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Juventus vs Real madrid /comfy thread/
Sticky ucl final
FORZA JUVENTUS LADS
Champion's League 2016-2017 Final
A man can dream
AMERICAN CHAMPIONS LEAGUE SOCCER FINAL THREAD
/yfmoc/
CLEVELAND INDIANS (28-25) V. KANSAS CITY ROYALS (23-30) THREAD: CAN'T FLIMFLAM THE ZIMZAM EDITION
/nba/ general - slim reaper edition
Juventus - Real Madrid CL final match thread
Whatever Cristiano, at least I'm not gay
ColombiANOs BTFO!!
GIVE YOUR ENERGY TO GIGI
Has there ever been a bigger contrast of good vs evil?
YANKEES V BLUE JAYS GAMETHREAD
/heem/: Mishka Edition
Official /turnleft/ OneMain Financial 200 @ Dover International Speedway Xfinity Thread
YOU SEE JUVE
OFFICIAL CL FINAL FOOD THREAD
Which athletes drew the most dimes?
/tennis/: Roland Garros / French Open - Day 7/8
Whats up Sup Forums so i just realized that the only reason that Sup Forums like TSUUU is because Reddit already...
Ready to get raped, Merengues?
FUCK THE FINAL IS TODAY I TOTALY FORGOT HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTT...
Which national team has the brighter future, Italy or France?
Eternal Moreirense Thread
Rond Arousing
OFFICIAL UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUETHREAD
/trans/ - Champignons Eagle Edition
Size doesn't matter
Hello Felix
Should he put Higuain in, or go 3-5-2 with Quadrado?
Has there ever been a club, bundesliga or elsewhere, that got so comprehensively btfo than /1860/?
Club Legends
Third kit
Tfw like both juventus and real
/holyalliance/ general
/tennis/: Roland Garros / French Open - Day 7
Fomular One
/180/: BETWAY WORLD CUP OF DARTS DAY 3
Dear user
/rug/
3th June 2017
/trans/ - Retro memes edition
You can ONLY post ITT if your team is the biggest in the country
Tfw you equal Messi today
For me it's FC Lahti
MotoGP /MGP/ General - Qualys Edition - ItalianGP
/rug/
I rate Zidane
OFFICIAL LIMITED/SEASONAL OREO FLAVORS POWER RANKINGS
He's going to be the next Ronaldo(the original, not the pootugal one)
Is Klay Thompson the new Harrison Barnes?
How hard will he choke tonight?
How come eastern Europeans aren't as good at soccer as the west?
I was that kid who run slowest and nobody actually wanted on their teams
/nfl/ general - THE OWL IS COMING HOME LADS edition
Which soccer team has the best female supporters?
List of people BTFO by a Halal victory:
/HEEM/ PRIDE Never Die
/heem/: Elpresador Edition
Is higuain the biggest JUST player a finals game?
Official /mlb/ general - regular season accomplishments edition
Tampa Bay @ Mariners Game Thread
Houston Astros at Arlington Rangers game thread
How you holding up bros?
You Can't
Juventus vs Real Madrid Prematch Champions League Final Hype Thread
/nba/ general - GET THAT SHIT OUTTA HERE
Eternal /trb/
Why is Argentina so good, bros? It's not fair. I want to be like them so bad
OFFICIAL CLEVELAND INDIANS (28-24) V. KANSAS CITY ROYALS (22-30) GAME THREAD: K'S AT THE K EDITION
DODGERS @ BREWERS
What does Sup Forums think about cycling?
Got a new phone and lost all my spicy Sup Forums memes
Red Sox vs O's Thread
Durrant GOAT Status
Sox at Tigers thread
/heem/ - WW GOAT Edition
OFFICIAL METS VS PIRATES GAMETHREAD
Ladies and Gentlemen, your NBA finales MVP
Yankees @ Blue Jays Official Game Thread
OFFICIAL GIANTS VS. PHILLIES GAMETHREAD
It's not fucking fair
Caca?
Scatalan news paper cover for tomorrow
>>76283775
You now remember Gareth Bale
Try node after years of django use
But he's gay
/nrl/
#Respect
Chile - Burkina Faso C
Which american teams have the most latino fans
Top 26 teams in europe
Do you really think Real Madrid will beat us?
