National Socialism works

National Socialism works.

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Anything besides Communism works

Lelbertarianism don't work

>only time it was ever tried it failed horribly

>now only autistic nerds worship it mostly to just be edgy

time to grow up out of your LARPing phase newfag

>failed horribly

Worked pretty well until you faggots ruined everything

>Only time it was ever tried it failed horribly.

Just because Nazi Germany lost the war doesn't mean National Socialism is a bad political Ideolgy.

>shitty bureaucratic hell hole police state ruled over by a single party dictator for life with no line of succession and a government filled with nothing but scumbag sychophants

>managed to piss off everyone else in the world and started and lost the most brutal and violent war in history

>nerds worship it because the leader hated jews and you hate jews as well

Ion was a faggot as well

Name some actual things about the Nazi government that was so great that we should replace our democratic republics with it.

Germany declared war on no one.

Yes but not well with others :^)

>shitty bureaucratic hell hole police state ruled over by a single party dictator for life with no line of succession and a government filled with nothing but scumbag sychophants
>shitty
>hell hole

I bet it was 10 times safer and better than today's America.
Enjoy your "diversityty" fag. Everytime a white american gets killed by a nigger it warms my heart. You got what you fought for.

>Thousand year reich
>barely lasted more than a decade

>Increase the birthrate.
>A law made that all workers are given break rooms.
>7 million unemployed to only 30,000 in 4 years.
>Huge work forces building roads, farms, buildings and planting trees.
>Affordable cars for all.
>Free Healthcare.
>Free education.
>No communism.
>No SJW's
>No international bankers.
>Pride (obviously)
>Everyone gives a certain amount of money (which is affordable) to give to the poor.

September 1, 1939 Germany invaded Poland which started WW2

>moving the goalpost/false equivilancy

you guys only like it because of the cool uniforms/symbols, theatrical nature, and just because they hated jews and you hate jews to.

Yeah, because Germans in Poland were being kicked out after Poland elected a Anti-Fascist leader.

Which is why Hitler won, right?
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

because you faggot rosbifs decided to attack him instead of restoring your crumbling empire
churchill was a literal kike puppet

wow, so shit we all have already pretty much

And the fixing unemployment is a meme mostly because Hitler didnt count women and other undesirables into that statistic which reduced it. Obama literally did the same thing and stopped counting a certain amount of people and then said "LOOK AT HOW MUCH i REDUCED UNEMPLOYMENT!"

Also, This is kind of ignoring the context of that specific time because Roosevelt did a similar thing of making all these jobs for people to help recover from the great depression

>conflating a foreign military invasion with internal economic failure
Germany had the fastest growing and eventually largest economy in the world during the 12 years Hitler was in power. Germany was the only western country that recovered from the great depression by its own policy and labor prior to WWII.

>oven dodger detected

it would have crumbled either way

anything with such centralized power will collapse in on itself due to power struggles

>moving the goalpost

No, it was because Poland wouldnt give up land to Germany so Germany just took it.

>actually trying to suggest Poles were ever powerful enough to bully around anyone, especially krauts

Because Poland knew that they would be protected by Britain and France.

>And the fixing unemployment is a meme mostly because Hitler didnt count women and other undesirables into that statistic which reduced it.
Because women shouldn't work, they should be housewives

Lmao

until war is mixed in

yeah, but this doesnt address the fact that the reason you gave is completely made up. Poles werent persecuting ethnic germans, and even if they were, that wasnt even close to the reason Germany invaded.

Germany tried to build a coalition against the USSR almost immediatly after taking power, and he wanted Poland to join, but Poland would have had to give up a large portion of its land and become completely dependent on Germany, so of course they rejected it. (Anti-cominternm pact)


Then later, Hitler wanted Poland to give up a portion of its land so they could connect Danzig to Germany, but Poland refused because that would be retarded for them to do, so then Hitler formed an alliance with the soviet union and invaded them.

If anyone is moving the goalposts, it's you. The Brit simply pointed out that Hitler didn't declare the war, and your best response to that is acknowledging that Germany took land back from a non-country that didn't even exist twenty years prior?

