunch of hacks got rumbly tummies over twitter bantz?

Nicholas Robinson
Nicholas Robinson

what is Milo Murphy's Law, Future-Worm!, The Loud House, Wander Over Yonder, Uncle Grandpa, etc.

Jaxon Long
Jaxon Long

You know, I get they're basically defending drawing what they like, and they're just joking around, but I still feel like its disingenuous. You don't have to flip between completely inoffensive worm bandaid mouths and John K, there's a whole bunch of ways to draw mouths. It actually bugged me enough to go make some simplistic alternatives to mouths, lots of good symbol drawings of them I've seen and a couple I use a lot in my own art, and I think I see the problem.

They don't draw lips. Like, I think that's why everyone apes the steven universe lips. Maybe they just don't really do it a lot because lips are annoying to animate compared to simple lines? Or because they don't fit with more simple graphic art styles (though I think it can still work with simple squared off M shape lips.)

Is it just me noticing this? Am I just not in on whatever art school reason they have to focus so much on giving everyone really big glasgow grins?

Samuel Jones
Samuel Jones

Reminds me of how Dobson likes to deflect critism.

Sebastian Clark
Sebastian Clark

lol look at these butthurt faggots

Dylan Taylor
Dylan Taylor

/co/ learns most cartoonists arent any more dignified than Son of Dob

Chase Gomez
Chase Gomez

I don't get why people like to make simpler design, they only have to draw the same thing thousands of times, I can't see the big deal

Joseph Baker
Joseph Baker

Are these just fans or are have they actually worked on these cartoons.

Ryder Wilson
Ryder Wilson

But they're doing that for the whole thing anyway, wouldn't it pay off to make it look nicer from the get go anyway? Besides, some of those mouths are just lines, one of them's a rectangle (though to me fair I don't think they try to not draw more angular mouths). Get rid of some of the tangents and half of these could be made on the same budget.

Another thing I noticed is that the cartoons that use those more circular mouths tend to overenunciate the lip sync, and it's not very good since it comes off mechanical once you notice it. If they recycled some vowels together, it'd lower production time, it'd make dubbing easier, and generally cost a lot less while looking more believable, I mean that's pretty much why anime gets away with mouth flaps as much as it does.

I dunno what to tell you man, if you're gonna ask why bother making the mouth look good because its hard, why even bother making a cartoon at all? The whole thing is hard, so why not make the effort worth it, you know?

Angel Diaz
Angel Diaz

if you look at how hard it is for animators to stay on model with designs as simple as they now are, im not surprised dummies even in this thread make the excuse that lips and facial features make animation take way longer and be harder to scale.

The real answer I think is that character design in childrens cartoons is more about color and motion than it is about shape and detail, as the latter are provably more difficult for children to define or remember. You have to remember that these are childrens cartoons that maintain a niche audience. They may care about animation for the sake of animation to some degree, but from the top down, the purpose of the shows they produce is to be consumed by children with childish tastes in media. There are outliers and examples of writers/cartoonists doing weird stuff, but whether an original design is even considered for a show at all depends on whether in tests well with [actual kids], [investors who want good returns], but not the vocal minority who care about animation, or even the animators themselves.

Xavier Scott
Xavier Scott

takes out cross
John K get out of this house!

Michael Russell
Michael Russell

yooper
I googled that and now feel a deep sense of shame. Why the hell would anyone ver be proud to be from the most forgotten region of the US?

Charles Stewart
Charles Stewart

typical unfunny cartoonist response to cover the butthurt.

Josiah Walker
Josiah Walker

Fair enough. Still, if that's the case I really wish the showrunners were more honest about it being more of a time constraint thing and not feel the need to passively aggressively imply that anything deviating from it is grotesque.

Andrew Watson
Andrew Watson

No he got dark souled

Nathan Collins
Nathan Collins

You're a fucking idiot.

Jason Perez
Jason Perez

see

Luke Bailey
Luke Bailey

You're a fucking idiot.

Nicholas Phillips
Nicholas Phillips

still not going to change their degrees out of california

David Wilson
David Wilson

these arent showrunners, they're peons, shitposting nobodies.

nobody but autistic fandom members pay any attention to them.

Jason Rodriguez
Jason Rodriguez

I'm usually pretty sympathetic to the board artists on these shows and I feel like a lot of people here just like getting angry and blaming things that are outside their control on the artists. And a lot of people here I think can be pretty reductive when talking about art design in cartoons and stuff...but if these guys are reacting to the critic who I think they're reacting to...they're really just being babies. The guy mildly criticized bean mouths and said that they ultimately just weren't to his preference. They need to relax.

Ryder Phillips
Ryder Phillips

i don't think it's got anything to do with lips, although i agree with your points re: expressiveness

feels like the ok ko guys are just heckling from the sidelines. i don't see these posts as disingenuous or defensive, because ok ko has plenty of variety as far as expressions/mouths/shapes go, regardless of whether or not it's your jams. (dunno about the infinity train guy's stakes tho)

all they're doing is dunking on people that are extrapolating their personal preferences not being met to The Decline Of Modern Animation. whether it's funny or in good taste is your call tho, america mouth got a chuckle out of me

Daniel Davis
Daniel Davis

Even John K. would tell them to tone it down.

Jackson Rivera
Jackson Rivera

At least somebody in TTG is.