User, from Sup Forums, you're on the air
Official /turnleft/ CWTS Bar Harbor 200 at Dover thread
What is this pose trying to convey...?
2018 est notre année
College Baseball Tournament
Please watch our (football) league
Is he the most famous athlete of all time?
You can ONLY post ITT if your team has been in a CL final
/SSL/ Swiss Super League general + /SSE/
St. Louis Cardinals at Chicago Cubs
One all star
11Dembele O
*walks towards the duodecima*
How do I get a body like Joe Rogan?
Heem mma
Some Greek user wanted a Panatinaikos Pepe yesterday, so here it is
What went wright?
Convince me that he did something wrong?
How come Mbappe is getting world record bids while nobody is interested in Rashford? They're about the same level
/tennis/ - Roland Garros
/good guys alliance/
It's tomorrow
So, shes fucking Lebron, right?
SKEEEEEE
Just give us the trophy already!
/180/: BETWAY WORLD CUP OF DARTS DAY 2
Is purging Gulenists a sport?
Aren't clubs getting a bit carried away here? He's only a kid who only has had one good season
Warriors aren't even that good
IF YOU SEE THIS IMAGE WHILE SCROLLING THE FIRST PAGE YOU HAVE BEEN VISITED BY
/trans/
We already know Shay Given. But who was Shay Taken?
*eats pussy*
/cric/ - CHAMPIONS TROPHY THREAD #1
/tennis/ - Roland Garros / French Open - Day 6
Trannies are the final red pill that will destroy women's sports once and for all
Una perro velo caca
For me...
If this series goes 7 games, will it finally prove beyond any doubt that the NBA is rigged?
Tfw more excited about new episode of Twin Peaks than the CL final
Motor/sp/ort general - Big E edition
F
Who /nervous/ here?
>>96
How did Real Madrid destroy him?
Is Perro Caca an athlete? Asking for a friend
I've had incredible grip strenght ever since i was born
How does it make you feel that England will NEVER win another international trophy?
Why managers don't work set pieces to death like in American football?
/tennis/: Roland Garros / French Open - Day 6
/nba/ - follow the script edition
/indy/ - Indycar General - Dual in Detoilet Edition
What went wrong?
Black Eyed Piss opening the CL final
Theo will play for Spain
Really made me think
What do you think was Michael Jordan's reaction to Lebron James loss to the warriors last night?
/afl/
Did he lose because he's black?
/mma/ and/or /heem/
AfI
People rave about black prospects
/f1/ - Formula 1 General - family edition
Tell me the greatest sports movie of all-time brother!
"wahhh wahhh, I just want me and kyrie to against Steph, not Steph AND KD! wahhhhh wahhhh"
SHANNON SHARPE, LAST NIGHT'S GAME PROVED WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG...
*blocks your shot*
/hoc/
He has nothing left to prove, 2 rings as a top player on a top team. He is leaving as soon as possible...
Has this guy been reduced to be basically a role player now?
Patriots wins
Oh, h-hey KD
/mls/ general - TRICKY edition
Perro caca
Why aren't more people talking about gabriel jesus...
No matter how much shit you're gonna talk about NBA finals...
Yfw LeBron isn't even the 2nd best player of all time
People claimed he was top 5 all time, let alone compared to Jordan
Why do these two teams bootyblast everyone on Sup Forums?
Tfw you need to add a top 3 player on a 73-9 team just to beat the goat
The GOAT
I hope everyone enjoyed Game 1
The best NBA Finals ever, they said
After how shitty, boring, and predictable these NBA playoffs have (and how awful basketball is as a sport)...
LGTSS
SPELLING BEE GAMETHREAD 3
MLB General Thread: Funny Soler Edition
*ruins the league*
NO! THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING! I'M IN CHARGE HERE!
/nba/ general
NBA Finals Thread #6
Daily reminder that the most ALPHA LEADER of the free world has endorsed one of the greatest basketball players in...
How bad would it reflect on his career if he gets swept in 4 or 5?
Is baseball a dying sport that will be buried along with baby boomers?
