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Nolan Collins
Nolan Collins

Best SW movie in 34 years

Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

Out This Week:
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Graphic Novel Adaptation (Tue 12)
Adventures #5 (Wed 13)
Star Wars#40 (Wed 13)
Star Wars Battlefront II: Resurrection (Wed 13)
Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Fri 15)
The Art of Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Fri 15)
Star Wars: The Last Jedi: Bomber Command (Fri 15)
Star Wars: The Last Jedi: Incredible Cross-Sections (Fri 15)
Star Wars: The Last Jedi: The Visual Dictionary (Fri 15)
Chewie and the Porgs (Fri 15)
The Last Jedi: Cobalt Squadron (Fri 15)

Star Wars Rebels Season 4 Trailer 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtigV-biVGg

Rebels Recon: Rebel Assault
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXt9ZmN-V-k

Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CbN8sfihY

STAR WARS: Battlefront II – The Movie (2017)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geqUtEjdREc

Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
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Star Wars: Forces of Destiny
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpSnlSGciSWNBXSxZZrsvWdnoGsLCr6WL

Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing

All urls found in this thread:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtigV-biVGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXt9ZmN-V-k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CbN8sfihY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geqUtEjdREc
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpSnlSGciSWNBXSxZZrsvWdnoGsLCr6WL
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
http://www.slashfilm.com/knights-of-ren-movie/
http://ew.com/movies/2017/12/16/the-last-jedi-spoiler-talk-carrie-fisher-force-powers-leia/2/
https://imgur.com/a/vUTHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCktna1Kbbk
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/7k9n70/the_sea_monster_does_appear_in_the_movie/
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Xim
https://streamable.com/kslts
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kateel_of_Kuhlvult
http://www.starwars.com/news/from-concept-to-screen-the-jedi-temple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6k3YBmIUYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6k3YBmIUYo
https://imgur.com/a/vUTHA
Carson Morales
Carson Morales

First for The Last Jedi is trash

Samuel Young
Samuel Young

first for The Last Jedi is ok

Leo Nelson
Leo Nelson

http://www.slashfilm.com/knights-of-ren-movie/

I guess the one thing I would say is there’s a Knights of Ren story that I think would be pretty cool to tell.

JJ is bringing the Knights of Ren in 9. You heard it here first.

Easton Stewart
Easton Stewart

Rian took a hot shit all over most of JJ's ideas
so JJ is now forced to follow up on whatever's left
yay?

Michael Sullivan
Michael Sullivan

Cleaned out the trash you mean. No more having to deal with shit Snoke theories and Rey's parents theories. OT faggots got fucked too. Hope JJ enjoys Rian killing his shit ideas.

Dominic Edwards
Dominic Edwards

/co/thread/97524067#p97528281

This is basically right.

"Being good just makes bad guys so why bother being good." is retarded as fuck.

Adrian Parker
Adrian Parker

It's not ideal for the franchise but it's fitting after Rian was left to do the same.

Asher Smith
Asher Smith

In Battlefront II's campaign, Naboo has an ion pulse weapon that can temporarily disable all the guns stormtroopers are using.

The Officer class also has access to defuser weapons that disable enemy guns. Have these made it anywhere else in the films or comics or are they purely a video game contrivance?

Gabriel Martin
Gabriel Martin

Could someone with The Last Jedi Incredible Cross Sections please share the pages on Raddus, Libertine, and the StarFortress bomber (the X-wing and TIEs too if possible).

King regards and thanks,
Requesting user

Dominic Edwards
Dominic Edwards

Reminder that all discussion in this thread must be exclusively about COMICS & CARTOONS related to Star Wars. Any posts discussing The Last Jedi are against //www.Sup Forums.org/rules#co1 and should be reported on sight.

Logan Cooper
Logan Cooper

http://ew.com/movies/2017/12/16/the-last-jedi-spoiler-talk-carrie-fisher-force-powers-leia/2/

Those watching the film for the first time will likely miss this (they’re supposed to), but Fisher also delivers a subtle, revealing glance during their interaction when Luke reaches out and hands her the pair of Han Solo’s golden dice that were hanging inside the Millennium Falcon.
Her expression is not grief, but shock. And it’s not about receiving this memento.
“That’s when she knows,” Hamill says.
Her brother isn’t really there. And yet he is.
It’s not a bad metaphor for the legacy of Carrie Fisher.

Bentley Peterson
Bentley Peterson

i liked it

Isaac Bailey
Isaac Bailey

being this much of a newfag

Adam Cook
Adam Cook

Yeah, but at this point that's just tiring. 7 shit on 6 and 8 shit on 7 so there's nothing to build a franchise off of.

Ryan Thompson
Ryan Thompson

Bitch please.

Nathaniel Jenkins
Nathaniel Jenkins

he's going to fix what Rian messed up.
pretty sure Rian's going to get the boot once this travesty is over. A mixed reaction is something Disney does not want.

so expect Kylo lying to Rey about her origins, Luke Rematerializing once the New Rebellion gets into shit, saving them. And Kylo being redeemed.

Xavier Wood
Xavier Wood

I'm guessing they can pull a Lando, and have the Knights represent a personal past that Kylo might want to move away from. Perhaps he tries to have a change of heart, but they refuse? Or maybe the opposite? Perhaps they have the opportunity for redemption he doesn't.

Easton Russell
Easton Russell

A mixed reaction is something Disney does not want.
Maybe, but bank is what's really going to do it. If it makes a shitload it won't matter how critically divisive it is.

Gabriel Murphy
Gabriel Murphy

Lmao. Dude the reaction is not mixed. How delusional are you?

Juan Edwards
Juan Edwards

Concept art for Canto Bight had classic aliens out the ass

OH COME ON!

Austin Stewart
Austin Stewart

How delusional are you?
Same goes to you

Jeremiah King
Jeremiah King

Snoke's origins and motives will be addressed in Snoke: A Star Wars Story

Jordan Bailey
Jordan Bailey

A mixed reaction is something Disney does not want.

It's gotten a golden critical reception and has mad money. That's exactly what Disney wants.

Adrian Bell
Adrian Bell

First for TLJ is amazeballs

Suck it haters

Luis Walker
Luis Walker

Suck a cock.

Nathan Walker
Nathan Walker

you will get your earth-toned squinty-eyed aliens and you will LIKE IT

Xavier Jenkins
Xavier Jenkins

critically divisive
in the 90%

That and making bank is all the Mouse cares about, not 4tards.

David Adams
David Adams

I'm surprised at the hate TLJ is getting given the solid meme potential. We've got:

Luke literally *it was a hologram*
Ben spins because it's a good trick
Yoda reaction faces
Yoda trolling in general
Milkies
Awkward Relo shots

Anything else?

Leo Cooper
Leo Cooper

Best SW movie in 34 years
that's any different than winning the Special Olympics
yeah, you won, but you're still retarded

Cooper Mitchell
Cooper Mitchell

Better resolution

Owen Richardson
Owen Richardson

The movie will make millions but Disney will probably fire him because of how many fans and normies seem to have dislike TLJ

Bentley Foster
Bentley Foster

a Chevin
Oh wow you don't see those often, that would've been really cool

Jacob Morales
Jacob Morales

Anything else?
"It's salt!"

Jordan Fisher
Jordan Fisher

Salt

Christopher Jenkins
Christopher Jenkins

I would agree.

Jayden Martin
Jayden Martin

meant reylo goddamnit

Jeremiah Roberts
Jeremiah Roberts

trandoshan in a tux

Yeah fucking right as if any of their scum are civilized

Grayson Gutierrez
Grayson Gutierrez

The good news is that Snoke is not the least bit popular so Disney will never give him a movie.

The bad news is Dooku will never get a backstory movie either.

Jace Moore
Jace Moore

Message to all the faggots.

Nathaniel Cook
Nathaniel Cook

I'm surprised at the hate TLJ
You tell me, even my newspaper is talking about it

Ayden Miller
Ayden Miller

Rude.

Brody Foster
Brody Foster

Take absolutely nothing seriously.

...except ISB.

Ian Morales
Ian Morales

highest percent is only 73%
Vader is at 49%

What?

Eli Taylor
Eli Taylor

TLJ concept art gallery

https://imgur.com/a/vUTHA

Charles Wilson
Charles Wilson

Happy beeps?

Ian James
Ian James

This makes me angry

Every single bit of previously established worldbuilding from the other movies except for some main characters and ships have been thrown in the garbage

Where are the Twi'leks? What's happening on Coruscant? Why wasn't there any pod racing on Canto Bight? Why has no one been called a sleemo or a pile of bantha poodoo? Seriously, where are the barely-dressed Twi'leks?

Hunter Campbell
Hunter Campbell

The hate isn't really surprising when you look at the movie we got and how it compares to the hype train and Disney's agressive attempts to control the metanarrative.

Abrams gave a giant promise that "no we'll do it right next time" and he was executive producer, so he technically had as much or more authority than Johnson. But the box was empty and now everyone knows it. The chickens have come to roost.

Zachary James
Zachary James

lmao

Hudson Sullivan
Hudson Sullivan

Great now star wars is DC

Jayden Ross
Jayden Ross

I liked TLJ

Ayden Fisher
Ayden Fisher

it's a bizarre combination of the MCU and the DCEU

Connor Parker
Connor Parker

JUST

Angel Howard
Angel Howard

How dare you

Joseph Anderson
Joseph Anderson

leia has the biggest dick

snoke smallest

Thomas Watson
Thomas Watson

Naboo has an ion pulse weapon that can temporarily disable all the guns stormtroopers are using.

It disables ALL weapons and devices. It was made to counter a Droid invasion force.

Easton White
Easton White

that is really generous with the ears

Evan Kelly
Evan Kelly

That's one suave Trandoshan

Cooper Ross
Cooper Ross

fpbp

Christopher Roberts
Christopher Roberts

This.

Nathan Sanders
Nathan Sanders

Fucking lol

Gabriel Edwards
Gabriel Edwards

Count Ren.

Andrew Barnes
Andrew Barnes

Name a more iconic duo

Grayson Mitchell
Grayson Mitchell

IT'S JEDI TIME
NO LUKE NO

Ryder Allen
Ryder Allen

Inb4 some tie-in story states there was a huge cull on many classic aliens

Nolan Garcia
Nolan Garcia

bad audience reaction

sales go up

reminder that /tv/, /pol/, reddit, twitter, tumblr and normalfag fanboys all got BTFO and are SEETHING

Xavier Myers
Xavier Myers

Stop trying to ruin people's fun because you got the movie spoiled for yourself

Logan Sullivan
Logan Sullivan

Sales aren't in, PROJECTED sales are up. There's a big difference. All it is right now is the same guesswork that fails regularly.

Josiah Hall
Josiah Hall

First Order holocausted cute twilek girls. Now the film has a real bady

Robert Roberts
Robert Roberts

Whoever drew this needs to draw porn.

Daniel Ramirez
Daniel Ramirez

I am still annoyed by these

Nolan Harris
Nolan Harris

Note to all the faggots. The prequels had ALOT of Sets and Practical Effects. Fact.

Noah Powell
Noah Powell

they probably do

whether they share it is another story

Ayden Rodriguez
Ayden Rodriguez

You've got to feel bad for them

They tried so hard to get everyone to hate the movie and it was all for nothing

Lucas Nelson
Lucas Nelson

The style looks very familiar, actually. They probably do. Most artists do, though probably under a different name.

Gabriel Hill
Gabriel Hill

SEETHING

Adrian Baker
Adrian Baker

and then Jorge slathered it all with shitty CGI

Liam Powell
Liam Powell

The idea of these was pretty cool, down to the bomber gear the crew wore. The execution could have been better.

Jeremiah Barnes
Jeremiah Barnes

I knew Utapau was a model, but it's that big?

Jaxson White
Jaxson White

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCktna1Kbbk

Wait a minute, this scene isn't in the movie!

Liam Foster
Liam Foster

Now I'm mad

Ryan Stewart
Ryan Stewart

You should tell that to Jewjew. He was shrieking autistically about his "practical effects" during the production of TFA. Too bad the story was shit.

Cooper Clark
Cooper Clark

/tv/ still holding on desparately

Thomas Parker
Thomas Parker

Did anybody notice that the TLJ ICS canonized Xim the Despot?

Dylan Perry
Dylan Perry

dat satisfying shot of all those bombs sliding down in a spiral pattern

Pure Kino.

Adrian Thompson
Adrian Thompson

Source?

Asher Adams
Asher Adams

Why? They're awesome.

Cameron Cook
Cameron Cook

I nearly busted out laughing at VA Holdo's seething expression when Poe takes over because "it's treason then" would've fit so well

Robert Foster
Robert Foster

explain

Adam Murphy
Adam Murphy

Isn't it a shame that tech hasn't been miniaturized and spread throughout the galaxy?

Hudson King
Hudson King

it's a bizarre combination of the MCU and the DCEU
How so?

Ryan Brown
Ryan Brown

because muh Y-Wings and muh B-Wings got replaced with space turtles

Samuel Rodriguez
Samuel Rodriguez

Even if TLJ is the worst SW movie ever which is impossible considering TPM and ATC exist it will still make money. SW WILL NEVER FLOP

Elijah Sanchez
Elijah Sanchez

That still looks cool.

Lincoln Mitchell
Lincoln Mitchell

post pictures thanks

Jaxon Bennett
Jaxon Bennett

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/7k9n70/the_sea_monster_does_appear_in_the_movie/

TLJ is prequel dense

Joseph Stewart
Joseph Stewart

MCU
comedy movie scenes interspersed with serious stuff
DCEU
slow meandering plot that doesn't really go anywhere
also looks like it's got a weird grey filter have the time

Caleb Lewis
Caleb Lewis

Cool? Sure.

It's still shit CGI though, even if it was good for the time.

Logan Martinez
Logan Martinez

In the Incredible Cross Sections book, it said that the Supremacy dwarfed even the most liberal restorations of Xim the Despot's Treasure Ship. In the old EU, Xim the Despot was mentioned as being an ancient Genghis Khan type figure of the old Tion Empire, who conquered his way through the mid and outer rim, and was one of the few "civilized" human societies outside of the core and colony worlds that hadn't made contact with the core. He was mentioned in the Han Solo Adventures trilogy from 78-79, which Pablo Hidalgo has gone on record as stating to be some of his favorite EU novels.

John Flores
John Flores

Clone Wars had 'I Win' EMP weapons too

Jackson Campbell
Jackson Campbell

Rey getting raped
GO AWAY

James Gonzalez
James Gonzalez

Requesting more images of Ahsoka in pretty dresses

Gavin Johnson
Gavin Johnson

Best SW movie in 34 years
57% Audience rating on RT
5.0 Audience rating on MC

Easton Richardson
Easton Richardson

Superlatives are dangerous in a galaxy that has seen civilisations rise and fall over millennia, but the Supremacy may be the largest warship ever built. It dwarfs the Super Star Destroyers used by the Empire as command ships, the trophy battlecruisers built by wealthy Core sectors during the Republic's death throes and the most outlandish reconstructions of Xim the Despot's flagship. The Supremacy's only rivals are the Death Star superweapons and the planetary-scale engineering project that created Starkiller Base.

Owen Edwards
Owen Edwards

still shit CGI though, even if it was good for the time

???

Ethan Smith
Ethan Smith

What Toymax Dreamworks TV 5-in-1 game is this?

Kevin Morales
Kevin Morales

Probably because it's a spot
Anyway BB9 is the real First Order hero who helped more than anyone else bring down the Resistance

Blake Powell
Blake Powell

Why was it so slow. Seriously.

