>Warner Bros. is planning a shake-up and restructuring of its DC Films operation following the box office disappointment of “Justice League,” Variety has learned.
>Jon Berg will be leaving his current job running the comic book’s film production division, according to several sources with knowledge of the studio’s plans. A search is underway for his replacement. Berg will instead become a production partner with Roy Lee, the producer of “The Lego Movie” and “It,” who has a deal on the lot.
>“This is something that Jon approached me about six months ago, and he expressed his goal was to ultimately be a producer at the studio,” Warner Bros. Picture Group President Toby Emmerich said in a statement to Variety. “I first met Jon when, as a producer, he brought ‘Elf’ to New Line, which remains one of the best and most evergreen titles in the library. We’re thrilled that Jon is partnering with Roy and anticipate their company being a valuable source of movies for Warner Bros. and New Line.”
>Warners is expected to name a new person to run point on DC’s films. Geoff Johns, who has partnered with Berg on much of the creative direction of the movies, is expected to continue serving as DC Entertainment’s chief creative officer. Johns, who reports to DC president Diane Nelson, works in areas such as television (and has written various episodes for DC-inspired shows), publishing, and consumer products, in addition to his contributions to the films. Going forward, his work on the films may evolve, and could be more advisory in nature.
>These people also say that Emmerich is weighing the idea of further integrating DC’s film operations into the studio’s main movie arm. That would entail putting the divisions under the same roof rather than having DC remain in a separate building on the lot, sources say. Marvel, which is owned by Disney, does operate its comic book film division autonomously, but other studios, such as Fox and Sony, produce their superhero films under the studio’s banner.
>The DC overhaul is expected to happen by January.
>Warner Bros.’ corporate leaders at Time Warner support the moves and are said to be unhappy with the financial performance of “Justice League.” The film was intended to be DC’s answer to Marvel’s “Avengers,” uniting the likes of Superman, Wonder Woman, and Batman under the banner of a team of world-saving superheroes. With a budget reported to be as high as $300 million, it represents an expensive bet. After three weeks of release, it has managed to gross $570.3 million worldwide. In contrast, the first “Avengers” film racked up $1.5 billion. The studio did have a number of successes this year with “Wonder Woman,” “Dunkirk,” and “It,” which has helped offset the disappointment of “Justice League.”
Chase Cook
>Berg and Johns were intimately involved in the production. Berg essentially decamped for the film’s London set, and both men have full producer credits on the picture, which would likely not be the case on future movies. “Justice League” suffered from a difficult birth. An early version, directed by Zack Snyder, alarmed studio executives with its dark tone. That had been the knock on Snyder’s two previous DC films, “Man of Steel” and “Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice.” After his daughter committed suicide, Snyder eventually left the production before it underwent costly re-shoots. Joss Whedon, who had been brought on the punch up the dialogue, took over directing, but studio brass recognized that so much footage had been shot already that there were limits to what could be done to improve the picture. Studio executives realized early on that Snyder’s decision to have Steppenwolf, a god-like, all-CGI creation, as the principal antagonist was faulty. In fact, many reviews were particularly harsh about Steppenwolf, criticizing the character for being one-note and the product of unconvincing visual effects.
>There are no immediate plans for Snyder to direct another DC movie, though he is producing or executive producing several, including “Wonder Woman 2” and “Aquaman.” Warner Bros. continues to have a production deal with Snyder, so it’s possible he could direct additional films for the studio. Time Warner is said to be frustrated that Warner Bros. leaders continue to bring the director back, especially after “Batman v Superman” was excoriated by critics even though it made money. They are also upset that each new DC film seems to be making less money than its predecessor. Only “Wonder Woman,” with its optimistic heroine, managed to be both a critical and commercial success.
Nathan Wilson
>While Ben Affleck is expected to appear as Batman in a standalone Flash movie, it is highly unlikely he will don the cape and cowl in Matt Reeves’ planned standalone Batman movie. The director is said to want to cast the role with fresh talent, according to sources.
>Warner Bros. believes that “Justice League” succeeded in one importantly respect: it effectively introduced Flash (a quippy speedster played by Ezra Miller) and Aquaman (the king of Atlantis, portrayed by Jason Momoa). A solo “Aquaman” is due out in 2018 and Warners is still developing a standalone Flash adventure. Going forward, Warner Bros. is planning a sequel to “Wonder Woman” that’s believed to be set in the Cold War, and New Line has greenlit a “Shazam” feature.