Hilarious.

The Germans invaded Czechoslovakia for the exact same reason.

>socialism

yeah, and both of these were Hitler going back on his word in the Munich Agreement which is why France and Britain declared war on him. They called a special conference to give the Sudetenland to Hitler, but he kept going after more.

The entire point of Hitlers Germany was to be completely self sufficient, and he couldnt do this without expanding and taking over other places for their resources. It was an expansionist empire that needed a military so war was inevitable.

The Nazis werent just poor little guys doing their own thing when the rest of the world ganged up on them like naziboos try to imply.

>Poland refused because that would be retarded for them to do
As opposed to getting raped in the ass by communists for the next 50 years?

It wasn't ruled by Jews. They also dealt with their homos and gypsies.

And also they didn't let neighbours abuse their people on soil that was rightfully German.

So they were supposed to use their crystal ball to see into the future? How is this an argument? It was Germanys fault that they were fucked in the ass by communist anyway

nice edgy schizophrenic ramblings

>ruled over by a single party dictator
Nope, Hitler did not manifest all power within him
>no line of succession
Hitler made a list of his successors in case he dies, everything was taken care of
>a government filled with nothing but scumbag sychophants
So basically like everywhere today, anywhere in human history
>piss off everyone else in the world
Only the big industrialists, bankers and the ones owning the media. These then produced the propaganda to fuel the hate against the Nazis
>started
Highly debateable, especially since many documents are still held secret by Britain and the US
>lost
true, but unlike the other losers of that war (french and british empire), we had the #2 economy in the world again by 1955, the very thing France and Britain wanted to prevent by two wars.
>nerds worship it because the leader hated jews and you hate jews as well
No it is liked because it preserves the races and cultures on the planet, wants to get rid of "devide and conquer" within ones society, wants to make war profit illegal, focuses on traditions and strong families with children seen as the highest gift a society can get. It is just the globalist kikes (well not all are kikes) wanting to destroy all that for their "one world government" and "one human race" shit.

>eventually largest economy in the world during the 12 years Hitler was in power.

Well even in the pic you posted you can see that the US was #1 so.... but yes, Germany was #2 (just like before WW1 and just like 10 years after WW2). I can see a pattern here why Britain needed war.

The invasion of Poland, Czechoslovakia, and Austria were not coincidental. All had significant populations of ethnic Germans who were seperated from their homeland and walled in with potentially hostile strangers by the arbitrary borders drawn by the League of Nations.

If Hitler was invading for wealth and preparing for war, as you say, would it not make more sense to invade a country such as France first? Why would he risk a preemptive declaration of war by a major power over the relatively impoverished Poland or Czechoslovakia?

>inb4 duh nahzis are stoopid

If it's constantly fueled with an angry feel of expansionnism that boosts military spending.
Then you meet the USSR in winter and you get buttfucked.

Didnt move anything friendo.

>Nope, Hitler did not manifest all power within him

Hitler was a dictator and only the nazi party was in the government, what are you talking about?

>Hitler made a list of his successors in case he dies

yeah, and it fell to complete shit when he actually needed it and there was an attempted coup by his own military.Himmler sold out, Goebbels offed himself

>So basically like everywhere today, anywhere in human history

no, they were a special kind of shit. Go read about Ribbentrop and how much everyone hated him

>Only the big industrialists, bankers and the ones owning the media.

No, other countries based on the fact that almost the entire world went to war against him

>Highly debateable

not at all. Only neo-nazis spout this along with baseless conspiracy theories. Im willing to bet you watched the greatest story never told and think its 100% accurate

>Poles werent persecuting ethnic germans, and even if they were, that wasnt even close to the reason Germany invaded.
That's the very reason they invaded you retard. Even Britain said so and their officials (at least the ones who had nothing to say like Diplomants) were worried that the Polish treatment of Germans will lead to a war. They were even baffled as to why they gave Poland the clean slate in the first place.

