What are your thoughts on Über?

Julian Russell
Julian Russell

What are your thoughts on Über?

Juan Sullivan
Juan Sullivan

Edgy Tryhard Garbage.

/thread

Aiden Sanders
Aiden Sanders

Ja ja Allies, sehr gut, sehr gut...

JEDOCH

Josiah Long
Josiah Long

I love Sieglinde and I wish I could impregnate her with my untermensch genes.

Landon Torres
Landon Torres

HÖWEVER

Jose Davis
Jose Davis

The "It looked like the allies had the battle in the bag, HOWEVER..." got old pretty fast. When is the next issue?

Nathan Edwards
Nathan Edwards

Why does that M1 Thompson have such a long barrel?

Jack White
Jack White

*Jaja, Alliierte, sehr gut, sehr gut... ALLERDINGS
FTFY

William Perry
William Perry

user, it's an avatar press comic about supersoldiers in WWII, not /k/ Illustrated.

Cameron Morris
Cameron Morris

Dont try to explain the logistics of war when the statistics you out out are fucking impossible even with super soldiers

oh and the mutant lobster pressure cooker 9000

Hudson Campbell
Hudson Campbell

It's paper crack mane.

Connor Thompson
Connor Thompson

It's shit but is it worse then Cross?

Parker White
Parker White

Vaguely interesting idea that quickly fell to pieces.

John Howard
John Howard

It's much cheaper then getting a cab.

Jayden Johnson
Jayden Johnson

Crossed has been good on two separate occasions and is usually at least funny even when it is utter shit.

Eli Nelson
Eli Nelson

It needed to be set in early 1942 rather than late 1944.

Then it'd be more believable and have more tension.

Have Germany open it's Eastern front with a blitz of Ubers and invade Britain with the extra conventional troops that would have been assigned to Russia.

Now you have a ton of built in tension, can America mobilize fast enough before it's allies are overrun, can Britain develop it's Uber program in time to stop the invasion, can Russia hold it against the onslaught? You don't need the German-wank that a lot of the comic developed into.

Which is the only real problem. The author clearly admires Germany, though not the nazis. But still is probably writing the allies to win.

Sebastian Wood
Sebastian Wood

You need include some superpowers to allow the Nazis to invade Britain, like freezing the English Channel or something.

Angel Morgan
Angel Morgan

It's a good way to get a ride, better than Lyft at least.

Jaxon Ortiz
Jaxon Ortiz

It shouldn't have started so late in the war
I mean Hitler already had a gun in his mouth in the first fucking issue that's how late in the war this thing started
Germany's military and infrastructure would've been devastated far past the point that they could have done anything other than declare a ceasefire and try to hold onto the territory they already had even with the Enhanced Humans

The premise is fine the execution is somewhat lacking and being an Avatar Press comic it is filled to the brim with gore for the sake of gore though you could make the excuse that this fits a war comic

Jayden Cook
Jayden Cook

if you do it too early, and Germany too big of a threat, than there would've been an undivided US attention on Europe instead of the mult-front battle the US waged of Western Europe, Africa and the Pacific

Isaiah Cruz
Isaiah Cruz

It's actually pretty accurate, the barrel looks longer because part of the stock is obscured by the arm. Thompsons are rather large guns.

Dylan Thompson
Dylan Thompson

Who /Patton/ here?

Nolan Ramirez
Nolan Ramirez

The only thing that would've been better is if Patton was a Cruiser instead of a regular Tankman

Luke Hernandez
Luke Hernandez

The proportions are wrong.

Liam Clark
Liam Clark

swear to god if Patton jobs I'm going to buy a trade just to set it on fire on camera

Gavin Bailey
Gavin Bailey

I think the entire point of setting it in the late war was to showcase how much leverage and damage super powered beings could do. Enough to literally undue and trivialize the sacrifices of all the men who died during the majority of the war.

Ian Long
Ian Long

Germany's military and infrastructure would've been devastated far past the point that they could have done anything other than declare a ceasefire and try to hold onto the territory they already had even with the Enhanced Humans

I mean that's the point, isn't it? Put Ubers in 1942 and there wouldn't even BE endless almost-got-'ems from the Allies because the German war machine at its peak plus Ubers would take over the world.

Ubers already make Germany unfairly powerful. Ubers plus maximum Nazi would be three issues long.

Connor Martin
Connor Martin

The only problem I have with Patton is that the style of warfare he excelled in was dependent entirely on him being flush with supplies and replacement manpower and operating as part of a larger combined assault across a massive theater. If he tried his real world tactics and strategy within the situation of Uber he'd rapidly attrition himself and leave his flanks open.

