I fucking can't stand retarded europeans who do not see that putin is out to fuck europe

I fucking can't stand retarded europeans who do not see that putin is out to fuck europe.

he does this yet they keep sucking his dick like blind fuckwits.

tell me Sup Forums is humanity fucked? are we too retarded to continue as a species?

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Eastern Europe is absolute garbage might as well improve yourselves and join Russia.

I'll be real honest with you Slavic niggas. Join Russia. From my point of view it just always seems like neighboring Slavs are unofficial states. It's like if Kentucky, Iowa and South Carolina decided to secede it wouldn't really make much of a difference aside from those three states being far weaker in almost all aspects.

Srs.

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people like this take second place for me.

people like this being retarded americians who do not see that it is for their own good that inclusive institutions are propagated throughout the world.

and that russia is unequivocally opposed to this for it makes it harder for their elites to inrich themselves via monopolization of resources and production lines.

people like you should be culled for the greater good.

You had me going with the power words until

>inrich

Sorry, back to gulag.

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Look, I know english isn't your first language, so it's hard for you to communicate, but I can't meet you half way here, since I don't know how to speak Arabic.

You just need to move on and rejoin russia

Europe seems to be doing a good enough job fucking up their own shit. Maybe they should hand the wheel off to Russia, see where they end up? As far as I can tell Russia is the only country on Earth where being white is considered a crime.

>You just need to move on and rejoin russia

hehe I find that I am not cucked enough to want to live in an authoritarian regime, so fuck that.

It's not if you want to or not, it's if you have the power to stop them. You're better off just Re-sovieting

russia is a bigger shithole than most of europe.

and the reason we are a bigger shithole than russia is because it and our own oligarchs are pushing exclusive institutions that make it harder for our economy to flourish.

one can't even dream of starting a business without having to grease the wheels of god knows how many individuals.

too bad, its what is best for you.

again you are a retard if you do not understand: it is in your interest that ukraine(and russia for that matter) adopts inclusive economic institutions for such institutions create more wealthy individuals who are more viable consumers for US goods.

or do you not give a shit about exporting shit?

are you too retarded to understand that?

like it or not given what the US exports and produces it is what is best for you faggots.

>my weak, corrupt, fed-by-EU-cuckolds authoritarian regime is better than a strong independent charismatic authoritarian regime

you are a big fag

>too bad, its what is best for you.

no what is best for us is that our institutions become more inclusive(i.e getting rid of corruption and oligarchs)

russia is a sinking ship that we will not board.

it's still kind of depressing they broke georgia up like that. now the nice borders are fucked.

>equating the EU with russia.

why are americans so fucking retarded?

See flag
Opinion immediately discarded
>Cockhole
>I plying it's not a meme country of derussified russkies led by Skypes and created specially as a buffer state to be a pain in the ass for russia by Austrians and then later overtaken by (((neocons)))

Fuck off , you do realize your screeching for Ivan's cock all the time is just annoying to actual people,right?

Polacks hate you
Russians lament you
Germans don't even acknowledge you

>equating

why do yuropoors pretend to know english when they clearly dont

Overlord Burger telling his emergency sex-slave cockhole how things really are.
BASED

Пoчeмy ты любишь Пopoшeнкo хoхoл

Fuck off Ukraine go shill somewhere else.

But Ukraine is a worse shithole than Russia. You've even fallen behind Belarus and Albania. Ukraine= failed state

and in the mean time you fags keep sucking putins cock while taking in the rapefugees he creates.

you should immediately gas yourself faggot.

Too many Sup Forums folks put too much trust in Putin. I'm for self-determination and maintaining a balance of power. Thus, I am opposed to NATO's arrogant expansion into former Warsaw-pact countries and opposed to Russia thinking and acting like it is still the USSR. I sympathize for Ukraine, since it is being dismembered by both sides. There needs to be many population exchanges world wide so that we can have proper nation states and ultra nationalists can fuck off. Particularly, deport Russian speakers from the eastern Ukraine so they are no longer a destabilizing factor.