>Poland would have had to give up a large portion
Actually looking at the map, it was a fucking small portion which where mostly Germans lived. Even close to the war all the demands were reduced to a "corridor through the corridor", i.e. an Autobahn and train tracks to East Prussia. This is not a "large portion of land".

>Poland refused because that would be retarded for them to do
Can you actually explain why this would be retarded to do for Poland? They'd barely lose any clay and gain the strongest Economy in Europe and the 2nd strongest in the world as their ally, finallizing all border disputes between them and creating a strong defensive against the communist. Please enlighten me as to how this would have been bad for Poland?

NATIONAL SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK YOU FUCKING RETARDED STORMWEENIE

You do realize that this "invasion of Czechoslovakia" is just the allied propaganda story, right? After the Sudetengermans came into the Reich, the other parts of Czecheslovakia wanted independence too and the state broke apart. Then it was the Czech President Hacha coming to Hitler asking to become a protectorate of the Reich because they feared Poland wants clay (which they also took a bit of after the Sudetencrisis). It was negotiated between Germany and Czecheslovakia. Yes it was still against the Munich Agreement (and he should not have done this) but it was no invasion....

No, he invaded those places for real practical reasons in realising his dream of an all encompassing new german empire. Why would he invade Poland just because there were some ethnic germans on the boarder? Why would he then invade the rest of czechoslavakia when he already had the german part of it given to him?

>If Hitler was invading for wealth and preparing for war, as you say, would it not make more sense to invade a country such as France first?

No because thats utterly retarded. Why would he pick a fight with France when it didnt factor into his plans at all? His entire thing was invading and colonizing the east. And how are the borders drawn up by the league of nations arbitrary and Hitlers arent?

you just started bitching about modern day diversity shit when I called out how shitty the nazi government was. And it took you this long to come up with this shitty response.

works in killing tens of millions of people to fulfill one man's manic delusions

>That's the very reason they invaded you retard.

No it wasnt, mainly because it wasnt happening at all. Also, its hilariously hypocritical for naziboos to bitch about minority populations being treated poorly.

Humble yourself supposed Jew. YHWH does NOT approve

^ This 100%

>Hitler was a dictator and only the nazi party was in the government, what are you talking about?

I'm talking about that not all obligations where manifested in Hitler and some of the responsibilities where given to other high ranking members.

"The word used here is "authoritarian," for, unlike the
Fascist regime in Italy, the Nazi regime was not totalitarian. It was not totalitarian
because two members of the Quartet were not coordinated, a third member was
coordinated only incompletely and, unlike Italy or Soviet Russia, the economic system
was not ruled by the state but was subject to "self-rule." All this is not in accord with
popular opinion about the nature of the Nazi system either at the time it was flourishing
or since. Newspaper men and journalistic writers applied the term "totalitarian" to the
Nazi system, and the name has stuck without any real analysis of the facts as they existed.
In fact, the Nazi system was not totalitarian either in theory or in practice."

If you want more info, read Chapter 28 in "Tragedy and Hope" by Quigley. A book anyone should read anyway.

>and it fell to complete shit when
That was years after the list was done and when everything was over anyway

>they were a special kind of shit.
Great argument

>No, other countries based on the fact that almost the entire world went to war against him
So you are imlpying that the people gladly went to war? How stupid are you?

>Only neo-nazis spout this along with baseless conspiracy theories.
kek. Show me a good book you can recommend for the outbreak of the war.

>free

socialism never works

Their whole ideology was about survival of the fittest. Its a weird thing, but if you actually believe in it, then you cant really support it since they lost.

>survival of the fittest
that's free market capitalism

lots of raping of them cute little Nazi girls when it fails again

Of the 657 public schools for the German minorities in the year 1925 (1927: 498), there remained, at the beginning of the school year 1938-39, only 185 (150 in Posen-West Prussia and 35 in Upper Silesia). Resistance to this policy was faced down with the most drastic measures... In 1924 alone, about a third of German holdings (510,000 hectares) went into liquidation."

