Is the #newright legit?

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He's not wrong

MAINE STREWM METEOR

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some would argue that white identity politics got Trump elected. but no one wants to admit that.

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the trump voters, that is. only the alt-right and sjws see that truth.

He is a youtuber, doing his job.

He is with whoever he can make money from, if he could make money from feminists he would be with them.

Don't be retarded.

He's right, that type of stuff only resonated with ideologues who represent 5-10% of the voters at most. Normies don't care about that shit.

This is why the left has been so successful: they broke up the nuclear family, they got multiculturalism, decriminalized drugs etc. They were able to do all these things because they never stated these were their aims out in the open when talking to voters. They instead talked about thing these people cared about like pensions, public transport and such and when they got into office they started working on their real goals. LARPIng like the you live in 1930's Germany is just a dead end road.

THE DEMOCRATS R THE REAL RACISTS!

WE LUV BLACKS!

ASS JAY DOUBLE JEWS

>muh dafties

I gotta agree with him on this. If the Alt-Right isn't just a political boogeyman that the MSM believes is real, it's certainly the SJWs of the right.

DAS RIGHT

Trump/Farage way is the only way. People like Spencer aren't going to get anywhere.

Yes the #NuRight is real

>pic related

You are most right but you are ignoring something.
The left has their radicals, college professors, academics, anarchists and feminists. The Alt-Right should not try to appeal to "average" republicans. The should do exactly what they do now and have an influence on the party in the same way that college communists do for the democrats. Obama worships Ayers and Alinsky, And our next generation of Republicans will worship Jared Taylor and Kevin Macdonald. Watering down the AltRight in an effort to be electable will not work. No one is going to vote for a "Race Realist". But the AltRight CAN influence politicians and intellectuals. A roman salute here or there, and the resulting media frenzy probably does more good, by bringing the curious to our sites, than harm.

He is right, you're a bunch of fags

I think he is fairly straight on his principles. The mistake he makes is to distance himself from the altright movement as the left false-flagging it. I don't think leaving the mothership on a life boat is a solution to rid the ship of rats.

Fuck this faggot

yeah

I agree. That why I referred to ideologues (which I consider myself to belong too). You need those people to form a base for the ideas of a political movement, but you need people like Trump and Farage who resonate with ordinary people to actually get into power.

yes totally

make sure you guys go to Mike Cernovich's Twitter and troll the shit out of him, he's triggered as fuck right now

How are you all enjoying being sold out and co-opted? Fun? How does it feel to watch these mouthpieces take something from you and dictate how things should be when you were a large part of what made them popular in the first place?

i unsubbed from him, fucking cuck, his sandnigger grandkids will be rolled over by tanks

Wait wait wait

Is pic related the same person as OP pic???

No fucking way hahahahahaha Why is he Mexican in his twitter pic???

Im only ashamed that half of us dont see it for that. Its driven a wedge into the community when what we should be doing is drive a stake through the heart of these "nu-right" faggots.

His hair looks like shit

The sides are too long compared to the front

He looks like a 50 year old woman

I greatly dislike the sellouts like Richard Spencer who is trying to co opt our great movement, but luckily such people have no power.

I just noticed that people from northern England, and especially Scotland, sometimes have double eyelids

Must be gook Viking lineage, a half-step toward Asian evolution

It's over already though. They've taken it and will drive it now. Learn from it and don't let it happen next time. Also stop letting faggots and jews play a large part because this is always the end result.

newright are just alt right who are too scared to admit it due to reputation issues, sponsorship, use of liberal owned socmedia etc and nazis are the new untermensch

>our great movement

a movement with no goals, strategy or program

all you do is moan about "cultural marxism" (doesn't exist)

Right/left is a distraction, the only dichotomy that matters is upper class/working class

Nice job Commie

>Numales form the nuright
Cucks.

>LARPIng like the you live in 1930's Germany is just a dead end road.
He shits on white nationalism and for example Erkenbrand like any other maynstream journalist aswell. He is also an opportunist shekel maker and hypocritical coward. And no ammount of damage control will get rid of that.

>implying every President for the past 50 years wasn't born to an absurdly wealthy family of elites

Hey goy, wanna check out that awesome nu right? It bans anti-semitism, racism and sexism! #Diversityisourstrength

this tee bee aych

We're paleo-conservatives

/thread

HARAMBE MINDSET!