Caleb Moore
Caleb Moore

ITT:

Jeremiah Bennett
Jeremiah Bennett

Not saying it's hard, only that it means more work
Don't know if you ever worked on animation, or ever had the curiosity to look it up how it works , so I'm gonna explain it.
Every character has one specific animator, and every animator must do all panels and moves of that character on the episode/movie til the deadline. Simple things like freckles, glasses, clothes etc means A LOT of more work at the big pile of papers you have to animate frame by frame.
Some key scenes requires so much that they have special teams to only work on that sequence. Something that, of course, can take months and inflate the budget.
For that reason a simple design is animation 101.
You can do a very fancy scene if you want it, but making ridiculously detailed characters only will make it twice as hard to animate it.
A big example is "The Thief and the Cobbler" that have ridiculously detailed sequences, but every character is pretty simple in concept.

James Gonzalez
James Gonzalez

I've animated. I read your post and a lot of it seems out of date with modern animation practices considering that the predominant animation group isn't done inhouse for most studios anymore and storyboards are divided amongst lots of different people. That's a whole other can of worms. But my point is I get it, extraneous details are hard to keep track of. Most of the mouths I drew would probably just have the tooth lines removed outright in an actual serious production on a deadline. I agree that a simplified design is best for animation, but that doesn't mean throwing the baby out with the bath water and going for minimalism is the go to choice. It isn't even always aesthetically pleasant, characters who make big toothy grins don't necessarily look great and small details like just drawing an extra space on either side of their teeth to give the impression that they have a normal set of teeth, or an extra line on extreme expressions to show, I dunno, a bit of facial muscle or even just a smidgen of a cheekline would make it a lot more presentable, occasional use of the upper lip. Those aren't the kind of details that stop a production dead. To be fair I've seen boards where they expressly make those details the point of the drawing. So why the pretense? They'd make it more detailed if they could, but they're on a short time leash because they're working on a kids cartoon and the producers are telling them to just get it done because kids don't care about those details.

Mason Evans
Mason Evans

runs like a faggot
hope that fire did more than just burn him

Tyler Cook
Tyler Cook

Sounds fucking stupid and irrelevant nonsense!

Jonathan Morgan
Jonathan Morgan

fuck you Tom Kenny

Lucas Phillips
Lucas Phillips

He thinks I'm tom kenny

Aw cute. Thank you!

Jackson Morgan
Jackson Morgan

I thought the webm was in slow motion for a second

Joshua Diaz
Joshua Diaz

I like how butthurt they are that they go hyperbolic on the issue.
Does anyone even buy this kind of crap?
It's a terrible way of arguing anything.
Something like
People should watch what they eat, there's too much of an obesity issue in America.
Being responded with
You want people to be anorexic! Clearly you are wrong.

Owen Nguyen
Owen Nguyen

Owen dennis is in no position to complain about this, his cartoon hast the worst artstyle of the decade along with summer camp island, and that's saying a lot considering we live in the era where shit like steven universe and rick and morty are considered passable art

Josiah Cruz
Josiah Cruz

stop being a wiseass, uncle

Joshua Sanders
Joshua Sanders

try harder.

Dylan Ward
Dylan Ward

the one on the right

I had a nightmare like that once. where my gums just peeled out of my mouth like that with my teeth still stuck in them.

Jack Howard
Jack Howard

pointing out typos is an argument
Back to plebbit underage retard

Brayden Cook
Brayden Cook

slightly off topic but genuine question, is there any comic or cartoon that takes advantage of it's style and has each character have a mouth that fits to how they're drawn kinda like in this Like a round soft character has a bean mouth while a tall sharp character has a narrow sharp mouth for example?

Brody Allen
Brody Allen

Maybe but probably not.
Hospital for a while though.

Jonathan Hall
Jonathan Hall

cartoonists can literally do anything and the internet will still bitch at them, look at all the people in the thread calling screaming "butthurt" and "can't take criticism" even though not a single shitposter works for a living

i imagine engaging your audience or simply remembering they exist gets pretty fucking annoying

Angel Campbell
Angel Campbell

At lest it's not Bauhaus

Carter Ortiz
Carter Ortiz

you no like thing?
well here's here's the polar exact opposite of thing to a gross exaggerated degree!
me am right!!!!

Liam Roberts
Liam Roberts

funny, because everyone at cal arts is a weeb themselves considering how much they have guest japanese animators.

Adam Perez
Adam Perez

underrated post.

Gavin Hall
Gavin Hall

it costs 0 dollars to draw better faces

Samuel Edwards
Samuel Edwards

wtf i hate bauhaus now

Dylan Harris
Dylan Harris

From Steven Universe to Adventure Time
pfft hahahahaha
HAHAHAHAAH

James Jackson
James Jackson

If better means more detailed it actually does, in animation at least. Every single drawing of a character takes times, and the more detail that is in it the more time it's going to take. The more time it takes to create something the longer you have to pay the artist, or the more artists you gotta pay.

Henry King
Henry King

These responses are dismissive, evasive, and cliquish. But people who obsess over something like bean mouths are missing the bigger picture, which is that we have a glut of comedy cartoons that would not noticeably benefit from more fully realized designs as they rarely employ dramatic cinematography or dynamic action sequences. It' wasted effort.