Cooper White
Good WB just had to lose 1 BILLION DOLLARS TO LEARN THAT SUPERHERO MOVIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A FAMILY FUN, MOSTLY TO KIDS AND TEENAGERS
fucking retards, also if you hire Snyder again you will fail, he can't make any kind of movie, fun or serious.
Mason Stewart
Good. DCfags should want this. The DCEU has been an embarrassment. The source material has so much more potential than marvelshit.
Luis Phillips
TL;DR:
Jon Berg out, WB in search of replacement. Johns could be Berg replacement could be not although he'd have more power within the movie Time Warner knew about what a disaster JL was gonna be and it's pissed that WB didn't sacked Snyder before everything blew up Zack chances of directing again are low but he'll still have the title of producer
Brayden Watson
I’m happy if it means getting good movies.
Adrian Wright
>Johns could be Berg replacement could be not although he'd have more power within the movie
It's amazing how someone with so little talent has managed to always suck the right cock.
Charles Kelly
>Zack chances of directing again are low but he'll still have the title of producer >snyder still in How the fuck his wife do that? youtube.com/watch?v=NTTLpUiT35U
Austin Barnes
Is that why The Dark Knight was such a success? It was family fun for kids and teenagers?
Blake Rivera
Johns is absolutely not going to be his replacement Johns is a creative man, not a money man They may continue to increase the amount of creative input or control he has on the films themselves, but nowhere do they imply he's even being considered to run the studio, a job for which he has no experience whatsoever
Leo Brown
Why do you hate Blade, Deadpool, Logan,Swamp Thing, Super, The Specials and Watchmen, user?
Zachary Jackson
Batman was always dark, his audience was always late teens and adults.
Superman is for kids, he's for family fun, that what he was for over 80s but Hack snyder tried to make an mature movie with him
That's like making a mlp show for adults because there is a bunch of ponifags fapping to furry porn, they're not the main audience.
Kevin Campbell
>These people also say that Emmerich is weighing the idea of further integrating DC’s film operations into the studio’s main movie arm. That would entail putting the divisions under the same roof rather than having DC remain in a separate building on the lot, sources say. Marvel, which is owned by Disney, does operate its comic book film division autonomously, but other studios, such as Fox and Sony, produce their superhero films under the studio’s banner. Officially 2 steps closer to Based Disney buying DC
Isaiah Sullivan
Well Superman Returns was kinda adult too, but that movie also sucked. Worst Lex Luthor villain plan.
Joseph Young
People want to watch good movies and dark movies are harder to forgive, it's as simple as that
Cooper Price
You never read the comics or media eh?
Brayden Rivera
>MOVIES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A FAMILY FUN, MOSTLY TO KIDS AND TEENAGERS FUCKING THIS
THERE'S A REASON BASED DISNEY IS DOMINATING LITERALLY EVERYTHING
Nolan James
>Lose 1Bn Sorry what? At most they're going to loose 100M, but we don't know how much they've got on sponsorships and then there's Blu-ray sales, BvS is one of the best selling blue-ray ever you know
Connor Baker
There have been countless good mature takes on Superman Just because Snyder did a shitty job doesn't mean Superman HAS to be brainless shit for children and grandmas
Benjamin Jackson
>Johns could be Berg replacement could be not although he'd have more power within the movie Why are they replacing idiots with more idiots? And if the rumours of Bendis signing over to DC because he was gonna get to work on the movies, it's still not rock bottom
Jace Martin
Fuck of snydercuck, your kind don't read superhero comics just like your master.
Connor Barnes
That's literally the way business works
Michael Gutierrez
Mature takes on superman were a bunch of mini series or movies that didn't made any money.
A movie is a huge investiment, is expected to be watched by millions on a thousand comic nerds wanting something alternative.
Xavier Bailey
>resorts to spouting Sup Forums memes after being called out for saying retarded bullshit Yeah looks like we can just disregard you from now on
Connor Ortiz
>preteding to be 2 guys while not giving any base to your arguments dude, just fuck off
Owen Myers
Stuff like Red Son and All-Star Superman continue to be some of DC's best selling OGNs
Ian Myers
Well yeah, but the idiots are generally on par with the previous idiots. Sticking in Johns and Bendis is the rock bottom of idiots
Ryder Wright
>Batman was always dark
Daniel Russell
And just some few dozens of thousands got interested on it.
