Despite more girls reading comics than ever before how come the West doesn't have an equivalent of Japan's shoujo genre Sup Forums?
The fact that Archie comics are still around shows there is a demand for this kind of high school romance stuff. Are publishers ignoring an untapped demographic Sup Forums?
Why do they all have downs
Just real quick, Mai-HiME ain't shoujo
>shoujo exists
>josei exists
>paranormal teen romance exists
>webcomics exist
>girls mostly read action shit because shoujo is garbage
'Western shoujo' has no place in today's political climate.
>Mai-hime
>Shoujo
This series was pretty obviously geated to male audiences first. And the manga adaptations all came out on a shonen magazine.
There are female fans, probalbly, but still a bad example for this discussion.
First post best post.
Name 3 shojo series that don't blow.
Because they're females and females may as well be clinically retarded.
While its mainly a mystery series, Gotham Academy had a lot of Shoujo elements.
You might as well call Nancy Drew shojo if Gotham Academy is.
Considering that it's a marketing term meaning "A manga in a magazine targeted to girls under 15", sure why not. HxH would be shoujo if it were in the right magazine. It's not a genre.
>Shojo isn't a genre
You know that it is, just like shonen is a genre. It's got its own cliches and characters.
They're literally the exact same. I'll be amused by you trying to point out differences between two comics in the same genre where the only actual difference is the art and that shoujo shows nipple.
It's not. Shonen, Shojo and so on are demographics.
This extremely limited view and expectations of what each demographic represents is why you often see people denying reality and saying shit like Death Note isn't shonen or K-On isn't seinen.
Not even the art. Some mangaka have done both shonen and shojo works. CLAMP probably being the most proeminent example.
They do, it's Marvel comics.
And what is the difference that can't be better explained by genre or the sex of the protagonist? It's all arbitrary marketing terms.
We had bishounen Wolverine before.
Yes, why did you think I was implying otherwise. It's just a matter of what target demographic they think that series is going to flourish on.
The only difference I can think is that shonen tends to be faster paced, more action based (and I don't necessarily mean fighting, but any kind quick problem solving, of characters being shown doing something tangible) while Shoujo has more talk. But that is a general ass statement and plenty of manga don't conform to that.
And this distiction applies only to shonen and shojo (young boy and girl demographics), older demographics do not have that distinction as there's plenty of Seinen that are purely character dramas without much action and in slow pace.
Also, there's the obvious "Do I think this series appeals more to boys or girls?", which is why people pitch it to these specific magazines.
There are a few newer magazines (and especially, "online magazines") that don't focus on gendered demographics, just age-based ones, or cater to other niches (like a videogame or horror anthology) that won't necessarily conform to one of these demographics.
Manga is ridiculously diverse and mainstream in Japan, there are magazines about whatever that also publish manga. We don't know them because western interest is highly focused on children and young adult manga, and on the big 5 or 6 traditional manga magazines that existed for decades and thus still rely on more rigid gender based demographics.
what a giant missed opportunity this show was. they really made some baffling decisions with it.
The american comic book industry is still reeling from the damage done by the CCA. Romance used to be a big genre of comics in america for teenage girls and adult women. Unless we get another surprise hit in the romance genre similar to what The Walking Dead did for horror, it'll be some years before that genre recovers in america.
Because Marvel Comics and DC are fundamentally punching fighting event comic companies who refuse to believe that everybody else doesn’t also enjoy capeshit exclusively for the same reasons, and whose only attempts to reach out have been to self absorbed webcomic artists who cannot into good writing or art.
>why nobody tries to fill in a niche that anime/manga completely had oversaturated
really makes you think
Wouldn't that have been the romance genre before it got killed off by Comics Code?
>K-On counts as seinen
Nani the fuck.
There aren't more women reading comics than ever, in fact there aren't more anything reading comics than ever
I think its this. If a girl or woman wants to read comics she has a huge variety of Japanese comics to choose from. If western publishers wanted to reclaim this market they should have done so before manga was introduced to the West. It will be really hard to get this audience now.
What's the shiznat of western comics?
Comic book industry is run by out of touch people, under watchful eye of even more out of touch activists.
They have no chance to appeal to female demographic.
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Because manga started to pander to girls since the beginning and never stopped while comics have made huge efforts for decades to alienate everyone who doesn't belong to their fruity little club of lonely white men obsessed with muscular men on spandex groping each other. The recent attempts to pander to audience outside the club are fucked up because the industry is contaminated with too much poison, these titles are unredeable shit like Marvel's America. Women already get their wish-fulfillment fantasies from YA and books like 50 Shades so they don't need comics. Meanwhile comics need readers besides the fruity little club
It's not. Manga Time Kirara magazines are not targeted to a specific gender, so this classification is pointless.
But the target audience were creepy adult men. K-on got a sizable female normalfag audience but that was unexpected. The manga and the anime were made for creeps
We're our equivalents to Paradise Kiss and Ore Monogatari? Comics like that can't exist under the current political/social climate.
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