(((Europeans)))

>1 week offensive operation against a resisting enemy
>vs
>1 week offensive operation against a folding enemy
Iraq never recovered from the Gulf War.

cuckhole pls.

the difference is mainly in terrain, abkhazia, ossetia, georgia is mountains covered by dense forests

I know this, it is because we have fucking parasitic oligarchs in charge that spread corrupt institutions.

putin and his russiafags want this to continue.

we had enough of this shit. it is pretty simple to understand.

>Particularly, deport Russian speakers from the eastern Ukraine so they are no longer a destabilizing factor.
Just give that part back to Russia. The Donbas was never really Ukrainian.

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> putin and his russiafags want this to continue.
Russia isn't an olygarkhy though
It used to be in the 90es, and we really didn't want it to continue, hence Putin. He's not perfect, but he's better than unchecked olygarkhy

>putin was the one who gave weapons to isis
>putin isnt the one actually killing """""""""""""rebels""""""""""""""

are you trolling?

>lives in a country ran by jewish oligarch
>complains about another country ran by jewish oligarchs

ok den

and georgian war is pretty stupid example since it all started from georgian aggression.

how to fix ukraine:
1. let eastern ryssä shits separate
2. expel/assasinate jew oligarchs and claim back state control to ukrainians
3. make corruption and bribery capital punishments
4.focus on the fkin economy instead of military

Soviet minorities in ukraine cant live without cheap Russian Donbass miners. Whose wealth would they redistribute?
They are already on the edge of being bankrupt.

they want it to continue in their satalite states like what ukraine was.

this makes it easier for them to control the said satellites and it makes it easier for them to enrich themselves via various machinations.

why don't Ukraine concede Donbass to Russia on the condition of joining the EU

you're right my ukrainian friend. russia is an enemy and a threat. i'm sorry our faggot pussy government didn't attack them as soon as they invaded. we're just weak right now. we don't want to fight anymore. russia would fold if we put on the pressure, but we don't want to play these games anymore. sorry

Was maidan Russian machinachion?

Yeah, this.

Ukraine is the only olygarkhy on Russia's borders, somehow Russia didn't "do it" to anybody else, weird huh. and Ukraine was like "fuck you russia" for 20 years

By the way, you're talking like Ukraine is no longer an olygarkhy. It still is.

how can one be this fucking retarded?

he is creating refugees by indiscriminately bombing civilian infrastructure with shit like cluster munitions.

rebels for the most part are not damaging civilian infrastructure.

hell I even think that is true about isis.

Pay the fucking money you own us and than gtfo to what ever polit block you see fit, you filthy turkish rape baby.

> 99

ISIS is known for doing things like blowing up dams
Western coalition is known to strike infrastructure like brindeg and power stations, of course, oil rigs and fuel storage facilities too - all civillian infrastructure

Refugee crisis is many years old, unlike Russian intervention.Many refugees come from countries like Iraq, Afghanistan, Lybia where Russia doesn't operate at all for decades. Most of the refugees are in Turkey.

> brindeg
bridges, wow

soros

In fact mosf refugees are in Russia.
If we wont take EU as a single entity, we are leaders in this gross and per capita.

I know it still is, but the oligarchs are not subservient to russia.

I think the reason oligarchs became more prevalent in ukraine is due to the dense concentration of soviet assets.

either way one cant deny that the said oligarchs were bolstered by russia.

> one cant deny that the said oligarchs were bolstered by russia.
some were, some were against it, like Poroshenko.

> I know it still is, but the oligarchs are not subservient to russia.
some still are. It will continue, because that's how olygarkhy works. But that's irrelevant, because it's olygarkhy itself that is damaging, not any sort of Russian control

Russian control is damaging to cockhole identity. For any soviet minority noviop identity. And that is why "oligarchy" (neocolonialism) works.

europe is filled with moralfags.

the reason the eu cannot adopt a more stringent migration policy is because the said moralfags will oppose it.

if there is no war in syria(I was for a nato occupation of syria) then refugees could be thus labeled as economic migrants and thus a harsher migration policy could be adopted.

the logic there is rather simple.

Why does ukraine always start those threads and then gets butthurt about everything?

> nato occupation
Worked flawlessly in iraq, yugoslavia and afghanistan

Its part of their identity.