A movie needs to make millions, and outside comic fans no one want an alternative view on superman.
Logan Johnson
read batman first comic
Gavin Martinez
THEY SAID THE EXACT SAME GODDAMN THING AFTER CAT-WOMAN AND JONAH HEX AND WHAT THEY DELIVERED WAS FUCKING GREEN LANTERN
these numbnuts even ruined Cyborg for the Justice League movie so now they can't even make a Teen Titans movie.. WB/DC fucking sucks, why do they suck so much, i have no idea.
Nolan Davis
>An early version, directed by Zack Snyder, alarmed studio executives with its dark tone. That had been the knock on Snyder’s two previous DC films, “Man of Steel” and “Batman v Superman: Jesus christ. They just don't get it do they? Some shitty buzzwords like "dark" or "epic" aren't the reason MoS,BvS and SS were disliked. It was because they were shitty movies. The tone doesn't dictate the quality.
Henry Rogers
Read anything but baby's first batman comic.
Camden Williams
People were laughing when Tim Burton was announced for the Batman movie because everyone still thought of Batman as Adam West
The Batman movie single handedly changed the perception of Batman in the public from a comedic character for kids to a dark and mature subject that allowed for something like TDK to be made
It's all about perception. People now go to superhero movies expecting the Marvel Studios style because the previous movies have trained them to expect that. If DC did a really great, mature Superman movie that wasn't a laughing stock like the Snyder films, people would like it and change what they expect from Superman. It might even change what they expect from all superhero movies.
I don't hate the Marvel style, but I resent that it's now considered the only way you're supposed to do superheroes and no other way should be allowed, and I resent Snyder for making people think the reason his movies are bad is that they're "dark" and not just because they're garbage.
Eli Reyes
Cyborg's was pretty much the most accurate character in the film though? Best performance as well at that.
Julian Murphy
DC has always been shit they're boring fucking stories about boring fucking characters
but DC being shit is why DC is even still around and not a part of Based Marvel like WB tried to do back in the 80s
Ethan Jackson
>it effectively introduced Flash (a quippy speedster played by Ezra Miller) and Aquaman (the king of Atlantis, portrayed by Jason Momoa)
Gavin Lee
Blade, Deadpool, Logan,Swamp Thing, Super, The Specials,Watchmen and the Darknight Trilogy
Its about making a good movie mostly. however some tones fit heros better than others its all about recognizing that
I wouldnt want a spawn movie to as light-hearted as any of the bland marvel cuck movies, nor do i want a shazam movie to be as depressing and dark as logan
Nathaniel Watson
I just don't understand WB/DC i keep trying, but i just don't understand them
Dominic Ramirez
your retarded and other then disagreeing on his opinions on Snyder's work is correct
Levi Ward
>had to lose 1 BILLION DOLLARS
They didn't lose 1 billion dollars though. They lost 50 - 100mil. They could have earned 1 billion. so the whole thing is still fucking terrible
Hudson Green
its hard to take criticism of Snyder's work or DC when you have retards like and are in just about every film related thread these days.
Like dude are you just false flagging or just generally autistic?
Benjamin Russell
>Blade, Deadpool, Logan,Swamp Thing, Super, The Specials,Watchmen and the Darknight Trilogy shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, and fucking shit
Michael Rodriguez
Superhero movies do not have to be just one moild. We have plenty of films that show this. It really depends on the hero
Thomas Jackson
>Autism
Elijah White
>Batman was always dark, his audience was always late teens and adults.
Absolutely 100% wrong
Bentley Nelson
>BASED DISNEY >Based Disney
Austin Gray
Dude literally the reason why batman was created was to counter superman light hearted style
Each character on DC is supposed to be it's own franchise with its own tone,Superman and Flash are lighthearted while Batman and Question are more serious business.
Evan Perez
um. what? You may want to do a bit more research. >the question >serious business nigger go read his early appearances now
Michael Brooks
Well let's see
>Makes a billion dollars on a single movie >hit $5 billion THREE YEARS IN A ROW and this year with only 6 movies >Is about to make another $2 billion in about a week >Is about to buy Fox giving them EVEN MORE billion dollar movies >Makes every other studio looks like a fucking joke >Damn near every movie they make is great with the worst of them being only meh >Does tons of fan shit like D23 yeah they're pretty based
Eli Flores
Disney don't want DC...except...
WW is perfect for disney, they can give her a pixar and MCU trilogy and make her an avenger.