Insults and violence were also the order of the day, and the Polish police would refuse,
in most cases, to give protection to the German victims. The cultural life of the German
minority was thus paralysed by these measures. The liquidation of German estates and
the de-Germanization of the western provinces was no accidental public utterance from
the former Premier Sikorski in 1923; it was unconcealed government policy 2) since
the year 1919. In October of that year, the future Minister for Education and the Arts,
Stanislaw Grabski, announced, at a delegates' conference, the Posen programme with
the following words:

"We want to base our relations on love, but there is a love for fellow countrymen and
another love for foreigners. Their percentage amongst us is by far too high. Posen can show us how 14 per cent or even 20 per cent can be reduced to 1.50 per cent. That
foreign element will need to decide whether it will be better o somewhere else. Poland
is exclusively for the Poles!"

cont

>actually trying to argue that nazi germany wasnt a one party dictatorship

lol

The rest of your post is literally not an argument/strawmanning

try reading this. Its written by an actual historian and not some neo-nazi propagandist

>I reject reality and substitute my own

Unironically gas yourself.

Following a few examples of the various means of displacement:
Withholding or withdrawal of citizenship, followed by expulsion from the territory on
the grounds of dealing with a foreigner, deportation of former civil servants, teachers
and other public employees together with their families, one-sided administration of taxes
especially of the enforcement of the tax regulations and of the rules for the Agrarian
Reform, withdrawal of the entitlement to practise one's occupation (by revoking of licences,
concessions, permits) with the eect of wrecking the basis of economic life, calls
for boycott tolerated by the authorities. 'The consequent feeling of insecurity with regards
to justice and the awareness of being at the mercy of an alien Power gave rise to a state
of panic amongst the Germans, leading to panic selling of property and emigration of
such magnitude that it even exceeded the consequential result of any Polish force brought
to bear.' This policy forced the German element of West Prussia and Posen to emigrate
en masse between 1919 and 1926.

In 1936 Marshal Smigly-Rydz's paper, the Warsaw Kurjer Porany, commented on this
subject:
One cannot actually state that the Germans will succeed in stopping the continuing
process of de-Germanization of the Western regions, but there is no doubt that they
intend to put obstacles in the way of this process. Thus the Poles could be sure of
getting ever closer to their goal of ejecting or absorbing the German element. The only
thing they need fear from the activity of the Germans was a certain slowing of the pace.

cont

>Second largest empire in the world within 12 years
>Highest GDP in the world within 4 years
>Failure

Kikey Americans are the fucking worst.

>natsoc works
No. You fucking retard. You know what just werks? England. Fucking England. More than a thousand years of legal continuity. Documents spanning centuries encoding your common law works.

>protected

I have two videos for you, you tell me who is right and who is wrong.
youtube.com/watch?v=LQdDnbXXn20
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[spoiler]I think germans were huge faggots for being nazi shits but forgetting about simple morals is pretty bad also[/spoiler]

>yeah, and it fell to complete shit when he actually needed it and there was an attempted coup by his own military.Himmler sold out, Goebbels offed himself

While the Russians and the Allies were basically 2 miles from Berlin, and the war was already lost. What were they supposed to do?

>no, they were a special kind of shit. Go read about Ribbentrop and how much everyone hated him

lol

>No, other countries based on the fact that almost the entire world went to war against him
They only went to war because of false propaganda. The people in Britain, France or the US never wanted to to go war, despite Hitler having already invaded Poland.

>not at all. Only neo-nazis spout this along with baseless conspiracy theories. Im willing to bet you watched the greatest story never told and think its 100% accurate
The Allies declared war on him. Hitler pursued several peace talks after the fact.

You are the one repeating and believing in neo-nazi propaganda because you never bothered to actually study history.

Why should we tolerate a hostile minority?

Of course, French and British politicians protested now and then in Warsaw, but without
any vigour and without any eect. The Manchester Guardian reported from Poland on
14 December 1931:
The minorities in Poland are to disappear. Polish policy makes sure that they do not
disappear on paper only. This policy is recklessly pushed forward, without the least regard
for world public opinion, international treaties or the League of Nations. Under Polish
rule the Ukraine has become hell. The same can be said of White Russia with even more
justication. The aim of the Polish policy is the disappearance of the national minorities,
on paper and in reality.

