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How do you beat up a Shokan in real life?
Buy bideo game
Are the originals like this too?
Nioh bread
Hello guys generic white whore here please masturbate to me and buy AAA games
It's time to discuss the indie game of the year
Valve will sell all the rights of the Half Life franchise to a game dev of your choosing
Is it worth upgrading to a ps4pro?
*eats too much Doritos*
Welcome to the vidya spaltoon how patrician are ya?
Reminder Switch piracy will be up and running day 1 for Bayonetta 3 and SMTV
What is the best game for RP'ing as a murderer?
HOW DO I BEAT THESE TWO
/25+/
I'm bored out of my mind so far. I just got to the palace Vaan is supposed to sneak into
We write to Sony using one word at a time
Have to write 1,000 essay
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE DUDE DUDE DUDE DUDE DUDE DUDE DUDE FUCKING WEEEEEEEEED AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA DUDE!!!!!!!!!!...
Game has a cute brown girl
Getting into this game, a few hours in. Any stuff I should know...
I make games for cell phones, AMA. Development pipelines, current events, apple v android
Can we have a genuine discussion about Pokemon Go?
When the fuck is Team Ninja going to release DoA sex dolls?
What would you wish for after winning Twisted Metal? How could you word it so you won't get fucked over?
I want to play Sora's game right now!
Rainbow
I'M GOING TO LYNCH THAT COTTON PICKING PORCH MONKEY PRAXIS
ITT: Fuck you I liked it
American character
Kirby Thread
Is it worth 10$?
VR is nothing more than a meme still
Is this worth playing?
Fuck SEGA
Thinking about torrenting this pile of reiterated garbage but before I do I have a few questions just to make sure its...
This is not okay
Minimum wage job
You guys told me this game was good, why did you lie?
NEW DEVIL MAY CRY TRAILER (PT:9) THE TIME HAS COME
Will we ever get a good D&D video game again?
So did viewing revolutions low sales basically doom US Im@s? Would it have been different if it wasn't VR exclusive?
It's time to come back to eve online, Sup Forums. Together we can rule the galaxy as father and son
Got this thinking I could get the blonde QT as DLC
Runescape
What is Sup Forums emulating?
I never played nor I want to play Nier:Automata, but I wonder why do people love this game?
*saves your company*
Kingdom Come
Work all week, no time for videogames
Pokémon IRL
I sure love dealing with randomized rng explosions in a game where knowing boss patterns and movements is key to victory
*leaks your video games*
What are the 10 most common weapon types in FPS
What is it about Link that attracts so many girls to him?
JACKBOX PARTY PACK 3 WITH Sup Forums
This kills the reboot
ACDC Town
SIIVAGUNNER THREAD
How do you fight these fucking things...
Name 5 things about breath of the wild that didn't improve on things from other 3d zeldas
Two week vacation at my dad's place
Crusader Kings 2
Welp this game is awesome
Character catches you in their setplay
So, I made 110€ on steam by being a lucky faggot with opening a PUBG lootcrate
SYSTEM SHOCK REMAKE DEAD IN THE WATER
KCD dev apologized for everything he said in an interview with a german website
Is a N3DS with CFW the best handheld ever made?
Hmm.. which one 2 play?
Dearest Sup Forums
Talk about video games in this thread
Design the most frustrating game to speed run
Just turned 22 and my parents gave me a $20 Steam gift card. What should I spend it on?
Japanese cooking game
Out of these female character designs, which ones do you like best? Whuch ones do you hate?
Looks like Sup Forums has won 4craft v10, congratulations!
Has you vidya taste changed over the years?
Sonic was only ever meant to exist in 2D. Everything in the third dimension and beyond is shit
Just wanted to buy a couple of deeply discounted games before the Lunar New Year sale ended
Online multiplayer is a bonus. The games more than make up for the cost of an Xbox Live Gold subscription
Meanwhile at peaceful Sup Forums
This is a bit odd but, what are you using as wallpaper/theme on your ps3?
Biomutant Developer Interview
Don't just play, Sup Forums
This kills the blu-ray disc
Wake up to the sound of a vacuum
Hundreds of years since the bombs dropped
Why did this need to be remade from the ground up, is it because there's only so much you can do with PS2 era assets?
