Tangled Budget: 260 million

>Tangled Budget: 260 million
>Tangled Box Office: 591.2 million
>Frozen Budget: 150 million
>Frozen Box Office: 1.287 billion

Why?

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Better husbando.

Let it go.

The songs were better and the sisters theme was more relatable.

>Elsa is almost completely covered in snow
>still does the fucking Dreamworks face

Tangled got a fuckton of "Do overs" apperantly Glen Kean wanted it to be the last hand drawn animated princess movie (it was suppose to look like a moving renaissance painting) but Instead ended up being the first 3D princess.

So the budget ballon and there wasn't enough budget for marketing to inflate the box office numbers
Also during that time the China - Japan - Korea white worshipping princess movie Juggernaut market wasn't at full swing

Lol
Ariel = his wife
Punzie = his daughter even Flynn rider looks like her french husband.


I also blame the scraping of the original bara Prince idea imagine all the porn fandom and hysteria it can create.
Instated we got the goons.

Oh my god it all makes sense now

I agree
making the prince bara tier can balance the sissyfication and emasculation potryal of most of Disney's male characters.

two waifus vs one

Frozen had better marketing.

Idina Menzel's ridiculous singing voice, this has been asked a thousand times over.

Kristoff is garbage, he has zero sex appeal, he's just gross. Doesn't help they're making him retarded too. He and the trolls were a mistake.

i wonder how "Snow Queen with a tweest" woud look like,

If studio executives KNEW what worked there wouldn't be any duds.
It's a crapshoot -- which they try to "game" by re-releasing what worked last time.
Cars 3. Rocky 7. Jaws 19. Star Wars 145.

Because normies like shit musicals and retarded characters like olaf. The only good thing frozen has given us is porn

Everyone expected it to be really bad until after it came out.

People and critics were cringing at each Olaf scene in the trailers

friendly reminder that Frozen is modern equivalent of The Lion King.

Lion King is the Dark Souls of the Frozen series.

At the time, Disney was still trying to recover from a series of really bad movies in a row, and the increasingly not bad movies they were making weren't making much of a splash. People still thought Disney made either bad or at best lackluster movies. I think this more than anything hurt the BO of PatF. People were wary and didn't go see it right off, then it got lukewarm reception and word of mouth and it just never took off.

Tangled early on had all the earmarks of Bad Disney Movie. It went through a few rewrites, and one full production stop and was pushed back to pre-production. The would-be groundbreaking art style was scrapped in favor of the cheaper, more stable and more conventional CG animation style, and the title was changed from Rapunzel to Tangled. To top it off, that first trailer was horrendous.

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I remember being very excited for Rapunzel because it's one of my favorite fairy tales and it meant maybe Disney was returning to fairy tale stories. And then I saw that trailer and groaned.

The audience just wasn't enthused about it, neither was Disney. They released it believing that it wouldn't be able to turn a profit since the budget had gotten so bloated, but maybe they could recoup some losses.

The movie came out against one of the Harry Potter movies in it's second week. But it got good reviews and generated great word of mouth. It stuck around at the box office and worldwide long enough to eke a meager profit, something Disney hadn't expected at all, and revived the idea that Disney could make great animated movies again. Tangled paved the way for the successes of Wreck-it Ralph and Frozen, the latter of which was the first Princess/fairy tale movie released since people figured out Disney was making good animated movies again.

Personally, I think Tangled is much better than Frozen, but I thought Aladdin was better than the Lion King too, so...

Tangled is better
Rapunzel and Eugene are better

>bare feet
This alone makes Tangled > Frozen.

I thought it was the Mario Galaxy of the Kimba The White Lion series

Tangled was in active production for nine years. Eusner wanted it to be a reverse Enchanted story. Glen Keane said no way.

Not only was a lot wasted on cancelled production, Tangled developed advanced computer animation of hair & fabrics.

Plus people expected Tangled to be a trainwreck.

2 cute girls = twice the box office.

This, concept art Eugene looked more funny and even charming

Also this blew Tangled Ever After out of the fucking water.

I mean how can you compete with Elsa? You can't.

getting the uncanny from the blonde

Drunk Elsa is best Elsa.

Any webms you'd want to share with us?

Nah I haven't made any yet.

Rapunzel is the best

All right try this on for size.

I thought it was the Sonic 06 of Pokemon movies

Guess I should get around making some.

Favourite song from the short? Mine's Ring in the season. It's just so full of energy and happiness. I don't know the musical term but I love how characters sing low and then quickly jump into very high pitch, it just sounds like pure joy.

It's not technically in the short but the full length Ballad of Flemmingrad is seriously my favorite.

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>Also during that time the China - Japan - Korea white worshipping princess movie Juggernaut market wasn't at full swing
One movie does not a market make, and people don't worship whites just because they watch American movies.

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Never tell her I told you this, but my little sister was 12 when Frozen came out and I caught her checking out Kristoff porn. I'll never let her forget it.

Tangled was better
Frozen are for losers

Lol
My sister likes Eugene.....

Natural beauty

Why did people expect it to suck?

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Because Princess and the Frog sucked and no one believed in it after that fucking debacle.

was she yawning at the end?

She was drawing out the last syllable of season.

>Princess and the Frog sucked
thatswhereyourewrongkiddo.gif

You should let it go.

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Him addressing the Trolls by some odd title when we'd never known them as such is still baffling as fuck.

They raised you dumbass, you say family.

Well Rapunzel wasn't just going to leave the people to die because she was feeling sorry for herself.

>concept art Eugene looks better
>looks like a hobo

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these girls have some questionable taste.

he's like miguel and tulio in one.

When We're Together was mine

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I like all the new songs. I think it's impressive as hell this new team was able to hop in and knock it out of the park like this.

anyone got mega

Same, niggy.

because the songs are better. You can't tell me that frozen's songs weren't a big part of it's success.

Nice try Pixar, the short was mediocre straight to vhs quality.

Frozen literally had two decent songs.

It only took one god-level power ballad to change Elsa in to a marketing mammoth.

>straight to vhs quality.
Why?

What about, Jack black Eugene?

>fat comic relief
No thanks.

>comic relief
He was the protagonist.
But the girls went "eeeeewww" at a fat prince. Probably the same ones that demand a fat black dyke princess.

Considering that character was for Rapunzel Unbraided, no.

FYI, Rapinzel Unbraided was an early version of the film where two teenagers from San Francisco were to be teleported into the world of fairytales when Rapunzel & her prince are transformed ibto a squirrel & a basset hound respectively.

>demand a fat black dyke princess.

But they don't buy that either.

Who?

I feel like that's gonna be Yasss in a nutshell, but obnoxious on top of it.

Hobos are funny and charming. There need to be men for women to regret being fucked by when they're 30.

One other reason Frozen succeeded was it actually nailed a specific European culture rather than being a bland "Princess" melange of late-Renaissance/early-industrial stuff.

I hope we get to see Bitchpunzel again.

they look really stiff

Frozen had meme songs.

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Stiff, huh?

Husbando-tier

gays out