An indication of just how charged were the German-Polish relations before 1933 is the fact that up to 1923 over half-a-million Germans had to leave their homeland Posen-West
Prussia and, according to Polish quarters, that number had risen to one million by 1931.
That gure represented even before Hitler came to power almost half of the local
German residents! By August 1939, about oneand- a-half million (1.5 m) out of a total
of two million and two hundred thousand (2.2 m) Germans from the territory of the
Corridor and East-Upper Silesia were forced to ee to the Reich.

>muh didn't exist.

>wasnt a one party

That's not what we were talking about. You made the argument of Hitler being the only one holding power. Stop moving the goal post because you get BTFO in your limited world views, kike scum.

>neo-nazi propagandist
>Quigley is neo-nazi propganda
Jesus Christ

>Here goy, read this book just about Stalingrad
This isn't really relevant to the discussion at all, but your low intellect would not understand this.

Do you honestly believe what you are saying? As in can you critically think for yourself or are you legit retarded?

>a hostile minority?

Can you provide information that they were hostile at all? I can't seem to find anything regarding that, only that Poland wanted more clay of Germany and remove their people from the clay. The only "hostile" things about the Germans in that area was that they were not talking polish

>of course Poland has a British flag

But at least I know now that a pole aknowledges the persecution of the Germans.

this is the either/or fallacy, you think it has to be completely all or none. In truth, there was some good things about National Socialist ideology and practices; but it also came with a lot of shit. Ironically, one of their biggest problems was their antisemitism, not because Jews are great people, but because it directly influenced Hitler's decisionmaking in a negative way.

Poland is for the Poles. I fully support the antiGerman policy, those of the Germans that wanted to become Poles were held as a good example to follow. The Germans that bitched about Versailles were given the treatment they deserved.

>They only went to war because of false propaganda.

No, they decalred war on him because he was a bullheaded cunt and acted like an asshole. He was a shitty politician based on the fact that he failed to secure good and strong relations with other countries. the idea that other countries simply saw propaganda as the reason they fought against him is utterly retarded

>The Allies declared war on him. Hitler pursued several peace talks after the fact.

Hitler started it when he invaded Poland, so you cant really blame the allies. And his peace talks ment shit since he went back on his word all the fucking time, especially with France and Britain in the years before. Reminder that he had a non aggression pact with Poland when he invaded them with the Russians and he also invaded Russia while he had a non aggression pact with them

This. Hitler was actually quite tolerated by many world leaders until he refused to stop his expansionist plans. There is a great deal of interesting historical debate, though, about if the UK/France had just let Hitler have Poland if the war could have been prevented. Many believe Hitler just wanted to restore the traditional German empire, viewing him primarily as a traditional German nationalist rather than some madman frantically trying to subjugate all the surrounding racially inferior countries. I tend to view it as a bit of both.

>You made the argument of Hitler being the only one holding power

">ruled over by a single party dictator"

this is literally what I originally wrote. Youre the one making shit up like always after you lose the argument.

And you asked me for a book suggestion, and then when I give you one you bitch about it being jew propganda and say it isnt relevant lol.

Also, nice citation less autistic ramblings that no one will read. Youre not very good at shilling for hitler

Why is it so hard to understand why Poles hated the Germans?

It wasn't your clay, it was occupied land due to the Partitions.


I'll b on my PC in a few mins then if I'll bother I will send some sources.

don't you have some toilets to plunge?

So according to those old krauts, the wehrmacht had every right to massacre local populations because partisans (''non combatants") had ILLEGALLY risen up in areas that were ILLEGALLY occupied in the first place. Fuck nazis.

Not an argument. You are parroting neonazi bullshit you probably heard once after you watched the greatest meme never told.

Hitlers entire reason for invading Poland was to secure that country for his invasion of the USSR. Even the "massacre" of germans you guys always bring up happened 3 days AFTER the nazis invaded.

>about it being jew propganda
did not do that
>say it isnt relevant lol.
Well how is a book about Stalingrad relevant for the time 1920-1939?

