>he DOJ's proposed changes to Rule 41 will become law December 1 >The DOJ says the changes are no big deal. Just an "update" on outdated laws. >The proposed changes would allow the FBI to hack thousands of computers around the world with a single warrant >In addition, the DOJ wants permission to break into "compromised" computers and poke around inside them without the permission or knowledge of the owners of these computers. It also wants to treat anything that anonymizes internet users or hides their locations to be presumed acts of a guilty mind.
>treat anything that anonymizes internet users or hides their locations to be presumed acts of a guilty mind
>a magistrate judge with authority in any district where activities related to a crime may have occurred has authority to issue a warrant to use remote access to search electronic storage media and to seize or copy electronically stored information located within or outside that district if: (A) the district where the media or information is located has been concealed through technological means; or 338 of 372
(B) in an investigation of a violation of 18 U.S.C. ยง 1030(a)(5), the media are protected computers that have been damaged without authorization and are located in five or more districts.
>fucking blanket warrant a district (globally) and search any computer that's using a VPN for "botnets"
>hey guys we're all one people and borders don't matter >except when it comes to which country my illegal child porn is stored in nsa get out
Mason Adams
yes
3 days from now, unless the senate postpones this, america will become the unrivaled global power of spying
Any europoors/canadians that might be laughing, take heed that this will affect you as well. This is a problem for the entire internet
fuck off shill, they don't need to suspect you of any crime to hack into/seize your computer, please read the fucking links provided before making dumb posts trying to slide an important thread
Cameron Johnson
bump holy shit how does no one care about this
Joshua Hill
It's not like we can actually do anything. We even bother?
Easton Lopez
Bumping 4 u. It's not that nobody cares, it's just that (((shills))) are sliding this with irrelevant crap.
Brandon Sanchez
Well what can we do about it?
Jaxon Ward
you can start by linking this to everyone you fucking know
what do you mean why even fucking bother? this place meme'd a god damn billionaire into presidency, and suddenly they cant garner senate support to deny this fucking bill?
Joseph Morris
bump
Blake Thompson
We're just getting a plethora of great news today, aren't we?
Carter Kelly
Why should i care they'll want to kill themselves if they look through my shit. Only crooks would be worried about this. If this helps put more crooks in jail I'm all for it.
Brandon Brown
Interesting how closely this corresponds with the UK's 'Snoopers Charter'. which gives exactly the same powers to everybody from GSHQ to your local benny office.
Ayden Martin
bump for thought crimes
Carson Fisher
They will likely put that sort of thing on your computer and then arrest you for it. I think thats not actually allowed in the US because it would be entrapment, but they would probably just pretend it wasn't them.
Zachary Bell
wait so if you use a vpn then they can go into your shit?
Carson Adams
This argument is so tired. So I guess you wouldn't mind daily police checks in your home, since you should only be worried if you are a criminal right?
Ayden Johnson
bump
Carson Hill
BUMPING AGAINST THIS INJUSTICE
>PRAISE KEK! MAY HE PROTECT OUR VPNs!
Juan Green
Oh god no that didn't happen trump won because Hillary was worse than him and the niggers didn't vote. But if believing that makes if you feel special then I understand.
John Richardson
yes
>authority to issue a warrant to use remote access to search electronic storage media and to seize or copy electronically stored information located within or outside that district if: (A) the district where the media or information is located has been concealed through technological means
>within or outside that district >if: (A) the district where the media or information is located has been concealed through technological means
Nolan Stewart
This is fuckin important.
Shit like this means no investigation into pizzagate rings. We need to be able to hold (((them))) accountable for crimes
Christian Nguyen
We can'd outjew the jew.
When I think about global spying and such I suddenly feel powerless, depressed and crushed, all my enery starts to leak out, I'm deflating like a balloon popped with a needle. I want to commit suicide.
>this place meme'd a god damn billionaire into presidency It's all just a big LARP and we know it.
Landon Kelly
Should I?
Elijah Phillips
tard
Aiden Edwards
>>treat anything that anonymizes internet users or hides their locations to be presumed acts of a guilty mind
>Be burgerstanian >Open incognito window >FBI kicks down door and shoots dog
Eli Lee
So just don't use the internet.
