So according to most reputable sources and simple arithmetic, even if Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan changed to Hillary, Donald Trump would still be the president just because of the sheer magnitude of his win, hence there hasn't been too much of a backlash from the Republican establishment nor too much support from the Democratic establishment (though supporters on both sides have been vocal, though misled.)
So the question becomes what is the Green Party's motive for such an expensive recount to 'verify the integrity of our voting system'. This baffled me until I read this on CNN:
>Jill Stein's Thanksgiving fundraising blitz passed $5 million. The money is well beyond the $2 million mark the Green Party initially set, and Wisconsin party officials said that ANY ADDITIONAL MONEY NOT USED FOR THE RECOUNT WOULD BE USED TO TRAIN GREEN PARTY CANDIDATES FOR LOCAL OFFICE. The goal as of Friday was to raise $7 million. (Source below)
So in other words the Green Party is running out of money, so they're using this opportunity to con people out of their money with a false promise of a chance to change the outcome of the election.
This is a cashgrab and a powergrab by the Green Party, so they (1) get funds and (2) have a chance to create a more favorable condition for them in future elections because the Electoral College system heavily favors the two major parties, hence the emphasis on examining the "integrity of our voting system".
I can't say it's completely a bad thing, more competition means better and harder work from the Republican party and the Democrats but wow is this some 5D chess from Stein. This would also suggest that she isn't really working for or with anyone.
Lastly it also explains why both establishments are more or less apathetic about this whole thing, though annoyed.
Still I'm glad it's happening to watch any remnant of hope from Hillshills be utterly smashed
Daniel Myers
Good. The success of the Green Party further fragments the left voter base.
Dominic Brooks
>mfw bernie cucks give their post-election life savings to jill stein and get scammed again
Nathaniel Cook
>Use the rest of the money to train candidates >literally the get 99999999 coming true >
Based jew stein
Adrian Moore
Good. A fool and his money are soon parted, especially when Jews are involved
David Davis
NO! SHE CANNOT WIN
Isaac Taylor
hmm
Ian Nguyen
Does the name (((STEIN))) not tell you anything???
Brayden Wood
wait just one fucking minute
you're telling me that a woman named stein is swindling people out of money?
are you fucking kidding me?!
Joseph Peterson
Jewess Jill Stein ripping off cucked liberals. >tfw trying hard to give a fuck >Nope can't do it.
Also don't be surprised to see petitions start appearing to change the electoral college voting system to popular vote.
Isaac Gutierrez
lol i had a feeling she was bernie 2.0
hopefully the green party syphons votes from the democrats and they never win another election ever again
Benjamin Russell
i've always know jews to be honest and trustworthy people
Jordan Johnson
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Joseph Jackson
thank god most states are red and will not ratify that amendment
Jeremiah Taylor
Yeah we all knew this.
Now heres the real problem.
All those little cucked liberals are soon going to realize they've been scammed about 10 times in this election alone out of a lot of money.
As the bottom class gets scammed more and more, they become increasingly irrational.
If this continues and trump doesn't pull a job miracle out of his ass somehow then most of the country will go full socialist by 2020.
Christopher Morris
Because if they find voter "fraud", someone is responsible for said fraud. They will blame trump and impeach him.
Mason Kelly
>Not wanting a literal babe as president
Angel Wright
trumps presidency will put the final nail in the coffin of the dying religious cult known as 'global warming'.
they need to raise funds to try to combat this, but they will fail. global warming is finally dead.
Matthew Wood
Idiot.
That's 46 votes. Trump has 306. 270 is needed. Do math.
Still incredibly unlikely they all flip, but you're still an idiot.
Dylan Lewis
Make America great again.
Noah Perry
In her prime, she was 7/10 at best.
Christian Parker
such a sassy look...like she needs a spanking
Juan Walker
Jews are wonderful when they work like this
Isaiah Smith
As long as it's profitable.
Connor Rogers
Voldemort?
Wyatt Lee
Anyone got Stein nudes? Failing that, Shadman drawings of Stein?
Evan Bailey
You don't believe the years of scientific data that show, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the Earth's average temperature has been increasing? Even Trump believes the Earth is warming.
Austin Morgan
they will find massive fraud committed by the dnc
Henry Gray
This was her in the 80's
Ayden Reed
>with jews you lose.
Kayden Nguyen
I wouldn't say its a 5D chess move as much as it is, as you implied, a desperation move. This election was so very different from others in how it was run and the sort of zeitgeist it both came from and created. If there was ever an election where (at least to the untrained eye) there would be a significant amount of third party votes, this was supposed to be it, and yet it was still minuscule. Third parties probably spent more money this year anticipating they'd have a real shot at some sort of recognition only to fall flat, so they're scrambling.
I agree and one of the biggest things I hate about our elections and government in general is the two party system, I would much better like if there were additional options that could better play to certain interests of certain regions, but alas, the machine is just too damn big.
Isaac Lee
look at the way she flips her head back so hot
Andrew Butler
>Huge nose >Voldemort You must be a Mexican intelectual
Aaron Miller
This is a good thing. Anyone donating to this deserves to be ripped off. Stein is doing God's work by separating mooks from their money.