Xavier Brooks
Xavier Brooks

btw heres the wook article, which needs to be updated since now hes canon :^)

Nicholas Mitchell
Nicholas Mitchell

The clone wars where hell

Mason Moore
Mason Moore

MCU
serious stuff?

Hahaha

Jaxon Harris
Jaxon Harris

This. Audience reception is much more important, also I don't think JJ personally likes what happened in TLJ, so I'd like to speculate that he's going to undo most of the bullshit that Rian did

Ryder Allen
Ryder Allen

I thought they intentionally made them look all plastic and shiny in that shot in particular? It's contrasts the end of the clone war very well when you see the clone armour look all dirty and roughed up.

Elijah Hughes
Elijah Hughes

yfw this was the bigger fish Qui-Gon mentioned

Caleb Gutierrez
Caleb Gutierrez

When Rey gets her hands on Kylo's Lightsaber and kills Pretorian guards out of rage
When they both fight the guards in perfect sync

BEAUTIFULY KINO

Daniel Richardson
Daniel Richardson

THE POINT was that TLJ feels like every other scene is out of a comedy

Jacob Lee
Jacob Lee

Being good for the time doesn't mean it looks good. The shot would've looked way better if they'd just built some clone armor.

John King
John King

Noice!

Jaxson Lewis
Jaxson Lewis

Mustafar took up a whole warehouse. Think it took over a year to build as well.

Lincoln Brown
Lincoln Brown

Even if TLJ is the worst SW movie ever which is impossible considering TPM and ATC exist it will still make money. SW WILL NEVER FLOP

Its review score is worse than both of those.

Jayden Garcia
Jayden Garcia

whoops forgot to copy it http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Xim

Thomas Williams
Thomas Williams

I really really like this.

Elijah Lee
Elijah Lee

Had awful cuts rather than just being slow, problem is the Poe vs Holdo subplot was simply too static.

Easton Russell
Easton Russell

Reminder that the ST era is a lost cause

Jackson Lopez
Jackson Lopez

Poe was right.

Charles Wright
Charles Wright

it makes for a utter flaming garbage pile to which Disney should just hit the reset button.

Really they should have nuked all this when it was clear it was going to be a clusterfuck.

Hell they did that was Solo and got an ACTUAL DIRECTOR to manage things.

Leo Harris
Leo Harris

I 100% agree.

David Bennett
David Bennett

Just got back from the new movie. It sucked balls, ask me anything.

Joshua Howard
Joshua Howard

Disagree. Ducktroopers and Stormies look worse than Clones because it's obvious that they are plastic.

Noah Brooks
Noah Brooks

The first thing I thought when I saw those in actions, is "Dammit, they made them this way so they can build up escort missions in BFII Starfighter mode or whatever Rogue Squadron-like game they'll put out"

And it made me kinda angry, I was taken out of the movie.

Carter Torres
Carter Torres

Yeah, pretty much. I didn't hate TLJ but it doesn't do anything to help redeem the era. There's no way to turn this around with 9, especially since it's JJ again.

Gavin Hill
Gavin Hill

Do you wish this all turned out to be a bad dream?

Austin Rodriguez
Austin Rodriguez

Shit, I thought he was Tom Hardy for a second there.

Josiah Myers
Josiah Myers

It is known.
t. knower

Jack Barnes
Jack Barnes

What did you like about it?

Aiden Parker
Aiden Parker

No it's even worse. The resistance and FO have no bomber class fighters. Their one new ST era hero is someone who dies with less than a minute of screentime. There's nobody to even make DLC of because this movie shit the bed that hard.

Thomas Wright
Thomas Wright

they aren't even in battlefront 2, and they never will be, I doubt they'll ever be seen again outside of comics, if that

Asher Scott
Asher Scott

OH NO NO NO NO NO

Jaxon Collins
Jaxon Collins

Jar Jar Chink's incredibly awkward out of place romance/kiss with Finn?

Elijah Evans
Elijah Evans

That shot of the Praetorian with the chain pulling Rey towards himself is oddly satisfying.

Jack Flores
Jack Flores

Reminder, The Sequel Trilogy has no story or plot.

And Rey is a fake tsundere bitch.

Dominic Thompson
Dominic Thompson

when the pottery hits

Juan Anderson
Juan Anderson

Is that you Star Desperado?

Jace Martinez
Jace Martinez

Its review score is worse than both of those.

Its AUDIENCE review score on rottentomatoes, which has been spammed by /tv/ is not a reliable indicator.

Nolan Williams
Nolan Williams

It really wouldn't have. I like the way the troopers are all lined up perfectly. You wouldn't get the same effect if you did get people lined up. The OT and ST used paintings and CGI troopers as well to create a similar shot.

Angel Myers
Angel Myers

Very, very sure that JJ will also shit on Rian by reestablishing the mystery box.

Colton Phillips
Colton Phillips

- Start calling the current trilogy as "the Disney fan fiction"
- Start delegitimizing their claim on the mythos by considering everything from Return of the Jedi as glorified fake expanded material
- Always mention that "Disney killed Star Wars". Make Tshirts and Hats with it. Create a grassroots movement that will spread like wildfire among the actually witty fan base.
- Always mention Mark Hamill's refusal to accept this Luke as canon luke
- Equate "Legends" and "EU" with what Disney is making right now.
- Say "its not real star wars even Lucas said so" as a catch phrase to counter-revolutionize youth
- Underline the SJW and Tumblerina aspects of characters
- Underline how there are no white male characters remaining and that Disney is murdering any semblance of them one by one
- Underline how most casting were done so according to Real World interests (affirmative action casting which is actually reverse racism)
- Underline how Bob Iger has presidential ambitions and his master plan is to create a generation of mindless drone youth even worse than the spoonfed fake liberalism of Obama era
- Underline how Hux has become (with TLJ) an allegory of Trump.
- Make SURE you always, ALWAYS mention how Rey is just a cornball Mary Sue, that ruffles their feathers that nothing else (because its true)

We can do it. Lets equate Disney with mediocrity, soullessness and their works as derivative terrible copies of the originals.

Sebastian Thompson
Sebastian Thompson

Yes
Are you Havoc or Jason Fry or someone else

Jar Jar Chinks
WEW

James King
James King

Generally speaking financially successful movies have low critic scores but high audience scores, because audience scores tend to be more forgiving. You don't see many films with the reverse that do well.

Julian Foster
Julian Foster

because it's obvious that they are plastic.

But stormtrooper armor has always been plastic.

Blake Thompson
Blake Thompson

I wonder if RotS let us see the place where the Castle was eventually built

Henry Ramirez
Henry Ramirez

You already posted this

Liam Gonzalez
Liam Gonzalez

really made me think

Jayden Price
Jayden Price

this will never be a meme
everyone will ignore it whenever it appears in these threads

Daniel Nguyen
Daniel Nguyen

People do tend to take audience scores over critic scores, since 90% of critics get paid to shill and only nerds who super hardcore care about Star Wars/OT are probably pissed enough to bother leaving a review.

Liam Brown
Liam Brown

are you fucking retarded? If /tv/ had that kind of power, they would push audience scores of MCU movies down.

Jace Roberts
Jace Roberts

Star Wars is never a good barometer for an average.
The RT score has been compromised by an intentional smear campaign from /tv/

Parker James
Parker James

Aside from a higher payload, these just seemed so inferior to Y-Wings. Slow as shit, no manoeuvrability and lit up like paper instantly.

Adrian Jenkins
Adrian Jenkins

Fucking hell. That man is a awful director and needs to be booted.

Can someone please tell me what the themes were for TFA and TLJ?

Because I sure as heck can't tell.

Evan Bell
Evan Bell

So like Russians, libturd?

Jaxon Diaz
Jaxon Diaz

Do NOT bully the Rose or think about massaging her pudgy, puffy cheeks

Joshua Stewart
Joshua Stewart

Would you fuck a Maz?
I'd fuck a Maz.

Jace White
Jace White

are you fucking retarded? If /tv/ had that kind of power, they would push audience scores of MCU movies down.

They don't have that kind of cohesion. Star Wars is a big obvious target.

Nolan Sanders
Nolan Sanders

Create a grassroots movement that will spread like wildfire among the actually witty fan base.

Jesus Christ you are one self-delusional cunt.

Nolan Mitchell
Nolan Mitchell

Anyone have a link of fake Luke fighting Kylo with the Dragon Ball Super song?

Adam Williams
Adam Williams

I wish we could have gotten JJ's vision of TFA 2 because even if it was shallow at least I would have had fun

Kylo Ren, I guess. Though I wish they continued his character as an angry manbaby Darth Vader wannabe instead of elevating him to final boss status for the next movie. The force stuff was neat too, and the reveal of Rey's shitty parents/lineage.

Xavier Murphy
Xavier Murphy

Hot damn that's perfect. And it's not like it's ONE perfect shot, it's 24 perfect shots per seconds, and there were many seconds.

Rian is a master of artistic direction.

Daniel Reed
Daniel Reed

Friggin B-wings have a higher on-screen killcount than those turds. I mean Goddamn I love the design but like everything else in TLJ it got set up to be so awesome and was just thrown away and forgotten for the sake of explosions. There's more fucking flashing lights to attract ADD normies than in TFA.

Adrian Lee
Adrian Lee

A thought.

Finn would have been better and more interesting a character had he never removed the helmet.

Just a Renegade Trooper doing what he thought was right.

Anthony Smith
Anthony Smith

Who passes out like that?

Lincoln Powell
Lincoln Powell

People do tend to take audience scores over critic scores

I don't have a brainlet Wojak big enough for your stupid ass. No regular, normal, adjusted person looks at the userscore to decide if they want to see a movie. Please go outside.

Jayden Lewis
Jayden Lewis

TFA seemed to be Found Family > Blood Family + Trying to reassure audiences this would be like the OT I guess.

Cooper Gutierrez
Cooper Gutierrez

Holy God delete that picture

Jacob Jenkins
Jacob Jenkins

https://streamable.com/kslts

Jose Young
Jose Young

Look at all that training Rey didn't end up doing at all in the movie. Good thing she ended up having a lot to learn at the end of the movieoh wait no she's the strongest most powerfulest Jedi in the universe now thanks Obama.

Logan Green
Logan Green

Nah, just a lurker on the fleet junkies thread. Y u no share TLJ phone pics?

Daniel Wilson
Daniel Wilson

TFA
REMEMBER STAR WARS?
TLJ
FUCK REMEMBERING STAR WARS

Ryder Miller
Ryder Miller

Too late you have already seen it

Hudson Barnes
Hudson Barnes

His TFA "arc" was all over the place, nothing would've changed that

Gavin Brooks
Gavin Brooks

They did same to be able to take a couple of hits at least, Y-Wings were always ridiculously fragile in comparison.

These TLJ bombers seem pretty sturdy, it's just awful luck that takes out 3/4 in one go.

I'd still take speed over payload, but I do dig the Memphis Belle vibe they had going.

Jordan Thompson
Jordan Thompson

IX is remember Star Wars again

Adrian Davis
Adrian Davis

Thanks bro.

Nathaniel Williams
Nathaniel Williams

/tv/ still obsessed with kneejerk user scores from a controversial movie
crossposters pls go

William Howard
William Howard

How would pic related be if he was recruited into the Jedi Order?

Adrian Campbell
Adrian Campbell

I wish you mouse shills and /pol/ fags died in a nuclear holocaust caused by NK.

Alexander King
Alexander King

TLJ ICS to clarify A bit of glare is fine

Lucas Howard
Lucas Howard

oh wow how kewl
this totally makes up for jobbing two times in a row

Michael Anderson
Michael Anderson

she's the strongest most powerfulest Jedi in the universe
I mean

she's the only Jedi in the universe

Christian Ramirez
Christian Ramirez

and now the gross faggot will post the rest of the set including the one with krennic

its obviously thuleanon

do you mean phone pics of the TLJ reference books or pics taken of the movie itself? because I'm not such a huge asshole as to bring out my cellphone in the middle of a crowded theater

as for books, the ICS pages are laminated with a material that produces the most glare I've ever fucking seen in my life, I can hardly even read it let alone take a photograph

at least take this BF2 screenshot

Caleb Morgan
Caleb Morgan

One shots everyone. Turns into the dark side because he was hungry

Nicholas Bennett
Nicholas Bennett

Finn would have been a fine character if he was a cantankerous career soldier who doesn't turn into lel wacky quipman the second he leaves the FO.
If he slowly opened over time he'd have been a great character

Jose Walker
Jose Walker

she's the strongest most powerfulest Jedi in the universe now thanks Obama.
all she did all movie was kill two guards, threaten Luke with his saber and lift some rocks

Charles Fisher
Charles Fisher

TLJ
FUCK REMEMBERING STAR WARS but also remember Star Wars?

ftfy

Cooper White
Cooper White

higher kill count

Literally one of these takes out a Dreadnought. It didn't hit a super weak point or anything either, it just shat bombs all over it and took the whole thing out in one go.

Cameron Garcia
Cameron Garcia

Wouldn't he be a grey Jedi like Qui Gon?

Isaiah Thompson
Isaiah Thompson

i don't know why they didn't play on the weird maternal relationship with finn.

Christopher Perry
Christopher Perry

I've never posted on /tv/ in my life, but I still think it's significant.

Angel Myers
Angel Myers

I mean that is more in line with how he is in TLJ. I don't think he quips at all.

Samuel Rodriguez
Samuel Rodriguez

How likely do you think that Disney cancels Rian's trilogy?
I say 50/50 chance

Kayden Cook
Kayden Cook

hurrbrdurr brainlet memes
People do this, though. Word of mouth is more powerful than the opinions of somebody who is perceived as being paid to promote something.

Robert Powell
Robert Powell

But OT had its foundation in Old Space and Adventure Serials, WWII films and Errol Flynn movies.

All TFA and TLJ do for the most is ape OT. Which is the utterly wrong idea when looking to make a sequels.

Hell Solo movie I've got more hope for. Its drawing from Wild West and Heist movies so it'll have a good underpinning structure and not be a mess of references and half thought ideas of reinvention.

Carter Hernandez
Carter Hernandez

If you're unfamiliar with movies, almost every financially well-off but unliked movie has a low user score. This has been a thing forever.

I'm not sure if Star Wars fans are just stupid or don't care about anything but Star Wars but this has been a phenomenon for the last ten years or so.

Andrew Rivera
Andrew Rivera

Eh, she didn't really job this time, just had barely any time or fight before being uncerimoniously defeated

Adam Gonzalez
Adam Gonzalez

It very much depends on the next couple of weeks of revenue. If the whole thing doesn't affect sales and they get another billion or two they'll probably give him a slap on the wrist.

But if it underperforms I guarantee you he's gone.

Juan Wright
Juan Wright

I know what the acceptable amount of glare is. This is from the Rogue One artbook. This is the glare I get from taking a phone pic of that. The TLJ ICS glare obscures half the page. I don't know what I'm going to do with it.

ugh why did I reddit space so badly

Luis Martin
Luis Martin

Yeah I goofed, I meant the ICS. Was sad about the glare. I just want info on the Libertine (and the Kuhlvult connection) after reading about it

Jace Wood
Jace Wood

kek

Ryan Wilson
Ryan Wilson

They can sell off Star Wars again if they so pleased if it meant bringing in more billions to recoup from buying up Fox. They already surely made back their 4 billion from buying SW in the first place. They can cancel Rian's trilogy if they feel like it, or suddenly give it to JJ instead.

