Why is Fascism, Nazism and the far right growing in the West?

Why is Fascism, Nazism and the far right growing in the West?

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The People are waking up.

The pendulum swings and things have gone too far left

Because Hitler was right.

Because hope is blossoming like a beautiful rose whose time has come.

It's a chain reaction.

But Nazism is left-wing nationalism (national Socialist party)

Because after the fall of the Soviet Union the left made a Faustian pact with liberal elites and big businesses to flood immigrants into our nations to drive down wages in an attempt to create a multicultural diverse society free of hate but which has actually led to white flight, dispossession, radical islamist atrocities and Muslim rape gangs so the collective white underclass wants fucking blood and for the former groups to be hung from lamp posts, gunned down and rolled over by tanks.

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because we wuz vikings n shit

There's only so much arrogance kikes can display before a civilisation gets fed up.

White identity politics is growing which naturally results in people coming to the conclusion of white nationalism and since fascism and national socialism are the best systems of governing a white nation, it follows that fascism and national socialism will grow as well.

But that is factually incorrect. You cannot place National Socialism on a left-right political scale. It is a syncretic politic.

It is neither left nor right

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What the fuck is living in Malta like? What is it like politically?

Influence of an ancient Egyptian chaos god

Liberalism endorses tall poppy syndrome, cutting down anyone too successful and shaming people who embrace the fundamental truths of society.

Conservatism forgets who that success is supposed to benefit, making the acquisition of money the be all end all of the American Dream and forgetting that we should be lifting each other up as a nation.

There is only one true position, the third position, fascism.

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Pretty damn based for the most part old chap. Stoutly Catholic, it's the Poland of the Mediterranean.

It's the body politic's natural reaction to Jewish overreach. History is clear in this matter.

Yup, this. I'm surprised it took this long, frankly.

And now (((they))) are running around like mad to coopt the swing by encouraging it in counterproductive directions to further fragment and foment disorder to more fully destroy existing civilization and society so that the New World Order can be built on the ashes.

This is the time to be vigilant to expose these subversives and evildoers out to set their perversions upon a reaction meant to be against their perversions.

Well said friend

Look at the western leaders response to Fidel Castro's death and you will see why.(Western countries are supposed to hate communism and Fascism due to oppression of human rights, but it seems all of them except trump think its okay to call Castro a president who was loved by his people)

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The right in South America is also growing. Latin America I do not know.

In this year's municipal elections we voted for the less left-wing politicians. The left and extreme left has lost a lot of strength (we are currently center-left). Taking into account that we have practically 2 right-wing politicians in the whole country (a libertarian and a conservative)

If there are right-wing candidates in the presidential and parliamentary elections in 2018 they will win easily. But the monopoly is still left, we have no options.

It's not, nazism is socialist ideology, what we have in the west is rise of capitalism once again.

Come over to my house and we'll find out together ;)

>nationalist socialism
>far right

>Everything I don't like is literally Hitler

Cause lefties are dumb

For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. The SJWs have gone unchecked for far too long and moderate conservatives aren't taking their shit any longer.

While ideologically hitler was far right, economically he was far left
>everything must be black and white
>simplifying
Nazism was very specific political system and it did very specific things, you can't just name some random things nazism or else you lose what it really was about and you let history repeat. Both sides of this argument are retarded

Defining it by far right and far left misses its point as well. Like you said, it's far too specific. Observations like yours are also inaccurate and it has been pointed out earlier on in the thread.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's glorious because relatively few people can mount a coherent argument analyzing the dangerous parallels to the Third Reich.

The rest literally revert to calling it literally Hitler just because it goes against their (((agenda))).

There is no Nazism growing here. We are going back towards nationalism pushing against globalism. But I absolutely wouldn't call it facism at this point.

Also the Nazi's were socialists, we are trying to head away from that. It has ruined many other countries, and it has set ours up for failure.
R.I.P Keynesian economics.

You're talking out your arse, research National Socialist economics and the principles behind them and then you'll realise that it bears little to no resemblance to Marxist socialism.

I did it for the sake of Sup Forums post. We may debate how socialistic economic system combined with nationalistic ideology and geopolitics of the time contributed to war crimes but it's not the place nor the time for that.

But is not Trump interventionist in the economy?

>thinking in one dimension

add a Z-axis to that and you'd have a good representation of the political spectrum

There's one thing I'm intensely envious of, in regards to Germany and the UK.
Germany passed fucking healthcare bills under WILHELM FUCKING II, while slavery was always illegal in Britain. Some cunt is quoted saying, "the air here is too pure for a slave breathe."