Blake Adams
Blake Adams

yeah it's an intentional thing.

i think Gillan might've also said that the concept was "What if the Nazis got the bomb" and the lateness might be related to that? like this is around when they would've got the bomb if they had got it?

only obviously the bomb is superheroes

Camden Butler
Camden Butler

It keeps him grounded. If he were one of the stronger ones you just know he'd be jumping in there all the time, throwin' elephants at fuckers.

This way he at least gets to get his lips wet while still understanding he'd be fucked seven ways to Sunday if he got careless.

Chase Murphy
Chase Murphy

tryhard edgy
trys hard to act edgy
bait detected

Charles Sanchez
Charles Sanchez

Don't one of the super soldiers say "We can't win, but we can make sure nobody else does"? They know they're gonna lose so they're going to take everyone else down with them.

Bentley Jones
Bentley Jones

We've already seen the lightning attack from ubers and matching offensive to counter offensive is still the best tactic. Assuming a surplus of inferior material (which is what the allies war machines were) Patton still excells. Everybody who would be pissed if patton jobs have a right to be. This should still be his jam.

Christian Thomas
Christian Thomas

The problem is that by the time the comic is set the Nazis were at critical shortages of practically everything, including food. Even if the Ubers completely, 100% stopped Allied bombing campaigns, which is a whole 'nother issue with the comic, you can't Halo up some factories.

Jaxson Morgan
Jaxson Morgan

I think if you can halo up bunkers and deconstruct/reconstruct matter. Nothing is off the table.

Daniel Price
Daniel Price

"We're totally going to lose this, you guys!"
pushes everyone's shit in
pushes everyone's shit in
take a minor loss that still kinda works out in their favor
continue to push everyone's shit in
"I swear, we're going to lose any day now!"

Daniel Watson
Daniel Watson

I get that, but what I meant was that they knew they had no infrastructure left. Should they defeat the Allies to the point where Washington and Moscow are begging to surrender unconditionally, Germany will eventually collapse because the entire country has been made to look like, well, the picture I posted.

It'd be a Pyrrhic victory at best.

Xavier Cook
Xavier Cook

Don't start nothing won't be nothing.

Christopher Hall
Christopher Hall

lose a single battleship at the enemy cost of five Zephyrs
enemy can gather no intel about effective use of zephyrs because they're all dead
same zephyrs could have completely wiped out your entire non-battleship ubers and unenhanced support troops before anyone noticed

Nathaniel Cruz
Nathaniel Cruz

My interest in this series centers around whether or not Larry is in it.

Dylan Carter
Dylan Carter

The series is currently set more than 8 months after the situation of Nazi Germany could be described as "desperate," that's the issue. The super Uboats the Germans invaded America with? In reality they took 6 months overhaul after construction to be sea worthy and by the start of the comic of the three shipyards that could perform the necessary work, one was captured, one was being bombed, and the other was besieged.

Zachary Murphy
Zachary Murphy

This might sound strange, but I enjoy the series while agreeing with virtually every complaint I've heard about its historical accuracy problems.

James Lopez
James Lopez

Okay is this comic good? What is it about?

After seeing all the Alan Moore quotes praising Uber, I started with Uber Invasion #1 and was completely confused with what I was reading. It was like I jumped into a fantasy world without context. What is this about? WWII with superpowers?

Joseph King
Joseph King

swear to god if Patton jobs I'm going to buy a trade just to set it on fire on camera

I think Patton jobbing is what it would finally take to break my suspension of disbelief.

James Russell
James Russell

What if the Germans found the A Bomb but the A Bomb is Superhumans.

There's some stuff before Invasion, I dunno how many trades.

Chase Edwards
Chase Edwards

Two have been shown to be able to.
The crazy Russian woman, and the one (was she German?) Halo sniper constructed her own tower.

Logan Rivera
Logan Rivera

They should have showed Allied armies shitting their pants more when first encountering enhanced humans.

For comparison, the very first time that actual military tanks were deployed in battle during WWI, German troops just flat out dropped their weapons and gave up.

They saw a bunch of clunking metal beheamoths coming at them, that they had never seen anything like, with bullets bouncing right off them, and went "HAHA NOPE, NOT DEALING WITH THAT."

And this was at the time when tanks were so shitty that most of them would break down before even making it to battle.

John Powell
John Powell

So the storytimes are over?

Chase Foster
Chase Foster

They're on hold until more issues come out probably.

Adam Diaz
Adam Diaz

Sure, the problem is that the comic never accounts for the fact that the European theater was massive and that actually deploying the ubers to the frontlines would not only take time, but that there are only so many ubers to go around.

Logan Lee
Logan Lee

Encountering an enemy Uber would be like encounter fucking Superman on the battlefield, if Superman was a psychopath.