Carson Phillips
Carson Phillips

not be a mess of references and half thought ideas of reinvention.
you're more optimistic than you probably should be

Xavier Morales
Xavier Morales

Qui-Gon was never a gray Jedi

Luis Miller
Luis Miller

THIS is how it is done. The correct way.

Robert Butler
Robert Butler

cantankerous career soldier

I'm a sucker for that, but would this really have worked for his role?

Parker Wood
Parker Wood

I really liked Snoke's throne room desu, it looked like something you would see in a 70's sci-fi movie or on a sci-fi novel's cover.

Isaac King
Isaac King

she got beaten by a janitor

Brandon Peterson
Brandon Peterson

Hopefully someone from kaskus scans it soon enough

Isaiah Nelson
Isaiah Nelson

He always grey. His biggest character trait in TPM was him telling the Council to shove it

Jacob Bailey
Jacob Bailey

Yeah. There are alot of fun things you can do in the Star Wars universe if you just act like Tarantino and imitate old classical movies, but stick them in space.

I'd love to see a full on Italian job style Heist Movie set in the SWU, for instance.

Gavin Cruz
Gavin Cruz

Not in the way KOTOR defines it, but his actions annoy the council.

Thomas Wright
Thomas Wright

dat Total War Warhammer kick

Cameron Gutierrez
Cameron Gutierrez

First movie makes the fans happy
Second movie makes the fans mad so they really desperately want to be happy again
Third movie makes the fans happy just like the first movie, but because it comes after 2 it seems way more refreshing and is thought of as a way better movie

So The Last Jedi is the New Coke of Star Wars?

Colton Scott
Colton Scott

That's not being gray, though.

Isaiah Perez
Isaiah Perez

His role in TFA was to be a defector. It'd have worked the same.

Ayden Scott
Ayden Scott

that doesn't make him a Grey Jedi, though. He's still firmly part of the Jedi Order, and still firmly light-side only

Carson Williams
Carson Williams

Justice League wound up with like an 80 percent. Bayformers 1 has an 85 percent and they didn't go as low as TLJ until like the third one, even if the sequels went way lower. James Cameron's Avatar is still in the 80's in both categories.

To go as low as TLJ isn't the norm. You can do it, but it isn't the norm.

Hudson Sanders
Hudson Sanders

Will this make Solo the Crystal Pepsi?

Ryan Baker
Ryan Baker

B-wings have taken out cruisers, star destroyers, and even plenty of fighters in canon (though mostly in text)

Ok so The Libertine was formerly the property of a Kuati emissary named Valis of Kuhlvult and it was named The Steadfast then.

The name Kuhlvult was the lost ancestry of a mysterious character in the Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy of EU novels, which detail the background of Boba Fett before hunting Han Solo and how he escaped from the Sarlacc and the aftermath of that.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kateel_of_Kuhlvult

Adrian Martinez
Adrian Martinez

That would be the heist for the plans of the Second Death Star.

Justin Price
Justin Price

Episode 9: Heir of the First Order
Focus shifts from the Resistance being it's own entity (without Fisher now) to focusing on how they infiltrate and bring down the FO from the inside
They put effort toward learning who created the FO and commanded it from the get-go: Rae Sloane
The big final act is Kylo vs Rey and Finn Sloane
Hux just sits back and waits to see who will win and be his new bully

David Williams
David Williams

Yes it is.
That's pretty much the definition.
Jedi who thinks the rules are dumb but doesn't go full Vader/Dooku

Gabriel Gutierrez
Gabriel Gutierrez

She'll be back, even shinier and more useless than ever.

Parker Robinson
Parker Robinson

Dash Rendar gets replaced by a flat British girl
NO JUSTICE
NO PEACE

Landon Hill
Landon Hill

Why would he turn just for being hungry?

Christopher Lopez
Christopher Lopez

So either have him as unexperienced soldier (but still not the massive faggot we see in the early Jakku scenes where he looks like someone who never had any kind of military training) or as just a lowly employee who did small tasks and had no loyalty to the FO in the first place
Why mix the two?

Samuel Long
Samuel Long

I'm reading the reviews right now and they are as barebones as "BEST MOVIE EVER!!" and "wtf Luke was disgraced" with 5 stars and 1 stars respectfully.

This is why its not taken seriously. All you have to do is write a sentence and a number.

Noah Moore
Noah Moore

Gray Jedi implies being between light and dark.

Oliver Gutierrez
Oliver Gutierrez

Tom Hardy is in the movie, where I dunno.

Zachary Brown
Zachary Brown

Dash's VA is dead

Landon Harris
Landon Harris

Grey Jedi has always been defined as either:
Force user who uses both the dark side and the light
Jedi who leaves the Order but doesn't fall to the dark side
Qui-Gon is neither of those

Josiah Brown
Josiah Brown

Personally I don't see him being a great jedi unless he got a master who could channel his aggression.

Hunter Scott
Hunter Scott

Mace?

Christopher Collins
Christopher Collins

What class is the Libertine? please be a Pinnacle class from Vekker Corp

Oh and half a page of glare is fine, any effort appreciated.

Xavier Walker
Xavier Walker

Jedi who leaves the Order but doesn't fall to the dark side
That really depended on the Council.
If the Council yeah nah get out if you want to train Anakin, he'd do exactly that.

James Fisher
James Fisher

Mace is halfway to the dark side though

Matthew Powell
Matthew Powell

There are a large number of them that are multi paragraph and explain exactly why, get your head out your ass.

Brayden Adams
Brayden Adams

Finn being a cowardly space janitor soldier who overcomes his fears to help Rey was a pretty good start to his character arc. He just got wasted in TLJ.

I kinda wondered if he was going to be a force user who would be hunted by Kylo and have to face him again considering he managed to actually get a hit in during their lightsaber fight in TFA and Kyle sensed him on Jakku. But nah, quipman I guess.

Jordan Howard
Jordan Howard

I wasn't able to find the artbook at Barnes and Noble, anybody got scans of ship concepts?

Owen Gomez
Owen Gomez

MY SIDES with Snoke

Sebastian Campbell
Sebastian Campbell

To the Jedi, anyone who doesn't hate themselves for feeling emotions is dark side, so a normal person would necessarily be Grey

Gabriel Foster
Gabriel Foster

I don't think so. Mace is a bit too law and order about things in the bigger picture and his flaws aren't Goku's flaws.

Samuel Ramirez
Samuel Ramirez

Here are some more PRACTICAL EFFECTS from episode II AOTC.

You faggots really have no clue what is real in Star Wars do you?

Daniel Young
Daniel Young

le bothans joke
Someone please post that macro

Christian Gonzalez
Christian Gonzalez

When I first watched TFA, I was so sure that there was a "Forcey" sound effect in the opening scene where Finn touches his friend's bloody helmet.
But I guess not

Tyler Lopez
Tyler Lopez

no one is talking about practical effects you blind cunt

Angel Kelly
Angel Kelly

Damn it, I meant a good heist movie!

Ian James
Ian James

JJ's best option is to use Jacen's last arc for something to copy. A lot of normies will think it's original and a lot of fan boys will eat it up because it's an EU homage

Hell, the prospect of having Rey train on Mandalore would hype up Rebels fans.

Jack Jackson
Jack Jackson

That's EU

Samuel Garcia
Samuel Garcia

Kill two elite guards meant to defend the fucking Space Hilter Wizard.
Went toe to toe with Kylo Ren who killed the aformentioned wizard and is now big poppa leader of Sauron's Army.
Get one over on Luke fucking Skywalker: Jedi Master.

John Collins
John Collins

The small scale of the movie makes the First Order seem way more effective than it is. They blew up four ships and killed a couple hundred people while taking losses numbering in the thousands, lost their leader, got a new leader who is an incompetent retard, and lost several ships when it's said there are still several systems they don't control.

Benjamin Perez
Benjamin Perez

The Han Solo movie will be good

R-Right?

Jeremiah Scott
Jeremiah Scott

I don't disagree. But the point is the mixture of the two is why people don't care about user reviews. Video games get bad user reviews by the bucketload on the regular and people still buy them en masse. I know you want someone or something to pay for the crimes executed against Luke or whatever, but I'm just prepping you for the fact that this movie will still make bank. Not as much as TFA, but no movie on earth can make as much as that did (first Star Wars in a long time with good word of mouth backing it up).

Just remember kids: /tv/ is always wrong.

Brandon James
Brandon James

With the way things have been going, we'll get some other planet of edgy space warriors that looks like Mandalore, but isn't.

Colton Diaz
Colton Diaz

The upside for Finn is that he wasn't character assassinated in TLJ. It's just that nothing his character did mattered.

I guess the same could be said for Rey and Kylo, in that nothing went wrong with their characterization/development so far.

The same cannot be said for Luke/Leia/Poe

Nathaniel Gonzalez
Nathaniel Gonzalez

It's a custom yacht from Guild d'Lanseaux, there is no class given as its one of a kind

Adrian Russell
Adrian Russell

What about Qui Gon then?

Jack Davis
Jack Davis

Disney will have to double down on Han nostalgia without Harrison and OT era ships and people to make it not be hated to the level it should be

Anthony Davis
Anthony Davis

finn's friend dies in his arms
he has a small breakdown and kylo for some reason cares about this and stares right at him
there has been an awakening
kylo already looked finn up and knows his serial number etc when poe escapes
finn holding the lightsaber and using it in battle against stormtroopers and Kylo

Poor John Boyega, he was so hyped about getting to wield a lightsaber and possibly becoming a Jedi.

Carson Sanchez
Carson Sanchez

Pretty much.

Owen Gomez
Owen Gomez

sadly this is all I got, from an Amazon review

Ethan Hernandez
Ethan Hernandez

Not a chance in hell.
I've been rewatching Ron Howard's movies and well... They don't have pizzazz. They're very flat movies. Competent but without style.

Connor Hall
Connor Hall

People will say it'll suck if only because they can.

Caleb Brown
Caleb Brown

Miniature construction is a time honored tradition.

Well it could be one about raiding an old Emperor Storehouse.

Post Endor someone gets a lead on some artifacts stashed in some burned out world the Emperor had glassed.

they have to delve deep into the bowels of a ghost planet ending up in a Cat and Mouse game with some Imperial remnant after the same treasures.

Liam Butler
Liam Butler

They don't have pizzazz. They're very flat movies. Competent but without style.
Sounds just like TFA, so it'll make money and get rave reviews.

Hudson Price
Hudson Price

Galaxy of Fear adaptation when?

Robert Russell
Robert Russell

Because it's supposed to plastic you fucking nigger.

Lincoln Bell
Lincoln Bell

Everyone keeps saying PT CGI. So im here to bury the retard bullshit.

So suck a dick.

Daniel Wright
Daniel Wright

How's the milk?

Jayden Allen
Jayden Allen

I can't really say that.
TFA had a LOT of flaws, but it had some pretty moments.
Like this one.

And the iconic blue/red lightsaber struggle at the end.

Noah Garcia
Noah Garcia

duhhh whenever luke wasnt on the screen it was filler
How did these faggots get through ESB?

Oliver Martin
Oliver Martin

Has Ron Howard ever made a bad movie?

Carter Evans
Carter Evans

Any Star Wars movie released around Christmas is gonna make huge bank. The kids love lightsabers and toys so damn much.

Thomas Richardson
Thomas Richardson

I've never understood caring this much for the opinion of others or getting so mad that you'll want to actively do as humanly possible to sabotage a piece of work by the entertainment industry either
And I personally got real mad at vidya in my life

Wyatt Robinson
Wyatt Robinson

Do people really think that low user scores will accomplish anything? JJ is still doing IX so its not like he wasn't going to bring Luke back, and Disney knew about how risky TLJ was when they offered him the trilogy

What's the endgoal here?

Camden Wilson
Camden Wilson

Rae Sloane was 20 years older than Luke and Leia. If she had a kid, they'd be way older than Finn, and considering how much she hated Brendol Hux, there's no way she let him have her son if she had one.

Liam Sanchez
Liam Sanchez

First Order was most effective in the last movie where they used one laser blast to destroy 4 planets, wiping out the entire republic.

Isaac Kelly
Isaac Kelly

Luke's greatest triumph is when he overcomes his fear and hatred of the dark side, throws away his lightsaber, and refuses to kill his father.

TLJ tells us that Luke's greatest failure is fifteen years later when he, upon seeing the dark side in his nephew, instinctively turns on his lightsaber to kill him out of fear.

If you don't see a problem with this, you are being ridiculous.

Nathaniel Peterson
Nathaniel Peterson

thanks for the info

Dominic Sullivan
Dominic Sullivan

Twi'lek females are mostly used as slaves and entertainers user. That concept doesn't fly in our "civilized" year of 2017 anymore. Slavery is not PG enough for Disney.
Never mind the fact that at this moment thousands of people are being sold as sex slave in third world countries.

Matthew Cooper
Matthew Cooper

I'm going to try to kill this right now before we get another retarded thread for the 10,000th time.

The Prequels were not exclusively CGI but they used it more than any other movies before it. No other movie series used CGI to the extend and ambition that George did at that time. Was the technology there yet? Many people say no. And that's their rightful opinion.
SFX is about illusion. It's about making the unreal seem real. If the illusion worked for you, then all the better. If it didn't, then that's all good too.

Adrian Roberts
Adrian Roberts

Bossk is doing good for himself these days

Levi Russell
Levi Russell

movie is basically all done
two drectors are fired two weeks from filmings ending
huge director gets hired
If it doesn't show glaring signs of development hell I'll be shocked

Juan Sullivan
Juan Sullivan

It's been fifteen years and he sees his beloved apprentice and son of his best friend murdering everyone in a quick flash.

It was a split-second thing. He takes a little to chill in the Throne Room as well. Luke isn't a perfect being, and him being a perfect and calm individual makes for shitty storytelling.

Joseph Bell
Joseph Bell

She didn't make it to the time when Phasma joined the FO, yet Brendol did. She could have had Finn in secret and kept him stashed away somewhere, only for her secret to be discovered. She could be killed off for "not offering a child to the cause" but really for paving the way for Brendol to take the reigns.

Zachary Robinson
Zachary Robinson

Eh the The Da Vinci Code movies went on for too long but I think Blame lies a lot in the Studio taking such a damn long time getting them done.

I always like Willow and Apollo 13

Henry Mitchell
Henry Mitchell

Did you see Ron Howard posting instagram pictures of sets and stuff like every day after he got hired? It was really comfy. Apparently the crew gave a big applause when he showed up too.

Everything about the movie sounds really comfy actually, besides Han's mentor apparently dying

Jayden Davis
Jayden Davis

who the fuck cares about a non-ford solo anyway?

Justin Parker
Justin Parker

A few, but he's made a lot more good than bad

Lucas Nelson
Lucas Nelson

So who the fuck was Snoke?

Zachary Morgan
Zachary Morgan

Everyone keeps saying PT CGI
the conversation was already over
wew

Lincoln Thompson
Lincoln Thompson

He was Ezra Bridger

Robert Lee
Robert Lee

Disc one final boss

Michael Mitchell
Michael Mitchell

Han's mentor apparently dying
Oh, so it's a SW movie?

Qui Gonn
O66
Kenobi
Yoda
LST
Han Solo
Luke
Kanan

Jonathan Edwards
Jonathan Edwards

Darth Plagueis the Wise

William Gomez
William Gomez

I'm not arguing for what makes for a "realistic" character (because you could argue it pretty much any way).

I'm talking about how this is a crappy story point that shits over Luke's character arc. They took his greatest triumph and turned it into his greatest failure, and then tried to sell it as a "split-second lapse in judgment".