Aaron Stewart
Aaron Stewart

mise-en-sène is a fancy term for something that takes 3 lines to explain without using the proper word! Stop being pretentious ok
I hate modern anti-intellectualism.

Caleb Peterson
Caleb Peterson

it's a "I agree BUT" fallacy episode

Elijah Edwards
Elijah Edwards

dabs
that outfit
that prance

Ian Wood
Ian Wood

dabs
fucking faggot die in a f-
dies in a fire
oh

Hunter Scott
Hunter Scott

I wonder if people back then knew that Adventure Time would ruin cartoons forever

Gavin Edwards
Gavin Edwards

Enid looks like she's out from Tiny Toons.

kek

Gabriel Davis
Gabriel Davis

I wonder if people back then knew Hanna-Barbera would ruin cartoons forever

Dylan Morales
Dylan Morales

That's not the point. They have that lazy style and the double down on their shittiness.

Jaxson Turner
Jaxson Turner

Jabberjaw is based af

Hudson Ortiz
Hudson Ortiz

Millions of shota lewds.
Boy, I wish.

Jordan Rodriguez
Jordan Rodriguez

It is butthurt. They could give an explanation why this style is ok. But nooooo they they try to distract with bullshit.

Michael Carter
Michael Carter

jerkos
Well that's a little harsh user, who spit in your cunt?

Blake Carter
Blake Carter

CartoonBrew pls leave

Austin Brooks
Austin Brooks

They knew, be it HB or the animators themselves. but TV channels kept ordering more and more shows on that specific formula and style so they didn't have much choice.

Charles Gonzalez
Charles Gonzalez

cartoonists can literally do anything
Well no matter how they "can" they certainly don't. And you don't see people reacting badly when they just provide art without bitching about their fans or drumpfs or the price of avocados.

Carson Bailey
Carson Bailey

What's wrong with the price of avocados?

Mason Hill
Mason Hill

Yes. I've known cute girls with this fetish, I'm not joking. Dental mutilation is a for real fetish.

William Howard
William Howard

Bean mouth animators are either babies like Hirsch/OP tweets, or degenerates like Savino and Sugar.

Elijah Clark
Elijah Clark

16 seasons, now. And it's Fox's second longest running series behind the Simpsons. That post makes me feel old as shit.

Probably nothing. But I've found people from flyover states or the East coast seem to think avocados are somehow some big wig fancy rich liberal person thing on the West coast when we all eat them because avocado is good on shit and it's cheap as fuck over here. He might've also just been pulling fruit out of his ass.

Lucas Thompson
Lucas Thompson

this is the dumbest thing ive seen in a while and its shameful to post this

"artists" without enough imagination to not draw rounded piano key mouths

Brayden Long
Brayden Long

Avocados are a meme now because when El Presidente won, the price of avocados went up
Get with the times, old man

Also it's pretty rude to call them fly over states, it's one of the reasons trump won

Kayden Evans
Kayden Evans

i'm from the UP and it is fucking awful but at least i have a decent paying job in my field. most people not from here seem to think it's apart of wisconsin or canada so it's w/e it's forgotten

Nicholas Moore
Nicholas Moore

one of the reasons trump won
Trump won because presidential elections have had a nearly random distribution of votes the past few decades. People spend so much time and money on promoting themselves, but it all ends up with nearly statistically insignificant advantage to one side or the other.

A counting error could have easily swayed the Bush/Gore election (who says it didn't?) and a similar error could have easily swayed the Trump/Clinton election (who says it didn't?)

The only president in recent years that won in a statistically significant way is Obama.

Jaxon Martinez
Jaxon Martinez

Rounded cartoon mouths remind me a lot of early Dragonball, but without the subtle line weight variations that gives them depth.

It's a bit disingenuous to imply that oversimplification or complete grotesquerie are our only options, or to chalk up design failures to technical or budgetary limitations.

Grayson Peterson
Grayson Peterson

subtle line weight variations that gives them depth
There's no subtle line weight variation you retard. The depth comes from the Donkey Kong teeth they got going on.

Landon Smith
Landon Smith

your picture doesn't exist I refuse you to see it you must follow my orders NOW
wow fanatical much?

Kevin Butler
Kevin Butler

Not only do I not deny that, I've been telling people that for almost a year. But that doesn't make them not fly over states. They should have voices and they are a larger group with more power than people realize, they are the industrious midwest. But by definition, they're still fly over states.

Ryan Bennett
Ryan Bennett

If you're trying to be funny then it was somewhat amusing, if you're trying to be serious then you're a moron.

Alexander Adams
Alexander Adams

Broken and implied lines are line weight variations.

Carter Bennett
Carter Bennett

What are you even trying to say?

Landon Garcia
Landon Garcia

It was an interesting way to draw lips when it was rare, but now that it's everywhere the novelty has worn off and they look like disgusting swollen meat flaps.

Zachary Mitchell
Zachary Mitchell

As an odontophilliac, I approve greatly. People need to draw individual teeth more. Big chunky teeth.

Jaxson Young
Jaxson Young

The only president in recent years that won in a statistically significant way is Obama.
SEE IT'S ONLY AN ERRROR WHEN A REPUBLICAN WON

whatever you say soyboy

Mason Reyes
Mason Reyes

These guys got legitimately worked into a shoot.

