Protestantism is Bluepi

>Protestantism is Bluepi...

well Sup Forums?

Look up what he thinks of blacks

You should read about what he says regarding Muslims.

So there's an unholy aliance with catholics and jews?

Interesting

between*

Well as a seminary student I can tell you that a lot of his views are contrary to that of the Bible or the Early Christian.

Seminary student here. AMA

>a lot of his views are contrary to that of the Bible or the Early Christian.
>Early Christian

You mean Jews, right? Because early Christians were literally a Jewish sect.

Luther was a reactionary faggot that wanted personal power and wealth. Fucking second schism inducing asshole.

t. beerhallstani

I just KNOW you can do better than that. Bretty gud still.

Initially yes. But there would be an influx of Gentiles into Christianity. All the figures that would be known as the "church fathers" are all Gentile. Some can be anti-Semitic. Even the Jewish Christians would oppose the Jews themselves as seen in documents like the Didache for example. Either way, like it or not Christianity will also be infleunced by Judaism

Ah, good ol Martin Luther.

95 theses.
Look it up.
Summarizes everything wrong with Judaism today, despite originally being intended for the wealthy papacy.

t. indulgencist

Too bad he would go autismo later on though. If he wanted to be a true Reformer he could've done it like Jan Hus

Protestantism is Christianity made into Islam.

all these mad papists in the thread

Is this a weak bantz day in straya? I've come to expect more of you guys.

Im part of the state evangelical-lutheran church and i can say that nordic protestantism is pretty much dead, it got hijacked by cultural-marxists, the core values are not christian but socialistic, they believe in the "jesus was a nice, peace loving guy" meme.

Our state run church is literally hiding illegal mudslime immigrants, the government knows this and is not doing anything because theyre all a bunch of cucks.

>the kraut is actually defending indulgences

I just like how he straight up nailed it to the door of his local sect.

Too bad the average peasant couldn't fucking read lol

Which is why he wrote it, ironically.

>If he wanted to be a true Reformer he could've done it like Jan Hus
Like be burned alive so that papacy could continue its godless practices undisturbed?

Yeah, and get his arse capped by the Catholic Church, I don't think so.

Hese-cuck or MV-öyhöttöjä spotted. Go out sometimes, no cuckery here where I'm from.

Wow ur so learned

>Seminary student here

Get out of that while you still can.

Jan Hus did not introduce anything new and opposed corruption. Luther opposed corruption and created more radical innovations to doctrine. Can you find a belief in sola fide and sola scriptura in the fathers? Or better still an understanding of free will that is contary to the fatalism of Luther himself which his later followers have to chug out?

Or how about the fact that textual criticism on the NT shows how sola scriptura is completely alien to it?

Or the fact that he literally ignores the fact that there are differing canons of scripture to the point that his removal of the Deuterocanon is itself a new innovation?

Why? I enjoy it. Except the fact that it is an Anglican seminary

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>protestant
>import millions of muslims and become mostly atheist

What did they mean by this?

>. If he wanted to be a true Reformer he could've done it like Jan Hus

jan hus war burned at the stake , luther made it out alive

t. Lederhosen

Here is the thing, protestantism today is like what the SJWs want towards identity, that is where there is no distinction between a male and female or a black and a white. This is to be seen in it where its view of sola scriptura creates a climate where there is no certain set of rules to read the Bible and intepret it as such rules are subjected to the Bible itself. The beginnings and even today of Protestantism is marked with division and schism, bought about by a doctrine that makes knowing scripture impossible

>my 400 people village church is cuckold free

well good for you but by being part of it you still support the hiding of illegals against finnish law, gay-marriage thats against gods law, and feminism/socialism that the state run church promotes.

They believe its ok to be immoral and do whatever you want because jesus was a nice guy and jesus would do the same, which is absolutely false.

Orthodox christianity and catholism is more close to the bible version of christianity than this modern socialist pseudo christianity.

So? Hus is pretty much what the Reformers ought to do. To oppose and not be autistic to create a brand new and foreign christianity. Or turn on each other like a pack of rabid dogs

Ask /lit/.

>St.Clement The Jew

I think your mom's husband wasted money on your seminary education.

Try Independent Baptist or Pentecostal.