Also her movie made a lot of money unlike MoS and Justice League
James Price
Fucking kill yourself, Mousefag.
Michael Scott
um what huh watta do research casual
not an argument, stop being a fedora
Xavier Wilson
i honestly certain the amount of MCUfag autism is just a dcfag trying to sway opinion by shit posting in every film thread lately. No one can be this obtuse right?
Kevin Wright
i never presented it as an argument you retard. Are you fucking stupid.
>do research casual considering you're just making shit up on the fly, yeah do some.
Connor Fisher
It's not like Marvel has a Wonder Woman of their own. They've been trying for decades with no success
Ryan Morgan
It all comes down to the fact that they tried too hard at the wrong things. WB basically attempted to do whatever they think is popular as opposed to telling a coherent story that kept the sense of the superheroes.
Daniel Barnes
Let me just tell something to everyone that loved Man of Steel, Batman v Superman and Justice League.
Me too.
This is good. If you liked those films? That's great. A shake-up keeps everyone on their toes.
Ethan Perez
>There are no immediate plans for Snyder to direct another DC movie, though he is producing or executive producing several, including “Wonder Woman 2” and “Aquaman.” Warner Bros. continues to have a production deal with Snyder, so it’s possible he could direct additional films for the studio. Time Warner is said to be frustrated that Warner Bros. leaders continue to bring the director back, especially after “Batman v Superman” was excoriated by critics
> Time Warner is said to be frustrated that Warner Bros. leaders continue to bring the director back, especially after “Batman v Superman” was excoriated by critics
Even Time Warner knows he sucks.
Carter Bailey
I love that raping Supermans character came and bit them in the ass
Hunter Howard
>Johns could be Berg replacement could be not although he'd have more power within the movie
Nope. It politely states that he will return to doing what he was doing, working UNDER Diane Nelson.
Way to many words to acknowledge that Johns will be back to doing what he was SUPPOSED to be doing all along since 2011, which is helping live action producers and directors use and understand the DC intellectual property, particularly to getting them to exploit IP that isn't as well known or used, for not just live action but toys, and similar.
DC could hire 50 people and promise them they would get to work on the movies. The WB executives, when they show up on the lot, will point out whose dick needs to be sucked first and put them straight to work.
Matthew Carter
>though he is producing or executive producing several, including “Wonder Woman 2” and “Aquaman.” Warner Bros. continues to have a production deal with Snyder,
>tfw Snydercucks will claim that those movies sucess were caused by his involviment when he will not be the main producer,writer or director.
Sebastian Anderson
>tfw you realize the reason general audiences were open to “WHERE IS SHE” Batman was because they loved Bateman Bruce Wayne and quips like “I’m not wearing hockey pads”
Thomas Wright
All it means is that they don't want to tear up the current contract with Snyder wife/husband so they will be listed as producing on WW2 and Aquaman (which is essentially complete save post-production).
They all say that the bosses for the studio are unhappy that the studio (WB) keeps giving Snyder work - this all presumably suggests that while Snyder make direct something for WB, it's not going to have ANY relationship to the DC films.
AT&T is buying WB, notwithstanding Orangeman's attempt to derail the deal (which have more to do with his hate boner for CNN than it does for WB, DC, etc.).
Disney will have enough trouble buying Fox's film studio assets.
Christian Rogers
They are really over-complicating this shit.
Just do good solo films. Fuck MUH UNIVERSE. Focus on each individual hero's stories and eventually do ONE crossover with its own storyline irrespective of what may have happened before. Even in Marvel films fans really overstate how significant its "universe" is.
Ayden Myers
The faggot already has money, anyway.
Justin Reyes
Sames shit as when BvS shat the bed, hope they nail it this time. Just make a decent movie, this year people digged Logan and a good bunch of kids liked the nolan movies.
Jonathan Stewart
>Batman was always dark, his audience was always late teens and adults.
Gabriel Parker
>Warner is expected to name a new person to run point on DC’s films. Geoff Johns IT'S HAPPENING, WE MAY FINALLY GET A GOOD DC MOVIE
Geoff is a hack but he respects the source material enough to do a good job when put in charge
Brandon Lopez
>Johns >respecting the source material All he'll do is push one of his shitty books to be adapted. It's all he does
Adam Rodriguez
Can't be worse than Snyder and his character desconstruction fetish
Justin Brown
Disney want everything. Every studio would be a monopoly if they could.