You MUST concede that if LeBron finds a way to bring the Cavs to win, that he is in fact GOAT. GSW are way too stacked...
NBA Finals Thread #4
Who's gonna win?
NBA FINALS GAME 1 THREAD 3
SPELLING BEE GAMETHREAD 2
NBA FINALS THREAD #3: DA LAND EDITION
NBA FINALS THREAD 2
/fifa/
OFFICIAL GAME ONE 2017 NBA FINALS
ITT:
Happy birthday to chicharito
/rug/
The "GOAT"
/brg/ - Brasileirão General - Missing Garrincha Edition
They should've won Usa 94
Boston Red Sox vs Baltimore Orange Ducks game thread
10 days until we completely, utterly...
This really IS a semen-slurping sport
Eternal Arsenal Thread
YANKEES V BLUE JAYS GAMETHREAD
/trans/ - I missed half the thread edittion
/cric/
/HEEM/ - WITCHCRAFT EDITION
ITT : we kindly pick a new sport for the Phillipines
Hello ameribros can you explain me your league real quick?
Arsenal have bid 100m euro bucks for the new Henry
ITT: We post the commentary of some of the greatest sports moments of all time
Is he the next Kylian Mbappé ?
/box/
Why does everyone hate him so much?
/nba/ Finally edition
/nba/ general - GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER edition
How the FUCK did LeBron lose to these guys?
This really happened
UEFA Champion League Women thread
I don't even watch basketball but this look so iconic
Wins a league called >manurewinslol where only manure competes
How good is virgil van dijk?
United customers butthurt as fuck
There are ""people"" browsing Sup Forums right now who think Real Madrid will lose a Champions League final
What's his endgame?
/heem/
How would you rank the winners of Europe's Golden Boy competition?
ITT: Sports you are, literally, the only person in the planet who watch
Whats the brazil equivalent of other sports?
/nfl/ general - IMPENDING DOOM edition
/180/: BETWAY WORLD CUP OF DARTS DAY 1
It's finally out. Thoughts?
Complete the following sentences for a bonus prize
What news did Doctor Rafik bring to Cristiano Ronaldo's girlfriend?
Who is the best dressed man in football?
Your reaction when an unfit Bayol who hasn't played for months starts over the most inform player(Isco) at Madrid for...
Is it the most insanely difficult trophy to win?
OFFICIAL OAKLAND ATHLETICS (23-29) V. CLEVELAND INDIANS (27-24) GAME THREAD: ICE KLUBE EDITION
/hoc/
/tennis/: Roland Garros / French Open - Day 5
I got a girl's number and we were texting a bit but she didn't respond to my last text and it's been like 14 hours now...
Do you r8 him Sup Forums?
Well?
Spelling Bee
Who you want on your National Team for next year?
Le give up nearly $100 million dollar man
Ok guys hear me out
New Sup Forums reclassifying sports thread
/tennis/ ATP- Roland Garros / French Open - Day 5
Holy Alliance™ General
Tfw we're the good guys
Why don't they make a containment board for yuropoors to shit post about divegrass
FIFA Ranking June 2017
Whatch our legue
/trans/ - Penis enlargement to China when edition
Never forget
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2017-18 UEFA Champion's League
Can we agree that next year's EL will be GOAT?
Get rekt WÅ‚ochy
Redpill me on the sport of cricket. Why do only pajeets and Australians play it?
5 (five)
Court of Arbitration for Sport reject @Atleti appeal against transfer ban
/nrl/
Fifa u20 World Cup
Lol americans aren't good at any relevant sports!
Quick, before the mods get here!
Why do so many Argentines play in Serie A?
Losing 3-0 against a Jap team
I need to speak to an Italian ASAP. I have a football related question only he can answer
/nba/ 3-1 lead editon
/heem/ Next up /mma/
Can Sup Forums help identify these players? This is from MLB The Show 2017
/hoc/
Referees
MLB General Thread: Soler Edition
Is he the biggest crybaby in the NBA?
Nice "parity" you got there NHL
How do we fix this shit?
ITT:
/hoc/
Rockies at Mariners
Should LeBron Go Back to Africa?