While we're at it, why don't we make Leia's final act a split-second consideration of whether she should betray the resistance?

Colton Brooks
Colton Brooks

Ron makes mediocre and forgettable movies more often than not, which I guess is the best we can expect from the disastrous production

Lincoln Nguyen
Lincoln Nguyen

We'll find out in IX or a book. Probably IX because the potential for duality with Luke visiting Rey and Snoke visiting Kylo is too good to pass up.

Ten bucks the final fight is like the Crash Bandicoot Warped boss where they are duking it out in the background as ghosts while Kylo and Rey go at it.

Xavier Adams
Xavier Adams

Emperor Gestahl

Caleb Perry
Caleb Perry

Not all done but a good way through mainly because the Directors were in over their fucking heads and kept dodging and ignoring the writer.

yea it would have been a comedic adlib mess.

Noah Butler
Noah Butler

normies

John Perez
John Perez

Can someone please tell me what the themes were for TFA and TLJ?
Thought it was pretty obvious that TLJ was about choosing the right side and not knowing which side is the good/bad side.
red capes on posters and luke representing both light and dark
luke not giving a shit about the jedi anymore and thinks it was all for nothing
rey trying to turn rey
kylo trying to turn rey and wants to start over
snoke brags about not getting betrayed then gets betrayed
yoda ends up burning the secret archives
poe going against orders because he thinks holdo is a traitor
holdo arrests poe because she thinks that he's a traitor
rose catches finn trying to desert
finn and rose getting betrayed by DJ and DJ telling them that there's not much difference between the empire and rebels
leia stuns poe because poe was betraying the resistance
phasma ends up coming back despite betraying the first order
finn is reminded about betraying the first order
It's not like they shoehorned it in or anything.

Charles Miller
Charles Miller

That's how Lex Luthor thinks, that no one should be perfect.

Yes, Luke should be the idealized Jedi, because he is, he perceived more than the Old guard did and Saw light within Vader.

Charles Jones
Charles Jones

they are all dead

Noah Bennett
Noah Bennett

I looked thru the book. Honestly the least impressive of all the "art of" books.

Carson Gomez
Carson Gomez

Think they'll have that on Batuu?

Jonathan Thomas
Jonathan Thomas

I personally didn't mind it at all and I'm surprised at the level of hate being thrown at it. Still given that Rogue One was received much more positively here maybe this is genuine hate, though since this is one of the "big" SWs movies and not a "mere" anthology maybe there is a bigger invasion.

Might also be some mitigating factors, such as I really didn't give a shit who Snoke was or where he came from. I really didn't care at all for him and didn't mind seeing him go out like a bitch.

I doubt it. Cue theories that Kylo was either straight up lying to her because he's running this mad notion that it is HIS story because he's a Skywalker - pretty meta but there would be some justification in that he thinks of himself as a great link in a chain of destiny. Otherwise, yeah, it's ridiculous since even goddamn Anakin was from lowly background and so was Luke, on top of the fact that many powerful Jedi were no-doubt found in what we might consider mediocre circumstances. The Force doesn't give a shit, some powerful people were found and trained living with painfully normie parents. It was never about powerful Force family dynasties.

Christopher Morales
Christopher Morales

Now that Luke's dead and force ghosting, he could actually annoy his nephew all the time
I see what you did there
stop masturbating to the dark side
you suck
Rey is better than you
I am everywhere
your grandpa was a loser
supreme leader? More like supreme loser, amirite?

Jace Robinson
Jace Robinson

All these people thinking Luke is dead forever
Luminous beings are we. Not this crude matter.

Carter Long
Carter Long

STILL not realizing that it was described as a moment of "I could just end all of this now" reflection and not a IMMA SURE KILL MAH NEFFYU
Repeating this ten times a thread doesn't make it more true and I speak as someone who didn't like Luke's "arc" either

Robert Roberts
Robert Roberts

That's amateur hour trolling.
Luke learned from the master himself.

Evan Robinson
Evan Robinson

To make the biggest clusterfuck of all time, while manipulating the unsuspecting, extremely vocal, and soon to be matriarchal audience that it is pure cinematic kino because it's fresh, new, and progressive in what turns out to be the most predictable way possible.

Xavier Smith
Xavier Smith

Uncle Luke is watching you shit

Jason Collins
Jason Collins

Luke and Han hadn't spoken in years
Leie and Han had been separated for years
Luke and Leia hadn't spoken in years, and when he returns they don't even physically meet each other.

Thanks.

Noah Martin
Noah Martin

Split second consideration to betray the resistance to save say, Han and Luke and Kylo Ren? Seems fine to me. You're making it sound like Luke's fleeting desire to kill Kylo Ren was done for shits and giggles. The thought entered his mind because he thought it would prevent a greater, universe spanning tragedy, and it would have too if he had gone through with it and succeeded.

Connor Johnson
Connor Johnson

that's not telling me where it draws inspiration from.

Lincoln Rodriguez
Lincoln Rodriguez

Obi-wan, Yoda, Qui-gon, and Anakin are still dead despite having force ghost forms. Luke is the same now.

Brandon Wilson
Brandon Wilson

What the fuck does this prove? Director, crew and actors may be buddies but if the script says one thing, directors shoots another and in the cut it's made to be yet another thing the result's still shit mate

Ryder Sanchez
Ryder Sanchez

Our Kefka Ren needs a better sense of humor.

Scratch that, he needs a sense of humor

Luis Foster
Luis Foster

There's so much talk about Mark Hammil not returning for IX and how Luke's story is totally over

Owen Reed
Owen Reed

Willow
You know I finally saw this for the first time just a few days ago and its truly an excellent movie and theres an interesting parallel between it and the last 3 Star Wars movies.

Like TFA, TLJ, and to a lesser extent Rogue One, it dumps you right into the middle of a fantastic setting without giving any real explanation whats going on or the background of anybody or anything going on. Unlike those 3 movies however, the plot is so excellently written and well paced that its immediately accessible and comprehensible without you having to turn your brain into a pretzel to suspend your disbelief. While you are left wanting more, the movie is so satisfying, you don't feel like you desperately NEED more - again, unlike the last three movies.

Josiah Scott
Josiah Scott

The funny thing about that pic is that it is NOT CGI. It's a standard matte painting technique. Sure they were still digitally superimposed, however I would argue the bigger problem here wasn't so much CGI but rather the increase in film image quality standards. As definition increases it becomes increasingly harder to hide all the flaws, especially in a still image.

Lucas Hill
Lucas Hill

Unless it's coming from Mark Hamill himself or JJ then you are only falling for bait from upset "fans"

Brandon Reyes
Brandon Reyes

And then Ren always summons an entire legion of stormtroopers to shot at Luke's projection. And summons several star destroyers to shoot at it too.
psyke
I was a projection again (you'll never find out that I am already dead, you loser)

Brandon Hill
Brandon Hill

Holdo never thought Poe was a traitor, she just thought he was a fuccboi, and also wanted to fuck him.

Joseph Perry
Joseph Perry

I think it's a composite.
The far distance is obviously a matte painting but the foreground structures are totally CGI
Those columns definitely are

Jeremiah Thomas
Jeremiah Thomas

Abrams won't give a single fuck unless he does a complicated retcon and Disney won't let him

Connor Mitchell
Connor Mitchell

You're making it sound like Luke's fleeting desire to kill Kylo Ren was done for shits and giggles.
I'm specifically saying it was done for edge.

And you're still defending Luke's decision, and not the writer's decision to have events play out that way.

Again - why would you take take Luke, beloved hero of the rebellion, take his greatest moment of triumph and turn it into his greatest failure, and even on the flimsiest medium that it was a split-second instinct?

Why not just not have it at all?

Oliver Stewart
Oliver Stewart

Exactly. Instead Luke will just set his collection of Vader memorabilia on fire and just as Ben's bitch tears start to flow Luke just grins and walks backwards so he fades into the wall. Yet his voice is still audible as he says, "Oh, I met Han in the afterlife. He said to tell you that he's not your real daddy, Ben Binks."

Jace Moore
Jace Moore

Couldn't she have just told her the plan when he mutiny'd?

Parker Turner
Parker Turner

i want luke and yoda trolling kylo pretty badly

Aiden Ramirez
Aiden Ramirez

Everyone is and always have been since they're fucking idiots and can't discern practical from CG fx.

Asher Myers
Asher Myers

And even then, I don't buy it for sure. Remember how JJ said Kahn wasn't in Star Trek 2?

Nicholas Rodriguez
Nicholas Rodriguez

How is she supposed to justify putting Poe in her BDSM sex dungeon then, hmm? Didn't think about that, now, did you?

Jason Phillips
Jason Phillips

The only saving grace of disney wars would be the third "middle" movie. If they do the one thing everyone wants. Fuck solo and death star plans, you know what we want.
Prime Vader. A darth vader movie about darth vader being darth vader. What he did as a general of the empire between episodes 3 and 4. Crushing rebels, leading his stormtroopers into the battle, executing the occasional hidden jedi. Come on, mouse. Do it. DO IT.

Elijah Ortiz
Elijah Ortiz

Like I said, I do not think JJ will just let all those mysteries and plot points he instituted all go away just like that. I feel that Luke will be redeemed by JJ, and that he'll reveal that Snoke had a hand on his attempt to kill Ben., thus making Snoke a bigger threat Psychologically than he was Physically

Nathaniel Butler
Nathaniel Butler

Why was Edward Hitler in Star Wars?

Dominic Collins
Dominic Collins

If anything, Anakin would join in on helping Luke fuck with his grandson. I mean, it was probably Snoke that was keeping him from talking to Ben before...

Isaac White
Isaac White

Wendig's awful shit
in the movies
ever
Please god no.

Isaac Hernandez
Isaac Hernandez

http://www.starwars.com/news/from-concept-to-screen-the-jedi-temple

Many of the hallways in both Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith were realized as partial sets with miniatures added by ILM and in the cases where you see more then the hallway (like Episode II’s hallway with Yoda and Mace Windu talking or Episode III’s outside view) a matte painting was used to complete the shot.

Luke Morris
Luke Morris

So, who owns Ahsoka's whom?!

Samuel Foster
Samuel Foster

Where the fuck IS Anakin during all of Ben's life?
Like you think a good talking to would be in order

Dylan Smith
Dylan Smith

I'm specifically saying it was done for edge.
But it wasn't. See: the Yoda scene.
why would you take take Luke, beloved hero of the rebellion, take his greatest moment of triumph and turn it into his greatest failure
Because the moral of the movie is that everyone fails but what matters is that we learn from failure instead of wallowing in it.

Josiah Sanchez
Josiah Sanchez

As someone who regularly complains about edginess in Star Wars, particularly in Rogue One, that scene was one of the few scene in the ST that wasn't edgy, and was, in fact, kino, along with Snoke's defeat.

Nicholas Evans
Nicholas Evans

What a shit film. I'm pissed off.

Blake Lee
Blake Lee

Thought it was pretty obvious that TLJ was about choosing the right side and not knowing which side is the good/bad side.

Not really. There is never any question in TLJ as to what is the good/bad side.

If anything, TLJ's message is that good intentions can still lead to bad outcomes.

Tyler Carter
Tyler Carter

Do you think Episode IX is going to be the definitive final chapter of the Skywalker Saga? The Skywalker bloodline seems very limited at this point and I can't see things stretching out for another trilogy. A story with a definitive beginning, middle, and end is good, and it makes sense to have three trilogies to represent each act.

Benjamin Rivera
Benjamin Rivera

FINALLY someone saying that
Rogue One is only good for the first five minutes and then from like one hour in, mostly for the /m/, the overall battle scenario and the story not being ridiculously choppy anymore

Colton Lee
Colton Lee

That's what I said.
To complete the shot a matte painting was used. Those columns in the foreground are so obviously earlys 2000s CGI

Brayden Roberts
Brayden Roberts

She didn't make it to the time when Phasma joined the FO, yet Brendol did

That's because Brendol Hux is a sneaky cunt. I wouldn't put it past him to have had Sloane assassinated sometime just after Aftermath.

Cooper Cook
Cooper Cook

Because Luke wasn't perfect and he made mistakes. You want Luke to be some perfect boring unchanging paragon of goodness when even in the OT he was never like that.

There's nothing wrong with a mistake leading to Kylo's turn. Why not have it at all? Because it makes Kylo's fall more personal for Luke. If Kylo had just fucked off and killed Luke's students out of nowhere he wouldn't have such a stake in the whole thing. He wouldn't feel responsible and he probably wouldn't have fucked off to crotchtitland, so the entire premise of the movie/trilogy would be gone.

Dylan Ortiz
Dylan Ortiz

Anakin's a not-dark sidy. Killer Ben wanted to talk with Darth Vader, who's totally a dark sidy.

John Edwards
John Edwards

all he wants is a Vader movie
reddit

Benjamin Hall
Benjamin Hall

I suppose some people could hold out hope that Snoke manipulated what Kylo Ren saw as Rey's parents because Kylo is easier to control when he's full Vaderbu.

Mason Martinez
Mason Martinez

So what's your opinion on Rose? I thought her Canto Bight sidequest was kinda pointless, but I didn't actually mind her as a character, so I was surprised to see she's probably the most hated character from TLJ, and not someone like Holdo or DJ.

Noah Kelly
Noah Kelly

To show we all make mistakes its how we chose or chose not tonrectify those mkstakes that matter

Ryder Jones
Ryder Jones

Rey is a nobody, but it also means that she can be anybody.

She'll take the Skywalker name.

Brayden Thomas
Brayden Thomas

The main character's son of the Aftermath Trilogy was already in TFA user. Hate Wendig all you want but his name being on something won't stop it from being used elsewhere.

Thomas King
Thomas King

He already did that when Leia was in charge, she just needed to let him know that she was now in Leia's post.

Robert Robinson
Robert Robinson

Good.

Brandon Bell
Brandon Bell

None of that says CGI, user. Miniature models and matte paintings, neither are CGI.

Caleb Hall
Caleb Hall

How was DJ?

Gavin Adams
Gavin Adams

When did everything go so wrong?

Brayden Foster
Brayden Foster

Yeah, I didn't have a problem with her. The actress did a fine job.

Easton Wood
Easton Wood

34 years
PT ended 34years ago? Damn.

Dominic Bailey
Dominic Bailey

Didn't mind her. Thought the worst character was DJ honestly.
hurr I'm a criminal
hurr I betray you
okay b-b-b-bye
Felt like a giant waste of casting.

Carson Cruz
Carson Cruz

Having ghost sex with ghost Padme and ghost Ahsoka in ghost land.

Jaxon Smith
Jaxon Smith

Absolutely fucking terrible and had no reason to exist.

Connor Reyes
Connor Reyes

he thinks Sloane is Wendig's shit
Next time you should at least pretend like you've actually read the books if you're going to talk about them.

Luis Thompson
Luis Thompson

He was meh. Benicio shows up, stutters a bit, betrays them, and that's it. Kind of a waste of him as an actor.

Matthew Walker
Matthew Walker

What happened to that shithead anyway? Did he die?

Zachary Cox
Zachary Cox

I really liked everything about her except for the fact she's a total dog in the looks department. Fuckable, but not desirable.

tfw no tsundere Laura Dern or Carrie Fisher lusting after your top gun cock
ITS NOT FAIR

Isaac Collins
Isaac Collins

Only there since Disney had to fill the check list for Diversity Resistance

Alexander Davis
Alexander Davis

Are you actually implying that they made Snap after Temmin and not the other way around?