I know and putin is perpetuating oligarchs in ukraine which is why we need to decouple ourselves from russia.

what it did do is decrease the ambient degree of violence to a level that does not make it to the news.

this allows the moralfags to be oblivious in their ignorance.

> what is isis
> muh moralfags

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lel it's olygarkhs that's perpetuating
Putin's got nothing to do with it. Again, Ukraine is like the only olygarkhy in Eurasia, maybe in the world. Putin didn't make you like this. In fact, you were like this for a decade before Putin, and so was Russia. Nobody stopped you from fixing this problem before Russia did

holy shit

authoritarian solutions do not work, for authoritarian systems more often than not would perpetuate extractive institutions.

ultimately the only thing that would change are the faggots at the top.

You're not going to, unfortunately. Not after the election of Donald J. Trump. Putin can pretty much do what he wants with Ukraine now good bye to the east of your country at a minimum. Pray he stops at Kiev.

How is Russian control not damaging to Tatar or Chechen identity, but damaging to Ukraine? You are also saying Olygarkhy (neocolonialism) as if it was a global thing and Ukraine wasn't the only actual example of it

look up the word perpetuate you fucking faggot.

I said he is perpetuating it, not that he created it.

I am hoping that more rational/hawksh heads would sway trump, if not that then I hope he is impeached.

you fucking high as the kite nigger.

If we take out Russian money out of the neicolonial formula, there would be no chechens and tatars would be back to being white and christian. Krim tatars would be again ottomans without ability to infect true tatars with their pagan moongod shit.

All "ex"communism/socialism is an example of neocolonialism. Except of China.

Me too. Putin is messing with both our countries now.

point ifukraine was different, Putin wouldn't have had anything to "perpetuate". olygarkhyis damaging, and it isn't going away. you've been "out of Putin's hands" for almost 3 years now. what's "perpetuating" it now? what was it exactly that Putin was doing to keep Ukraine and olygarky, what wasn't being done in the 90es and isn't being done since 2014?

my point was, Putin and rise and prevalence of olygarkhy in Ukraine are almost completely unrealated, and you're not fixing your problem by hanging it all on Putin

Did you even look at your map? Georgian offensive 7th, Russian Counteroffensive 8th.

in order to occupy syria nato(most likely only the US) would have to break isises occupation.

that was implicit in what I wrote.

you're tripping man stop it

They were already on the edge of being bankrupt before the maidan, they just decided to bite the hand that fed them.

8th-16th.

> they would absolutely have to give us no visas to eu

Your country is shit, but keep sending your girls who at 25 look like 15, they fuck like mad.

ISIS originated in Iraq after NATO involvement. Did you know that?

Did you know that Putin's endgame in Syria is likely to return it to a secular semi-dictatorship, the way Middle East was before the refugee crisis, not leave it as a fragile semi-democracy with majority of voting people leaning into radical Islam which was Western endgame in all the other places that had since went full jihad/refugee?

I feel like you're missing these simple facts

Grabs crimean peninsula
Slowly surrounding key areas of nato and the united states by accidentally doing fly bys and submarines so we get use to them being so close.
Drumpf wins and now putin knows this guys character and knows he can manipulate him with his own emotions anger and court of public opinion to decimate him
probably underworld ties with eachother

Yes i see it now Putin is the one playing 9D chess

I agree with his end game in Syria just because I don't see another viable option. I don't agree with taking Crimea, this business in the East of Ukraine, or interfering in the US election.

No they where not. Their main export was metal, made with coal mined in russian regions. And they started with banning Russian language korenization-tier. Then came referendum, because we know - next step in korenization is mass-murder of Russians. Then they attacked Russian region with army. But did not managed to exterminate population quickly.
Making coal unacessible due to civil war.
No export, no eur/usd, bankruptcy.

>hanging it all on Putin
I am not hanging it all on putin, he is a major factor, but he is obviously not the only factor.

with US IMF and EU pressure some steps have indeed been taken like, for example, deregulation(I read about this just the other day).

You don't have to agree with Crimea, the only thing that matters here is opinion of Crimeans
Business in the East of Ukraine is a mess Russia doesn't agree with either, at the very least, there's plenty of blame on all sides of that conflict
As to your local KGBs saying that it was Putin hacking into the poorly-protected data systems, I really wish you guys learned to at least take with a grain of salt statements from people and organizations that are known to have deceived american public before

this
ukri whores are as cheap as a gypsies, but they are better in any regard

I have a lady boner for Putin. The man is sexy af.