Pitssburgh Penguins vs Nashville Predators Game Thread
Who had/has the biggest dong in sports? Horses are not athletes
FUCK AmeriKKKa
Who can stop Belgium in 2018? they have a ridiculous team, only France can compete talent wise
Boston Red Sox vs Chicago White Sox game thread
(STANLEY CUP FINALS) NASHVILLE PREDATORS AT PITTSBURGH PENGUINS GAME 2
YANKEES V ORIOLES GAMETHREAD
OFFICIAL METS VS BREWERS GAMETHREAD
Why did I marry a 50 year old whore
Why is the Dab King so likable lads?
THE CHAMPIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNS
Ha
OFFICIAL OAKLAND ATHLETICS (22-29) V. CLEVELAND INDIANS (27-23) GAME THREAD: VOTE LINDOR EDITION
Has there ever been a country so full of cancerous cunts as this one...
Eternal /trb/
This was happened last night at the Asian champion club matches japan's Urawa reds vs South Korean Jeju united
Who's on the basketball rushmore?
Muh non-league
One of these men has just purchased your favorite sports team
This is the leader of the free world
HNK Rijeka just won Croatian Football Cup. They also won Croatian Football League this season...
Was he born bald?
/Tennis/ - French Open - Day 4 at Roland Garros - Choking Ocean edition
You are stranded in a remote island in the Pacific
Say my name
Garrincha's exhumed body has gone missing from graveyard
Which one of you did this?
What's his name again?
/heem/: Miesha Edition
Heem
Does anyone actually believe any of the Donald Sterling (((controversy))) is true...
Rüdiger: "There's too much racism in Serie A. We must act!"
Finally beat my stepdad in 1-on-1 hoops
Italy - San Marino friendly match
No footie for almost 2 months
/nba/ general - n-word edition
Is this the most famous athlete alive?
Is he the only openly homosexual male in team sports?
They're showing top highlights of Real Madrid this season
Just how jealous are yuropoors that they will never have a meme as quality as "SKEEEEEUUUP"?
Sup Forumsstros vs twins game 3
/trans/ - Who makes up these bullshit rumours edition
Friendly reminder that this is NOT a sport
Is Soccer Goalie the least athletic position in all of sports?
Realistically, how can the Cavs stop the Warriors? Would tiring their shooters out work?
/f1/ - Formula 1 General - Divegrass edition
I hate this piece of shit with a passion
You now remember Jackson Martinez
What do you think of these bad guys?
Who is the Michael Jackson of sports?
How come only Americans produce alpha males in sports?
John Clayton Laid Off By ESPN
White cornerbacks
Netherlands - Morocco
K E K
/Tennis/ - French Open - Day 4 at Roland Garros
/tennis/ - Roland Garros / French Open - Day 4
/bundes/
OFFICIAL STATE OF ORIGIN GAME 1 THREAD #4
Do they belong in the same tier as Real Madrid,Barcelona and FC Bayern Munich?
He did it again lads
If ancelotti gets /exposed/ and they win the bundes next season, how will germany react?
Overweight mature men wearing pajamas playing this game day after day after day without even breaking a sweet
Please post all your juve pepes because i need to have a folder ready for champions league
/cric/ - the cricket
Tennis, The Sport Of Autists
World Cup U20
Sup Forums webm thread?
/BBB/ Big Baller Brand General: ESPN Edition
Name me one reason the pats wont win the superbowl again this year
/hoc/
/mlb/ general - WHEEL IN THE SKY edition
Redpill me on Wilt Chamberlain, I've got him 3rd or 4th alltime right now
State of Origin Game 1 Official Game Thread
Official State of Origin Game 1 Thread
/heem/: culinary integrity edition
I've got a question for sports fans outside of the US
Is covfefe elite?
Bill "The Cuck Guy" Simmons has gone full SJW by joining Vox
Report: LaVar Ball cost Lonzo Ball $10 million in sneaker deal
If you don´t want a legend like this to win the champions you´re a piece of shit
Remember when Sup Forums was one of the hottest meme factories around here?
ITT: The criminally underrated
What went wrong?
