A theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes...

a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.

Define "needs".

>owned by everyone
>owned by noone
What could go wrong?

>each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.

That's capitalism right there. So tell me why I should give up my property?

Law of the jungle

Socialist speaks the truth. Its all nice and dandy when you are spreading education, food, housing and medical care, but the moment luxuries come into play system of incentives collapses and the only way to run an economy is at gunpoint.

THIS KILLS THE COMMUNIST

sounds like shit, only a economically illiterate jewish NEET or someone could have come up with a terrible idea like that.

>needs

Every time

You will never convince me to this again

it's called anarcho-capitalism, lmao

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When everyone is entitled to everything, no one is responsible for anything.
Also socialism is inherently authoritarian because you cant expect to abolish property without using violence, either with a state ir with a dictatorship of the masses, in the USSR it was the former disguised as the latter.

Your system can work once its been reached, but it probably never will be. Ive seen people throw their lives away for the cause of communism only to regret it later on in their lives. Theres still time to stop, user.

"Communism" is "inevitable" in the sense that it's only a matter of time before the productive power of machinery, linked to AI, completely satisfies the basic material needs of every human being.

>each person contributes according to their ability

And this is why socialism will never work with humans.

What a miserable existence that will be

nice list of socialist countries faggot
go learn the difference between socialism and communism and you can rejoin the discussion
first lesson: the dissolution of all governments and borders is a prerequisite of communism, so it could not possibly have been tried yet

wat is pre-agrarian society for

kys spawn of islam number of $'s

fagit

>Anarcho-syncicalism

Durruti arrives!

>those pesky other countries and cultures get in the way us implementing our globalist agenda so communism hasn't REALLY been tried yet!

no, its tried, it just fails right out the gate because no one wants your autistic leftist revolution.

A legacy of shit and failure.

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>Actually believing you need all borders gone to have communism

Communism is slavery.

Your aim is to seize the means of production, yet communists also contend that all value is derived from labor. It follows that in order to seize the means of production you must claim a monopoly over my labor. My labor is an exercise of my free will and you therefore claim a monopoly over my will.

You declare your intent to enslave me, and I claim the right to kill you. Killing a communist is a legitimate act of self defense.

Well, you can argue that following the Gramsci scheme you need to broke every traditional culture to bring the revolution, specially nations, religion and family, following a cultural revolution in arts and propaganda. The influence of Gramsci in the francfurt school its big.

>a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs.

Private ownership should never be outlawed, as that is basic freedom, however, it's nit anti-captialist to suggest that baseline needs like food, water, lodging, education, and health care are provided for. Our tax base is large enough to do that, and I calculated that a flat tax of 13% for all U.S. citizens, from top to bottom regardless of the income (which is fair to all), would play for the entire federal budget next year and crate a small budget surplus, enough to symbolically pay on the debt. But politicians from neither side of the aisle will ever agree too that, because they are ALL WEALTHY. (redpill drops)

And it's a myth that social programs bankrupt this country. ALL social programs are accounted for by less than 3% of the budget. Military accounts for 53%.

So I think we could afford to shave 1-2% extra off of the defense budget to make sure babies get fed, kids get a decent education, and their mommies and daddies receive adequate health care to stay alive to raise them, yep.

Any evolutionary programmer will tell you that nothing cripples evolution faster than UNIFORMITY in the population. It can be equally, or even more good, to be DIFFERENT as it is to be FIT. And when selection criteria take both absolute fitness AND diversity into account, is optimal evolution rate achieved.

And that benefits the species.

That's the point of evolution.

If everyone STARTS OUT on the same playing field with the same baseline human needs guaranteed to be met, then novelty and merit will be rewarded rather than socioeconomic status, and our species will evolve quicker.

you are not welcome here

leftypol plz die

>Your aim is to seize the means of production, yet communists also contend that all value is derived from labor
I don't seize THE means of production, I seize MY means of production. We seize the collective means of production. I don't want to control your labor. I want you to be able to use your labor in the way you see fit, and be compensated for its true value, something your boss cannot do.

>My labor is an exercise of my free will and you therefore claim a monopoly over my will.
I don't give a fuck how you use your labor, but I'm sure you want to be fully compensated for it. In the capitalist system, this is impossible, as the only real way the boss can increase profit per goods produced is to cut the pay of you, the worker. In a communist system, you the workers who work with you will control the means of production you work. The workers who work with me will seize the means of production we work.

You are already enslaved. Free Yourself!

*tips fedora*

Worker control over mean of production not state control
so if you work in a factory you and your comrades there control it

Value is subjective, faggot, the work you give for money is clearly less valuable to you than the money or you wouldn't agree to trade it for money. Just like the capitalist values your work more than he values the money.

Capitalism is a win-win.

>We seize the collective means of production
which includes my labor and private property

>I want you to be able to use your labor in the way you see fit, and be compensated for its true value, something your boss cannot do.
I'm self-employed. I set my own rates and hours. I set my rates high enough that equilibrium is reached between my available time(supply) and demand for my services.
>I'm sure you want to be fully compensated for it. In the capitalist system, this is impossible
The only people stealing from me is the fucking gov't taking half my income to feed Tyrone's 9 illegitimate criminal spawn.

>falls from helicopter

>Hurr how do I determine optimal mix of production output without prices in consumer and factor markets?

>be compensated for its true value

how do you know its true value?

>as the only real way the boss can increase profit per goods produced is to cut the pay of you

the boss and the worker already agrees on a set rate that both are ok with, there is no "cutting of pay".

>I tried putting one foot off of the ledge and almost fell to my death but if I put both feet off I will fly
Commie logic.