Logan Howard
>implying Voldemort wasn't a jew.
Charles Scott
i think youre 100% correct
Jordan Brown
>Cursed by black magic >Loses his nose, unable to sniff out shekels anymore You might be onto something, Paco...
Aaron Collins
Kek wills it
Aaron Richardson
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Asher King
No shit.
Daniel Ortiz
""""stein"""
nothing to see here, move along.
Samuel Davis
This. If they all flip, Clinton has the presidency.
Jonathan Jenkins
>even if Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan changed to Hillary, Donald Trump would still be the president just because of the sheer magnitude of his win He lost the popular vote and would lose the electoral too
Hunter Rodriguez
>sheer magnitude of his win
What the fuck does that even mean? If those states flip their electoral votes she wins. Don't teach me American civics from Denmark.
Elijah Robinson
"hurrr but why did they call it climate change sometimes" is likely his response, even though the term exists because of tards like him that believe the Earth isn't getting warmer because their specific hick town still has winter
Jack Roberts
> Bernie cucks > savings They probably took out a loan for that
Nathaniel Kelly
that's not her you ass clown
Liam Allen
The recount fundraising received steady bumps of 150.000$. Guess whose money was that?
Joshua Green
This is great. The more powerful the Green party becomes, the less votes for the demos. Give them a few bucks
Brayden King
There will be no angry scammed Green Party supporters because the big chunk of the fundraising was paid by Soros!
William Bell
He won Wisconsin and Pennsylvania by more than 1%. For there to be enough to change that there would have to be massive voter fraud...the type of which everyone laughed at Trump during the lead up to the election saying that simply wasn't the case.
Either way, he could lose a recount in MI & WI and still win.
his intellectualism must be hitting levels that wasn't even possible before
Joshua Russell
>This is a cashgrab and a powergrab by the Green Party, so they (1) get funds and (2) have a chance to create a more favorable condition for them in future elections because the Electoral College system heavily favors the two major parties, hence the emphasis on examining the "integrity of our voting system".
they dont have any chance at getting the voting system changed. neither dems nor reps are interested in opening up the business to third party competition.
only reason (((stein))) is doing this stuff is because it gets her some money and attention.
Isaac Evans
>religious cult
Yet only Christfags and fossil fuel shills are opposing it.
kys faggot
Zachary Cook
If the Green Party were to become big, it would only serve to fracture the left. This is good for us
Connor Torres
So maybe Jeb still has a chance
Robert Collins
We should be encouraging and supporting any effort to split the left's vote.
Benjamin Clark
You do know that Greens are nanny state socialists of the highest order that love immigrants?
They're Dems +99999999999
You don't want them anywhere in power. They're Jew nation wreckers.
Elijah Wood
You're correct and I phrased it badly, what I meant was >60,000+ advance in Pennsylvania, >10,000+ Michigan, >20,000 Wisconsin.
Getting new figures all of a sudden to flip all those would be highly suspect if possible, especially considering Michigan only does paper ballots and they literally finished the first count just hours ago. Ergo, no 10 points = no 46 = Trump lands at 270 anyway.
Everyone knows this and getting anyone else the election doesn't seem like a realistic motive of the Green Party desu therefore it is not unreasonable to speculate about their real motives.
Ryder Myers
Welcome to two days ago. Next you need to figure out all the donations are coming from Hillary supporters. so Sup Forums is generally pretty impressed will Jill's trolling.
Now stop talking about it so the suckers don't wise up.
Jaxon Bennett
>even if Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan changed to Hillary, Donald Trump would still be the president just because of the sheer magnitude of his win,
He'd need one of the states to stay his. It doesn't matter which one.
Cooper Murphy
>"The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty we can’t.”
Gabriel Foster
>So the question becomes what is the Green Party's motive for such an expensive recount to 'verify the integrity of our voting system
real question is how did a green party candidate raise $5m in 5 hours for the recounts?
Dylan Robinson
Their motives seem to be very meta. They want to actually instill fear, uncertainty and doubt (Trump won, but wait, there is a recount, did he win, are we still ahead?) into us, so that we cannot use meme magic to the full extent. We must instead return to our shitposting about the bright future of America under God Emperor Donald Trump rule.
Nathaniel Walker
>petitions start appearing to change the electoral college voting system to popular vote. Nah, they'll probably make petitions to have a nation wide ranked choice voting system like the one that Maine voted for the state + parliament level
Isaiah Brooks
The Democrats are already about as BTFO as possible
The Republicans are 1 (ONE) state house majority away from reaching amendment majority
They decided to pander to every minority no matter how small whilst shunning the working man and thus are left only with the northeast and California (Hillary stole NH btw so their strangle hold may be ending there and in ME)
Makes me laugh so hard because this was supposed to be the election that ushered in 50 years of Democrat control
Henry Garcia
Also I would like to remind you that there are published papers on Sup Forums and meme magic already.