Jeremiah Evans
Jeremiah Evans

I hope so. He's not among the handful of survivors remaining after Crait, though I guess they can see he was off doing something else during the evacuation.

Aiden Cooper
Aiden Cooper

She'll exist to force an awkward love triangle between Finn, Rey and herself.
Episode 9 will most likely be set a few years after episode 8, and in that time, Rose will have worked out, become really pretty and sexy and capable, and then she and Rey will fight for Finn's attention, who meanwhile is totally gay for Poe, and hunting for that codebreaker thief who totally sold them out.

Noah Walker
Noah Walker

Because Luke wasn't perfect and he made mistakes. You want Luke to be some perfect boring unchanging paragon of goodness when even in the OT he was never like that.

Christ, are you even reading my post? I'm not attacking Luke's character, I'm attacking the writer's decision to specifically make Luke's greatest mistake a parallel to his greatest triumph.

This is the exact sort of shit you want to do in the opposite. Take your greatest failure and turn it into your greatest triumph.

There are a dozen other ways to make it personal, without literally paralleling ROTJ. Have Luke cast Kylo out and refuse to train him. Have Luke publicly berate and humiliate Kylo. Have Luke make a particularly bitter comparison to Kylo's parents.

Why, of all the various choices, have Luke (no matter how "split-second" it is) TRY TO KILL KYLO WITH HIS LIGHTSABER.

Landon Allen
Landon Allen

Did Leia have to survive being in a vacuum or would that have been a good time to kill the character now Carrie has passed?

William Mitchell
William Mitchell

He was there to show Finn that's what he could end up being if he continues on his "imma just run away" plan. Seems that he's a good guy, but is actually just scum who sells everyone out when the chips are down. By contrast, Jar Jar Chinks is there to show Finn what being full of hope and whatnot is all about.

Jordan Jones
Jordan Jones

It's not a complete description of everything involved.
They don't mention CGI because it's obvious, just like how they don't mention how the actors are digitally superimposed

Christopher Hernandez
Christopher Hernandez

Holy shit, I'll take EU cheese over this

Lucas Cook
Lucas Cook

Replace the baby with the "one ring" and it's just Lord of the Rings.

Ryan Bailey
Ryan Bailey

I pray the hatman doesnt take this waifu from me

John Diaz
John Diaz

Too late. By the time Carrie died, all those scenes had already been done.

Anthony Hall
Anthony Hall

If something debuts in a book before a movie, it's debut is that book no matter what. What the thing is created for does not matter. Did it appear in Aftermath before TFA? Then it came first in the book. It's very simple, user.

James Cox
James Cox

I don't think he was in the movie at all. He survived the attack on Starkiller, iirc.

Jackson Mitchell
Jackson Mitchell

I thought her Canto Bight sidequest was kinda pointless

Yeah, it was. An entire third of the movie devoted entirely to a C-plot that didn't have to happen if Holdo had just said "we're escaping on cloaked shuttles"

Nathan Clark
Nathan Clark

No, because Luke and Leia's reunion is the second best scene in the movie

Brandon Russell
Brandon Russell

Nobody. He's nobody and that's the point

Ethan Davis
Ethan Davis

It was actually this though

Jacob Jones
Jacob Jones

They don't mention CGI because it's obvious
Listen Plinkett, you're looking for CGI where there isn't any. Except Yoda, obviously.

Ian Diaz
Ian Diaz

You'll need more than just claiming it as "obvious" to actually prove your point. Digital superposition is a reasonable assumption given that was the standard at the time, and still is, though frankly ILM was setting a lot of the standard with their work.

Elijah Ross
Elijah Ross

It probably still would have happened. Poe was really hung up on not running.

Luke Adams
Luke Adams

Don't ever let blue-haired chicks like Holdo (who's probably a lesbian) rule an army.
They have shitty communication skills.

Jose Sanchez
Jose Sanchez

And that's why it's so good
tfw no stop-motion bluescreen compositing in Peter Jackson's LOTR movies
JUST

Evan Wilson
Evan Wilson

No, probably not. Did you miss the part where he thought it was a genius plan when it was explained to him that they were cloaked? The entire movie is just people not talking to each other.

Charles Roberts
Charles Roberts

Should have had Leia do the kamikaze maneuver instead.

And then move the Luke/Leia reunion scene to right before she does it.

Benjamin Myers
Benjamin Myers

The point is that nobodies can rise up with Palpatine-tier powers out of literally nowhere and start commanding huge army death squads?

Leo Roberts
Leo Roberts

I'm not getting into this fight now.
If you want to believe that everything in that shot is 100% practical (with exception of the superimposement), then fine. You believe what you believe.

Daniel Fisher
Daniel Fisher

Poor communication kills.

Henry Lopez
Henry Lopez

But his plan was to run away after getting a haxor to turn off the main ship's hyperspace tracker.

Juan Young
Juan Young

It would have been hilarious if she'd been black under the armor and called him a disappointing son.

And Hux was the daddy.

Dylan Murphy
Dylan Murphy

Just got a problem with her back story. It's said that she hates the F.O. since her childhood, but wasn't it supposed to be a SECRET thing back then?

Michael Rogers
Michael Rogers

The entire movie is just people not talking to each other.

Why did Luke not tell the resistance to run while he buys time.

Why?

What if Poe hadn't figured out that they were supposed to escape while he buys time?

Tyler Johnson
Tyler Johnson

if only she had a pet purgill to do this with

Henry Sanders
Henry Sanders

Doesn't mean Wendig created the character, just like Claudia Grey didn't make Holdo, John Jackson Miller didn't make Kanan and Hera, Ryder Windham didn't make Ezra, and Genndy didn't make Grievous.

Eli Sanchez
Eli Sanchez

Except you can't do any of those without reshooting

Owen Sullivan
Owen Sullivan

Of course. Rey has totally awesome force powers and she was born out of fucking normal peasant parents.
Powerful force users that somehow can use their charisma or telekinetic powers to make everyone else obey them can happen under any circumstances.

Gabriel Thomas
Gabriel Thomas

I'd rather believe what they say when I have no reason to doubt it as opposed to swearing up and down that it HAS to be CGI because I've seen some pixels in my time, or whatever BS you're smoking. You should like the guys who swear the moon landing is fake because that flag they plated totally moved in the wind.

Liam Diaz
Liam Diaz

Nah, i don't think people will ironically love Solo.

Ian Adams
Ian Adams

obviously didn't watch the movie
she openly lusts after him you retard, glad you outed yourself as a shitposter

Nolan White
Nolan White

Why, of all the various choices, have Luke (no matter how "split-second" it is) TRY TO KILL KYLO WITH HIS LIGHTSABER.
Because he said he saw a vision of Kylo destroying everything he loves. This is the exact same weakness that made him attack Vader out of anger in ROTJ before stopping to realize what he's doing. In fact it doesn't show his character being broken like you suggest, but his character having become wiser since then because where in ROTJ he goes into a fit of rage and attacks Vader without second thought in TLJ he has that urge then immediately realizes it for the wrong that it is and stops himself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6k3YBmIUYo

Landon Wright
Landon Wright

He wasn't. I'm sure he'll show up in 9 after being "on a mission to the Outer Rim". The actor's a friend of JJ.

Logan Edwards
Logan Edwards

I'm pretty sure that the FO has openly been around ever since shortly after VI ended, they just weren't taken seriously until after what they pulled in VII.

Xavier Miller
Xavier Miller

Secret from the rest of the galaxy, but there have been First Order-controlled worlds for a long time, which was where they kept getting babies to raise as stormtroopers. The New Republic just didn't know about it.

Josiah Adams
Josiah Adams

Unless they're going to kill Leia off-screen in 9, they're going to have to do some CGI anyway. Might as well get started.

Liam Reed
Liam Reed

She held hands with Leia. Lesbian.

Thomas Myers
Thomas Myers

They're absolutely going to kill her off-screen. Or just have her retire or whatever. This was a fine send off for the character.

Jacob Kelly
Jacob Kelly

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Parker Anderson
Parker Anderson

Unless they're going to kill Leia off-screen in 9
This is very likely what they're going to do

Gavin Harris
Gavin Harris

Liked her a lot, liked Canto Bight too since it solidifies TLJ as a low-key adventure movie with a sci-fi shell, although that subplot really should've integrated better with the rest

She said she grew up in a mining planet in the Outer rim where the First Order was slowly banking, so even if they weren't public yet she and her family suffered because of them

Jacob Fisher
Jacob Fisher

dumb thuleposter

Jaxson Harris
Jaxson Harris

He wanted to give the Resisbellions the free choice of either deciding to stay around and get themselves killed, or flee and fight another day.

Anthony Richardson
Anthony Richardson

movie opens with Lando delivering the eulogy

Ethan Carter
Ethan Carter

Go home and try this.

Grayson Edwards
Grayson Edwards

All this TLJ content and here I sit for Rebels.

Brody Garcia
Brody Garcia

In fact it doesn't show his character being broken like you suggest

You are still missing my point. I'm not saying his character is broken.

I'm saying why would a writer choose to, of all the potential flaws in Luke to use to spur Ben on, choose to pull out the one flaw that he was supposed to have overcome in his *greatest moment of triumph*.

It's not about the character. It's about the arc and the portrayal.

I don't know how else I can put this. It is literally taking the character's brightest moment and turning it into his flaw again. Instead of any other number of flaws they could draw on.

Luke Perez
Luke Perez

But Luke didn't hack a hand off from his nephew.
That's progress.

Jaxson Russell
Jaxson Russell

Why talk about shit.

Connor Kelly
Connor Kelly

Luke dramatically walks through the Resistance base
Luke has an emotional moment with his sister
Luke begins to dramatically walk towards the First O-
Luke "Oh wait. Uh guys I'm gonna go distract them while you get away ok?"
Poe: "But you're just one guy? They'll slaughter you!"
Luke: "No you don't get it. I'm actually projecting myself through the force. Put your hand through me, see? I'm gonna go make them think they're attacking me for a few minutes and while that happens you guys can run away through the mines. In fact you guys should probably go ahead and get a head start before I actually confront Kylo."
Poe: "Cool thanks."
Luke: "No problem."
Luke then dramatically walks out of the base

Eli Howard
Eli Howard

Run away with the ship and the weapons though
The "should we save ourselves no matter what by caring for each other or still preserve our capacity to fight back to some extent" theme is very present in the movie

Blake Brooks
Blake Brooks

At least TLJ was something instead of the nothingburger that is Rebels

Alexander Russell
Alexander Russell

he ignites the saber over him but immediately stares at it in a kind of "Holy crap am i retarded." moment

Grayson Gray
Grayson Gray

Luke dramatically walks through the Resistance base
Luke has an emotional moment with his sister
Luke begins to dramatically walk towards the First Order
Poe asks how he's going to stop them
Luke says not to worry, just start finding a way out, he'll handle the FO forces.

Simple. You can even have Poe say "May the force be with you" and Luke smirk before walking off.

Parker Sanchez
Parker Sanchez

This is ripped off from a vietnam movie

Bentley Wilson
Bentley Wilson

Poe's arc was interesting, having him go from devil may care hero who will fight with everything he has as long as he sees a potential win, even if it isn't a victory that will help much in the overall immediate and potentially even long-term conflict, to someone who realizes that it's pointless to squander resources, friends, in suicide attacks. It isn't a win just because what you're aiming at is blown up and you still have a few people left alive on your side afterward when it really doesn't get you anywhere. He's becoming the commander Leia wants him to be despite himself.

Adrian Taylor
Adrian Taylor

Best SW movie in 34 years

Isaiah Baker
Isaiah Baker

Tarkin, they have the same height similar facial features and both show knowledge of darth vader as being loyal to the emperor but has no idea vader redeemed himself

Cooper Anderson
Cooper Anderson

SOME FOLKS ARE BORN

Ryder Young
Ryder Young

"It was a tragic loss, but I was always telling Leia, 'you got to get your flu shot, especially at our age.' But she would never listen. And the one day she decides to finally get that flu shot like I always told her, she forgets to look both ways before crossing the street. It was a miracle that speeder just barely missed her. Once she finally got to the doctor's office, a First Order assassin showed up, but luckily she brought Chewie with her and boy, that assassin had a bad day. Anyway after she got her flu shot I visited her, and I showed her my new blaster, I said 'Leia this is the newest from BlasTech, look how clean that barrel is' and that was a dumb thing to do, what if it went off? But it didn't. That was also the night her stove exploded and engulfed her house in flames, but fortunately she wasn't home at the time. Anyway, we'll all miss Leia."

Lincoln Price
Lincoln Price

Fuck no. A movie about Stormtroopers could be cool, but Vader would be monumentally fucking boring as a protagonist.

Joseph Bell
Joseph Bell

We've never seen the two men in the same room! It holds together perfectly!

Julian Rogers
Julian Rogers

Rey is okay (does her role in the script).

But there is no story, true.

Jeremiah Jones
Jeremiah Jones

Wait a minute.... Do we ever see Crait Luke and Ach-To Luke in the same room?

Alexander Hall
Alexander Hall

taking something another movie and making it in space
That has never happened in Star Wars ever

Daniel Watson
Daniel Watson

That is true. Ultimately, the First Order can afford the losses. The resisbellion is just a few ships. All elite crack shots, but everyone of their losses hurts them a lot more than a few hundred dead stormtrooper or tie pilots does for the bad guys.

Alexander Cox
Alexander Cox

'IT'S NOT MY FAULT'

Aiden Ward
Aiden Ward

Fuck stormtroopers, have a clone movie. Republic Commando: A Star Wars Story when?

Gabriel Jackson
Gabriel Jackson

This image was the true last thing flashing through Krennic's mind an instant before that superlaser did.

Kevin Phillips
Kevin Phillips

the theme is about finding a new hope and moving on

Connor Carter
Connor Carter

Clones are totally boring.
You can't go into the true repercussions of a slave child soldier army without making TCW into a disgusting show

Justin Edwards
Justin Edwards

I thought it was picturing Tarkin laughing at him

Gavin Harris
Gavin Harris

This much was obvious, yes, but I feel like he didn't really earn it considering he staged a mutiny and all -he came out on top with just a slap on the wrist, never having to carry the guily for the dead bomber pilots or the Canto plan that backfired

Ethan Walker
Ethan Walker

No the point is that it doesn't matter who he is. What matters is his plan

Camden Kelly
Camden Kelly

Wrong sister died

I liked her she was adorable like a porg made human

Grayson Allen
Grayson Allen

He just really wanted that dreadnought dead since that meant it couldn't destroy any other worlds...despite the fact that the FO still had more than enough to destroy those worlds even if it would take them slightly longer without that specific dreadnought. On the face of it you cannot fault his reasoning, it is all true, and yet comparing it to the big picture proves it is folly.

Shit, I just realized this is something real with fighter pilots. Target fixation. You become so obsessed with taking out the enemy in front of you you will keep at it even if it ultimately dooms yourself too.

Bentley Ross
Bentley Ross

Ben probably blocked him out thinking he was not Darth Vader but for me that's going off the guess Luke never divulged the fact he turned good again so everybody assumed Darth Vader was just some bad guy who died with the Emperor

Samuel Howard
Samuel Howard

WELL CONGRATULATIONS YOU GOT YOURSELF CUT IN HALF

WHATS THE NEXT STEP OF YOUR MASTER PLAN

Carson Evans
Carson Evans

Well, he got himself cut in half. What's the next step of his master plan?