Switch Hopefuls
A female boss tries to seduce the player through the monitor
How old is Sup Forums?
What the FUCK did they mean by this
Tfw it's literally one of the best games ever made
Remember be friend with him
2016 + 2
My wife makoto is so pretty
Dead God I hope it's good
Mgs:V
Sup Sup Forums I just wanted to congratulate you on being the literal worst site on the whole internet thanks bye
IM IN CONTROL HERE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I gotta give you white bois props, this game is pretty fun. They just need to fix the HDR
How do we fix the lack of female representation in video games Sup Forums?
Why do Japs misinterpret Christianity so hard? Every time they try to make a story about it...
What are some games where the devs were so creatively bankrupt that they started taking ideas from fans?
Post your favorite vidya comics
Are you a toxic player?
Warrior
Degenerates like you belong in a New Vegas Thread
Are there any games where the hero turns out to be the villain?
I'm getting really tired of this bad end shit, it has completely ruined my immersion in this game...
What's your favorite thing about Lyndis?
Fire Emblem Heroes
How do you guys prefer to play your videogames?
I feel like punching the shit out of everything and everyone
Zero Escape Thread
No Banjo 20th Anniversary
What went right?
Which series do you honestly prefer between Megaman Classic and Megaman X?
Think they'll announce something for the Automata anniversary?
EDF x Starship Troopers
Night in the Woods
What does Sup Forums think of Condemned?
Who stole his "going into games" machine, Sup Forums?
Metal Gear Survive
Why do people hate on Sonic's friends?
Muh realism
Are OHKO moves ever okay in video games?
Bought a PS4 during Gamestop's Black Friday sale
Koikatsu
So what was Eredin and the Wild Hunt's actual goal? I get that they needed Ciri's magical ability
Ctrl+F
Final.Fantasy.XII.The.Zodiac.Age-CPY
NEW COMPILE HEART GAME
Why haven't you become a professional indie dev yet user?
Year of the dog
Final Fantasy 12 the Zodiac Age JUST GOT CRACKED!!!!
SMASH SWITCH
Even better than mama!
You can only pick one
Which series has gone on far too long and needs to be put out of its misery?
Mods are asleep
Sonic 2 is soooooo much better than Sonic 1!
Redpill me on this game. Is it worth buying?
Kirby thread
Playing metal gear survive
Post your death animation
Ace Combat 5 is pure ludo
What the fuck was his problem?
WoW
Mobile games
I think all JRPG dubs should be done by Scottish people
Majora's Mask is awful. Who thought that autistic time limit mechanic was a good idea?
Left or right?
You received a friend request!
Still the best
Game has an abstract dream sequence
Sup Forums Plays Fire Emblem 3 Book 2
This game honestly takes some of the shittiest design decisions I've ever seen
Kingdom Come Deliverance Screenshots
Who would you nominate for this kind of crossover?
Now that Monster Hunter is popular in the west can we expect some Ubisoft/EA ripoff?
Ludonarrative dissonance
Share your most impressive pieces of hidden or obscure gaming lore
Why can't I get into Breath of the Wild's world?
Sex minigame
Not even memeing, but I don't quite understand the love for this game. It's faster Souls with a gothic horror aesthetic...
Untitled
DUDE ALL YOUR ATTACKS MISSED AND YOU LOST LMAO
When are they going to put her in Shinobi Refle?
Under Night
Seriously, is this game worth it? I've seen lots of people saying it has improved tremendously since launch...
First time I've ever felt this way about a videogame character before:
Subnautica thread
SYSTEM SHOCK REMAKE DEAD IN THE WATER
Why do girls like Zelda games?
Sup Forumsidya Drawthread
Wow, hyper-dimension neptunia huh?...you must--wow
What are some games with shark enemies/bosses?
Thanks for supporting our game Sup Forums
Can we all agree that this was the last great console generation?
"I'm glad I played the same game for years till I got the world record"
Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3
Who else /masterrace/ here?
ITT: Casual filters
What's your opinion on this box
Win a very close game
New SCP Secret Laboratory thread
Rydia has the best design out of all of the female Final Fantasy characters
SCP thread
WAR
Thoughts?