Aiden Garcia
Aiden Garcia

Anyone sick of flat, simple "bean mouths"? Well, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DRAW!!
Me neither!
I never learned to draw!!
It all looks like shit!!
Is this the cum mug of animators?

Juan Cooper
Juan Cooper

so do you still have nightmares where your teeth are falling out or..?

Jordan Nguyen
Jordan Nguyen

ITT: people who can't take jokes and think this is a serious suggestion

Parker Collins
Parker Collins

Not really. A broken line doesn't have "line weight variation", it's a single-weight line that's been broken.

BUT even if we adopt this as what meant, the broken lines do not create depth in pic related. The teeth structure does. Erase the teeth, it's an amorphous anime mouth like the rest of them.

By the way, championing Dragonball of all things as an art style with depth is retarded, but even if Dragonball was a bastion of naturalistic art, those mouth lines sure as hell don't have depth or weight variation.

Christian Reyes
Christian Reyes

The first line you greentexted does not imply the second line you greentexted.

William Hughes
William Hughes

people who can't take jokes

Nonsense, there are no calart animators in this thread.

Julian Thompson
Julian Thompson

Not realizing there are many other ways to draw mouths

I hate it when Japan's animation industry is glorified, but at least they put fucking effort into their niche merchandise-bait garbage. Better that instead of half-assing everything and whine about it on twitter when people dare call them lazy Ian.

The SU and OKKO crews have got to be the most defensive cartoon development teams I've ever seen.

Caleb Foster
Caleb Foster

being THIS insecure that you literally can't draw

Good cartoons will RISE AGAIN

Jonathan Johnson
Jonathan Johnson

topest of keksw

Liam Rogers
Liam Rogers

Daily reminder that there's no point watching American """cartoons""".

Joshua Martinez
Joshua Martinez

Modern ones anyway, i've beeneorking on that backlog.

Brody Davis
Brody Davis

Two terms.

Nolan Carter
Nolan Carter

10/10

Camden Roberts
Camden Roberts

FUCKING KEK

Julian Taylor
Julian Taylor

legitimately more cartoony and fun.

takes ya right back to the 90s

Mason Wright
Mason Wright

Hold the Fuck Up who says expression comes from the mouth. Any retard knows it's all in the eyes

Jose Bennett
Jose Bennett

Americans don't think so. they prefer to spen millions on lip sink instead of havin geyes being more than a set of 4 emotions that are mostly just about closing the eye lids.

Camden Long
Camden Long

The Chan Clan
I'm sorry what?

Justin Hall
Justin Hall

es joke

Cameron Gonzalez
Cameron Gonzalez

Did he just drop a load in his pants or something?

Connor Brooks
Connor Brooks

Do you retards actually think that running properly would make you faster than a tiger?

Logan Jackson
Logan Jackson

That's the joke.jpg

John Rivera
John Rivera

What other shape mouths would anybody here recommend? Examples I'm interested in seeing what some people think isn't lazy art.

John Cruz
John Cruz

make you faster than a tiger
No, it makes you faster than the guy who can't run properly.

Nathaniel Diaz
Nathaniel Diaz

Anything you want? The point is that using one shape all the time is bad.

Anime is supremely inbred in that respect, and American cartoons will get there (they'll all look like The Simpsons or Family Guy) if, like anime, people will keep copying other styles instead of doing studies of life drawings.

Evan Morales
Evan Morales

That only works if you were hanging out with that guy in the first place.

Nathaniel Brooks
Nathaniel Brooks

is this a simpsons reference?

Ayden Perry
Ayden Perry

Mincing twat gets incinerated
Beautiful

Juan Lee
Juan Lee

Unironically kys

Asher Russell
Asher Russell

You do realize the Jerusalem thing is more of a nationalism issue with religion incorporated into it right?

Lincoln Clark
Lincoln Clark

it was the largest electoral landslide since Reagan. It would have to be like, 30 separate errors all in his favor

Gavin Gonzalez
Gavin Gonzalez

okay but what is actually the point of making more detailed and complex mouth animations?

Elijah Perry
Elijah Perry

This.

The tiger catches the slower guy and eats him, you'll be able to run away while that happens (or spear him from the distance while it is busy eating).

Jackson White
Jackson White

it's really not that hard, calarts should stop being afraid of sharp angles

Elijah Williams
Elijah Williams

What happened in the early 90's to change animation into the small golden age it was in post HB and Filmation? Was it the Japs? Creative freedom? John K?

Wyatt Sanchez
Wyatt Sanchez

is this vore

Henry Gray
Henry Gray

it was who framed roger rabbit

Alexander Ramirez
Alexander Ramirez

Nice buzzwords.

Chase James
Chase James

So we need another Live Action animation hybrid with some berg backing it.

Is Richard Williams still kicking?

Lucas Thompson
Lucas Thompson

This thread is pretty butthurt.

Robert Foster
Robert Foster

Wow that shit is nasty. Does he think it looks funny or does he just jack off to it?

Isaiah Gutierrez
Isaiah Gutierrez

Is it weird that I like those better? They look funny.

Zachary Gray
Zachary Gray

I'm sorry you had to see that, user.
I'm also happy that you know it's not normal, so pure.
Let's hope he's ok.

