Why is Sup Forums so scared of even discussing socialism? Is it because you know we lefties are right?

Why is Sup Forums so scared of even discussing socialism? Is it because you know we lefties are right?

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>Karl marx pepe
>Please don't steal
It's not theft, it's redistribution, goy.

Kek 9/11 p0st
Gommunism is a meme

sage

Left = MURDER

Because we're tired of explaining to you braindead faggots that communism doesn't fucking work

Because we are not the ones who are mentally ill.

>there are people on Sup Forums RIGHT NOW who think the solution to our problems is to be more like Venezuela

Because, it makes terrible memes (as you've shown already). Also,

This

You have the floor pinko. Go ahead and convince us.

We discuss socialism all the time, but nice try, retard.

And it barely merits discussion, just look at Venezuela and Sweden. It's a shirt ideology unless you've attained cultural homogeneity, which is impossible if (((they))) are involved

At least pretend you're not a Plebbitor

Because it's about as useful as discussing the ideas, historical figures, and esoteric subtleties of Wicca.

Remember to sage and report all these slide threads. Also give /leftypol/ a visit and tell those commies to go fuck themselves.

Saw this on reddit earlier today. I can't believe they're so willing to get cucked by the system.

Also check'd

Can't really expect 12 year olds to understand how their parents have to pay for these people who "might be abusing the system".

Pol consists of alienated and entitled anons who are more concerned with using pol as an avenue to vent their anti social attitudes which have no place in modern society (maybe this has chamged since trump, see why they supported a shitposting president). They are not afraid of socialism, they just have no interest in social or civic policies and instead want to talk about how based trumps latest nonsense tirade on w/e minority of the week it is or indulge in the fantasy of denigrating groups (usually based on race) to a status that is even below their lowly and sad basement dwelling virgin identity

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>a starbucks drink could easily count as a meal because calories
The one below the main post is in even more denial. Yeah, try drinking something and telling me you feel full. Calories don't magically make you feel full; it's a multitude of factors. I could eat 5 carrots and feel more full than after a bowl of ice cream.

These people are willing to deny reality to further their agendas.

How can lefties be right when they're left?

>socialism
>posts karl marx

>hurrr durrr all socialism is communism!
>If you don't support my nazi ideals you're a communist, enough though nazism is also a form of totalitarian socialism!

Who the fuck is Karl Marx. He sounds like a faggot who failed and then died.

Why don't you socialists just tax the shit out of each other, and leave the rest of us the fuck alone? Why are those who like socialism ALWAYS in a position to benefit, for sitting on their lazy asses? Socialism is nothing more than organized theft from the productive members of society to benefit society's least productive people.

11/10 kek

It's boring

Implying capitalism is a perfect system and doesn't take advantage of anyone

a welfare state that is tough but fair i dont mind

the NHS if it wasnt being used to pay for tranny ops and nose jobs is fine

but the problem with socialism is it doesnt know when to stop growing and it ALWAYS turns into a fucking nanny state that policies words and actions

>free market libertardians hate jews
is this one of those "Sup Forums is literally three people" memes?

Bad example desu. Cuba's situation can largely be explained by the US's embargo against them. Should have picked something like Laos.

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Back to /r/socialism you fat cunt

>"why is pol scared of discussing socialism?"
It's not. Your mind just came up with that idea to compensate for the fact that every time lefties try to come on here and spout their retarded garbage they (unsurprisingly) get their asses handed to them.
Value is subjective.
You don't deserve other people's money just because you exist.
Inequality is the law of nature and to claim otherwise is delusional.

Oh no... of course not!

Sup Forums is a very diverse board with tons of opinions and there is no bias or shared views at all!

I was about to take the bait but then I saw your flag

Fuck off back to plebbit.

Reminder we're being raided pic related

I've actually never done much research into Laos, which I will soon, but surely Cuba could be a prosperous nation despite the embargo if it were capitalist rather than communist?

nice strawman you communist faggot!

Let me explain it to you more slowly:
most people on Sup Forums who hate jews are fascists, and fascists are against the free market.
The meme you posted depicts a free-market loving antisemite, a very small minority among Sup Forums posters.

well done leaf

Don't be silly. Most of these retard believe Nazi germany was a capitalist system.

Yea, cause what you create is a world.
Where every dumbfuck gets rewarded the same way as the talented hard worker.

Don't you think he will stop giving a fuck and be a lardass too.

Reason why Russia's production and agriculture got to a crippling halt with great food/product shortages.

>Marxist not wanting others to take his stuff
The ironing.

Not sure dude. I'm no economist, but they're an island nation and the closest (and largest) economy is the United States. It would kind of fuck them over if they didn't trade. They need to have a lot of goods imported, and longer maritime travel distances means higher cost.