> he is a major factor
yeah, except it doesn't exist now and that was non-existant when ukraine became an olygarkhy, continued to be an olygarkhy for a decade, when it had its anti-russian governments in 00s.

some "major" factor. now, he's mainly a major factor because you, as a nation, name him the only reason Ukraine is shit and refuse to solve your problem.

Nice to know you've read about deregulation, but what does it do against people that originated in an ultimately deregulated environment?

>opinion of Crimeans
The election with all the little green men guarding the polls and the exclusion of the Crimean Tatars. I member that.
>Russia doesn't agree with either
There is only trouble because of the Russian sponsored rebels. No pro-Russian rebels, no fighting, no problem.
>it was Putin hacking
Yes, really, it was. Everybody agrees on who did it but the Russians. Come on. Have some pride in your espionage services. You did it. DNC, WikiLeaks. Possibly even Snowden. Even that last one I had trouble buying until it became just so blindingly obvious.

pol keeps swallowing provokatsiya hook line and sinker as usual

>Out to fuck Europe

Oh no, what's he going to do, let millions of terrorists in and then imprison everyone who complains?

Your ideology originated Radical Islam, by definition and propagated by Sayyid Qutb, later executed, but nonetheless influential.
Russians should reap what they have sown in all the parts of the world, I know that the whole Russia is not responsible, but whatever ideologues and people who follow such should be put to death or atleast suffer harsher punishment than what they caused to everybody else around the world.

WikiLeaks said Russia had nothing to do with their information. Maybe you swallowed the "muh Russia" boogeyman that was being fed to you as a diversion everytime Clinton didn't want to deal with a situation that made her look bad. Each time a negative about her came to light: "Putin, Russia, Russia interfering etc"

The "intelligence agencies" never found definitive proof of Russia doing anything, they said it was "likely" big difference.

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>ISIS originated in Iraq after NATO involvement.
hey everyone said that pulling out of iraq was a bad idea.

fucking retarded peaceniks are retarded cunts, for they said pull out when all the sane people said it was too early; then the cunts turn and point saying shit like: "see how bad wars are, they cause shit like isis".

now I do not know if they are retarded to a degree that is incredible in its own right or just cynically conniving cunts.

>Putin's endgame in Syria is likely to return it to a secular semi-dictatorship
putins endgame is to kill the EU, he will do this by propetuating the war in syria, while fueling far left/right anti eu movements.

putin does not care about assad nor syria.

you would have to be a blind fuck not to see this.

if he did he would take the whole hearts and minds strategy in fighting in syria, instead of bombing it to oblivion.

the USes endgame in syria is to spread inclusive institutions, for such institutions are proven to bring prosperity in the long run,

the US wants this because it would then have more consumers to sell shit to.

That is a lie. Muslims were radical and barbaric long before Russia. Putin will stamp out that plague as soon as Trump is in office so the US quits cock blocking his attempts.

>WikiLeaks said
Oh well. Then I guess that fucking solves that. I can go home now content I was wrong. Phew.

And with less resistance than I would have expected.

The EU should be destroyed. The EU is destroying each respective nation.

>the US wants this because it would then have more consumers to sell shit to
This is true, but we generally it as a mutually beneficial kind of thing.

Ending the EU is not a bad thing, but if by ending it gives more power to Russia and China it is a bad thing, which I don't think it's the case.

Go to Crimea and ask around, i dont know. Read up on popular opinion, it's not necessary to believe any one poll. ANyway, your opinion stays irrelevant unless you decide to settle there. It's a great place too.
> There is only trouble because of the Russian sponsored rebels
yeah no. massive protests started way before and popular opinion was split at best 50/50
> Everybody agrees on who did it but the Russians
nah, most don't have either the data or opinion. everydoby agreeing the earth was flat won't make it so. It might be true, probably our govt hackers could do it. But you - you're still conciously CHOOSING to believe liars, and that's on you. I think it's possible, but i wouldn't pray to it like it's holy scripture the way you do