Evan Howard
Evan Howard

How is that any better than bean mouth though?
If all mouths looked like that, Sup Forums would still bitch.

Jonathan Bell
Jonathan Bell

Looks a lot better, teebeeaych

Julian Peterson
Julian Peterson

killing me won't bring back your honey!

Thomas Phillips
Thomas Phillips

We just want variety. The imbred style of post Flapjack/Adventure Time animation is so sameface, it's tiring. Give me some depth, some stretch, some expression.

Carter Torres
Carter Torres

mfw Sup Forums can dish it out but can't take it

Joseph Bailey
Joseph Bailey

We just want variety
No you just want to bitch.
People complain everything looking the same but when someone does come up with something different you write it off as cheap and ugly.
Sup Forums is never happy.

Benjamin Jenkins
Benjamin Jenkins

it's ANOTHER episode where someone complains about something and people respond with the thing they wanted except exaggerated to an overkill degree

I hate calling fallacy but this is one of the most basic fucking ones to commit oh my lord

Brody Collins
Brody Collins

There is no same face it's just minimalistic so it looks like the same face when in reality it just isn't detailed at all

Isaiah Ward
Isaiah Ward

You know what's funny? These calfucks drew those as a stab-back at those who criticize the "bean" heads, but I actually like those "stab-backs" more than the "beans". No, seriously, I write this with no irony, I look at those new designs, imagine the shows with those designs and I get slight Ren & Stimpy vibes. They really should go with those designs, the shows would just get an extra layer of comedy through the expressions that the characters could make.

James Ross
James Ross

It just seems like some animators joking around with each other.
What is it with Sup Forums getting outraged at everything?

Jason Gomez
Jason Gomez

I write this with no irony
You’re an idiot.

Lucas Young
Lucas Young

Not everyone on Sup Forums is the same, and the new stuff generally DOES look ugly.

Even old properties like Hey Arnold The Jungle Movie look wrong.

Alexander Miller
Alexander Miller

they're such fucking weenies

Isaiah Ross
Isaiah Ross

Joking around makes you a baby.
Drawing porn makes you a degenerate

Aaron Stewart
Aaron Stewart

The general consensus here seems to be they're an improvement.

Hudson Cook
Hudson Cook

I saw that. now that was fucking terrifying. that's shit that should only happen in cartoons.

Lincoln Cooper
Lincoln Cooper

Sup Forums isn’t much better at not being weenies.

Camden Gonzalez
Camden Gonzalez

Well if that’s the case then I see things going two ways;
1. Give up on drawing completely because you’ll never find a way to please everyone.
2. Draw whatever you want and fuck everyone else.

Robert James
Robert James

y.y.you too!
Jesus cry more you little spineless bitch.

Logan Kelly
Logan Kelly

And you have no joy in life.

Benjamin Davis
Benjamin Davis

You're trying to make "drawing the same way as literally everybody else" sound like rebellious spirit.

I just want to see these guys attempt 10 second segments from Tom and Jerry or Looney Tunes and see how they fare.

Evan Reyes
Evan Reyes

"wow these professionals sure are acting immaturely in a public setting"
"uh yeah but Sup Forums are also immature"

thats such an irrelevant and desperate thing to say I have to believe you're actually a part of the OK KO staff

Juan Cox
Juan Cox

Last time I went to the UP it was pretty great, user. People there are very genuinely nice and it's beautiful.

Luis White
Luis White

I saw the thumbnail and assumed that it was Pelo.

Adrian Howard
Adrian Howard

"haha! Take that! I bet you think THIS looks better!"
"It does look better."
"FUCKING WEENIES!"

Benjamin Wilson
Benjamin Wilson

I don't have to.
Everyone here is crying more that some mediocre animators made fun of their "criticism".
Outrage culture was a mistake.

Jonathan Cox
Jonathan Cox

because, fuck that a medium we love is dying, right? At least those artists stuck it to the SHITLORDS!

Jose Jones
Jose Jones

cartoons are 100% comedy
found the normie

Christopher Perez
Christopher Perez

In trying to mock the criticism, they made something that was an improvement.

Matthew Rogers
Matthew Rogers

See, this sums up my problem with this whole thread.
People call this post immature and unprofessional but is it really? If this post had the artists draw a retarded baby shitted diapers and labeled it "Critics" then yeah fuck them. But this? It comes off as more like them taking the piss out of themselves.

Bentley Cook
Bentley Cook

Oh right, your third world assembly line optimized designs to maximize profits really add an extra layer of dimensionality to your work. Any additional details would turn your serious animation into kiddie filth.

Christian Powell
Christian Powell

Not really?
Those characters look like they're in pain.

Isaiah Peterson
Isaiah Peterson

because, fuck that a medium we love is dying, right?
being this hyperbolic

Logan Cooper
Logan Cooper

Yes really?

It's extremely expressive; most definitely in comparison to the previous style.

Charles Thompson
Charles Thompson

Pain is funny :)

Chase Foster
Chase Foster

When TTG calls out it's critics it's considered based and is "sticking it to the crybabies".
How is this different?

Charles Ramirez
Charles Ramirez

absolutely. its some Ed Roth shit.
is that supposed to be bad? cause its near awesome..

David Clark
David Clark

Does extremely expressive translate to appealing, fitting the general and feasible to animate?
I can make my drawings as extremely detailed; it won't make jack shit unless I can actually translate it into animation.