To me, Cuba always seemed like the nation that was closest to doing communism correctly. There's not rampant corruption in the leadership, so I think they'd have actually been okay had they been able to trade with us all this time. Surely not as well of as a capitalist nation, but pretty well off I would think.

>capitalism is a meritocracy
kek

>implying the ennemies of the people didn't deserve it

True, most communists are too retarded to tell the difference between free market capitalism and fascism.
Bless them.

I have not seen one actual argument in these leftypol threads.

Unless by getting our ass handed to us, you mean constantly spamming threads with "HURR GO BACK TO PLEBBIT FAGGOTS"

prime examples

You are implying that one system is perfect.

Fuck off back to your avocado on toast you fucking faggot

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Watch as this gets bumped up with over 200 replies

The last get already settled it,

Fuck leftists

stolen

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>Cuba's situation can largely be explained by the US's embargo against them.

The embargo that no other country (including first world nations) took part in? Was Cuba's economy so shit that it was dependent on the US and couldn't, after 60 years, shift to trade with Mexico, Canada, Columbia, Venezuela and others?

This argument only compounds the claim.

TAKE THE TRUTH YOU SON OF A BITCH

too bad those weren't the enemies, those were the people

No. Most of the people who call themselves nazis on this board believe germany was a capitalist system, because of them are american and want to believe their ideals and current way of life are somehow compatible with nazism.

Also... you're trying to call people idiots while saying all socialism is capitalism. Are Canada or the UK communist countries?

Reddit commies are actually doing a raid though, fucking leaf

>unironically being a Marxist in 2016

No one really seems to talk deeply about politics here. It just seems like a politically themed version of Sup Forums.

And communism is?
Capitalism is at least more self correcting.
It doesn't need some retarded bureaucrat and does the job better.

Come back with a better system then that commie bullshit.
And ill listen.

So? Why don't you confront them with actual arguments? Convince them that your ideology is superior?

Make a single argument and I'll gladly refute it. Your thread is fucking stupider than you are. You have no point, you make a baseless accusation AS THE PREMISE OF YOUR ENTIRE THREAD. You should be banned from this site for 3 months while you think about what you've done you cheetos dust covered neckbeard faggot.

No, but we need laws to restrict the amorality of the profit motive.

>I have not seen one actual argument in these leftypol threads.

Well to be fair, it's on the OP to actually make an argument first. Can't do that, then don't expect any response then being told to go back under the rock you crawled out from under.

>Commie retards always look like jackasses when debating people who know what they are talking about
>Create safe spaces all over the internet
>Come to Sup Forums
>Get BTFO
>Leave
>There are almost no commies here
>OMFG WHY ARE YOU SCARED OF US??? :D

Communists don't deserve to be treated as people

Eh, more due to race than anything.

Sorry Pepe Marx. The abolition of private property is essential. There can simply be no stealing under communism.

Socialism works until you run out of other peoples money.

>Austria btfo by Peru
Really makes you think

I stole it just to put it in the recycle bin and delete it, feel good mang

GOMMIES BTFO

Capitalism works until you run out of other peoples money.

Really gets the noggin joggin.

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fuck yeah lets discuss some spooks ayy

Are you saying that Western Europeans / anglos are too smart for communism and only the peasant slavs and 80 iq browns fall for it?

Really makes you think

>Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish 80-85%
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>Winston Churchill exposes forces behind Communism
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The Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party:

Krylenko Russian
Lounatcharski Russian
Ulyanov (Lenin) JEW
Bronstein (Trotsky) JEW
Apfelbaum (Zinovief) JEW
Lourie (Larine) JEW
Ouritski JEW
Volodarski JEW
Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) JEW
Smidovitch JEW
Sverdlof (Yankel) JEW
Nakhamkes (Steklof) JEW

The Council of the People’s Commissars:

Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian
Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian
Agriculture Protian Armenian
Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian
Ulyanov (Lenin) JEW
Economic Council Lourie (Larine) JEW
Food Schlichter JEW
Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) JEW
State Control Lander JEW
State Lands Kauffman JEW
Works V. Schmidt JEW
Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) JEWess
Religions Spitzberg JEW
Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) JEW
Hygiene Anvelt JEW
Finance Isidore Goukovski JEW
Press Volodarski JEW
Elections Ouritski JEW
Justice I. Steinberg JEW
Refugees Fenigstein JEW
Refugees (assist.) Savitch JEW
Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski JEW

Yeah I agree that the embargo really fucked them over, but the fact that virtually no country has prospered with communism leads me to blame the system rather than the circumstances.