>"cultural marxism" (doesn't exist)
Whatever you say Adorno-Foucault.

> He's this mass about THU MAYN STREEEM MEETEEEEOOOOOR

this alt right v nu right thing is really

civic nationalism v ethnic nationalism

and desu ethnic nationalism is the way forward but the larpers in the alt right have managed to let the media fuck their shit up.

He has an incredibly misleading twitter pic so that people can't tell he is an autist.

kek his Twitter pic makes him look so much better than the pasty,blood shot loser he is

Yes, deal with it. Adapt or die.

Hooligans acting like Nazis and advocating the extermination of people is not going to work and its not even what most people here want. The ideology of the right should be based on defence, of family, nation and the self. Hitler lost when he attacked, that's the key here.

Face it. White people (men especially) are the biggest cucks in history.
Honestly, just let yourselves die out. You stand no chance compared to africans who are impregnating women while you're sat on your ass reading this
The white race cucked itself. All you can do is accept the truth and enjoy your cucked lives until you die out.

Yes because Richard Spencer is a hooligan asking for people to be exterminated. Well done for swallowing the mainline meat eater propaganda you worthless cuck.

top kek

He is a bisexual Brit in an open relationship. He and captain lisp are shysters.

Dead movement. All the paleos either died off or became white nationalists.

>Nu-right
>Nu-male founded it

"if you aren't full neo-nazi and you're not "alt-right"
They will forever be niche anti-social misfits, who will be rejected by all parties.

Whether its colorblind adherents like it or not—realize it or not—civic nationalism in the United States is whiter than a hipster bar in Brooklyn.

In other words, White nationalists and civic nationalists are, for all intents and purposes, on the same side (even if civic nationalists fail the Alt-Right threshold). Ethno-nationalism is, to be concise, the extremist variety of civic nationalism in that it limits both the origin and values of the citizen, as it includes ancestry and heritage rather than purely shared values. In practice however, the civic nationalism of many conservatives limits citizenship by origin as well. Whites and model minorities or successful individuals of minority groups are the face of civic nationalism; less well-regarded are illegal immigrants (mestizos who violate the sanctity of citizenship) or urban criminals (blacks who violate the standards of White civility). So it’s not hard to see why the left parses the Republican party and the conservative movement as being racist—what they value happens to be very White or White-presenting. Returning to a society that values Whiteness is an important thing for us, and something civic nationalists do implicitly and White nationalists do explicitly.

Hitler wouldn't want them to glorify Germany, if you're not German there is honestly no point in trying to revive Nazi Germany. Try and create your own nationalist movement and stop larping in public.

In short,
Both sides want the same value but one side (extremist entho- nationalist) need to see the value in planning and subversion rather than using pure shock and outrage to try to win people over. Look at it this way, if you start spamming "oven memes" and "hitler did nothing wrong" you're going to turn those who are getting introducted into your movement pushed away and disinterested. Now, if you slowly give them a gate-way like milo or paul watson then you can introduce them into your views and slowly start "red pilling" them into your point of view.

Many of his followers are. And not in the "handful of cherrypicked media examples to make him look bad" sense, it's actually a statistically significant amount.

Could non-racial nationalism in some sense be considered identity politics?

Sup Forums BTFO

>t. faggot who shaves the sides of his head and only leaves the top

i'm a civic nationalist because america isn't even a white country anyway, and it shouldn't be

it should be based on the values that made us great, and anyone who follows those values is american

don't forget that 29% of hispanics voted trump, those are good people who need to stay here and help us build the country.

i'm also pro-legal immigration from all over the world, whereas white alt-righters are not

what makes you american is things like gun ownership, speaking english or a native american language, and following the constitution. food, sports, and other things also apply but are more regional.

Alt- right, new-right are all BS for cucks. Stop being retards, most of us are nationalistic, far right. God damn the retards.

>Normies don't care about that shit.

Normies don't care about anything but pocketbook issues of the moment.

MAYNE

and pic related is what Alex Jones wants people to see.

STREEM

youtu.be/43X6eHArK2Q

Cuck.

METEOR

So much wrong with this post.

The antlantic are kniving kikes.

But, Henrik saying "oh we were just having fun!!" is the same excuse some SJW's and Libs make about "kill all white people" shit.

Not very logically consistent. Owning the roman salute is much better than a soft apology.