Kevin Torres
Kevin Torres

Honestly, I think she's cute. Not conventionally beautiful or anything, but she has an endearing smile and a pudgy little face. I'd take her out.

Sebastian Howard
Sebastian Howard

No. There was another.

Blake Collins
Blake Collins

Destroying the dreadnaught was a good thing for the resisbellion, though. Without it and later Snookie's supership, the First Order didn't have ultra-long range battleships anymore who could simply blast the resisbellion scum to death from really really far away.

Carson Stewart
Carson Stewart

Yeah, Poe behaves like a complete shit throughout the movie but people still praise him and act like he's exactly what the Resistance needs. At Crait he finally decides a retreat is the best plan, but only after trying to defend with crappy old speeders. So he only learned his lesson when he literally had no other options left.

Austin Evans
Austin Evans

fpwp

Luke Harris
Luke Harris

Pointless.

David Phillips
David Phillips

Ach-To Luke was actually a projection, a decoy for others to find. Crait Luke was a projection created by the Ach-To projection. The real Luke is living it up in the whore pits of Nar Shadda. Once he accomplishes metaphorically pissing in Ben's eyes he dismisses both projections since he has no further need for them.

Jaxon Turner
Jaxon Turner

A pilot capable of taking out all a ship's weapons by himself is what the Resistance needs.

Jacob Barnes
Jacob Barnes

I wish they established if Finn's suicide run had any chance of being effective though
I understood Rose's train of thought and that she personally wanted to save her crush, but we just had Holdo's kamikaze jump, what's one more death if it was going to spare many more and significantly reduce the enemy's means?

Josiah Rivera
Josiah Rivera

I disagree, but funny meme still.

Ayden Rivera
Ayden Rivera

As Yoda said, failure is actually the best teacher.
There comes a point where really old rusty speeders don't do shit against superhigh-tech modern AT-AT whatevertanks.
Also, suicide attacks are really not a good thing to do for the resisbellion.

Jonathan Brooks
Jonathan Brooks

That is what makes her perfect for Finn since he pretty much was in the first movie. She's this movies Finn and even slips into a Finn coma. Can't wait for the next movie when we see her running around naked in a bubble suit so we can all throw up.

Jackson Collins
Jackson Collins

Yeah but it came at the cost of their entire fleet of bombers along with their crews and pilots. Poe won the fight but he sacrificed too much for it when the Resistance is already dangerously low on resources and personnel, which is why Leia slapped and demoted him.

Dylan Stewart
Dylan Stewart

Who cares about the Trandoshan?
Check out that well dressed Gamorrean!

Jacob Cook
Jacob Cook

As Yoda said, failure is actually the best teacher.
This is true but just how much failure did Poe need before the light bulb finally went off in his head?

Hudson Ross
Hudson Ross

It's a shame the resistance didn't have a chance to reload all the torpedoes he spammed against Starkiller base or he wouldn't have even needed those bombers. He could have, haha, soloed the entire dreadnought.

Ryan Hill
Ryan Hill

I like resisbellion and I think I'll start using it, makes for a good underlining of the inconstistency without being too autistic

Tyler Scott
Tyler Scott

About 96%

maybe he could have taken some notes from Rena and flown into the dreadnought's hangar.

David Moore
David Moore

Ben probably blocked him out thinking he was not Darth Vader

Beeeeeeen, Beeeeen, it's me, your grandpa Anakin
My name isn't Ben. It's Kylo now
... Ok, whatever, it's me Anakin. I have to tell you something
Go away. Darth Vader killed you.
Ben, I AM Darth Vader
No you aren't, where's your armour?
*Anakin snaps his fingers and appears in armour*
... That's just an illusion. It's not real.
It IS real Ben. Search your feelings
My feelings tell me you're a faggot.
That's no way to talk to your elders, Ben
Fffffaggot
Ok fine, whatever, I don't need this shit. I'm going to fuck your grandmother in space-Heaven. Think about thaaaaaat. *poof*

Camden Nguyen
Camden Nguyen

tfw Phasma will never peg you

Nicholas Garcia
Nicholas Garcia

I'll be honest, that was kind of a stupid scene. On don't get me wrong, I agree with your assessment of what Poe did. However was it really all his fault when Leia could have just gotten on the comms and ordered the bombers to stop being bitches? I mean she's complicit in the entire damn thing. She indulged Poe and let those people go to their deaths.

Jose Martin
Jose Martin

They were dangerously low because the First Order magically overpowered the Republic in about two weeks. Even if they'd kept the bombers they were massively outgunned. What is one squadron of bombers going to do when they have all of three ships left and only one is a capital ship?

Samuel Reyes
Samuel Reyes

Most likely not. Finn's speeder was already melting long before he would have reached the ram.
And if he had succeeded, the First Order would have simply gotten another.
Or if necessary, ram that gate with a star destroyer. Or drop the debris of the snookie superdestroyer down on the mountain.

Ethan Rodriguez
Ethan Rodriguez

Shit, I just realized this is something real with fighter pilots. Target fixation. You become so obsessed with taking out the enemy in front of you you will keep at it even if it ultimately dooms yourself too.
One of the reasons why Dunkirk was absolute kino was portraying this
Once it's down to Hardy vs the last plane you really want to see that guy taken down, I was gritting my teeth at one point

Isaiah Cook
Isaiah Cook

All to teach him a lesson. Thanks, Kooky Coked Up Grandma!

Leo Gray
Leo Gray

In hindsight nothing, but it's not like they knew at the time that they'd be tracked through hyperspace and would get stuck in a slow chase.

Julian Morgan
Julian Morgan

You speak of the force, and it shall appear.
WHAT the hell is going on?
Our plan is proceeding as expected.
Oh, really? Do I look like I'm commanding the Death Star project right now? Your hit on the rebel base it didn't work, my friend. And now you have my construction crews GOING AROUND THE SECTOR AT 24 HOURS A DAY! How, exactly, is that supposed to help me make the Emperor realize the weapon's remarkable potential?
Leave us.
No, you stay here. I'm in charge.
Do you feel in charge?
... I've created an unstoppable weapon.
And this gives you power over me?
What is this?
It's power to create problems is certainly confirmed.
What are you?
I expect you to not rest until you can assure the Emperor that Galen Erso has not compromised this weapon in any way.
So... I'm still in command? You'll speak to the Emperor abo-...
... Be careful not choke on your aspirations, Director.

Adrian Lopez
Adrian Lopez

the First Order would have simply gotten another.
Buying time for the rest of the resistance to escape. Which is what they did anyway.

Chase Young
Chase Young

that made me laugh more then it should

William Lopez
William Lopez

yfw Anakin's force ghost appears to Luke's force ghost to give him advice

Nicholas Parker
Nicholas Parker

But space-Heaven doesn't exist, Anakin can't ever see Padme again.

Julian Gonzalez
Julian Gonzalez

You mean people knew that Leia was Vader's daughter but Luke never explained who Anakin Skywalker was and what he did in the end? I find it unlikely to believe.

The Starkiller wasn't particularly magic
okay with real physics it'd be

Jonathan Ross
Jonathan Ross

We have literal autistic babies in the thread. Tfa was about finding identity and tlj is about failure. Why do you need this spoon fed?

Jack Cox
Jack Cox

not canon

Noah Lopez
Noah Lopez

Fool, you think too small! In the ether of the Force, you can change your appearance! All he has to do is convince Obi-Wan to shapeshift into Padme!

Noah Sanchez
Noah Sanchez

It ain't Sheev starts playing

Hunter Butler
Hunter Butler

Poe would have probably continued with angry vengeance sacrifice attacks instead to avenge his nigga-bruh.

Samuel Fisher
Samuel Fisher

Come oooooon... I'll do Satine next time, I promise

Owen Bailey
Owen Bailey

Why the fuck wouldn't they just use aurebesh?

Brayden Cook
Brayden Cook

This is literally the only good shot I could find from this movie.

Luis Wright
Luis Wright

mfw the codebreaker wasn't Lando.

God fucking damn it.

Josiah Myers
Josiah Myers

there's only one alien script in the universe
Why are you afraid of new things?

Gavin Lewis
Gavin Lewis

wanting nothing but nostalgia

Justin Lopez
Justin Lopez

Why would he be a codebreaker?

Ian King
Ian King

How likely do you think that Disney cancels Rian's trilogy?
TLJ will make money, theres no doubt about it. BUT theres no denying people are angry at Rian for fucking up some things so i think Disney will have to wait and see if people 100% hate Rian or not. If they do then goodbye Rian trilogy

Brandon Torres
Brandon Torres

Was it too hard to make at least one of these two an alien? Im tired of humans, especially ugly ones .

Aaron White
Aaron White

I really liked how Killer Ben tried to actively seduce Rey with his naked upper body.
I mean, he already tried to totally impress her with his dark emo torn broody personality. Probably thinks that chicks dig vulnerable people.
He must have read lots of fanfics of emo girls.

Logan Peterson
Logan Peterson

2015
4chan claims TFA killed Star Wars
4chan claims Disney hates JJ
2017
Star Wars still going strong
Disney gives JJ Episode IX
Also 2017
4chan suddenly thinks Disney hates Rian

Juan Hill
Juan Hill

Because then there'd be a reason to randomly steer one third of the movie into a completely different direction. Not just nostalgia but a character that connects to Leia and Luke's past.

Charles Flores
Charles Flores

The difference is that everyone loved TFA except us.
Now it looks reversed.
Even Justice League has a higher audience score

James Phillips
James Phillips

Actually liking Del Taco over Based Colt 45.

I just want my Lando cameo :(

Xavier Wood
Xavier Wood

Depa Jarrus should have been half twi'lek and the purple hair could have been literally anything.

Justin Perez
Justin Perez

Didn't like this one because it looked like it was from a tv show. Should've shot it more like pic related and have the characters in the center.
Completely forgot about this one. This one is great too.

Lincoln Turner
Lincoln Turner

They don't care about space diversity, they just want known actors.

Kayden Cooper
Kayden Cooper

he thinks audience scores on RT matter

Josiah Myers
Josiah Myers

Audiences don't like alien characters. Simple as that

Ayden Myers
Ayden Myers

That was only in the teaser sadly

Parker Wilson
Parker Wilson

Don't you know that RT is how all movies are judged now?
RT is GOD

Christopher Taylor
Christopher Taylor

Okay but in all seriousness I genuinely I enjoyed Laura Dern in this movie. She was one of the highlights of the film and it bums me out that she won't be back. Hell of a way to go out though.

Alexander Wilson
Alexander Wilson

my episode 7,8,9. i'm recasting so i wouldn't be restricted in my stories by old actors.

7 - Rebirth - luke goes on a physical and spiritual journey to find the shards of a holocron, and rediscover all of history about the Force. meanwhile the Remnant is overthrown by a female sith lord and admiral thrawn, the two start a new endeavour to "bring back the empire". Which requires acquisition of the holocron also. the female sith lord and luke begin a relationship. though luke doesn't know that she is a sith.

8 - Resurgence - luke and mara recover the holocron. the clone of the emperor is born but is without his mind. which mara restores with the knowledge of the holocron. clone emperor corrupts luke. while the seed of light that luke implanted in mara brings her doubt and on the path to redemption. thrawn begins a new campaign in the outer rim to recover an ancient station from a conflict tens of thousands of years ago. Mara betrays the Clone Emperor and joins the New Republic.

9 - Revalations - Thrawn and the Emperor have found the remains of the Star Forge and rebuilt it. It has built a huge armada of droids and droid ships. Which Dark Luke has been given to take to Courscant and crush the fledgling New Republic government. Mara confronts Luke over Courcant and the light with in her and the babies brings Luke back. Luke, Mara, and the droid fleet confront Clone Emperor at the Star Forge. Luke and Mara reacquire the holocron and luke attempts to study it for preparation with the emperor. The holocron appears to explode and luke is consume in light. He meets qui'gon jin and others. Who tell him that the Light/Dark struggle has been going on since the first Force user, and it is bullshit. Luke must bring balance by embracing both sides, and not falling into the cycle that has consumed the galaxy for untold years. Luke now armed with the full knowledge of every force user ever, takes on and defeats the Clone Emperor and destroys Darth Sidious' spirit for good.

Luke Gonzalez
Luke Gonzalez

But then who would betray Finn and Rose to show that modern-day rogues aren't reliable heroes anymore who don't choose to fight for the good cause instead of money like all the weapons dealer?

Lucas Perez
Lucas Perez

#notmygod

Liam Martinez
Liam Martinez

I do too but that wouldn't be the right place for it. They should've given him Maz's role in TFA, though.

Easton Mitchell
Easton Mitchell

Benecio
ugly

Ayden Myers
Ayden Myers

Are you insane? Her performance was so forced and emotionless it made me want to claw my eyes out.

Josiah Howard
Josiah Howard

Benecio is like... Sexy ugly. Ugly sexy?

Nicholas Flores
Nicholas Flores

Unless, of course, the audience happens to like a Marvel movie, in which case it doesn't count.

Nicholas Reyes
Nicholas Reyes

This is bad and lacks any thematic resonance.

Zachary Gutierrez
Zachary Gutierrez

Character was a cunt and an idiot
What did you like about her? Unironically asking here.

Sebastian Thompson
Sebastian Thompson

Looks like Disney knows the ST is fucked. I wouldn't be surprised if they only brought JJ back so that they can rely on his cheap tricks to appeal to the lowest common denominator so they could scrape up as much money as they can, while Rian is writing the new trilogy starting from scratch.

Brayden Jenkins
Brayden Jenkins

Looks like Disney knows the ST is fucked
people actually believe this

Josiah Ward
Josiah Ward

and the alternative is a daughter of literal whos abandoned on a planet. making a living as a scrap collector. some how is chosen by the force to be the most powerful one yet.

Mason Nguyen
Mason Nguyen

Thematically it is, it feels Disjointed.

Ian Rivera
Ian Rivera

Make him fail in a way that is fitting to the character! There's no reason to make his failure one that goes against everything we know about Luke! Have his failure come from a place we recognise - he saw the good in Vader and redeemed him, have his hubris be that he believed that he could do the same for Ben but failed! Making him consider murder is completely anathema to the climax of Luke's journey, it undercuts his refusal to kill his father and makes no sense for Luke as a character.

Cameron Martinez
Cameron Martinez

unlike a son of a literal who slave woman. making a living as a slave. some how is chosen by the force to be the most powerful one yet.

Nicholas Fisher
Nicholas Fisher

I actually liked that she was unlikable. She did what she had to do and even though she wasn't a warm person, she still tried to save as many people as possible. Also if we're going with the 'this character is an idiot' criticism then Poe, Finn and Rose are idiots too because their plan was fucking stupid and turned out to be waste in the end.

Ian Clark
Ian Clark

Third world countries
America, yes.

Jace Brown
Jace Brown

ESTO ES EL FIN, KYLO REN

Jonathan Bennett
Jonathan Bennett

If Luke hadn't been related to Darth Vader he would've been the same thing.

Joseph Cooper
Joseph Cooper

Nobody has done the saber throw in the ST

Jose Hughes
Jose Hughes

This is the thing that irks me the most. The Prequels' CG is like early 3D game CG: it's not realistic, but if the art design is strong enough (it it) what you get is something akin to a moving painting. Which is what I'm looking at in that screenshot.

Logan Bell
Logan Bell

It's a trilogy-ending-movie move

Alexander Smith
Alexander Smith

Poe, Finn and Rose's plan almost worked, and they only did it because Cotton Candy Hair didn't tell them her plan like a fucking idiot.