Well, like Catholicism, modern Protestantism is a corruption of the original intent of his work.

If we're going to worship a dead kike on a stick then I want to hate modern day jews as much as possible in compensation.

Jan Hus did not introduce anything new and opposed corruption

Neither did luther from a literal view of the bible
offcourse his teachings got corrupted later on

>stockings

>Jan Hus did not introduce anything new and opposed corruption
Jan Hus wanted to give eucharist for laymen in both forms and that was enough to be burned.

>Can you find a belief in sola fide and sola scriptura in the fathers?
If you read the fathers, like 90% of their argumentation is based on the scripture. There was not that much corrupt traditon at that point.

>Or better still an understanding of free will that is contary to the fatalism of Luther himself which his later followers have to chug out?
St. Augustine was pretty much fatalist. Lutheranism has always teached election for salvation.

>NT shows how sola scriptura is completely alien to it?
Teachings of Jesus show that scripture is more authoritative than traditions

>removal of the Deuterocanon is itself a new innovation?
According to Bible, Jesus used hebrew canon without deuterocanonical books.

t. blackdinguslover

No doubt the reformers failed , but christianity is not suppose to be a organised religion people just look for power , at least the bible was free for the people and now everyone could know jesus christ and his father

Corrupted by himself. His later followers had to fix it up and take out the fatalistic bits of his sola fide.

Why would I want to learn about the early church that is essentially editted?

Correct. Protestantism is a corruption of what Christianity is. This is why Sup Forums protestants always without fail ignore the early Christians or biblical scholarship

You have no idea what you're talking about, limey.

Protestants in the South are based.

Your island and the cucks who live there are the problem, you should probably look at migrating out of the beast empire ruled by cryptojews.

The son of God walks into a (((Temple))) and smashes shit and talks shit literally going 1776 on the establishment.

Christianity is pretty red pilled tbqh
It's just too bad 90% of Christians don't even read the Bible or know what Jesus said besides a few pop culture quotes.

Is he /ourguy/?

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Church tax goes directly to the congregation you are part of. It also decides its own actions. There is no single budget for the church.

>hiding of illegals against finnish law
Happens in Helsinki and couple other cities, is illegal and their own decision that does not apply to the rest of the church since each congregation decides its own actions and will answer for them.

>gay-marriage thats against gods law
Gay-marriage is illegal in the church. There has not been any changes on the matter.

>feminism/socialism that the state run church promotes
No, it does not. Jewmedia interviews only the few Helsinki cuck

Wrong. The Fathers held a high view of Scripture but also read Scripture under certain rules such as the Regula fidei. They also presuppose continuity and succession hence Irenaeus' use of listing a lineage of the bishops of Rome to drive home this point. Sola Scriptura rejects these and makes them subservient to scripture when ironically that is the very means of proving and knowing scripture.

Augustine is not a fatalist. In fact it is his view that the Manicheans are fatalistic in nature.

In Jesus' time scripture is read publicly and collectively. This imply a regulative intepretation of whatever scripture it read itself contra the individualistic reading of Sola Scriptura. In fact all of what Jesus did is simply Oral Tradition written down. The very teachings and parables of Jesus or Him instituting rituals like the eucharist and baptism are Tradition itself which makes the whole Jesus Sola Scriptura picture ridiculous.

According to the NT, not all OT books are cited.

>Sweden

Like pottery

>christianity is not suppose to be a organised religion
Mathew 16:18, "I will build my church." "Many shall come in my name and deceive many."
Protestancucks and heretics BTFO by the bible itself

Catholicism and the Anglican church are heresy, and have become as full of shit as the Pharisees and Sadducees.

Todd White is Pentecostal in style, and he's more of a Christian than any stale old pagan Catholic alive.

Most Catholics don't even believe in Jesus, church is just tradition and going through the motions. Just like it is with the Jews today.

Telling people that they cannot stop sinning, but instead to go into a phone booth every Sunday to confess to a virgin they make you call Father, which is blasphemy, is like smearing Jesus' face in the muck.

Jesus said to stop sinning, you faithless spergs. Not tell the priest all about it for his fap fuel and future blackmail ammo.