The very rumor that they might get helplessly torn in half while advancing forward might have been enough cause to defect on a regular basis.

Ryder Torres
Ryder Torres

new issues SOON™ comrade

Jose Flores
Jose Flores

For starters there is only something like 2000 Ubers at the beginning of the comic, all but three of them are the early version tankmen that can be killed with man-portable explosives and high powered bullets, who can't maintain constant halo usage, and we're talking about war full of indirect artillery fire and landmines. When you account for logic the Allies would be able to maintain continued offensive operations for weeks because the Nazis simply wouldn't have the Ubers needed to stop them. And once they did have enough ubers, the need to concentrate their forces, particularly once Allied ubers came into play, would mean that the Allies wouldn't actually be facing that much uber resistance when you take the entire front into consideration.

I guess I'm asking too much out of series that took 30 issues to remember that the Italian front was a thing.

Alexander Sanchez
Alexander Sanchez

Italian front
like anybody gave a fuck
even the Italians

Caleb Allen
Caleb Allen

I'm pretty ignorant on WWII events, but I guess that's a blessing? This is fun as shit. Before reading, I thought it was going to be super soldiers tearing things up with their bare hands, but it's actually super soldiers blowing everything up with psychic laser blasts, which is really, really, stupid fun.

Brody Sullivan
Brody Sullivan

someone post it

Jackson Richardson
Jackson Richardson

I actually had a very, very similar idea to this before I had been exposed to Uber. Felt kinda weird when I found I had the same pitch as someone else.

Still, it's pretty cool.

Parker Young
Parker Young

Even a basic understanding of the logistics of WW2 will make Uber an infuriating read.

Ryder Young
Ryder Young

I like Lift better

Carter Fisher
Carter Fisher

Please tell me it's about Zyzz.

Adam Price
Adam Price

Uber Invasion is the second part. You need to read Uber first

Ian Campbell
Ian Campbell

Goddamn pressure cookers. My great grandfather used to tell me horror stories about them.

Nathan Walker
Nathan Walker

God, Geltmensch were bad.
Unbeknownst to everyone, the general had deciphered another fucking branch of the codex. Made only fucking 3 of them, and they lasted just long enough to greatly lengthen the storyline

John Miller
John Miller

better than getting a taxi from those indian fucks

Jack Barnes
Jack Barnes

but in my country I was a doctor

Jeremiah Ortiz
Jeremiah Ortiz

Superpowers in WW2 isn't exactly untrod ground. Hell, you could even make some parallels between Uber and Zenith, which, aside from being completely different in tone and content, predates it by 25 years.

Les Sentinelles is the better Weird War comic, and gets bonus points for being set during WW1 and taking a different thematic approach to supersoldiers.

Angel Bell
Angel Bell

I'm not saying I had a completely original OC DONUT STEEL idea. I just thought it was funny how close they ended up being.

The main, albeit huge, difference was that Germany won the war because the girl who inspired me to write it has a huge Nazi fetish.

Christian Brown
Christian Brown

When you account for logic the Allies would be able to maintain continued offensive operations for weeks because the Nazis simply wouldn't have the Ubers needed to stop them.

This isn't a very well known fact, but it was actually a huge problem to get soldiers on both sides to legitimately attempt to kill each other in anything but the more dire of offenses/defenses.

Most soldiers weren't there because they wanted to "murder" (quotes, because in war it isn't murder, but the principle of taking another person's life is similar) anyone, they just wanted a goddamn paycheck and go home. Each side would just take random potshots at each other to say "Yep, I totally did a solid day's work today."

Obviously, more modern military training takes this into account in order to train soldiers to dehumanize enemies, but the existence of an Uber on the field would make practically any regiment go "NOPE, I'M NOT BEING PAID ENOUGH FOR THIS SHIT."

Charles Sullivan
Charles Sullivan

Had to steal double stacking and mid-class Ubers from the Allies, but was somehow able to create Geltmensch, which apparently doesn't work with just anyone and has to be specifically tested for compatibility despite them not decoding the actual Codex entry on testing for compatibility.

Luis Martin
Luis Martin

Even a basic understanding of the logistics of WW2 will make Uber an infuriating read.

It's not supposed to be taken seriously. Just have fun with it (although it would be a lot more fun if the entire Allied powers didn't JOB constantly.)

Liam Ortiz
Liam Ortiz

Alternate Universe where Finland wins WWII

Leo Davis
Leo Davis

20% is the number usually thrown about, but that's not a hard rule and was massively impacted by morale, presence of others, etc. That is also specifically for riflemen and whatnot against specific enemy soldiers. It also cuts both ways, and would probably be exacerbated by being an Uber, as you'd now be mostly invincible and exploding people who can't hurt you into a shower of gore.