Angel Johnson
I'm okay with this,
We need to meme the green party so the left becomes heavily divided
Connor Powell
The Greens are such nutcases that I believe Stein when she says it's just about making sure we have an honest voting system
Hudson Nelson
>The Republicans are 1 (ONE) state house majority away from reaching amendment majority
when are the next state elections that could get them past this point?
William Bennett
no. they are doing this to disrupt the electoral voting. states can be nullified if they don't vote in time
this is george soros doing
Carter Rivera
No he wouldn't
Trump is sitting at 306 now MI PA and WI make up 46 combined Even if they all flipped Trump would still have 270 but it's all moot anyway because they won't be able to finish the recount by the Safe Harbor deadline on December 12
Colton Cooper
2 years I think
Caleb Evans
306 - 46 = 260
Brody Reed
2 years
Camden Carter
John Bonifaz is an attorney from the National Voting Rights Institute. The NVRI was formed with Bonifaz and George Soros.
Bonifaz is the attorney pushing for the recount.
2 of the states referenced use vulnerable Diebold voting machines.
What if, the entire time these systems have been running malicious software to show a Trump 'win' - then when someone goes back to verify they will show other numbers to make it look like Trump cheated. (Or the machines are stored in warehouses and they've been busy switching/rewriting storage cards) the last few weeks.
Hillary has been playing "I'm a normal innocent woman" the last few weeks with staged photo ops.
I think this is a shill thread. I think they're actively stealing the election.
Caleb Parker
Climate change, yes. However man made climate change, no.
Nathan Martin
NOPE. 6 electors have already flipped their vote to Hillary.
Gabriel White
call me on the CELL PHONE when it's six million.
Cameron Morris
>So according to most reputable sources and simple arithmetic, even if Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan changed to Hillary, Donald Trump would still be the president just because of the sheer magnitude of his win
Wut
He would literally lose if that were the case. Hillary Clinton would have more electoral votes. Is this some meme I don't know about?
Not saying that she did win those, but if she had won those three states, she would have literally won the election.
Noah Edwards
NO! NO YOU RETARDED MONKIES!
OP IS A CTR HILL SHILL!
they are trying to calm you to not look deeper. George Soros bot funded the recount for hillary. And then promised Jill she would get money in exchange of asking for the recount to keep Hillary out of it since if she does and fails then hillary is going to prison.
THIS IS 100% a power move to negate those states electorals votes and push them back. There's no way they can count in time.
not only that 5000 votes were just nullified for trump in Wisconsin. This is it. The fucking fix is in.
If you live in Wisconsin you need to volunteer to count ballots right now! Hillary supporters will register. now it's your turn!! Register to volunteer or hillary supporters will hide trump votes. GUYS seriously wake the fuck up and stay woke
stop playing checkers in a 4D chess world
Nathan Walker
Gilf Stein knows hillary stole her votes getting the democrats to pay for the recount to prove it is a stroke of fucking genius >from a woman who thinks chemtrails are real
if they prove voter fraud in a few states, that may snowball and force more recounts and the green party "may" break that 5% number in the general to get federal funding next election cycle
Or conversely she just steals all their money
Win Win for america and the green party
Jayden Kelly
lol poor liberals, their first lord and savior, Bernie robbed them and now Jill Stein is. Holy fuck these jews know how to profit off of elections.
Jeremiah Wright
No you idiot, those are Democrat electors from Colorado and Washington trying to get Republican electors to flip their votes no one is flipping their vote from trump
Alexander Gonzalez
2018 and then 2020
every 2 years. This is the largest Republican majority since the American period called "Reconstruction" following the US Civil War when Republicans BTFO the Democrats in civil war.
Jacob Hernandez
Nah, they'd want a clear election day win over shadowy recount business anytime, if they had large scale fraud power. They don't care about showing Trump as a cheater, he should have been a resound loser who'd never had a chance according to them
They don't have large scale fraud powers. But they do have small scale fraud powers of localized ballot stuffing Best to organize and monitor the recount It's open to the public
Leo Hall
>every 2 years Question Doesn't that put your politicians in a constant electoral campaign state leaving them much less time to actually work on legislation and such?
Benjamin Reyes
yes.
The very second they are elected for office they are preparing their next campaign.
Aaron Evans
Only for the House of Representatives and even then only a minority of them because most of their seats are safe but yes that is a problem with the system
William Campbell
225,000 raised between midnight and 10 am last night. seems fishy af to me.
Nathaniel Peterson
Where is your source for these 5000 ballots being nullified?
Hudson Bennett
>So in other words the Green Party is running out of money, so they're using this opportunity to con people out of their money with a false promise of a chance to change the outcome of the election. LITERALLY NOBODY'S HANDS ARE CLEAN
So what's Soros' endgame on this? Dems/HRC couldn't deliver so time for a new stooge? Seems kinda drastic to just cut the Dems out completely. They fucked up bad, but it's not like they were completely destroyed. The Greens are an insignificant 3rd party who traditionally spoil it for Dems in favor of Republicans whenever they run in the same riding. Why boost them now? Will 4-8 years even be enough time to build them into a political party that can rival Republicans?