There is too much wrong with your post, /r_donald/ users need to go back

>They trusted a "Civic Nationalist" Anglo

Get ready for enrichment.

why do you want america to only be whites, that is stupid when some whites voted for hillary

What is his end goal? He talked about the nu-right being a bunch of 'diverse' people who make memes and wear MAGA hats but what intellectual base does his 'new right' have?

george washington, thomas jefferson, james madison, to name a few

Refuse labels. You knew this would happen.

Societies cannot really be cohesive without ethnic homogeneity; in order for a society to be stable the state needs to impose uniformity of culture rather than emphasize diversity. Ethnic homogeneity is not always the same thing as genetic homogeneity, but rather a sense of common identity -- a common language, a common culture, perhaps a common ancestry, et cetera.

We definitely need to let the neo-Nazi area of the alt-right drown on its sinking boat. People will never vote for an out right racialist; we need to achieve slow white population increases through conservative and classical liberal means. Fascists are as bad as the communist and progressive slime that we are all united against, my brothers-in-arms.

You don't speak for "most of us", leaf.

o do otherwise is unproductive and divisive. The only thing that holds the United States together is this fanciful idea of personal freedom and liberty, and it is only reinforced by economic prosperity. The only reason immigration to Europe is possible is due to that same relative prosperity. However, beneath the surface there is always some residual tension that will be impossible to fully resolve without imposing uniformity.
If you look at Eastern Europe, for example, prior to WWII it was an ethnic hodgepodge of Germans and various Slavic peoples. Nazi Germany's solution was to subjugate the other ethnic groups in order to elevate the Germans -- which is an understandable approach -- whereas the Soviet Union's solution was to drive out all the Germans from the east and create ethnically homogeneous nation-states. There is no Danzig or East Prussia anymore; it is now Gdansk and the Kaliningrad Oblast.
In Anatolia and the Balkans, Greece, Turkey, and the various Slavic countries solved the problem of heterogeneity by means of ethnic cleansing and population exchange. Turks and other Muslims from the Balkans and the Caucasus fled to Turkey, whereas the Turks themselves drove out the Greek and Armenian population. -- And what do we have now? Ethnically homogeneous and relatively peaceful nation-states. (The only large minority left in Turkey are the Kurds, and it is they who are causing most of the problems.)
Even European states have had to impose a sense of cultural uniformity on their populace. At the eve of the French Revolution, half of the people living in France didn't even speak French -- they spoke Occitan, Breton, Alsatian, etc. -- there are also many regional German and Italian dialects, and so on.

Stop pretending this faggot is independent, he wouldn't exist if he wasn't propped up by infowars.

He has no real opinion, all he's done the last couple of years is parrot Sup Forums's attack on SJWs and Clinton.

Now he will distance himself from you as he's a paid shill for infowars and not an independent.

There is a lot of truth in this. You can be a white nationalist (like I am), but sperging out IRL like you're shitposting on Sup Forums is idiotic and counter-productive.

In short a "diverse country" only works somewhat in cosmopolitan areas like New York because of economic prosperity and because each ethnicity is so diffuse that none can establish effective political dominance.
America is still a white country. The closer you are to being the norm, that is, white (and generally of Northern European descent), the better off you will probably be. To some extent, being a mixture of several different European ethnicities helps in the sense that you are culturally disconnected from your original ethnicity, thereby reinforcing the idea of an "American" identity. If you are of a mixed race, it helps if one of those races is white or if you have an Americanized name.
The further you are from the norm the more apt to be alienated from the mainstream culture. So in fact, a white Christian American is "more American" than a Japanese-American or an Arab-American or an Indian-American or whatever, no matter however patriotic they might feel or claim to feel.

Fuck off senpai. We all know if you would you would make nigger slaves, and have free trade.

>Societies cannot really be cohesive without ethnic homogeneity

Oh, so cuckservatism because they're obviously going to ignore the politically incorrect opinions of those characters

its like they say to destroy an enemy make them your friend.

The kikes are certainly trying to fag up the right wing with all their filth.