Evan Kelly
Evan Kelly

There comes a point where you have to ask, "how exactly are they pulling this shit off?" and it ties into the jobbing.

Alexander Miller
Alexander Miller

I heard it was more like 60%, but I have no source to back that up, so I'll have to look it up again sometime. This is, of course, not counting the variable that they're going up against Ubers.

Jordan Adams
Jordan Adams

I remember somewhere Gillen explained how he had to to a lot to hurt Germany but it's not as noticeable because a lot is like the basis for the book. (Like how the allies found out about superhumans to begin with)

Parker Reed
Parker Reed

Personally I find that history is something you should never try to wrongfully interfere with. You can't purposely lead people astray.

An adaptation, especially one written as a comic book should never be interpreted as historically accurate. It will take liberties as it should to make a compelling story. Just like a good historical movie. At some point you just need Germany to put the hurt on everyone else otherwise it would end in ten issues or less. A level playing field is always better than a curb stomp like the Americans and Russians racing towards Berlin.

Mason Young
Mason Young

I wonder how every single Uber the sides have picked have managed to be almost universally pyschos. I mean killing a few people at range, could be stomached by most people. Maybe a majority might be able to keep ticking because when they caved in that guys head with a shovel they were high on adrenaline. But the Ubers generally seem to be totally fine with smearing the blood of everybody in their way from Berlin to Warsaw.

Jaxson Young
Jaxson Young

Don't forget the allies ruined two Battleships, won't upgrade two more because niggers, lost track of the German battleships because masks, Russia's doing jack shit because their goddess went isolationist, and Japan sent their one Battleship(who should've been dead) after America instead of Russia or China.

We get it Kieron, you saw some smarmy yanks that didn't understand how fucked everyone else was in WW2. You didn't have to shit your story for it

Robert Rodriguez
Robert Rodriguez

mein fuhrer the allies have completely cut our supply of oil coming from the mediterranean and africa - what should we do?
dude, just super human army

Carson Sanders
Carson Sanders

I figured the process just made them more aggressive somehow
It's a good wonder though. Worth asking Gillen himself.

Jose Morales
Jose Morales

Give the average person super powers. Put them in a war and say there are few to no consequences for exercising said powers. What do you think they would do?

Justice League had it right.

Lucas Stewart
Lucas Stewart

Its always weird to see these "what if hitler did this one thing differently" comics and threads. The fight wasn't even close, germs got blown the fuck out

Leo Gonzalez
Leo Gonzalez

Really depends if they made the Soviets their enemy sooner rather than later, as well as diminished relations between the new world and the old. But mostly the Soviets.

James Lee
James Lee

girl who inspired me to write it has a huge Nazi fetish.
Lucky bastard

Benjamin Hill
Benjamin Hill

I have to ask though, what would bringing back a guy who killed himself when the Soviets start marching in, do?

Kevin Adams
Kevin Adams

Actually the end point sounds so much more interesting, then what we get. The endpoint hinted that all the nations get dissolved and parahuman feudalism ensures. So why couldn't we start at that.

Have you even read this comic. This is like gore, but art form every second page. The majority of people would fall to shreds over it. People had to walk out of Logan or Deadpool which are tame as shit in comparison. Now imagine doing it. Not seeing it. But feeling spines snap, blood splash everywhere and the screaming.

Aaron Morris
Aaron Morris

Yep.

Didn't matter much, actually. If you take the DCAU timeline into account the High Command said 'who will lead us?' and they just took Hitler out of the freezer because no one else could seeing as how the enemy had super heroes on the front lines. Implying he was either crazy or ballsy enough.

I have. My reasoning is as above. They lost a guy who supplied them with advanced super tech and when that guy disappeared they put the old guy back in charge.

Aaron Phillips
Aaron Phillips

Maria best girl. What was the reasoning for pouring all their focus on physical enhancements? I thought when they discovered they could split the stats, they could experiment with both kinds of soldiers, but I'm seeing mostly physical soldiers so far, and far less big flashy halo wizards.

Gabriel Brown
Gabriel Brown

Allies can only double stack Phys, Nazis can double stack Halo and Phys, Maria is an outlier and they have no idea her stacks are distributed but she would seem to have at least one physical stack.

Cameron Adams
Cameron Adams

It's great, but it would be good if it came out sooner. When is the next issue?

Kevin Lewis
Kevin Lewis

You can’t /thread your own posts ya dingus.

Adam Martinez
Adam Martinez

the thing with blondie and maria better lead to something.

I hope zany Ukrainian gets her shit absolutely pushed in by the monster she's helping create.

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