Kayden Bailey
Kayden Bailey

The audacity of this nigger.

Theatrical 2D animation is dead
Any interesting artstyle is completely flash
Television Networks (aside from AS) completely dropping the ball with scheduling and variety
Subtracting flash and CG, nearly everything for 10 years has been nearly the same level of detail and immensely similar artstyles

Cartoons have been fucked for almost a decade man, i'm aloud to be a little pissed one some tumblrites ruining toons start acting snarky like effort is comical.

Jose Clark
Jose Clark

No it isn't? Dude chill, if you're that upset about what we said just make a funny twitter doodle about it

Ryder Taylor
Ryder Taylor

my hivemind memes are valid criticism.

Sure they are, kiddo.

Alexander Robinson
Alexander Robinson

Exactly this.

Robert White
Robert White

My nigga

Tyler Rogers
Tyler Rogers

hivemind

I bet you don't see the irony of this post, Rebecca.

Lucas Murphy
Lucas Murphy

Drawings and animation are different things.
Ed Roth's art can never truly be recreated in animation faithfully unless you have money and talent to burn.

Jack Nguyen
Jack Nguyen

meanwhile season 2 was confirmed
https://twitter.com/ianjq/status/938834682728218624
hope you guys enjoy the beans :^)

Thomas Cooper
Thomas Cooper

When TTG calls out it's critics it's considered based and is "sticking it to the crybabies".
Who mentioned or said that in this thread?

Or this conversation, for that matter?
I'm not seeing anyone saying that and you're trying to find some sort of "tu quoque" is fallacious deflection.

Easton Phillips
Easton Phillips

But they did, it was called ren and stimpy.

Brody Gray
Brody Gray

Eli aside:

Talent, sure, but how different are the budgets for todays toons and the average toon in 1997?

Jaxon Scott
Jaxon Scott

What about Secret Mountain Fort Awesome?

That came close, imho.

Ayden Rivera
Ayden Rivera

Well... some people do have talent and money to burn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5pR5ktDwts

Hunter Gray
Hunter Gray

Does extremely expressive translate to appealing,
Not necessarily, no.

fitting the general
Perhaps the general needs to improve as well.

feasible to animate?
today's technology should make what was much harder 20 or 30 years ago much easier.
As much as I prefer traditional styles, I'll admit that modern techniques mean that more detail can be made with much less effort than previous generation.

Jaxson Perry
Jaxson Perry

Secret Mountain Fort Awesome
Ian was a boarder on this show
Really makes you think

Hudson Flores
Hudson Flores

Oh, yeah, it's pretty and the folks are generally nice, there's just not a whole hell of a lot here for living esp. if you're kind of sick of nature. I'm living in the town I grew up in, and it's the same 2000 or so people with the closest """" city"""" being close to 1.5 hours of driving away, more in the winter. I could see how it would be a great place if you're just visiting, as long as you don't go deep into the woods and accidentally find a meth lab.

Jacob Robinson
Jacob Robinson

"The sun sucks."
This line always gets me.

Nathaniel Sanchez
Nathaniel Sanchez

But OK KO does draws mouths like that...

Dylan Lopez
Dylan Lopez

So you're passionate about animation to get pissy about it but not enough to actually do anything about it.

Parker Cooper
Parker Cooper

As the bean meme goes, i'm actually OK with OKKO, it has more flexibility from cut to cut and cool choices with the animation. I'm not upset about this.

Jaxson James
Jaxson James

Yeah, it's a great place to visit but I'm not sure if I would wanna live there. MAYBE Marquette but the winters there are pretty brutal.

Evan Roberts
Evan Roberts

today's technology should make what was much harder 20 or 30 years ago much easier.
Technology was never the problem.
Budget is.

Michael Reed
Michael Reed

You only need to be faster than the slowest guy.

Hudson Collins
Hudson Collins

Then what's his excuse?

Cameron Nguyen
Cameron Nguyen

DarkSoulsEnding.webm

Owen Cooper
Owen Cooper

Well again, it shouldn't cost more to use technology that's now cheaper, yeah?

Jackson Gonzalez
Jackson Gonzalez

if all mouths looked like that
You're missing the point then.
All characters and shows shouldn't look the same, and they don't have while still being simple and cheap

Gavin Cox
Gavin Cox

America was more financially sound back in the 90s.

Josiah Sanders
Josiah Sanders

I buy what I can on the off chance something beneficial comes out (Samurai Jack Season 5 Amazon day one purchase)
I've been learning how to draw myself, shits hard but i've been pushing myself for around a year. Not where I want to be but i'm not jumping off at the easy point.
I've purchased a mic and am currently in the process of becoming a content creator on youtube vocalizing these opinions and complaints

I'm doing all I can you asshole, stop defending this filth.

Ayden Perry
Ayden Perry

Cartoon Network studios is bigger now than it ever was with a larger capital.

Brandon Price
Brandon Price

OK, but that doesn't mean dick. It's been so many years since 08, they had to have stabilized to a point, where is the attempt at progression? Do we have any hard numbers?

My guess is it's some commie union shit stifling the budget.

Dominic Hill
Dominic Hill

inflation

Jack Brown
Jack Brown

But technology isn't more cheaper.
Especially considering the economy isn't the same.