*whistles for Witcher thread*
Halo 4 sucked but this is hands down the best looking Cortana
Looks like Nintendo won the console race
Hey Sup Forums, rate my transmog please
ITT: lost media
What is the Heart of Darkness of video games?
Sup Forums hates this game now
Square Adding Additional Story Content to FFVII
With another decade coming on the horizon, is this still the greatest RPG of this decade
Kingdom Come > Witcher 3
>>407265569
Tell me 1 trope you hate in vidya
Smol!
What's going on with all this libel and slander piling on /ourguy/?
Yandere Simulator
I just got done replaying Custom Robo
Quick
Why isn't the "cute but cool animal" setting used more in games?
Sorry but there's no such thing as "challenge" when you have unlimited continues...
What killed the MOBA, Sup Forums?
You own the best controller ever made, don't you?
Post real life fighting game characters
Thief thread, get in here taffers
Assassin's Creed: Origins
Decide to try out this game
Be honest Sup Forums, did you manage to beat either of these without using a guide?
Convince me to buy this, Sup Forums
If you hate his games you hate FUN
YOU AREN'T SERIOUSLY GOING TO LET A COUPLE SLAVSHITS OUTSELL MY GAME, ARE YOU?!!
JRPG
Alright user, it's that time of the week, because you behaved so well and you're special
Meanwhile on communist Sup Forums
What are some good gaming channels?
What games do girls like playan?
Keep yer feet on the ground
My graphics card is now outdated
The whole game is building toward getting into Hyrule Castle and fighting Ganon
Risk of Rain:Part Deux?
Ghost of Tsushima PS4 Open World/Oblivion inspired game
Why does bibo look so young?
If it's not presented by CAVE, why bother presenting it at all?
Is Persona Dancing the best rythm game?
OH NO NO NO NO
Released 2/1/2018
EVE Online thread
He doesnt own a 144hz monitor with free/gsync
Meanwhile on prehistoric Sup Forums
Games set in America
Meanwhile in bizarro Sup Forums
What the fuck was rocksteady's problem? the shitty tank sections were bad enough
Depressing battle stations thread
ITT: impressive game details
How many innocent people has this menace murdered by throwing them to their deaths with her errant gravity waves?
I just got persona 1 and 2. never played a persona game. what should i expect Sup Forums?
A lot of the Pokémon ROMs have been removed from pretty much every website...
Wow fastest ive ever dropped a preorder
Sup Forumsermin Sup Forumseekend
Yume Nikki thread
ITT: THAT enemy
Tfw
Tifa
Gtao modders?
Dungeon Thread
The Elder Scrolls
>>407255337
Do you think that using classcial music in vidya is pretentious?
*blocks your path*
Why are fighting games so unpopular online despite having a vocal fanbase?
Nostalgia Thread
Why aren't you playing Mogeko's Castle
*pays thousands of dollars to be in your game*
Have you invested into Lyn Emblem yet?
*4 hour cutscene*
Metal Gear Survive
>>407253479
What are some videogames where I can build castles?
How you handle defeat, Sup Forums
PC wins again
Secret lab
Kingdom Hearts 3 releasing this year hype thread
Doesn't appear in Directs
Vidya tropes you hate
What are some lies that the industry has sold you?
Game has a brown girl
The church is evil and corrupt
Name an RPG for this system that isnt pokemon or Golden Sun, you cant
So now that the dust has settled can we all agree this game was pretty fucking good
GIRUGAMESH
Steam profiles were a mistake
Who is the most shamelessly shilled video game character ever?
And I need you to recover
Who's your favorite videogame voice actress and why is it Tara Strong?
When you are such an Apex Chad that you willingly forego all earthly pleasures like alcohol and wenches in favor of...
DADDY. PANTIES
If you could erase one genre or game from existence, which one would it be?
Screenshot Thread
Final Fantasy XV for PC was built from the ground up, is a generation ahead of the console version
Yeah, yeah, nurse, can you just WAIT one goddamn second before you pull the plug? I'm trying to finish a raid here
Why can't Sup Forums accept that the GOTY frontrunner is an indie?
Silent Hill
Brainlets
Who is the best Skullgirls character, and why is it Valentine, Sup Forums?