James White
i hope you fucking die.
think about this. do you trust the government? is the government infallible? if your answer is that the government makes mistakes that opens you up to the possibility of "finding" something on you. or if not you countless others they would love to plant info on to arrest
Benjamin Smith
ah good good, then you wont mind stopping by the police station twice a day to check in then, since you have nothing to hide.
Dominic Bell
Well are daily police checks in the bill? No they're not so this statement is irrelevant. Answer my question, why should I care if I have nothing to hide? And btw the way the only reason I would hate daily police checks is because it would be annoying not that I have anything to hide.
Ian Gutierrez
...
Angel Long
Nice answer
Joshua Barnes
Wow, you feel powerless because they can spy on your computer? You're still a human being. You have choices. Go off the grid, let th world burn while you watch from the trees disconnected from it all.
Henry Reed
>what is an analogy
You're a cucked little bitch. >I don't care if I don't have a right to privacy! It would just be an inconvenience but they can do what they want to me!
Jose Martinez
Yeah well I hope you die! Ha! Kys you paranoid fuck who gives a shit life will go on World will keep spinning.
David Ward
anyone reading this thread, filter this faggot by unique ID, dont reply to him in any serious way,
please spread this thread, make a new one if this thread dies
Luke Morgan
Yeah I wouldn't mind and that's not in the bill is it?
Sebastian Hernandez
not an argument. do you think the government is infallible and or non corruptible ?
Christian Cruz
>what is an analogy
Brandon Harris
You have nothing to hide, but you say something "they" don't like, then you get got for something you've never seen on your system before and they have no reason to believe you, good luck with that.
Aiden Torres
>Answer my question, why should I care if I have nothing to hide?
This kind of mentality is anti-freedom.
Kayden Nguyen
Can they still hack me with TOR?
Ethan Peterson
is a different guy, you retard.
Sebastian Moore
Oh great! Then you probably won't mind a cavity search at lunchtime everyday either. Nothing inside there, so no harm no foul right? Just gotta get those damn criminals!
Carson Russell
I'm sorry it doesn't bother me are you afriaid they'll expose you for looking at trap porn? Kys infowars
Lincoln Martinez
this. the guy is a shill. trying to detract the thread
Alexander Price
Stupid analogies it's not even close to the same.
Daniel Kelly
they cant hack my pc tho i have AVG on it.
Alexander Flores
It's very much the same thing. It's literally just a physical equivalent to what they are doing online you fucking moron. Please kill yourself.
Jayden King
Oh really so now we're living in the big brother controlled America? Why did we vote in trump?
Dominic Ward
How is it stupid? So if you were pulled over and the police asked to strip search your car, you'd say OK, make me sit here and wait for 30 minutes while you tear my shit apart, no problem?
You are truly a little faggot. Do you wear panties under your clothes?
Noah Lopez
Yeah well glad we voted trump then huh so much for MAGA I guess
John Wright
Trump has nothing to do with the proposed laws.
CTR shill.
Lincoln Edwards
Oh wait that's not going to happen is it? yeah it's not.
Jaxon Howard
I suspect the first things to get raided will be exit nodes, so yes stop replying to it
Landon Howard
Oh, Christ.
Oliver Cruz
well fuck
stop and frisk just got a whole new meaning
Cooper Long
Is there no way for your Senate to drop this bill? How much support has this from your Senate?
Aaron Miller
bump for cyberpunk reality
Cooper Watson
Is it though? Is it really VERY MUCH the same? Does your dumb fucking ass really don't think they could already do all of this with the patriot act? God kys you dumb ass mother fucker it won't change shit and life will go on: I'll be long dead before they start the big brother 1984 shit so guess what I don't give a flying fuck.
Bentley Edwards
they already are
Kevin Anderson
>>hey guys we're all one people and borders don't matter
Says who faggot
Alexander Sanders
Theoretically how can you stop a remote hack? I mean would they get in through the VPN provider or are we going to just have to use burner computers with no identifying information and just filled with memes? can you encrypt your computer when you aren't using it?
Bentley Ortiz
Talk about unconstitutional, what in the fuck?
Who PUSHED this bill?
Carson Wilson
Bump for justice.
This is for real or OP is a fag?
Jonathan Ross
You said many words i don't understand Probably why no one care
Jaxson Lewis
Oh yeah well then why can't he over turn take that ctr and shove it up your ass you dumb fuck
>Wyden's earlier bill hasn't gained any traction and the hopes of a complete rejection before December 1st are nearly nonexistent.