I'm working on my major in economics, and I'm reluctant to advocate for a communist system, but these discussions tend to be as much philosophical as much as they are economic.

In my opinion, communism can work effectively only if the country in question has access to considerable natural resources. Effectively, a communist state would be effective only if the state is 'subsidized' by a natural endowment, like Saudi Arabia.

Maybe, but at least Sup Forums accepted that all people are not equal. Do you think the australian abos could've created western civilization had it not been for guns, germs and steel? If so, your opinion is invalid here. Marxism is forcing people to be equal when they're not. Affrimative action, civil rights "intimidation" laws, these are modern cultural expressions of communist faux-equality bullshit.

It was well regulated market.
It was still free in a sense you could invest found new companies etc.
But workers rights like wage, pension, benefits where heavily regulated.

Lol

>tu quoque

We haven't tried the right type of Communism yet. Once we do Communism the right way, it'll be perfect.

> Commies kill everyone
> perfection reigns for a thousand years for cockroaches and dogs

yeah, that's why american "liberal intellectual elites" are all cultural marxists, right?

Rednecks are embarrassed to admit that they themselves might possibly be victims of circumstances beyond their control. They think it's a sign of weakness to admit that they are somehow different than the wealthy.

They're just deluded in a different way than SJW's and neo-lib fags. Both are useful idiots for the ruling class.

>you understand communism
>you are benevolent towards the people
>you want to implement communism

You can only choose 2 of these.

cultural marxism /= communism in any way.

Nice attempt at a raid OP is a faggot

Well, we DO tell our teachers to call our kids "Comrade" now, instead of "boy" or "girl" so....

Yeah, kinda.

Communist governments are highly prone to becoming despotic autocracies. Dictatorship of the proletariat means nothing as the proletariat is too numerous and disjointed to have any real say. Someone inevitably ends up making decisions on behalf of the proletariat, and then 'on behalf' of the proletariat. You get the same ruling class that has always inevitably developed in human society, only without checks and balances because most of the society is happily sharing the delusion that the ruling class doesn't exist. It becomes impossible to ignore this division after a few decades, and then the whole thing comes tumbling down.

I downloaded your Pepe.

That'sthejoke.jpg

I tend to believe that even disadvantaged races could be more prosperous that they are if they lived in freer economic situations; communism is the 'social opiate' (I forget the original source of that statement) that struggling societies are eager to adapt as a method of avoiding personal accountability. I'm not a molymeme-tier libertarian, but I am reluctant to say that these people's problems are not a result of their inability to act freely.

Because we're not Jewish. And socialism doesn't work. It's been tried. It's been fun, but we're just not Yiddish.

Don't forget to leave a sage on your way out, fellas.

>entire ideology revolves around liberating the working class
>every implementation of "the workers system" fails and turns country into authoritarian shit hole that doesn't help the working class
"Marxists seemingly pay no attention to history or common sense. Time and time again, we have seen governments that began as benevolent states grow and expand, transforming into an enormous octopus-like deity that eventually strangles the free will and freedom of the populace. Even if the present government is what you see as 'virtuous,' 'caring,' or whatever positive adjectives you choose to describe it with, there is always a chance, if it not totally a guarantee, for a malicious or simply horrendous leader to appear and lead the country along a false path or take advantage of their position of power. We saw this in the Soviet Union; among other treacherous Soviet leaders, Joseph Stalin in particular used the Soviet state, a government that was originally created to be the savior and champion of the common people, as a personal hammer of righteousness against them, crushing any dissent, establishing a secret police force, and outright erasing people and events that he found unpleasant from history. In a tragic twist of irony, a nation established to protect the rights of the working class mutated into one of the most totalitarian and cruel states to ever oppress the liberties of man, almost from the very start of its existence." - Some dood I can't remember the name of
Research Iron Law of Oligarchy

Copying is not stealing since you still have your copy.

it's just the western post soviet version of it.
at it's root it has the same ideas, they are simply expressed differently.
also, it is just as easy to see from the very beginning why it's a horribly stupid idea that will fail greatly.
Why are they falling for it?

>saying all socialism is capitalism
?????????????
when did I say this

maybe you meant
>saying all socialism is communism
I didn't say that either

awww, what would be of communists without strawmen to fight with?

Socialism was ahead of it's time. The people simply didn't have the technology and oversight to audit corruption in the government.

We can now safely transition into socialism without repeating the past mistakes that have been made

How?

Not an argument.
>muh not REAL socialism!!!!
It's been fun, but your childish ideology simply has never, and will never work.

Honest question, what the fuck happened to leftists to go advocated to bear arms?

Fuck that. Constitutional monarchy 1000%.