Americans should absolutely have that kind of pride in their country. They "should" be more worried about abject squalor existing a few blocks from their houses and the embarrassment it is for the country.

Because change needs to be done incrementally over generations or it won't last.
But the left got greedy and since the 90's they went from
>"homosexuals should be tolerated"
to
>"10 year old boys should get their penises removed and put on HRT, its entirely natural and normal"
from
>"borders should be protected but we need to be nice to the poor illegal immigrants"
to
>"everyone that touches american/european soil is an undocumented american/european, open borders or you are racist"
and so on.

They went too hard too fast and they are going to lose, a lot.

>hitler liked pasta
>gandhi also like pasta
>gandhi is literally hitler
shieeeet

Basically this, when people think there's a movement happening, then a movement will actually happen.

Because it sadly is the only thing that would work at this point.

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To a certain extent, I wouldn't even talk about its economic and ideological aspects as separate entities at all. There's lots of information about this in Mein Kampf and I can also direct you to an interview with Hitler in 1923.

People getting fed up of lefties shit.

Also, Liberal tears are delicious.

Very much so in international trade, which is a rightful role of the federal government. Domestically, he might even be a little bit dangerously in favor of privitization / deregulation / libertarianism, but that remains to be seen, and it would seem at least somewhat counterbalanced by an intention to do some actual productive stimulus spending rather than just shoring up insolvent financial institutions. I sure hope to see a return toward a more antitrust leaning domestically to help put the brakes on the growing corporatocracy that we already have.

We'll see. Hopefully we will not have landed in the fire by attempting to jump from the frying pan.

Anyway compering 2016 american pollitical system to 1939 germany pollitical system is a bit silly don't you think?

Net neutrality is the only thing I really think he has a mind to botch, in terms of "dangerous" privatization.
Comcast, AT&T, and Time Warner all absolutely deserve to be driven out of business by public ISPs. Terrible fucking companies.

Pushing trannies and pedos sparked its own powder keg. Every homosexual needs an oven.

>Catholic
>based
take the redpill lad

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Well this thread talks about the West and not just America, although I agree with you. However, if this ideology were to materialise again, it is malleable enough to adapt itself to the socioeconomic climates of our beautiful lands and peoples.

Socialism is about powerfull central state that dictates the conditions of life.
A ruling elite of intellectuals that think they know how the plebians ought to look and behave and that they have the power to enforce their ideals.
You can thank me later.

Sadly I fell asleep three hours in while watching this some time ago and never bothered to pick it up again. tl;dr?

You're talking about marxist socialism, guy. Socialist was a catch-all term for every political party in Europe. You will be hard pressed to find one single party that didn't have the term "social" or "socialist" to describe it of that era.

Anonymity + repression of minority groups for the sake of minority interests.

Affirmative action being the most direct example of this where more qualified students and job candidates don't get to go to school or get hired for the sake of racial equality.

Peoples outrage over the lack of equality of treatment is overcoming their outrage over the lack of equality of outcome.

I think the moment I got pushed too far is when they tried to redefine racism to be privledge + power so de facto only white people could be racists.

To put it into more modern terms, since socialism have been forever dirtied by marxism, NatSoc of the 30's was more like NatCap of today.

Because Niggers, Muslims, and Spics are fucking awful and we hate living around them.

This wouldn't be happening if we only had Japanese immigrants.

defense mechanism

Catholicism is covert satanism. The small elderly man living in his city of gold with his jewel-encrusted throne adorned with an inverted crucifix while he carries a golden staff with the image of the disfigured Christ while worshiping Mary as a deity and drinking the symbolic blood of Christ in rituals should have tipped you off to this.

Also the dark ages.

No I am talking about every kind of socialism and every form of socialist.
It is the the basis of all their motivation.
No matter if Marx, Lenin, Hitler, Castro, Trudeau or Obombo
The only socialst that is not driven by this arrogance is the pleb that just wants gibs.

That is not only applicable to socialism. Nationalisation was limited to big banks and big corporations in the Third Reich. Excluding the assimilation of all Unions into one, most things were left alone. It is centrist more than anything.

Actually, this.

Look back throughout history, the Jews have been driven from every single place they've ever resided. It's not because people are naturally anti-Semite, it's because of what Jews tend to do once they're established within a country (the very same things they're doing to all westernized nations at the moment).