Parker Kelly
>GOOD DC MOVIE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
also you should read the rest of that because it says he's being demoted and going back to what he did with Green Lantern
Juan Ross
Read the story OP. He's going to 'advising' he's not going to be in charge of anything other than his own BMs
Luke Reed
You're the only one equating something being for children and grandmas as brainless. But that's mostly because you're young yourself. You don't remember the original Land Before Time, just its sequels.
Nolan Sullivan
what the hell is that BROWNE calvin and hobbes shit.
Liam Anderson
>Geoff is a hack but he respects the source material
Only if the source material is HIS OWN material you cunt.
Reminder that he is the reason cyborg is in the movie.
Landon Allen
THIS, alternative versions are for people that are already used to the mainstream one.
Normies(99% of the audience) want the iconic version.
Easton Diaz
>Time Warner is said to be frustrated that Warner Bros. leaders continue to bring the director back, especially after “Batman v Superman” was excoriated by critics even though it made money.
Sensible chuckle.
Jaxon Perez
-pretty sure that is because they adapted his ideas for justice league (which also includes a large presence of the new god characters)
-it was a reboot
Nathaniel Foster
fuck off you annoying cunt
Bentley Walker
Hopefully he knows better than that, especially considering they literally just adapted the new 52 and scrapped flashpoint. If anything he'll throw blackest night on the screen for those sweet sweet royalty bucks.
Yeah I'm aware, he's not qualified to run a studio and is far too busy with comics for the job, but if they make him essentially the CCO for the DC movies this could work out pretty well.
Parker Price
He doesn't respect shit. He retcons everything. Still I actually like those retcons so I don't complain.
Easton Roberts
This.
Reboot now. Keep the actors if they want, so long as they dub Gadot and teach Affleck how to look stern instead of just angrily bored.
William Miller
Everyone likes Batman. You don't have to work hard to sell him.
They've had dark films and campy films, and they all made money.
Josiah Howard
>Hopefully he knows better than that, especially considering they literally just adapted the new 52 and scrapped flashpoint. If anything he'll throw blackest night on the screen for those sweet sweet royalty bucks. I woudn't be surprised if his Batman script was just an Earth One adaptation, and they threw it out because even the execs realised how stupid it'd be to have slapstick Batman with Affleck
William Barnes
He's not in charge.
He's just there so WB can say, "LOOK WE HAVE A DC WRITER CHECKING THINGS IT'S ALL GOOD"
Lincoln Russell
Watchmen sucked.
Much like the novel Dracula, it is important because of what it inspired, not because the work itself is actually good.
Watchmen was a pretty looking but hollow adaptation of a middling story.
Adam James
They like Flash, huh?
Get ready for Flashpoint then.
Jacob Butler
Why the fuck would Johns get the blame for any of this?
He and Berg came in too late to save Justice League from Snyder, he was a core part of making Wonder Woman a success and he'd been warning WB for fucking years about listening to Snyder's idiotic ideas. I don't see how any of the current mess is on him.
Evan Bell
>While Ben Affleck is expected to appear as Batman in a standalone Flash movie, it is highly unlikely he will don the cape and cowl in Matt Reeves’ planned standalone Batman movie. The director is said to want to cast the role with fresh talent, according to sources. >"i-it's ok guys b-ben isn't leaving, he loves batman!!!"
Juan Howard
It's clear the fault lies with the higher ups at WB, Johns and Berg are just the scapegoat.
Ryan Davis
>he was a core part of making Wonder Woman Not really, he worked on dialoges and nothing more. >he'd been warning WB for fucking years about listening to Snyder's idiotic ideas. I don't see how any of the current mess is on him. Johnsfags are crazy. Johns got his job by being the yes sir of all the executives. He is part of the problem.
Julian Ross
>Over saturated cgi >cringe ass jokes >shit story telling >horrible pacing >awful choice of actors
Wow sure didnt see that one comming
Ethan Ross
But good news now they're folding DC into the main film arm just like Sony and Fox did with spiderman and xmen and that worked out great
Parker Kelly
WB should just stick with their fucking tv series. They can't cut it out in the movie industry when it comes to capeshit.
James Flores
That guy has been blatantly falseflagging on live action threads since JL dropped. Your average Marvelite usually fanfares Feige or the MCU.
Jonathan Reed
>IRON MAN WAS POPULAR BECAUSE PLANES LMAO! These people really lack a figure head with a bit of common sense.