/rug/
Angels vs. Braves Game Thread
OFFICIAL NATIONALS VS. GIANTS GAMETHREAD
Check out that panty line on Katie
You guys notice how in interviews literally every athlete says they like Tokyo...
Does LaVar Ball have a paid army of internet shills...
How do i get a thicc beard im 22 and get nothing
If you were a player, why care about a championship? Just take whoever gives the highest paid salary and fuck hot women?
Astros @ Twins game thread
What sport is this?
Mendy, Bernardo Silva, Walker, Alexis, Ederson and possibly Mbappe/Fabinho
OFFICIAL BOSTON RED SOX @ CHICAGO WHITE SOX GAMETHREAD
Reds @ Jays
Can anyone stand fucking Mia Khalifa and her dumbass fucking suppoused "obsession" with sports...
Another Messi vs. Ronaldo thread
>tfw NFC West
Dodgers @ Cardinals
Phillies @ Marlins game-thread #2
OFFICIAL METS VS BREWERS GAMETHREAD
Yankees at Orioles
/mlb/ general - Big Bryce Edition
/trans/ - Steel City edition
/heem/ Pearl Gonzalez Edition
ESPN's top 100 most famous athletes
BAC of 0.00
Approved Meta Thread
Oakland Athletics @ Cleveland Indians
Go to Sup Forums
*reads a book*
Why are jordanfags so insecure all of a sudden?
Francesco Totti:
Humans have only been eating grain in the last 15 000 years. We didnt evolve with grain and cant digest it properly...
Superior Americans never div-
/heem/: patrick cote edition
/heem/ - karolina edition
This is the most famous portuguese man of all time
/Tennis/ - French Open - Day 3&4 at Roland Garros
Which players would you choose for your team (10 players +you)?
Is there a better active FK taker?
The match is this saturday
At what age is it no longer acceptable to allow your son to play divegrass? I was thinking around 8 or 9...
ITT: crowd shots during sport events
Dominate Rugby, having won the Six Nations
Is he a chequebook manager?
As a boss, would you hire these guys? I would not
/nfl/ general - IMPENDING JUNE edition
Can you believe this team has never won the Premier League?
What the fuck is his problem?
Is it the most insanely difficult trophy to win?
Why is this faggot SJW shill coach still fucking alive? As a veteran and victim of a terror attack in Iraq...
Has there ever been a nation so full of cancerous cunts?
How do we make Americans see the error of their ways?
/copalib/ obligatory thread
ITT: players your gf salivates over
He's injured AGAIN
/nba/ general - OLD NEWS is GOOD NEWS edition
Shut up u egg and get out of cowells hole. Won't tell u again
/hoc/: 12 shots, 5 Goals edition
B-but Sup Forums told me
SPEEDWAY
Baseball isn't boring!
/Tennis/ - French Open Day 2 at Roland Garros
You know a player is one of the greatest if even Trudeau pays his respects to him
Can he fix dortmund?
WIR SIND BESCHISSEN WORDEN
His country didn't win champions league
Eternal Arsenal Thread
Look at his swollen and enlarged head
Should America's sporting achievements be credited to Germany?
/trans/ - Ross Barkley is shit edition
The Cavs will get blown out like what Spurs did to the Heat back in '14
We all agree right?
/tennis/ - Roland Garros / French Open - Day 3
Well well well
Has there ever been a nation so full of cancerous cunts?
Wasted talent thread
/bundestran/
/heem/ - mma and combat sports thread
Why do people rate Yashin, but not Akinfeev...
0-0
Traitor Tuchel Tears
Wait, what?
Americans unironically think this looks good
Eternal Moreirense Thread - 2016/2017 season retrospective edition
/trans/
World Cup U20
Really gets the cranium cracking
Why is this allowed? How the fuck people can watch that?
Who would the USA have to beat to be taken seriously?
Aesthetic kits
/hoc/
Is he the most dominant white athlete in basketball history?
Does this sum up what is wrong with ESPN right now?
Perro caca
Does Sup Forums prefer international or club football?
PENS VS PREDS POST GAME - FINNISH GOALTENDING EDITION
/mlb/ general - Buster Posey in a fight Edition
Any other sports figures with significant others who are gross pigs?