Nolan Edwards
Nolan Edwards

no you just want to bitch
Said who?
people complain about something being cheap and ugly
"i want more than corn everyday"
"Here have these burnt toenails"
"But I dont want that"
"See nothing will make you happy"
This is logic not even a child would think is reasonable.

Ryder Brown
Ryder Brown

Give me numbers or stop talking you apologist. My business isn't to line the pockets of cartoon executives, my business is to demand excellence in my product.

Jason Powell
Jason Powell

OK KO actually has flexibility in scene composition and character design

Austin Howard
Austin Howard

Woah, slow down Porky, you didn't even establish this with a setup or introduction to your character. How do you expect people to buy into your LARP if you just throw them right in the middle of it?

William Reyes
William Reyes

Depends on how funny the execution is. "Get Serious" was an entire episode, took effort, and was actually pretty funny. This is just some scribbles on twitter.

Christian Jones
Christian Jones

I'm doing all I can you asshole, stop defending this filth.
You realize none of this will actually help the industry right?
While people continue to achieve their dreams in animation, you'll be sitting around being bitter, ranting on your little YT channel and telling other people to stop enjoying things. You'll be no better than John K.

Evan James
Evan James

First off, fuck off to leftypol

Secondly, how am I porky if I exercise my fundemental right as a consumer in a capitalist society? I demand the right to a product that I can enjoy, enough is enough, the transition to digital isn't a good excuse anymore, the recession isn't a good excuse anymore. It's obvious these sameface mills called "artschools" are churning out lowest common denominator shit out of profit maximization, not necessity to scrape by.

Cooper Rodriguez
Cooper Rodriguez

This is just some scribbles on twitter.
This is why I'm not getting all the rage in this thread.
It's not worth it to get steamed over drawings everyone will forget about by tomorrow.

Asher Baker
Asher Baker

Looking through some more screencaps, I'm beginning to doubt that user even watches the show

Christian Davis
Christian Davis

"Was actually pretty funny" is the vital difference.

Of course now OK KO Defense Force Samefag is gonna start on a "humor is objective" rant because he needs an excuse for why people don't think it's funny too.

Thomas Ramirez
Thomas Ramirez

people complain about something being cheap and ugly
"i want more than corn everyday"
"Here have these burnt toenails"
"But I dont want that"
"See nothing will make you happy"
The absolute mental gymnastics in this post.

Jaxson Bell
Jaxson Bell

Of course now OK KO Defense Force Samefag is gonna start on a "humor is objective" rant because he needs an excuse for why people don't think it's funny too.
Is it time to roll out "le defense force meme" already?

Caleb Brooks
Caleb Brooks

It makes me feel that the bean mouth bait .gif really chapped their asses.

Robert James
Robert James

god, i miss wander over yonder

Dominic Nelson
Dominic Nelson

So what am I supposed to do, O beacon of wisdom? Get Weinstiened by some animation executive to get a pilot? Sit and do nothing while the memory of what I love fades into darkness with the death of TV?

Hunter Hernandez
Hunter Hernandez

Well, how good of an argument the original argument is is also a factor. TTG didn't have the option of being a serious show, it's of a different mold entirely. And it's not like they have the choice to renew Young Justice or not. But bean mouths? Yeah that's really overdone and maybe the artists should take that to heart a bit more.

Austin Brooks
Austin Brooks

None of these guys' shows were included in the gif.
All the fact that people cite that gif as legit criticism is somewhat horrifying.

Christian Sanchez
Christian Sanchez

there he goes

Noah Hall
Noah Hall

admitting you don't watch the show either
sit down you're boring

Grayson Sullivan
Grayson Sullivan

use flash faggit

Ethan Reed
Ethan Reed

There's so many pictures of characters that don't have LE GALLARDS FAIC and even use the mouths that guy drew, I don't think I need to just to disprove his point.

Grayson Rodriguez
Grayson Rodriguez

See as these anons pointed out
Artists don't actually use bean mouth as a crutch. Artists actually can go outside their comfort zone with mouths. And outside of being overused, bean mouths are not that legit a criticism. It'd be like complaining how every smile from the 00s ended in points.
So the argument was already weak to begin with.

Nathaniel Sanchez
Nathaniel Sanchez

none of their shows are in the gif

Even more pressing, they didn't get called out specifically and still felt attacked, because deep down they know the artistic inbreeding meme is real.

Ian Howard
Ian Howard

Flash looks like shit, worse than CG even.

Asher Kelly
Asher Kelly

Sit and do nothing while the memory of what I love fades into darkness with the death of TV?
Not that user but I would suggest getting a hobby outside of animation.

Carter Torres
Carter Torres

See these cherry picks from our most flexible show? That'll show you!

Nah

Jose Jackson
Jose Jackson

You're starting to scare me user.
A shitpost on twitter ain't that deep.

Christopher Taylor
Christopher Taylor

Fuck you, he can obsess over whatever he wants to. If there weren't people like that around, animation in general might not have even existed.

James Rodriguez
James Rodriguez

just cut and run
Than what is my heart for? Why be passionate about anything? This isn't something that'll die inside me user.