It is an organized religion by definition. Even the NT makes this clear with how the Christians were organized. The Apostles certainly held positions of authority

Based is not ignoring the Bible and history. Based is not making it such that nobody can even know the Bible

>Protestants in the South are based.
>Shouting and dancing with snakes.
>Based.
They are just dumb hillibillies that dont understand theology

>Bishop of Stockholm
>Stockholm

why am i not fucking surprised

Going to Hell.

Christianity is everywhere like this.

You essentially tell us how much ignorant you are of the first Christians who prayed at certain hours of the day, fast, think they eat the flesh and blood of
Jesus in the Eucharist, think Baptism is for the remission of sins and necessary for salvation and do not even sola scriptura.

So unless you can point to me a historical source that says otherwise, Christians essentially followed the Jews quite a lot in their worship

>Catholicism and the Anglican church are heresy, and have become as full of shit as the Pharisees and Sadducees.
>Todd White is Pentecostal in style, and he's more of a Christian than any stale old pagan Catholic alive.
>Most Catholics don't even believe in Jesus, church is just tradition and going through the motions. Just like it is with the Jews today.
>Telling people that they cannot stop sinning, but instead to go into a phone booth every Sunday to confess to a virgin they make you call Father, which is blasphemy, is like smearing Jesus' face in the muck.
>Jesus said to stop sinning, you faithless spergs. Not tell the priest all about it for his fap fuel and future blackmail ammo.
Jesus name Peter as he succesor hence the Catholic church is the only true church. Daily remainder that tradition>>>scriptures as Jesus legacy is the church bot the bible

>Can you find a belief in sola fide and sola scriptura in the fathers?
yes.

Catholics burned people at the stake for reading the Bible.

I'd wager most Catholics and Anglicans have never even read the Bible, while most Baptists have.

>tiny village in west virgina

>t.wetback 0.5
You've got the blood of Esau pumping through your veins, and I'm supposed to take your heresy seriously?

being charitable is one thing

actively destroying that which you claim to stand for is on another level

How can we trust any work beside scripture if scripture tells us the anti christ is already at work , if there are letters we can trust god would have added them in the bible


>Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

also paul says this

> 7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.


i trust the early church fathers as much as i would trust judas

>Giving the Eucharisty with soda and Cheetos.
Protestants are beyond saving

Let me demonstrate how misguided all of these are with the same fathers themselves,

. . . but concerning matters of faith, they [The Fathers at Nicea] did not write: ‘It was decided,’ but ‘Thus the Catholic Church believes.’ And thereupon they confessed how they believed. This they did in order to show that their judgement was not of more recent origin, but was in fact Apostolic times; and that what they wrote was no discovery of their own, but is simply that which was taught by the apostles. (On the Councils of Ariminum and Seleucia 5; NPNF 2, Vol. IV)

Look, everyone.

It's that assburger Catholic that spams every thread with his heretical eucharist garbage that has nothing to do with remembering Jesus, and everything to do with pagan Catholic elitism and mind/pleb control.

Matt 16:18
"I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it."
Heretics BTFO

LUTHERANISM CAN be the most red pilled but it depends on the kind.

>like it or not Christianity will also be infleunced by Judaism

That's where you're wrong, kike

For, as we have found after long deliberation, it appeared desirable to adhere to and maintain to the end, that faith which, enduring from antiquity, we have received as preached by the prophets, the Gospels, and the Apostles through our Lord Jesus Christ, . . . (On the Councils of Ariminum and Seleucia 10; NPNF 2, Vol. IV)

Whoops, antiquity as a requirement. That isn't sola Scriptura

. . . “That ye remember me in all things, and hold fast the traditions, even as I delivered them to you.” It appears then that he used at that time to deliver many things also not in writing, which he shows too in many other places. But at that time he only delivered them, whereas now he adds an explanation of their reason: thus both rendering the one sort, the obedient, more steadfast, and pulling down the others’ pride, who oppose themselves. (Homily XXVI on 1 Corinthians; commenting on 1 Cor 11:2)

Huh does sola scriptura accept authoritative oral tradition as Chrysostom implies?

>herp derp i never read the bible so a single verse cherry picked and misinterpreted means everyone but catholics go to hell

You're a fucking moron, my dude.

And if you don't wake up, you're going to be a moron burning in Hell.

Have a personal relationship with Jesus through the Holy Ghost.