Tfw you will never relive the glory days of the Xbox 360
Easily the worst game I have ever played
How do you respond without sounding mad?
Need to beat Normal mode to unlock Easy mode
What's the matter?
Is this shit playable on non-supercomputers yet? Last I checked they were only making $30...
Sup Forums is a now a Sony board
Go to
ITT vidya tropes you hate
Is it ever coming back?
Sup Forumsermin Sup Forumseekend
Out of these female character designs, which ones do you like best? Whuch ones do you hate?
So, after you take me back to my place, how about we do some....overtime?
Vermintide 2
You did remember to play the 2004 GBA game to know the importance of this character, right?
You are going to buy her game, aren't you?
Switch Thread
"Hey buddy! Are you sure you're gonna leave these behind?"
Elite Dangerous is so comfy. Finding a great station to do some space trucking...
Post your top 10 games. Others rate
El goblino
Hey bro, you should kill 16 of these colossi
Play a stealth game
Picked it up on humble, about 10 hours in
Delayed to 2019
It's out
I'm getting a PS4 with the following games
Just got this game. Do I go for the English VA or the Japanese VA?
Why is Overwatch so hugsies and feelsy? No one instults each other
3D Platformers
Start game, minimalist intro, cool easy action tutorial first stage, not as cool or crazy as if hoped from the hype...
Skyrim
Game only you seem to have played thread?
Koikatu
I5-4570
Rina really was the best thing in Yakuza Kiwami, i love this little lesbian...
What is your opinion on this man?
Wait at the main menu of a game
ITT: god tier video game covers
WAVEBIRD
3x3 all times favorites
Yakuza
Will these be a collectors item Sup Forums ? Did you buy one to hold on to or for your entertainment pleasure
THIEF THREAD
*punches air*
Is it worth buying a PS4 just for this? Does the PS4 have any more worthwhile exclusives?
I've seen alot of shitty female characters. If you make one do it right...
What game would you like to get reimbursed?
Screen size 160x144 pixels
Persona Q2
NO, THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING, I'M IN CHARGE HERE
Dragon Ball FighterZ
FUCK me, Gerald
Name a better OTP
Which off shoot of Mario is better?
Evo 2018 Games Announced
How's that game coming along?
Which anime makes a good video game
How do we stop the death of gaming?
What did they mean by this?
His smile and optimism: gone
Poorfag here
Honestly how is this game?
What is the most criminally underrated multiplayer game of all time?
Steam Friends
What games are you looking forward to Sup Forums?
ITT: Franchises you abandoned
I really like this video game
Why don't women make their own games?
Filename thread
Game is set during WW2
Metal gear Survive
What's your opinion on the Dark Souls killer?
Let's settle this once and for all. What is the best Wrestling game of all time?
3DS info for 2018
Arino now plays PS2 games
Choose Hard difficulty because everyone else is playing on it
THAT KIND OF THREAD
Post your favourite game tropes
Kirby
Why is my Grandpa so CUTE?
Outbreak gameplay revealed. What does Sup Forums think of the Siege zombie mode?
ITT: Criminally underrated games
What went wrong ?
Dragon quest 11
Comfy sunday thread
Moocha Shaka Paka
Kinda crappy games you love
Is this the modern Morrowind?
Play Overwatch
Anyone wanna play some OpenRCT2 multiplayer?
When did it become acceptable?
Why is it doing so well?
Hey Sup Forums , rate my transmog
Idiots cry for years that every game is the same thing
Is it too late to buy 3ds?
This guy has to be the dumbest, most dense protagonist of all time. Chapter 7 makes him seem clinically retarded
As a proud Ubisoft employee, I am asking You to buy our Father Edition! We have worked extremely hard on this...
What are your expectations of them in 2018?
Post the scariest thing you can think of from a non-horror game
Why don't we try something new for a change: Post deal closers ITT
This is a Mortal Kombat character in 2018
Game's art style gets worse as the series progresses
Holy fuck! this game has been amazing so far
That D-Pad
What need does an adult have for portable gaming?
Dead Space is now 10 years old, did it age well?
APOLOGIZE. DARK SOULS REMASTERED IS BEING DEVELOPED IN HOUSE
Danganronpa
Why is this game so enjoyable?