Jackson Hernandez
Jackson Hernandez

The gag is funny, it's the tactless jab that's disappointing. If, for instance, it had been like:

"We've received some complaints about the current state of our animation, and how designs have become excessively redundant. We want you to know that we hear you, and are going to be making some changes to assist in bolstering stylistic diversity, as well as attempting to peel away from what has come to be known as 'bean mouth'.

Here are some early examples of what to expect in our upcoming installments. We hope that through these changes, we can reclaim animation from creative stagnation, and perhaps inspire a new era of fresh and innovative presentation."

Instead of the most simplistic hyperbolic mockery, it would have been more than just a quality visual gag with some text that you have to ignore because it's fucking retarded.

Ian Ramirez
Ian Ramirez

that's way too many words for twitter and essentially says the same thing except it's pretentious and self-congratulating instead of blatantly jocular.

Colton Hill
Colton Hill

Despite the OP pic, OK KO is probably a bad example for this sort of talk. Different episodes tend to vary wildly in animation quality and style; sometimes characters will move and express themselves with sharp-edged lips and pronounced teeth, sometimes with stereotypical bean mouths, sometimes with a loose and stilted style where the entire head will open like a muppet if a character laughs or speaks too loudly.

Speaking nothing of the quality of the show itself, OK KO's inconsistency/flexibility with its animation style makes it a poor example for the old "CalArts mouths are ruining animation" argument.

Brayden Davis
Brayden Davis

It's only as good as the drawings you put in it retard. Everyone in my animation class uses auto magic tweens and looks like shit when you could just do that crap yourself by hand

Aaron Cox
Aaron Cox

If you arn't using the extra tools why use it over TV paint or Toon Boom?

or paper and pencil?

Chase Martin
Chase Martin

ToonBoom is expensive AF
I like flash's symbol library
Paper doesn't allow you to test out like 20 frames to see the overall motion
Ping Pong the anime was made in flash

Charles Barnes
Charles Barnes

You've never heard of The Amazing Chan and the Chan Clan, starring everyone's favorite orientals?

Samuel Bailey
Samuel Bailey

Can't make a comparison without some cartoons and their budgets.

Like say, what's OKKO's budget? Or TTG? Or gumball's?

Jayden Gomez
Jayden Gomez

paper doesn't let you test the overall motion.

What the fuck? You flip book it man.

Ethan Jones
Ethan Jones

Britain

Adam James
Adam James

I'm not very good at keeping a consistent speed when flipping! I like being precise dangit! I've been animating for only three months now

Bentley Murphy
Bentley Murphy

Oh my fucking God, literally no living person on Earth who has the power to affect any change worth mentioning anywhere on the planet gives a single ratfuck about the fucking Thief and the Cobbler. I see this stupid abortion trotted out left and right on this board like it's the second coming of Jesus's ballsweat, and it's always a couple of nice images with some good quality animation and then... so fucking what? Would anyone's lives be better today if we were forced to kneel with our faces to the floor and praise this movie like a Muslim to Mecca or something? Why are you all so fucking fixated on a failed moving picture from before you were born? Why why why?

Gavin Cooper
Gavin Cooper

Best mouths coming through. Their jaws actually move!

Nolan Edwards
Nolan Edwards

Now that's just petty and embarrassing, are these adults?

Parker Turner
Parker Turner

season 2

GOD EXIST

Jaxson Thompson
Jaxson Thompson

Unlike Steven Universe, they decided to go off-model from day one which I can handle.

Hell the only episode they felt really off for me was the sandwich flashback episode where everyone looked like they were that retro big head cheat code mode.

Josiah Moore
Josiah Moore

That vid is way worse with the sound. It's not even the screaming so much as the roaring of that fire and it eats him.

Gavin Evans
Gavin Evans

Also the fact that Steven Universe current biggest problem is the townies stealing all the plot episode and the plot progression episodes being underwhelming and lackluster at best.

At least OK KO combines wacky old school Cartoon Network with a bit of plot progression, but firmly plants its feet into the wacky side of things, plus once a supporting character comes into play, it always some wacky cartoon breadstick or something and not some boring ass human.

Dylan Diaz
Dylan Diaz

made me kek

I think you're the one triggered here

Logan Harris
Logan Harris

THIS IS GOING TO BACKFIRE

BADLY!

Robert Thompson
Robert Thompson

Well then don't poo poo the methods of the old masters while you're still learning to walk.

Leo Green
Leo Green

Seinfeld is my favorite anime

Adam Young
Adam Young

I bet you'd like an episode of the ol' spicy keychain too, ehh?

Christopher Ross
Christopher Ross

The shows aren't that bad. It's the best you could do without japs or computers.

Sebastian Miller
Sebastian Miller

Can we please make this a new pasta?

Joseph Mitchell
Joseph Mitchell

He is probably in eternal fire right now.

John Robinson
John Robinson

Fuck off pleb, Richard Willaims is a SAINT!

Hudson Kelly
Hudson Kelly

Take a style
Remove any of the solid animation
Replace cartoon contents with faggoty anime and Mario references
Be smug as fuck about it on Twitter

Jaxon Nguyen
Jaxon Nguyen

This guy was most likely drunk off his ass

Alexander Hall
Alexander Hall

please stop praising something that is objectively excellent animation
please instead suck the dick of shitty twitter artists who have a panic attack if you look at them the wrong way

Jordan Roberts
Jordan Roberts

So you're saying he was extra flamable

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