Hunter Sullivan
Hunter Sullivan

Kylo doing you-know-what kinda counts.

Brayden Gray
Brayden Gray

I don't think she had that plan at the start. It seemed more like a last-ditch thing.

Jonathan Johnson
Jonathan Johnson

But Luke decided against killing Benny, because he realized that it was a fucking dumb idea.

Charles Ward
Charles Ward

ach-to luke was bigger luke.

Cameron Allen
Cameron Allen

but what about Ahch-to Luke?

Eli Ross
Eli Ross

You're thinking about Aach-too Luuke.

Hunter Sanders
Hunter Sanders

Also, apparently, there were a bunch of deserters that Rose had to incapacitate.

Noah Miller
Noah Miller

I failed you Ben, I'm sorry.

Isaiah Perez
Isaiah Perez

rebel fighters that are supposedly shielded are fragile
"switch your deflector shields on, double front"
"switch all power to front deflector screens"
From a certain point of view

Adrian Martinez
Adrian Martinez

But it does fit his character.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6k3YBmIUYo

He would bring destruction, and pain, and death, and the end of everything I love because of what he will become. And for the briefest moment of pure instinct, -I thought I could stop it."

Ryan Walker
Ryan Walker

But Poe was demoted so she really didn't have to tell him anything and he should've listened to Leia who told him not to be so damned headstrong and just wait.

Nathan Scott
Nathan Scott

OI BOSSK

Aiden Perez
Aiden Perez

Is Bossk's girlfriend still alive in ST nucanon?

Carson Richardson
Carson Richardson

Please not now. You don't know how hard it was for me to get reservations here.

Benjamin Price
Benjamin Price

He never had a girlfriend, Bossk is a permavirgin

Ethan Harris
Ethan Harris

The biggest problem with the Prequels CGI is that Lucas eschewed a lot of the common illusory techniques of the time like using rain, shadow, or naturally glossy things to hide the artificiality.
He also, to be honest, didn't put as much effort into making the blue screened actors fit the scene as much as they could.
Look at Mace's shiny head and Obi's glowing hair.
There is a very bright light very close behind them.
But where is that in the scene? It should have low diffuse light with no localized bright spots.
It's failures like that that make the PT infamous for bad CGI

Oliver Bennett
Oliver Bennett

thats bigger luuke

Chase Myers
Chase Myers

Is it weird that I kept thinking of KotOR 2 when I was watching TLJ?

Andrew Sanchez
Andrew Sanchez

Where were these things?

Matthew Stewart
Matthew Stewart

I'm glad someone else gets it. Everyone here keeps talking about Luke like he's a real person and just repeatedly explaining his motivations as seen in the movie, as if we haven't seen the fucking movie too. It's not about that. It's about the big picture. It's about meaningful and effective writing. Rian put plot before character with Luke. He wanted things to happen a certain way and he did that without understanding why it weakens Luke as a character. Luke in TLJ is essentially a different character altogether.

Thomas Mitchell
Thomas Mitchell

Moral ambiguity? In MY Star Wars?

Blake Allen
Blake Allen

Hiding from embarrassment.

Jaxson Bailey
Jaxson Bailey

Because Luke wasn't perfect and he made mistakes. You want Luke to be some perfect boring unchanging paragon of goodness when even in the OT he was never like that.

Jesus fuck, you are one autistic cunt, aren't you?
Making mistakes and failing doesn't automatically mean being a pants on head retard. Nore does it mean the writer should throw away his previous character development and negate his greatest triumph.

Luke's failure could have been the failure to stop Ben from falling.
It could have been that Luke felt he didn't train his students well enough to protect themselves from the Dark Side/Ben.
It could have Ben that Luke felt that he didn't give Ben enough instruction/attention and didn't realize how bad it was until it was too-late.
He'll if they really wanted to keep the whole visions thing, they could have said that Luke had multiple visions. That his nights were filled with dreams of Ben turning to the Dark Side

Because it makes Kylo's fall more personal for Luke. If Kylo had just fucked off and killed Luke's students out of nowhere he wouldn't have such a stake in the whole thing. He wouldn't feel responsible and he probably wouldn't have fucked off to crotchtitland, so the entire premise of the movie/trilogy would be gone.

Yeah, no you are retarded. Even if Luke hadn't have had anything to do with Ben's fall, he still would have taken it pretty fucking personal when HIS NEPHEW killed all HIS STUDENTS.

Parker Torres
Parker Torres

Awesome

Landon Carter
Landon Carter

I can see why, but KOTOR 2 does TLJ'S thing better

Anthony Morales
Anthony Morales

Pinup with a pistol when?

Justin Ross
Justin Ross

The big moments were Luke's scenes. He sounds like one of the Jedi Masters you search for.

Plus the bit on the arms dealer's ship.

Levi Jones
Levi Jones

That was the old Jedi who missed out on what balance meant. The concept of using both sides is wrong for balance, while the idea of feeling emotions, accepting them, but not letting them control you and being a good person in action is what the Jedi should be.

Jayden Moore
Jayden Moore

Called hobo sexy

Andrew Carter
Andrew Carter

Was Jolee right?

Lucas Morris
Lucas Morris

Did you like TLJ better the second time?

Aiden Powell
Aiden Powell

I unironiclly want to blowjob from the Tumblr mom

Kayden Howard
Kayden Howard

Yes, but he was a coward.

David Evans
David Evans

No I notice the camera was way to closed people's head and too many cuts.

TFA was better cinematography

Justin Ortiz
Justin Ortiz

In the concept art book. You can tell from the strandbeast legs - the final designs have the classic Imperial Hexagon, whereas that's just the spidery appendages of the concept art. Not appearing in the movie, not appearing anywhere ever.

William Ward
William Ward

So when is Rebels coming back?

Dylan Flores
Dylan Flores

Never, I canceled Star Wars

Michael Carter
Michael Carter

Not soon enough to get our minds off the TLJ debacle

Camden Stewart
Camden Stewart

Ye

Josiah Richardson
Josiah Richardson

cover is on the right end page
fucking japs

Lucas Lewis
Lucas Lewis

TFA was better

Nathaniel Jones
Nathaniel Jones

OT Jedi are all about controlling your emotions, finding inner peace, wars do not make one great, etc
Rey has not had one modicum of self-control through both movies, powers through every enemy through sheer force of will, angrily leaves Luke, tries to strike down Snoke, and still doesn't even get tempted by the dark side

What does all this mean?

Is this another one of those "throw away the past" things?

Gabriel Thompson
Gabriel Thompson

Green milk confirmed for Galaxy's Edge.

Christian Parker
Christian Parker

Abso-fucking-lutely.

Jayden Miller
Jayden Miller

For fuck's sake, the fact that at the end of this scene he throws his lightsaber aside is supposed to show he has overcome all of that - he faced the ultimate test and passed. Bringing him back to that place and making that his greatest failure is straight up awkward, ugly, clueless writing.

Julian Wright
Julian Wright

I'll just jam all the EU Post-ROTJ stuff I like into one big messy pile.

Jaxson Adams
Jaxson Adams

Toys sold in the land are "handmade", including ones like what Jyn had as a kid.

Wyatt Wright
Wyatt Wright

This season is the last one btw.

Elijah Martin
Elijah Martin

I can't wait for Rebels to end so this cancerous general can finally die.

Jack Russell
Jack Russell

Filoni has another cartoon planned and theres still regular comic releases, at least one or two per month

Charles Collins
Charles Collins

I bet you'd never expect that Snoke dies mid-film
I bet you'd never expect that the while half-film of Finn-heist actually fails and leads to absolutely nothing
I bet you'd never expect that Rey's parents are nobody
I bet you'd never expect that the crumpy general lady is actually good
I bet you'd never expect that the resistance actually gets decimated
I bet you'd never expect that Luke would be directly responsible for creating Kylo, and particularly by paralleling his greatest moment of Jedi-ness by thinking of killing Ben

It's so transparent how this movie was written.

Aaron Reed
Aaron Reed

Yes

Adrian Flores
Adrian Flores

Holdo did nothing wrong

Henry Harris
Henry Harris

But he didn't strike down Kylo Ren. And being frightened and doing dumb things is normal for normal people. Ultimately, Luke was a relatively normal person who drank green milk (his new favorite after the blue milk market has gone dry). Luke broke down because he believed in the hype as the ultimate living legend Jedi-Master Luke Skywalker who outnumbers the Empire 1:1'000'000 that everyone attributed to him. He mustn't do mistakes, because he's the frigging uber-Jedi who took down the Galactic Empire practically all by himself.

Alexander Martinez
Alexander Martinez

That the Jedi were pompous stuffed shirts who thought they were the ever loving saviours of the Galaxy?
Damned right

Jolee was my favourite companion. When I was younger, I had him join Revan on the Korriban mission where you had to have a slave. He had some smart aleck remark like "Oh I'm a slave now? I see how it is"
Never got it till years later. Slavery wasn't a big thing where I grew up

Parker Collins
Parker Collins

Nigger can you read?
Oh big word must be confusing.

TFA camera and way it was shot( not glock 40 ) was more appealing to the eyes.

Brandon Phillips
Brandon Phillips

he has overcome all of that
For the moment. You never overcome temptation forever though. Luke's lesson is that even Jedi can fail but what matters is that they learn from their failures instead of wallowing in self pity over them. Luke has to fail for this moral to work so what better way to emphasize that Luke has failed than to show a version of his only win in the OT but a bad version where he fails. It would be more awkward if he failed but in some weird other way that wasn't really connected to anything his character was about. And not only that, but it would be easier than this. This is the hardest story decision with Luke to deal with because it's the worse choice Luke could make after ROTJ. The choice to ignore the lesson he should have retained in ROTJ and fail. If you hate it and think it ruined his character after ROTJ that's good because you're supposed to think that. That's exactly what Luke thinks too and that feeling of everything being so horrible and futile for his character is why Luke is a tragic character in TLJ. But it takes Yoda, a Jedi who once failed spectacularly when he allowed the Jedi and Republic to fall, to teach him that we all fail and forget our way at times and that failure is a part of life we must accept.

Nathaniel Morris
Nathaniel Morris

she failed to refry Poe's beans

Logan Roberts
Logan Roberts

TFA was better cinematography
Yeah, all those dutch angles and helicopter shots looked great.

Angel Bailey
Angel Bailey

Post orange butt cheeks please

Brandon Peterson
Brandon Peterson

His post still stands.

Ayden James
Ayden James

Implying /stco/ will ever die

Brody Bennett
Brody Bennett

Why didn't Snoke get his Mentat/Navigators to calculate jump coordinates for several Star destroyers to catch up with the Raddus. It's not like the First order is low on fuel?

Leo Green
Leo Green

But he didn't strike down Kylo Ren
Shame.

Ryder Parker
Ryder Parker

This is the hardest story decision with Luke to deal with because it's the worse choice Luke could make after ROTJ.

More like it's the worst choice the writers could make after ROTJ.

Henry Ramirez
Henry Ramirez

Those space-Philippinos are the most disgusting race.

Luke White
Luke White

can you do short-range jumps like that?

Carson Wilson
Carson Wilson

Ow, the edge.

Levi Morgan
Levi Morgan

compared to face shot to another face shot , it's much better.

I got tired of seeing their breath on the camera

Lucas Morales
Lucas Morales

Exactly. Read the post again now.

Kayden Lopez
Kayden Lopez

In hindsight, Luke really should have just killed Ren.

Lucas Sanders
Lucas Sanders

But the Finn heist led to that force kid wanting to join the future resistance

Connor Jones
Connor Jones

Fuck off, Kylo

Ian Harris
Ian Harris

There's your Rogue One reference.

Asher Hall
Asher Hall

still better than the Mouse.

Ian Fisher
Ian Fisher

Sometimes, those little deeds have big consequences on faraway places that aren't directly touched by the events shown.

Cameron Ward
Cameron Ward

They could probably triangulate and come back where the rebels would be in space. They had enough star destroyers to cut the resistance off.

Jaxon Phillips
Jaxon Phillips

Luke didn't kill Kylo
the galaxy would've legitimately been better off if he had

Mason Martin
Mason Martin

Toy Shop concept. Owned by a Toydarian because if there's one thing Imagineers love, its puns.

Jason Smith
Jason Smith

Wait, what?

Anthony Davis
Anthony Davis

Will we ever get Luke's Jedi Order stories?

Nolan Jenkins
Nolan Jenkins

X-Wings being built for the land

Gabriel Williams
Gabriel Williams

That.

William Morgan
William Morgan

Just wondering could real Luke have survived all those hundreds of AT-AT blasts in the movie? Could old EU Legends Luke have done that?

Kevin Rogers
Kevin Rogers

implying Snoke wouldn't just use that to turn Luke's other students

Cooper Sullivan
Cooper Sullivan

Nah. It's garbage-tier unoriginal fanfaiction.

William Green
William Green

probably. Legends Luke pulled out some big time bullshit

Wyatt Rivera
Wyatt Rivera

so is there going to be a toydarian puppet working the actual register?

Chase Ward
Chase Ward

Could old EU Legends Luke have done that?

That would be child's play to EU Luke.

Asher Cooper
Asher Cooper

Why would you expect real Luke to survive that?

Mason Moore
Mason Moore

It's probably an emo story where all the other students are picking on Ben for being so dark-sidey and totally failing at normal Jedi stuff, and everyone bullying Ben for being Luke's nephew which is why he gets preferential treatments.
Except for the few buddies that Ben made. And they all only pretended to be his friends because he's only Luke's nephew and gets preferential treatments.

Jaxson White
Jaxson White

Could old EU Legends Luke have done that?
Legends Luke would have knocked them all over simply by pushing on them with the force, zapped them with "good side lightning", slashed them all to bits by moving super fast, and then flung them into a nearby open black hole that he was keeping open

Bentley Wilson
Bentley Wilson

Too many close ups when it wasn't needed.

On second viewing it got nausiating.

Jose Myers
Jose Myers

30 years after ROTJ? Possibly

Oliver Reyes
Oliver Reyes

Looks like a Twi'lek running the register, but I could see them having an animatronic figure of the Toydarian working on carving a wooden marionette or something.

Adam Bell
Adam Bell

It's obvious. SNOKE is BOBA FETT.

That's why he looks half digested. He learned the ways of the force when he met Darth Stumblefool inside the Sarlacc.

Cooper King
Cooper King

It would be more awkward if he failed but in some weird other way that wasn't really connected to anything his character was about.

Luke failing to redeem Ben in the same way he redeemed Vader would have worked far, far better. His success with Vader creating that hubris that brought him down makes so much more sense because it is something we actually saw him accomplish - all this crap about him getting caught up in his own legend comes entirely from Rian and not from the character that we actually saw in the OT. It's basically a retcon, something that we never witness onscreen and is told to us as exposition to justify Rian's awkward version of Luke.

The choice to ignore the lesson he should have retained in ROTJ and fail.

He neither made a choice nor ignored anything. It was an instinctual moment of murderous thought, not a conscious decision that lead to a mistake. A poor reading of Luke's character that does not fit the one we knew from the OT, the one who's story ended with him overcoming this exact problem.

Ryder Hernandez
Ryder Hernandez

For a second, I really thought that Luke survived the AT-ATs because they all fucking missed him. And they missed him because he was standing on that one perfect little spot that would ensure that all the blaster shots wouldn't really hit him.

Using the force to connect to his friends in the resistance/rebellion and the first order was actually unexpected, and a really nice idea.