History is extremely clear on this matter and what typically happens once the general public is fed up. The Jews only thought they could get away with it this time because of TV being here to distract us. They didn't account for the spread of redpilled information. That's why they keep going on about needing "censorship", etc.

All in all, things have gone WAY too far left OP. In addition to this, the left is basically calling for the demise of the white race as well (I personally think that's really what woke people up). If it had been the other way around, people would probably have no problem going along with it (until it was too late anyways).

What makes you believe that? Considering we HAVE experiences of second world war in mind not even neonazis would try to start it over again. Also consider that society actually going the opposite direction so the perception changes too. It's not not the right is more and more nazi, it's that they appear more and more nazi because we are more and more... what? Libearal?

History repeats itself.

No, you're not. You're talking about marxist socialism. If you really want to know more, read about the Krupps and how they were allowed to operate completely unimpeded provided they didn't provide arms to Germany's enemies. That's what NatSoc was, total freedom to operate as you wished PROVIDED you were not actively hurting the state or its citizens.

Anonymity + repression of majority groups for the sake of minority interests.

Affirmative action being the most direct example of this where more qualified students and job candidates don't get to go to school or get hired for the sake of racial equality.

Peoples outrage over the lack of equality of treatment is overcoming their outrage over the lack of equality of outcome.

I think the moment I got pushed too far is when they tried to redefine racism to be privledge + power so de facto only white people could be racists. It was the constant lies of omission to make it look like problems like blacks and natives getting murdered was primarily because of racist white people and racist white cops. It was generally holding white folk collectively responsible for past injustices while not applying the same logic to any other racial group. It's treating poor white people like they lived a life of privilege.

The left is literally using warped reporting to agitate people into killing cops right now and telling people that it's not as bad to be racist if you're part of a minority group.

Once the left learns that they should start treating white people like allies and equals instead of oppressors that should apologise, the center will get scared off by the RACE WAR NOW crowd and the pendulum will swing left again.

Croatia is the Poland of the Mediterranean.

>The pendulum swings and things have gone too far left
ITS NOT A PENDULUM, YOU FUCKING MARXISTS!!
Leftism is an anomaly unheard of before the eternal bagguet fagget tried to play patriot.

I understand what you're getting at but a "reincarnation" would have the horrors of WW2 in mind, such that I expect to see a Trump-like anti-war stance

>only limited to big banks and big corporations
>only

>most things were left alone
>education
>social engeneering
>hitler and NSDAP at large messig with military

No, I am sadly not.
If you'd understand the far reaching reprecussions of NatSoc, and the basic socialist drive to do "good" with other peoples lives and money by force is the eternal source of NatSoc failure.
You even suggest NatSoc didn't restrict peoples lives because they did not go full ape on the fiscal side? lol m8

Seeing the haittrigger criticism of Trump, my favorite example is the "Scandal" where he "stumbled" on disavowing David Duke after CNN asked him if he disavowed David Duke 2 days after he disavowed David Duke was a good example of this. The left won't research into Trump to see if he actually supports David Duke or not, he doesn't, they will just use a time he stumbled as proof he secretly wants his support. They will bring up the subject, knowing he doesn't support him, just to connect Trump to David Duke.

Compare that to media coverage of BLM, where they actively promote skewed views that make white people appear like they are responsible for a much larger part of the problem than they are. Even if you're a left-wing antiracist you know the truth isn't that the big problem is there are a bunch of these cops going around killing black people, you're more likely to blame stuff like economic inequality. But they allow them to push this racist narrative without question that gets people killed, they give them a bullhorn.

Here in Canada BLM tried to force the police away from the gay pride parade, not because of current issues, the police and gay community in Canada have relatively speaking a pretty great community. But because of HISTORICAL injustices. BLM is so tired of there not being any injustice or segregration that they basically want to dig up issues that everybody had gotten over and drive the police and gay community apart in the spirit of segregration. Not because it will actually help the gay community, just to make a statement. They encourage this toxic victim mentality and living in the past.

I honestly think Sup Forums is nuts after having been here awhile, I've browsed consistently about 2 years and have been on and off since it started. The left can still win me over. I'm a centrist. But their heads are so far up their own ass.

A far stretch, but I intend on being baptised a Protestant when I move back to England nonetheless.

Boredom.

>baptised
satanism

You get this idea that deep down, some people in the left RELISH racial conflict and the idea of people oppressing others. Because it gives them a chance to be morally righteous. So they encourage it.