He's correct, there's two types of alt-right. I think the side he's on is the paleolibertarian mixed with anti-SJW side

If you want to see why diversity and multi-multiculturalism is not beneficial for a society research the Putnam study.
Putnam did a comprehensive study of the relationship between trust within communities and their ethnic diversity. His conclusion based on over 40 cases and 30,000 people within the United States is that, other things being equal, more diversity in a community is associated with less trust both between and within ethnic groups. According to conflict theory, distrust between the ethnic groups will rise with diversity, but not within a group. In contrast, contact theory proposes that distrust will decline as members of different ethnic groups get to know and interact with each other. Putnam describes people of all races, sex, socioeconomic statuses, and ages as "hunkering down," avoiding engagement with their local community—both among different ethnic groups and within their own ethnic group. Even when controlling for income inequality and crime rates, two factors which conflict theory states should be the prime causal factors in declining inter-ethnic group trust, more diversity is still associated with less communal trust

Lowered trust in areas with high diversity is also associated with

[-]Lower confidence in local government, local leaders and the local news media

[-]Lower political efficacy – that is, confidence in one's own influence

[-]Lower frequency of registering to vote, but more interest and knowledge about politics and more participation in protest marches and social reform groups

[-]Higher political advocacy, but lower expectations that it will bring about a desirable result

[-]Less expectation that others will cooperate to solve dilemmas of collective action (e.g., voluntary conservation to ease a water or energy shortage)

[-]Less likelihood of working on a community project

[-]Less likelihood of giving to charity or volunteering

[-]Fewer close friends and confidants.
Less happiness and lower perceived quality of life

[-]More time spent watching television and more agreement that "television is my most important form of entertainment"

Here is the 2001 study
web.archive.org/web/20150221143809/http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/data_access/data/datasets/social_capital_community_survey.html#.UDTTcnCUpME

Here is his full paper he published in '07 about the subject, well worth the read

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x/abstract;jsessionid=61A2BEBD42CEAB45B644A04A91452B0D.f01t03

I think it's just a ploy to subvert growing anger into a more PC right wing group. This guy is a civic nationalist which makes him a cuck.

I don't label myself as anything, to label ourselves is to define ourselves, which weakens us and makes us easier to critique.

People who try and justify any immigration are a no to me, if you look at the demographics, in Europe we are being replaced my a torrent of immigrants and when they get here they out breed us. America has its own issues that are similar, going from 90% white to 50%. This trend will continue and has already left a mark on our peoples genes by making race mixing trendy.

alt right and new right have both been used for about 6 years to describe a pretty wide variety of views. r/new_right on reddit has been around for 6 years and is basically the daily stormer

I can understand their frustration with the media labeling the ``alt right'' an evil white supremacist movement and their desire to find a better title. the media's stupid of course, and the whole alt/new right thing was never a unified movement. it's a very loose collection of different conservative beliefs. I'd say the unifying factor (at least speaking for the us) is that we're younger conservatives who don't feel represented by the dominant neocon/fundamentalist right that controls the gop

you have nonreligious paleolibertarians/conservatives, religious traditionalists, soft fascists, muh 1488 types, mostly apolitical anti-sjws, pua/dark enlightenment faggots, esoteric hitlerists, and reactionaries all lumped into one group despite having quite different views

I'm confused here. I for one enjoy watching Paul Joseph Watson videos (and Alex Jones, even though he's a shill) yet I'm the kind of person who tells libcucks to get over Trump's victory and I wear my Trump hat and Trump button on my shirt every day at my job. Am I alt-right? And what even is the Nu-right? Sure wish people would stop attaching labels to everyone who has a different opinion than them. Right or left, what's the deal with this alt/nu/far right/left shit?

God I hate this generation of millennials.

>The other likes to obsess over the Jews
Doesn't Paul work for infowars? Isn't the Jews the only shit Alex Jones talks about?

If he likes freedom so much, then why doesn't he move to America?

This is what is important, spreading our ideas and knowledge is what is important, the left has a near monopoly on the media we consume, all publicity we can get for ideas is good publicity. Once a person is red pilled its hard to go back to being blue pilled.

We have to stay one step ahead of the enemy, and at least for now we know what they truely want to do; continue and increase immigration multiculturalism and advance their globalist goals. Thus when someone tries to get Machiavellian or sly with their words on these topics we know that they are against us.

At the moment their tactic is trying to make us not want to associate with the alt-right and subverting the alt-right into a form of civic nationalism which is an idea that will not help us.

The core of the issue imo.

Finally someone on Sup Forums with a brain.

If you believe genetics has something to do with nationality, then you're alright. If you're taking care of your wife's son, then you're nu-right.

>identity politics
>doesn't resonate with people

This guy sounds like a real intellectual heavyweight