Diversity in gaming
WHY DON'T WE HAVE OPEN WORLD GAME LIKE ONE PIECE, DRAGONBALL AND POKEMON...
It's time to discuss the greatest RPG ever made
What went so Right?
Who /playoneasy/ here? Especially for the first time through
How long does Sup Forums stays up all night just to play videogames?
Get gifted scary game
ITT:use 10 words max to trigger everybody
YLYL: Sup Forums edition
Soy boy general /sbg/
Valkyria Chronicles 4
How much money have you spent in video games in your lifetime so far?
This came out
Remember when GDQ was fun?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOP ITTTTTTTTTTT
What are some shitty jrpgs?
Post your most recent regretted purchase
TWO-THOUSAND YEARS FROM NOW, ANCIENT HISTORIANS WILL STUDY US AS ANCIENT HUMANS. THIS IS WHAT I WANT THEM TO STUDY:
Could Nintendo put out a new Punch Out in this climate, or would it be seen as 'problematic'?
What went so right?
Koikatsu thread
Why is she so perfect?
Spec thread
Protagonist gets a redesign in one of the sequels
GOD OTS ALREADY 2018 GOD PLEASE MAKE IT STOP I WISH IT WAS 2007 AGAIN FUCK
OH NO NO NO NO NO
What are some franchises with their own Lillie-like shill character?
Sup Forumsermin Sup Forumseekend
Trails of Cold Steel 2 PC
This one quest was more immersive than anything in Skyrim
Game.exe has crashed
Co-worker start talking about video games
What am I in for?
New Remedy game coming 2019
Sup Forumsidya Draw Thread
Play this
Chocobo lender got captured in besieged
Why do they make good games
Is Chrono Trigger a perfect game?
Switch Thread
Can you actually believe it Sup Forums? KH 3 is releasing this year. Shit feels unreal...
This towns finnish
Do you believe that video games "peaked" when you were twelve?
Well?
FighterZ
Does Kingdom Come makes true RPG-revolution?
What games have the best melee combat?
Mmo features multiple races
How do you decide which platform to get your vidya on if you own most?
What do you want to see in it?
How is this? Thinking of picking it up
DLC (for anything besides expansion equivalents)
Wtf this kills the PCVR
When will this shitty genre die?
Incoming costume pack dlc
Life as an NPC is tough
Videogames will never be art
Why aren't you replaying Demon Souls / Dark Souls / Dark Souls 2 / Dark Souls 3 / Bloodborne right fucking now?
Confess your Fire Emblem sins, child
Beginner's guide to fighting games
So how do you feel about romances in vidya...
Which one should i get?
Does Sup Forums still like persona 4?
So with Tropical Freeze coming to Switch, what are the chances of a new Donkey Kong Country game on the horizon?
PoE sucks, look at this review shitting all over it!
I think Nier Automata has a great soundtrack
This is how a game should be
Scp: secret laboratory
How hard would NuWorld shitters get their shit kicked in by Glavenus?
PC release of Puyo Puyo Tetris has official support for dual audio
Do you let your bugbros watch you play videogames, Sup Forums?
Anyone else an ultimate anti-normie like me and listens mostly to video game music?
Just recently made a Steam account, It sucks dick so far
This game is as fun as it is buggy
Informative looking vidya video
Webm thread
Play pic related blind
He listens to vidya soundtracks unironically
Have you ever played a game on easy mode?
PEEBEE?
So, what's the Sup Forumserdict?
Squall is Dead
Hey Sup Forumsros. Polyball dev here...
Endless spess
Japs are shitposting/criticizing Nintendo for bullying a small mobile game company with a lawsuit
A tagalong even worse than trucy
Post your favorite game developer
Sup ForumsGAs 2017 - Thanks for voting/watching
What are the most essential games for the DS and 3DS?
/Xbro/ thread
Let's face it...
What are your top 3 games of last 10 years?
How good is the Legacy of Goku series?
DAILY REMINDER THAT NINTENDO SWITCH HAS THE BEST VERSION OF SEIKEN DENSETSU 2
Hollow Knight
How can you fuck up a game so badly? This could have been a system seller. This could have been the xbox's CSGO...