I thought for a long time left wing agitators were a right wing myth. Something that MLK was accused of being by bad ol racists. Then you see groups like BLMTO who piss off the entire country and have no ideas deeper than lets drive gays and the police apart. Lets turn societal progress decades backwards so we can feel like victims again.

>far reaching reprecussions of NatSoc
You're gonna have to be more specific. Vague terminology is what lefties use here to describe "climate change" and it's why they got destroyed this election. (also muslims) From the businesses I've read, they did quite well under Hitler, provided they played ball and didn't go against Germany's interests.

You talk about the reclamation of resources from Jewish bankers like it had been a bad thing

Because it's funny.

Equal and opposite reaction to leftist insanity. The exact sort of backfire I've expected for years now and have been fearing.

Ok

You either die a free land or live long enough to become a fascist state

>inverted crucifix
Symbol of St. Peter.
>the image of the disfigured Christ
I've seen protestant churches with the figure. His death is believed to be a sacred act of self sacrifice.
>while worshiping Mary as a deity
They don't.
>drinking the symbolic blood of Christ in rituals
I've taken communion in a Methodist church before.
It was a little hard to envision a shot of Welch's as being "sacred," but that's neither here nor there.

because leftism is gay as fuck

you fuckin wot m8?

I can't make sense of this.

the left right scale is fucking dumb, anyway, because most of the given policies on either side have nothing to do with most of the policies on the other side.

the left-right scale was useful during the french revolution, because it was literally true, (monarchists sat in the right wing of the hall, republicans in the left wing) but that doesn't mean it is useful after that point. especially when you consider that the right wing in most places is republican now and even if they have a king, do not want to vest any power in him.

society is decaying so we want an authoritarian state since clearly atheist are too fucking mentally ill to be free

business and the economy is going to shit so we want to let the economy breath

also too much kebab

this tbqh

Agreed, and some people fall into the trap of "oh X is described as left/right by people so I have a predisposition to oppose it due to previously held beliefs." It's retarded and a shame to see individuals reject something when they haven't even looked into it.

Well, you use vague asumptions to claim that National Socialism, a total failure of an expansionist totalitarian state, clearly evident through history, was actualy centrist and worked well.
This is because NatSoc is the right-wing equivalent of the left-wing (global)socialists and all sozialists, as I said, operate on the same merit.
I would urge you to prove yourself.

Sup Forums needs to learn to discard socialist cancer as a whole and focus on its nationalism.

You talk like hitler just kicked jew ass and left everybody else do their thing.

>Well, you use vague asumptions to claim that National Socialism, a total failure of an expansionist totalitarian state, clearly evident through history, was actualy centrist and worked well.
No, I didn't. I described to you specifically how the Krupp Industry was allowed to operate entirely unimpeded provided they did not hurt the interests of the Third Reich. That is not "totalitarianism" when entities are allowed to operate freely of the government. Further, they were definitely able to self sustain through the war until its conclusion, compared to the USSR who needed continual aid from the US and West Europe.

How is Keynesian economics not socialism? Offsetting a lowering GDP with public funds is a ticking time bomb and short sited thinking.

So you say that old NSDAP buddy Krupp and the like were alowed do do their thing in nat NatSoc was not totalitarian and you claim you have provided sufficient proof? Do you even know how fascism is defined?
Nigga you out of your league.

Yes, I know how fascism is defined. I have an entire paper on it. Proceeding with dump.

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The failures of the right are the victories of left and the failures of the left are the victories of the right. That's the way it has always been, until the left got mad and censored/ignored the right, acting smug and righteous turned to be their demise, history gave them The Power and they blew it.

Matter of fact is, unless we are all willing to drop this radical dichotomy and break the wheels of history, we must understand that both right and left are part of the same equation, that different opinions are necessary to achieve progress (and I mean real progress, not this trendy SJW hipster version of progress)

Then there's the fact that representative democracy has failed, but the alternative is either progressing to a participative democracy, which is very unlikely if most people still insist on being blue pilled, or take a step backward and ditch our (little) freedom for an authoritarian/dictatorial government mechanism.

If nerds are right, we might actually be entering a new stage in human history, for better or for worse. Now it's up to the people in the left to do some soul searching and ponder the possibility that maybe they've been lied too as well, that upholding nationalistic values is not bad, that socialism has some good ideas too, that fascist tactics are not exclusive to the right, so on and so forth.

Nuance has been forgotten, the left did not help in providing nuance and therefore it got out of hands, these are the consequences.

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