Penguins v. Predators: SCF Game 1 3rd period edition
/f1/ - overcut Edition
/heem/
ITT: GOAT-tier football music
Preds at Penguins SCF Game Thread
Disgraced Sports Figures
/nrl/ - eternal origin hype thread
/tennis/ - Rainland Sorrows
PREDS AT PENGOONS SCF GAME THREAD
Cincinnati Reds @ Toronto Blue Jays Official
Meta Board Discussion Thread
STADIUMS THREADS
*leads his team to a treble in his first year*
Has there ever been a nation so full of cancerous cunts?
Most expensive player ever is a literal )))hajji(((
OFFICIAL PREDS @ PENGUINS PRE GAME / GAME THREAD
Phillies @ Marlins game-thread
ITT: We write a letter to Lionel Messi, three words at a time
/mlb/ MLB GENERAL BRYCE SLAPPER EDITION
13 days until we completely, utterly...
Post em fags
Giving your primary striker any number other than 7, 10, or 9
What went wrong?
Is Harry Kane elite?
Hey I'm here for the job Sup Forums
Now that's it's all over
/HEEM/ Big Brown Down Edition
JUST
/heem/
If he goes to Milan, will it be considered a step back?
/trans/ - The New Boys Edition
OFFICIAL METS VS BREWERS GAMETHREAD
SEA @ COL - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD
OFFICIAL NATIONALS VS. GIANTS GAMETHREAD
ITT post players, either still active or recently retired...
Ernesto Valverde is the new @FCBarcelona coach
Jordan vs Lebron
See I told you guys that I really really like females
Dodgers vs cards
Thank you, Rome
/Bundes/ - promoiton game
Which meme team has been worse for their respective sport?
/Relegation/
Is Free! a good sports anime?
Meta Board Discussion Thread
/hoc/
2017 NBA Finals Prediction thread
Houston Astros @ Minnesota Twins Game Thread
Official Boston Red Sox @ Chicago White Sox Gamethread
AC Milan
Benvingut
TSSSSSSSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...
YANKEES ORIOLES GAMETHREAD
WOOF WOOF WOOF WE ARE PREMIER LEAGUE WOOF WOOF BARK
*leaps towards the premier league*
Joachim Loew
Kit wankers BTFO
What was he thinking, Sup Forums?
Hudersfield vs Reading Penalties edition
Blayoff Benulties
Which superteam is better?
CL final
The end
Which one?
JUST
TSUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU...
How does it feel to have a good national team, bros?
CHAMPIONSHIP PLAY-OFF FINAL GAMETHREAD 2
Does a world war matter more than a world cup?
Americans celebrate Memerial Day today
You don't REALLY think he's stupid enough to think this is his son, do you?
It's better if we don't win the CL final
Antonio Valencia
What a fucking legend
Celtic say they would be open to a Wayne Rooney move
FUCK OFF!
Last threads
New Social Fap Thread
Miscellaneous
Quads in thread: I push the lever, cut off my dick
Miscellaneous
This my cat Mousey say something nice
Miscellaneous
Be me 18 y/o Turk living in Germany
Miscellaneous
What loli part is best loli part?
Miscellaneous
Op here of kristin ama
Miscellaneous
New FB IG VSCO
Miscellaneous
It's Caturday, post cats
Miscellaneous
Got a girl solidly passed out on my couch in my apartment, wat should I do to her anons?
Miscellaneous
I love being a stripper. I make $300+ a day (after tip out), I can come to work and leave whenever I please...
Miscellaneous
Rekt. Lets do it
Miscellaneous
Wwyd thread be brutal as you want
Miscellaneous
Whats the best way to insult a german
Miscellaneous
YLYL. :D
Miscellaneous
Does the busdriver notice if i steal
Miscellaneous
FB/IG/VSCO 4
Miscellaneous
COMPUTER SCIENCE MAJOR???? WHICH ONE
Miscellaneous
Hot for teacher thread: candids preferred or in general clasroom pics; only real teachers pls
Miscellaneous
Texas thread. Bonus for 903
Miscellaneous
If you were paid 200000 a year to be permanently naked- would you? You would have full immunity to any legal trouble...
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