That's something very hard to do in the pagan Catholic cult.

Have fun next Sunday in your gilded house of sin.

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>Heretics
>Based
t.cuck

I-is this real?

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Here is Gregory of Nyssa

it is enough for proof of our statement, that the tradition has come down to us from our fathers, handed on, like some inheritance, by succession from the apostles and the saints who came after them. They, on the other hand, who change their doctrines to this novelty, would need the support of arguments in abundance, if they were about to bring over to their views, not men light as dust, and unstable, but men of weight and steadiness: but so long as their statement is advanced without being established, and without being proved, who is so foolish and so brutish as to account the teaching of the evangelists and apostles, and of those who have successively shone like lights in the churches, of less force than this undemonstrated nonsense? (Against Eunomius, IV, 6;

And some more from him,

The question is, as I said, very difficult to deal with: yet, if we should be able to find anything that may give support to the uncertainty of our mind, so that it may no longer totter and waver in this monstrous dilemma, it would be well: on the other hand, even if our reasoning be found unequal to the problem, we must keep for ever, firm and unmoved, the tradition which we received by succession from the fathers, and seek from the Lord the reason which is the advocate of our faith: and if this be found by any of those endowed with grace, we must give thanks to Him who bestowed the grace; but if not, we shall none the less, on those points which have been determined, hold our faith unchangeably (On "Not Three Gods)

Again the same emphasis on succession as requirement

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1. Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

“That ye remember me in all things, and hold fast the traditions, even as I delivered them to you.” Cor (11:2)
>Heretics in charge of theology.
By the way the bible was edited by the church. Luther's autism is not even reasonable as there was not a true version of the Bible until the church did it

The eucharist isn't even necessary for salvation, it is done to remember Jesus.

However, the sinner's prayer of conversion and adult baptism are part of what Jesus himself said are required.

And that's how I know you "Catholics" have never actually read the Bible, and you're just a lazy euromexican that is content with letting a priest read it to you in Latin.

Many such cases.

Orthodoxy is objectively THE best denomination, even if some of the churches are probably controlled by KGB cunts.

t. pagan pedophile

>say something bad about jews
>you are redpill
This is pretty retarded

Yup. Some protestant churches wamt to attract the youth with cheetos and Mountain Dew

Concerning the teachings of the Church, whether publicly proclaimed (kerygma) or reserved to members of the household of faith (dogmata), we have received some from written sources, while others have been given to us secretly, through apostolic tradition. Both sources have equal force in true religion. No one would deny either source – no one, at any rate, who is even slightly familiar with the ordinances of the Church. If we attacked unwritten customs, claiming them to be of little importance, we would fatally mutilate the Gospel, no matter what our intentions – or rather, we would reduce the Gospel teachings to bare words.
St. Basil the Great, On the Holy Spirit

But goy, American Christians are taught that Israel is superior and that Jews are God's chosen people, and others are filth.

>than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Matt 16:18.
Protestantism=autism

So Protestantism is the master race of religions? Cathcucks btfo.

Taking your doctrine from one misunderstood verse topkek

>The eucharist isn't even necessary for salvation
John 6:53
"Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

If you think that Bible was made in the council of Carthage you are the autist. Scripture existed from the moment apostles wrote it down.

2. Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

The Greek is the original New Testament, and the Roman Church removed an entire Commandment and several other verses they didn't like that were in the Bible.

King James restored the Bible in English, and included books that the Catholics had removed from the Greek Bible.

Read more, especially the Bible.
The unabridged, not-Catholic version is what I recommend.

t.FormerCathcuck

No, faggot. Protestants are taught that.

Anyone know how to become Protestant?

"I will build my church." "Many shall come in my name and deceive many."
Jesus alredy warned us about the protestant meanance

Get christened and go to church.

You don't have to suck a Priests cock like catholics do.

>Matt 16:18
Couple verses later Jesus calls Peter Satan
Peter denied Jesus three times
Peter got BTFO by Paul

That is a pretty good foundation you have there,

Eating his flesh is reading his Word, and drinking His blood is being washed by the blood of the Lamb.

You don't even understand your own religion.

Jesus says over and over that He brings a different type of bread.

He isn't talking about a Triscut, ya doofus.