Camden Stewart
Camden Stewart

kylo loses his fly-ass shimmering hood and shawl and flowing robes
also loses his sexy, sexy helmet

why is this happening, he's not even from an old movie

Caleb Mitchell
Caleb Mitchell

I might be more accepting of this if Luke didn't die afterwards.

Caleb Hall
Caleb Hall

I don't know what the hell you're talking about. They certainly cut down all the close ups in this film compared to seeing Daisy's teeth constantly and Kylo Ren screaming at the camera.

Joshua Butler
Joshua Butler

Muh subversion

Ryder Howard
Ryder Howard

I was disappointed we didn't get a huge flashy display of Luke's power. Although the force projection was still pretty cool

Robert Sanchez
Robert Sanchez

Those poor kids think that the rebels will do anything to stop perfectly legal horse races.

Elijah Anderson
Elijah Anderson

Kylo's helmet
sexy
It's the most generic shit ever. Literally all the other designs in the concept art would have been better.

Parker Ward
Parker Ward

I sure that cast member will be thrilled

Ryder Clark
Ryder Clark

When will the "prequels are abominations" meme stop? I swear all of these publications and bloggers that trash the prequels whenever talking about Star Wars haven't actually watched them in years.

Jack Thomas
Jack Thomas

You're just sour about TFA
Kylo's helmet looked great.

Juan Reyes
Juan Reyes

It was an instinctual moment of murderous thought, not a conscious decision that lead to a mistake.
He was deliberating on murdering his nephew because Ren-Ben was really strong in the dark side of the force and most likely going to become a schizo-psycho killing tons of people.

Isaiah Long
Isaiah Long

i disagree

Jackson Rogers
Jackson Rogers

Because pimp daddy Snoke told him he looked ridiculous for trying to pull of looking like Vader when he can't live up to his potential.

you're just a child in a mask

Jose Walker
Jose Walker

It will inspire them to rise up against the bourgeoisie and fight THE MAN.

Camden Campbell
Camden Campbell

SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION

Colton Smith
Colton Smith

snoke is two halves of a grungy ballsack now, i want kylo's helmet back

Chase Gray
Chase Gray

I watched them a few months ago

they're abominations

Hudson Miller
Hudson Miller

But the legend of Luke Skywalker is something that applies to real life where you see fans everywhere thinking Luke is the most badass Jedi ever 'because... well because idk because he did a bunch of cool stuff I guess? But anyways did you see this comic where Luke deflects an AT-AT blast with his lightsaber!' That reception of Luke happened both irl and in universe and you realize this when you see TFA and you have a new generation (Rey and Finn) who see the original cast as these legends that were awesome because they blew stuff up and had cool lightsaber fights instead of being awesome for being good people and saving innocents. This in a way is Luke reaching out and pulling us, the audience, into the story and saying that our admiration for him got to his head and made him forget why we should have even admired him in the first place.

This doesn't come from the character of Luke in the OT, it comes from the character of Luke after the OT was released and where he ended up in our popular culture. In a way it's the complete opposite of meta because it's our real world influencing the legends and characters of the world in the movie.

Cameron Robinson
Cameron Robinson

Yeah, I saw the movie, thanks.

Nicholas Williams
Nicholas Williams

Ben Solo
Rey Skywalker
Solo Ben
Skywalker Rey
lo en
Ky R
Kylo Ren

Owen Allen
Owen Allen

Rey Palpatine

I still believe

Sebastian Bailey
Sebastian Bailey

How satisfying were the fates of the EU characters? Did all the big plot points get wrapped up before Disney wiped it?

Current Star Wars is bumming me out so I picked up the Thrawn trilogy and some other titles from a used book store.

Dylan Howard
Dylan Howard

Did all the big plot points get wrapped up before Disney wiped it?
no. They were clearly building toward the transition to Legacy, but the plug was pulled before they made it that far

Luis Wood
Luis Wood

cut down
Good joke they doubled it
go watch it again and instead of clapping at every forced humor, look at all stupid close ups.

God Poe and lady was the worst.

Joshua Lee
Joshua Lee

This in a way is Luke reaching out and pulling us, the audience, into the story and saying that our admiration for him got to his head and made him forget why we should have even admired him in the first place.

We admired him because he threw his light saber away and refused to kill his father.

The chronologically first thing shown in the ST about Luke is him turning on his lightsaber to kill his nephew (no matter how instinctive and momentary)

What the flying fuck are you talking about

Alexander Ramirez
Alexander Ramirez

Not at all, it was so bad it made the sequel trilogy look good. At least the sith aren't back (again[again{again}]) in canon.

Adam Gonzalez
Adam Gonzalez

Luke dealt with like 2 other Jedi purges, 1 of them being from the Republic itself. The civil war never ended for hundreds of years after the movies and like half the planets we know and live got completely devestated or destroyed by the Vong. Oh and a moon fell on Chewie.

Christopher Ortiz
Christopher Ortiz

The only part I really didn't like is Leia's force power shenanigans.
It's okay if she has it, had it been explained before that she learned how to use them in the mean time.

Tyler Gonzalez
Tyler Gonzalez

Not the same guy, but Kylo Ren's helmet did look shit. Glad Snoke insulted it and they got rid of it.

Josiah Cox
Josiah Cox

a moon fell on Chewie
metal

Hunter Wood
Hunter Wood

“I had huge hesitance,” Johnson says of ending one of the most beloved characters in movie history. “I was terrified. It was a growing sense of dread when I realized this was going to make sense in that chapter.”

Johnson said he discussed it extensively with Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy and members of theStar Wars story group before committing to it.

“It was not like I wrote the script and dropped it on their desk. It was very important to me that I was collaborating with the folks at Lucasfilm from the word go,” he said. “I moved to San Francisco for a few months and would go in a few times a week to keep them up to date, spewing my ideas out, especially the big ones.”

Johnson’s goal was creating a finale for Luke “that pushes the audience and thus the character.”

“Well, I’m still in denial,” Hamill joked. “I just think he transported somewhere else.”

“Modern day New York,” Rian added with a laugh. “That was my favorite theory we had.”

During the Q&A, Johnson also pointed out a slight flaw with the vanishing scene. “We were in the other room saying, ‘A steel hand should clunk to the ground.’”

Hamill dealt with the news of his character’s demise in stages of grief. You already heard him express denial. Originally, the actor reacted with bargaining. “The first thing I said was, ‘Can’t you wait and do this in Episode IX?’”

But Johnson said it was necessary to keep the focus on the new characters as the trilogy reached its end. (J.J. Abrams will returnto make the next installment, set for release in 2019.)

“I think the hero’s journey of Luke Skywalker concluded inReturn of the Jedi. This [trilogy] is the hero’s journey of Rey, and Finn, and Poe,” Johnson said. “The [ongoing] story of Luke is one that has to play in tandem with that of Rey.”

Nathan Hill
Nathan Hill

I will never stop being annoyed that they won't let them write any more Legends stuff.

Michael Hall
Michael Hall

I think most Old Republic stuff for wrapped up

Anthony Price
Anthony Price

He refused to kill his father after he first tried to kill his father and hacked his hand off because that guy wanted to make Leia into Darth Vaderina.

Jayden Nelson
Jayden Nelson

I say just play KOTOR 1&2, read Darth Plagueis, and read the Thrawn trilogy. Stop there, because the further you go, the more bad fanfiction you will find.

Isaiah Jenkins
Isaiah Jenkins

Well it was a long time ago so they were all dead since the beginning.

Julian Butler
Julian Butler

You're beyond the pale here dude. Justifying a misreading of his character with meta bullshit.

The fact is, Luke had a journey in the OT, he grew as a character, he achieved something meaningful, and Rian's interpretation doesn't gel with any of that.

Blake White
Blake White

Wow Rian is literally worse than JJ Abrams, how is it I am always wrong pre-judging these people

Gavin White
Gavin White

No, like another user said, they were moving towards Legacy era stuff, but the second volume got gutted because of the buyout and they had to rush the ending.

Christopher Jenkins
Christopher Jenkins

We admired him because he threw his light saber away and refused to kill his father.
And that admiration turned into crazy legends like in the EU.

Lucas Morales
Lucas Morales

It's almost as if his character had progressed from episode V to VI, and in order to justify his actions in TLJ you needed to ignore that development and reference an older version of his character.

Justin Sullivan
Justin Sullivan

Superman Leia

Connor Clark
Connor Clark

(You)

Logan Kelly
Logan Kelly

ywn see present time Star Wars

Josiah Barnes
Josiah Barnes

That's what Legacy was

Owen Gonzalez
Owen Gonzalez

People who complain about TLJ Luke are probably the same people who are mad that PT Yoda doesn't just start out as OT Yoda

Landon Butler
Landon Butler

Fucking exactly! He was tempted but he passed the fucking test! THAT IS THE FUCKING POINT

Colton Gonzalez
Colton Gonzalez

Doesn't make him immune to fear.

Nathan Baker
Nathan Baker

How can it be a misreading of a character if the very character development itself in this movie constantly references, and couldn't be written without Rian having understood Luke's arc in the OT? Do you really think Rian doesn't get that Luke did the right thing when he refused to fight his father in ROTJ especially given that he references that very lesson 3 times in the movie? Do you think Rian just made a little goof and just so happened to put Luke in a situation that was almost exactly the same as the one he was in during ROTJ but have him fail (which means that fundamentally he understands that Luke having contemplated violence in those situations was the wrong thing to do)?

Adrian Reyes
Adrian Reyes

As a JJfag im glad everyone from hardcore fans to normies are shitting on Rian like no tomorrow. Keep it coming, we need to kill Rian's career

Nathan Hughes
Nathan Hughes

The only one that bothered me was the one of Luke just before Kylo Ren went to strike him. The rest never bothered me.
That doesn't change the fact that the cinematography is still shit. I can only find one good shot from TFA while I found dozens from TLJ. Then there's the fact that TFA always has the camera moving constantly and never sitting still. Even the duel was shot far better in TLJ.

Easton White
Easton White

JJ is even worse

Oliver James
Oliver James

As a JJfag
Neck yourself.

Easton Jackson
Easton Jackson

“I think the hero’s journey of Luke Skywalker concluded inReturn of the Jedi. This [trilogy] is the hero’s journey of Rey, and Finn, and Poe,” Johnson said. “The [ongoing] story of Luke is one that has to play in tandem with that of Rey.”
He's literally right though, why are people mad?

Austin Williams
Austin Williams

Do you think Rian just made a little goof and just so happened to put Luke in a situation that was almost exactly the same as the one he was in during ROTJ but have him fail (which means that fundamentally he understands that Luke having contemplated violence in those situations was the wrong thing to do)?

Yes. Like most plot points in this film it was written around subverting audience expectations.

Nolan Mitchell
Nolan Mitchell

because FUCK STARWARS

THIS ISN'T YOUR DADS FILM NOSTALGIA BABBIES

Justin Smith
Justin Smith

I am convinced that years from now when we have a new Jedi Order with Luke appearing constantly as a force ghost to teach these kids lessons that people will be completely fine with his character arc in TLJ.

Jackson Morales
Jackson Morales

Phasma turns her back on her most promising student to shoot at some overweight chink.

Jayden Rogers
Jayden Rogers

I liked the idea that Mark was talking about for Luke's entrance in TFA

David Bailey
David Bailey

JJfag
glad everyone from hardcore fans to normies are shitting on Rian like no tomorrow.
I knew it was you faggots doing damage control trying to shift the blame to Rian because TFA got shat on over the past year.

Jackson Richardson
Jackson Richardson

As a JJfag

These exist?

Noah Gutierrez
Noah Gutierrez

How does that follow, you fucking moron? Idiots who don't understand that a prequel takes place *before* the original movie are the same as people who take issue with a *sequel* walking back a character's journey and saying that after we last saw him he did something we know he would never do following the climax of his journey?

Colton Morales
Colton Morales

darth bane mentioned in a current source book
makers be praised

Grayson Bell
Grayson Bell

She had just knocked him down an open cargo hatch. What, was she supposed to jump in after him?

Isaiah King
Isaiah King

Darth Bane's ghost showed up in TCW

Nathaniel Rodriguez
Nathaniel Rodriguez

I'm sure JJ would entertain the idea.

Jackson Brooks
Jackson Brooks

NEW BREAD
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Jace Reyes
Jace Reyes

I wanted to the set more, TLJ rarely showed off sets.

Maybe it's my fault that I expect kino shots but got 1/3 close up in TLJ.

I only seen TFA once and going off memory.

Julian Johnson
Julian Johnson

oh im aware, but that was a cartoon.

a big screen mention of any sorts is a thing of wonder.

the EU survives

Dylan Hernandez
Dylan Hernandez

But it's subversion for a good reason. It teaches a good moral about the acceptance of failure instead of fighting against it until you become self destructive. And at the end of the day if a Star Wars movie teaches a good moral to kids watching it then what's the problem? I get that there were pacing issues. I think the Canto Bight section shouldn't have been there and I think the movie was a little too all over the place but as far as Luke's character arc goes it works because on an emotional level it's consistent with what our culture thinks of Luke Skywalker, and on the level of what lesson Luke learns it's a good lesson that kids should learn.

Jackson Young
Jackson Young

What's so surprising? George invented Darth Bane, and Bane appeared(albeit as an illusion created by the Force Priestesses) in TCW.

Sith can't become force ghosts. That was an illusion created by the Force priestesses

Dylan Torres
Dylan Torres

The bad guys winning and the good guys not having a snowball's chance in hell and coming to terms with the fact there's literally nothing they can do isn't exactly a good moral unless you're intent is to turn kids into depressed, nihilistic and cynical adults.

Sebastian Sanders
Sebastian Sanders

art book
big screen mention
user...

Gavin Parker
Gavin Parker

I think Rian put the drama of his own movie above staying true to the legacy characters. He wanted things to shake out in a certain way, and forced Luke into a position that suited the narrative he was writing, rather than be respectful of Luke's journey in the OT.

"The three flashbacks were a late addition - One of the last things that went into the script before we started shooting. It’s similar to Rashomon, but the actual story motivation was that I wanted some harder kick to Rey’s turn: ‘You didn’t tell me this.’ I wanted some harder line that was crossed - a more defined thing that we could actually see - between Luke and Kylo. I didn’t want to do a big flashback. So one flashback that you repeat three times but that’s just one moment seemed more right. Ultimately, the only one who lies is Luke, in the very first flashback, where he omits the fact that he had a lightsaber in his hand. Kylo is basically telling the truth about his perception of that moment." - Johnson

From the TLJ art book posted at the start of this thread: https://imgur.com/a/vUTHA

Josiah Mitchell
Josiah Mitchell

I wanted to see the set more*

Mason Ross
Mason Ross

The lesson is, don't try to fight THE MAN with shitty old equipment and with suicide attacks. It doesn't work.

Jackson Cruz
Jackson Cruz

Again, though, the moral of the failure would have worked better with it being his failure to redeem Ben, his hubris taken from the same conviction that saved Vader.

Colton Campbell
Colton Campbell

You can't redeem that emo-brat. He's a pawn for an even more murderous superspacenazi-regime than the Galactic Empire, and he kills daddies cause he's in a phase.
Like, totally hating on everything, bro.

Nathan Nelson
Nathan Nelson

How the fuck do those things move?

Liam Harris
Liam Harris

Poor John Boyega, he was so hyped about getting to wield a lightsaber and possibly becoming a Jedi.

Yeah, well... get to the back of the transport.

You know... I originally meant this as a joke, but now that I think about it...

Tie Fighter: Back Seat
Falcon 1: get in the gun
Falcon 2: Stay back there and take care of Chewie...

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