Kingdom Come: Deliverance has bad gra
Don't let horses take fall damage, they refuse to run, then drop dead after a few minutes
Why is there such a huge gap between critical and fan consensus of this game?
What is the last PS2 game you played Sup Forums?
Decide to get a game based off Sup Forums hype for once, love me some medieval shit
What's the most disturbing amount of bots you've ever witnessed in an online game?
Ps4 and switch
What are some games that are just so goddamn shit you cant believe they were made?
Game has no/next to no kb&m support
Guilty Gear Creator Says To Expect The Next Game To Be Less Complicated With Reduced Systems
How the fuck can anyone defend this leveling
We won
Is there any reason to NOT pirate digital games (such as Steam games)?
What was his endgame?
Undertale is hot
This actress has been cast to play Lara Croft in the next Tomb Raider movie. What does Sup Forums think of her?
His Switch doesn't run Chromium on KDE
Thoughts
*charges you 60 dollars for a buggy demo*
Get fit
Why are japanese games not so popular in eastern and most of central Europe?
Risk of Rain Thread
New FF7 remake trailer when?
What does Sup Forums think about video game machinima - making movies and tv stuff in video games
Ratchet and Clank thread? What's next for this series after the movie remake?
Vermintide 2 Closed Test
Monster Hunter is mainstream in the west now
Name a better FF girl. I'll wait
Name a better female character
Really puts things into perspective
If a game has "aged badly", it wasn't good in the first place
Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire
Does piracy hurt console software sales?
Give me one argument against games having an easy mode. You know you can't...
Does there exist a game, where your gender matters and changes the game to fit your gender choice?
What games have battle music that never gets old?
ITT games with transformations
Just got this in the Steam sale
Western drawn porn
What is it with this man and swamps?
Video games are starting to influence our culture more and more. We've seen successful movie adaptations...
So Sup Forums help me out i am undecided
What are the odds of a third hardware revision, this time with a UHD player?
ESTO ES EL FIN, JIREN!
Left: Europe
ITT: Games with outstanding movement mechanics
Is this real life?
Dude i5 and 8gb ram is completely fine if all you do is game
Subnautica thread
Female characters have more INT and less STR by default
/bst/ - Battlestation Thread
REPORT: BLOODBORNE IS COMING TO NINTENDO SWITCH
How does Skyrim VR balance the weapon types now that they all have the same speed?
*Releases another shit game that no one buys*
Why do younger people hate single player games all of a sudden?
Splatfest results
Who else got plants at their battlestations?
If your videogame doesn't let you fly a spaceshipship over 10km long then it's shit
How did your parents jerk off to this?
Tfw 4.05 PS4 and never have to pay for a game on it again
T E N Y E A R S
Metal Gear Survive
PUBG but good
He killed millions
Best girl wears glasses
Persona 5 and feeling of emptiness
This has to be the worst dlc in the existence
This is what the ideal GOTY awards look like
Tfw we will never get a good Harry Potter game
NOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOO NO!!! NO!!!!!! THIS CANT BE HAPPENING SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MINE
The remake is almost superior in every way except art
Last threads
New Social Fap Thread
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Quads in thread: I push the lever, cut off my dick
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This my cat Mousey say something nice
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Be me 18 y/o Turk living in Germany
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What loli part is best loli part?
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Op here of kristin ama
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New FB IG VSCO
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It's Caturday, post cats
Miscellaneous
Got a girl solidly passed out on my couch in my apartment, wat should I do to her anons?
Miscellaneous
I love being a stripper. I make $300+ a day (after tip out), I can come to work and leave whenever I please...
Miscellaneous
Rekt. Lets do it
Miscellaneous
Wwyd thread be brutal as you want
Miscellaneous
Whats the best way to insult a german
Miscellaneous
YLYL. :D
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Does the busdriver notice if i steal
Miscellaneous
FB/IG/VSCO 4
Miscellaneous
COMPUTER SCIENCE MAJOR???? WHICH ONE
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Hot for teacher thread: candids preferred or in general clasroom pics; only real teachers pls
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Texas thread. Bonus for 903
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If you were paid 200000 a year to be permanently naked- would you? You would have full immunity to any legal trouble...
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