I'll regret saying this but need some insight from you guys....
My political side has been becoming really authoritarian lately.
On r/Europe's my peeps want full blown censorship against you guys.
I know most of the stuff posted on here is fake news but I believe you still should be able to post whatever you want.
It's getting so bad on my side with the anti Russian hatred and "we should hurt anyone who opposes the EU"....
Is there anything I could do to convince them to tone the authoritarianism or is it a lost cause?
Jackson Myers
Why does her head and neck look like a worm with a wig, and make-up?
Anthony Flores
>liberal progressive here from reddit
You have to go back
Jace Butler
Turn over your sub to us. Do it. Pussy.
Cooper Cooper
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James Johnson
Asking for a rational discussion on Sup Forums was my first mistake :D
Isaac Lewis
okay so if you won't give the sub to us then wtf do you want us to do
Wyatt Evans
yep...
Isaac Howard
*downvoted* xD
Adam Ross
don't post the source
Alexander Young
No. The plan has been set in motion. The useful idiots are being mobilized to do their masters' bidding.
Caleb Lee
Are you a mod there?
Jace Lopez
>waaah pls help
Luke Cooper
You really expect the same people who probably mourned the death of Castro to be anything other than anti democratic and authoritarian? How deluded are you, brother. In all honesty, the political right has been given the room to grow by being isolated, and people like you (and me a year ago) who question the liberal orthodoxy are chastised and told to get back in line, or else.
Lucas Bell
Yes, how did you know? :O
Owen White
No, Saying you were from Reddit was your second mistake. Being from Reddit was your first.
Anthony Lopez
It's too late faggot
Zachary Williams
Meme magic.
Nolan Collins
Low quality bait
Thomas Garcia
If the left had any ideological integrity they wouldnt be in complete agreement with policies that allow big business and banks to exploit our countries. Why is it every time there is a referendum or a vote the modern liberals are constantly shilling for the side the financial sector wants done. The left is nothing but an arm of the state.
Landon Anderson
What you fail to understand is that I want the libs to be authoritarian. I want them to feel secure. I want them to feel confident. Confidence breeds distraction, and that is when one is most vulnerable.
Samuel Butler
LOO, Like a reddit board has any say here...
Fuck off.
Juan Brooks
Liberalism is dead.
I went to the other side just because of this shit.
The right is now the side of the people, liberals are censorship nazis who look out for corporate interests.
Jayden Allen
haha us redditors amitire?!?!? XXXD
Austin Russell
>Wants a good reason for why censorship isn't a good solution.
Well, let's just skip over the part where I call you and your friends mentally and ideologically weak for wanting to silence the opposition rather than engage in an effort to rationally combat what you THINK is disinformation.
But, it's cool. Just for the trouble of having to deal with our user interface, I will give you what I believe is a strong argument against censorship.
The Government should not be responsible for, let alone permitted to, censor people who speak about controversial subjects (read "hateful" by libs), because society will correct the issue itself. Do you think that Richard Spencer will be able to book a hotel's conference room after it was revealed that they were saluting like Nazi's this last week? Probably not, because people will want to distance themselves from people like him. Now, if you decide to force censorship under penalty of criminal charges (fines/prison time), then two main things happen:
1. You legitimize those who are silenced and more people start to become curious about what is being censored, especially younger people. Thus, validating it to an extent.
2. You make it impossible to identify people who hold such radical views, and so, society is unable to correct ("shun") this behavior.
Essentially, censorship hurts rather than helps your cause. The same exact thing happened with Communism as a result of McCarthyism.
P.S. Only an autist would take everything they see on this board too literally. We are constantly bombarded by shitposters . . . especially the L.E.A.F.s
Ayden Ortiz
>rational discussion >coming from a faggot that still posts on the website that allows mods to edit your opinion >implying you're capable of a rational discussion even if this were not the case
Wyatt Phillips
We need to petition to make Antifa classified as a terror group.
Asher Cook
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Lucas Hill
Best recommendation is ask people what they think Europe stands for; most people should agree that Europe stands for liberal democracy. Since respecting other points of view and other sides of a debate is integral to the democratic process, repression of the other side in debates about the EU is then "anti-European", since democracy is a key part of what Europe stands for. If people don't think democracy or debate are important European values, then you're fucked and lost to authoritarianism.
Since you're a mod, you could make a rule that comments that don't respect the democratic process will be deleted since they are anti-European. If you don't like censorship, and it sounds like you don't, somehow try to create a culture of respecting opposing points of view by highlighting how "European" it is. But this is fucking reddit, so that probably won't happen, nobody on reddit joins a sub to respect opposing viewpoints.