Levi Evans
BEcause the Nigger is still president, shill.
Levi Adams
How old are you?
Josiah Myers
DONT WORRY GUYS TRUMP WILL SAVE YOU IN JANUARY RIGHT??! THATS WHY YOU VOTED HIM IN! MAGA RIGHT GUISE TOP FUCKING KEK
Connor Cooper
You think you have nothing to hide user?
What happens when all of the sudden that shit you thought was okay, isn't? What happens when the gov becomes more and more overbearing and all of the sudden you have no voice to speak out? Do you think it ends here you fucktard? Do you? Because it doesn't. It started a long ass time ago in the the 1900's and now we're here. Go abd read 1984, you'll get the idea.
Or you're the submissive shithead you come off as and you could care less if big brother constantly has his eye on you and keeps over-reaching with his authority, until one day, on fateful day, you express a slight dissatisfaction against the government and you're thrown in prison.
Matthew Fisher
No, but Trump is in favor of these sorts of measures. He has expressed support for NSA domestic spying and he likes law enforcement agencies in general, so I'm sure he supports these FBI measures to if he's aware of them.
I liked Trump when he first ran, but it's precisely for reasons like this that I stopped supporting him after a few months. He's no friend of liberty and his idiot supporters are not helping the country move in the right direction.
Jason Ross
>Open tor link while browsing >Get shot
Alexander Reed
t. concern shill
Angel Cruz
The shills are gone kys
Liam Cook
We need to call our senators I am serious. Get this to reddit asap. Get trump to tweet about it. Anything. This is fuckin scary level rounding up political dissidents nay sayers and whoever authority
Dylan Hernandez
I just read the article. Lol, fbi can't hack shit You guys are worried about nothing. Learn how a network works and how to use firewalls.
Sebastian Rivera
>pepe creator gets labelled terrorist propaganda
Wyatt Perry
You are bad at formatting. He could but it's better to not have the change in the first place? I mean it can't hurt to not change it, unless you have some reason why they should have that much power? Every reply keeps this on page one by the way, and we can make these all day, for free.
Juan Peterson
Dont reply to weak b8
Logan Rogers
Hey lay off the pipe and cut down on the infowars pal you're paranoid as fuck. Welcome to the future there is not a god damned thing you can do about it.
Justin Ross
I lol'd.
Daniel Smith
What's a concern shill? Haven't heard that one before. I know this much: I'm not faking being concerned, I *am* concerned.
Julian Lee
>Post a pepe >Didn't enter full name into Sup Forums >Get shot
Evan Wood
There are no breaks on this train. Buckle up nerds.
Wyatt Perez
They can, and they will since most chipsets have built in backdoors.
Nathaniel Cox
here's laymans terms for restriced vocabulary anons
>THE FBI WILL BE ABLE TO VIOLATE YOUR 4TH AMENDMENT (law.cornell.edu/wex/fourth_amendment) ON DECEMBER 1ST >IF A DISTRICT JUDGE GRANTS A WARRANT TO THE FBI, THEY MAY SEARCH AND OR SEIZE ANY COMPUTER THAT'S USING A VPN IN THAT DISTRACT WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION TO DO SO
im calling my senator as soon as its noon, and im about to draft a letter and mail it 10 times
Michael Bell
Bump.
Isaac Gomez
Most onion nodes are already owned by the 'states secret service
Joseph Butler
This is correct you dumb shits
Xavier Baker
I hope your family dies
Jaxon Hill
Thought Police are here, ladies and gentlemen! We 1984 now!
Parker Roberts
This is why i don't like the USA, they always interfere with other countries and not focusing on their own problems. I will use a vpn from now on because i don't feel safe anymore on American websites
Caleb Hughes
>treat anything that anonymizes internet users or hides their locations to be presumed acts of a guilty mind Isn't it against UDHR and literally every civilised law code? Innocent until proven guilty?
Caleb Adams
Yeah, didn't see his other replies. It's pretty clear now.
Dylan Flores
You kys, bitch, at least I still have a country. Fuck you.
Thomas Walker
Trump is for this you fucking cock sucking mongoliid you vote for someone and don't even know this please kys.