As I see, you are just full of ad hominem and can't provide any relevant information yourself. You truly are a great contribution to any discussion Shlomo.

>. There is a great deal of interesting historical debate, though, about if the UK/France had just let Hitler have Poland

They let hitler rebuild his military
they let Hitler re occupy the Rhineland
They let Hitler take Austria
They then called a special meeting to let Hitler have the Sudetenland

They were more than willing to meet Hitler not even half way, let him get fully what he wanted. but after his invasion of Poland he showed himself as an asshole that wouldnt stop

>socialism never works

With Christian work morals and national pride and unity, social democracy has many benefits that leave other governments behind. It is different from full socialism, but still similar.

For example, the Nordic countries and their welfare. Specifically Finland, which avoided many of the Soviet sattelite state problems and gained all the good sides. A young state and a small nation growing to become rich and something that matters, and we can thank our adaption of socialism for that.

t. nationalist and socialist

>>Here goy, read this book just about Stalingrad

this is what you wrote after you asked me for a book suggestion on the start of the war. You clearly were implying that its jew propaganda

Posting jew memes is what you stormfags usually do after you lose the argument though.

Way to just completely ignore that fact that i called you out on your strawmanning of me about nazi germany being a single party dictatorship though

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>posting god awful diahreah of words jpegs

heres a free tip, clean this shit up. It looks like nothing more than the insane ramblings of an unhinged schizo

As I said, the question is if he would have stopped then. We know he hated the Soviet Union with a passion but I think they could have reached an agreement.

built upon the foundations of a market economy, therefore not socialism, but a market economy with a welfare state. They aren't the same. You're economy is a socialist one if and only if a majority of the overall production in the economy is done by state-owned enterprises. That's not the case in Finland.

>You clearly were implying that its jew propaganda
I implied that you are the Jew saying to a goyim "hey read this book". I never implied that the book is kike propaganda, on the contrary, I believe it to be a very informative one.

Just how dense are you?

fortunately

it remains to be seen

now get off 4chin and remove kebab

britcluck egg laying fagit

kys

As a nationalist, I agree with the idea of "Poland for the Poles". The problem is that the Danzig corridor was historically German clay and inhabited by huge numbers of Germans. If I were the Polish government at the time I probably wouldn't have done anything differently, but you can't argue that, from the German perspective, there wasn't legitimate reason to demand that land.

and a huge national debt :)

there was no demand for Gdansk to become Polish, but with such a large Polish minority in the city ain 1919, and the long history of Gdansk being in the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth we had a big case for making the city either Polish, or just not German.

>Issue your own money with nationalized bank
>National debt

something doesn't add up. Just to whom exactly where they indebted to?

We have welfare. I get free money every month. I can get healthcare and dentist for free. Can you?

I didn't create it myself. This is the most relevant part I was showing.

did the Germans living in Poznan like the result of the addition of Poznan into Poland together with all of Wielkopolska, after the Poznan Uprising?

do you think they just decided to get on with life after we took the city and the whole region? there were problems with them, but not so long after that wehave managed to Polnize the city, kicking the Germans out, most of them hated Poles so much they left of their own accord.

To yourself, your own time, to the value of the currency itself. It's the same today.

Shut up you ignorant kike

I pay $150 a month for my health insurance, and when I go to the dentist I'll typically have to pay between $20 and $100 a visit depending on what they do. If you earn less than $20,000 a year, you get free government health insurance called Medicaid. If I'm unemployed I can get some unemployment payments, about 40% of my income for six months, but there is no "job-seeker's allowance" in most states. If I have a disability or can pretend to have a disability I can get government assistance as a check in the mail, usually $1000 a month on average. You can also get housing vouchers and food stamps, especially if you have children.

That's a welfare state, not socialism. In the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany, you were required to work or were thrown in prison as a vagrant.

wtf is this propaganda xddd

"Poland planning fo war on germany"
lol nigga stop putting science fiction fetishes on /pol pls

if anything we were preparing for a German offensive.

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No, it bankrupts the country. Unless something like war can be used to increase spending /production.