Nicholas Davis
no coming here in the first place was your first mistake fuck right back off to reddit where you belong
Christopher Murphy
>Is there anything I could do to convince them to tone the authoritarianism or is it a lost cause? Progressive thought cannot survive without authoritarian censorship ya goober. saged because reddit
Julian Sullivan
It is a lost cause. There's nothing "liberal" about the left anymore.
"Democrats" aimed for a totalitarian control over the population and what you're seeing is the effects of indoctrination coined for that purpose under the pretense of a "righteous cause"
There's a reason for those "control left" memes.
Zachary Rodriguez
>Is there anything I could do to convince them to tone the authoritarianism or is it a lost cause? oh, but we don't want them to tone down the authoritarianism. Lefty abuses of power the instant they get into a position of authority. As well as their constant rioting, violence, insults and elitism are our biggest allies.
Austin Howard
What the fuck do we care about what happens on your shithole of a site? Spoilers: we don't.
Go back there and don't come back, commie.
Chase Ramirez
Also most of the "fake news" is another part of Orwellian propaganda from the mainstream media. It's a label for anything that goes against the narrative and exposes facts that are inconvenient to said narrative.
Nolan Brown
Seriously though OP, you can't stop it. The left is a creeping Authoritarian movement, they've reached that point now. It's a BIG wheel, with A LOT of momentum. You can't save your movement.
Brandon Jenkins
>Brazilian
>racist
>white
Sure mate.
William Wood
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Joshua Sullivan
Speaking seriously, there's nothing you can do to save reddit.
If you actually want a more free place to discuss leftist ideas then you might want to check out leftypol on 8. I don't go there though so I can't tell you exactly how pleasant you will find it.
Kayden Bell
I really, really like that nighty, wish I could get one for my wife.
Jackson Johnson
Maritza Mendez for all who do not know
Jonathan Jackson
First thing you have to do is stop being a massive fucking faggot. You might want to visit a doctor and get some treatments for your low testosterone.
After you stop being a faggot, you will realize that all of your progressive friends need to be fucking purged. Use your status in r/faggotry to radicalize your former comrades and push them into a fatal confrontation with the right. You'll be glad you did.
Samuel Anderson
You want us to raid? Is this what this is about?
Christian Harris
what IS the left?
Isaac Ramirez
A miserable pile of triggered.
Landon Perez
liberals u mean?
Ryder Nguyen
This.
Henry Evans
>dude in a wig This has nothing to do with racism, but I am racist.
Joshua Rodriguez
many here i reckon like me used to be liberal but didnt like the way the left went with social justice and being cunts
the only way user is force the left to hard reset
brexit and trump....we thought it would wake them up...but it hasnt so we are gonna have to make the EU turn far right before they realize it is THEM who caused all this pushing and forcing shit people didnt want
Henry Evans
>not 555x555
Julian Young
kys
Zachary Miller
There is nothing you can say or do to ever convince them to change. Take it from another leftist, all you can do is help moderates come over to the more skeptical side, those who already self identify as leftist are a lost cause.
Joshua Ramirez
you can't fight it at this point. your only options are to either walk away or accelerate their destruction by pushing more and more absurd censorship until it collapses upon itself
Alexander Allen
why does pol think liberals and leftists are interchangeable terms. just proving how thick u all are.
Benjamin Barnes
oh fuck
Aaron Moore
No, your first mistake was becoming a nigger loving communist with no loyalty to your own people.
You're a disgrace. Go back to your nu-male hideout.
Cooper Sanchez
amazing
Zachary Myers
Why don't you learn to type, Mohammed.
Jayden Green
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Landon Young
What fake news do we post?
Daniel Ross
argue the point instead of throwing laughable insults across the internet big boy. tell me how socialism and liberalism are the same thing. ill wait.
Camden Long
checked
Jaxson Collins
HOT DAMN CHECKED
Xavier Hughes
NO WAY
Eli Torres
>Is there anything I could do to convince them to tone the authoritarianism
No because that's the logical conclusion of your beliefs.
Isaiah Martinez
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Adrian Flores
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Jeremiah Foster
your kind isn't really worth arguing with. yuropoors have all these titles, parties, names and definitions that are barely different from each other. the purpose is to keep you subverted and divided. by liberalism you're probably referring to classical liberalism and at that point you may as well call yourself a fucking conservative. socialism, liberalism, leftism, communism. it's all the same shit today. call it what you want, i don't care. continue being worthless and arguing definitions
Evan Gonzalez
I think that is the story of the majority of people on Sup Forums.
People want clarity, sanity, security, fairness, law & order, peace & quiet, logical consistency, and above all honesty -- and they aren't getting any of it from the so-called "left". In fact, the "left" currently is repulsed by all of these. The introduction of rabid identity politics was the last straw and has sent these PC whiners into a spiral of violent outbursts and utter irrelevance.
Matthew Gutierrez
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Jayden Thomas
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Ryder Roberts
No NO NO THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING I'M IN CHARGE HERE