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Religious people, if the earth/universe is ≈ 6000 years old. How come we can observe light from stars and galaxies at a distance greater than 6000 lightyears away?

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>falling for the intergalactic Jew

Sage.
Listen to this wise Sage: "Atheism is gaey, degenerate and anti-thetical to Nationalist values"

Sweden is the most atheist and homo and cuck nation on d'planet. So you figure.

Light doesnt have a speed moran. Light is just on and off

Light is instantaneous, it comes from God himself

Obviously physical constants have different values outside solar system.

> How do photons work

Back2School Sascha

Most religions are anti-thetical to nationalist values. Except Islam and Judaism.

>I went to public school: The Post

damn bro, i had no idea the speed of light (1 number) could be calculated from 2 different number. VERY informative gif

Any religion, when faced by some factual contradiction, can make the argument that x is just a test from God. It's not really arguing in good faith, but there you go.

Wow, really activated my gunman

If you have any questions, consult the works of Aristotle and Socrates. If you can't find an answer there, consult the Bible. If your question is still unanswered, then WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW THE ANSWER, SO STOP ASKING YOU HERETIC.

>Forgetting Zionism, Hindutva Nationalism, American Nazi Party, Catholic Rex, Syrian NS groups, Turkish NS groups, The original NS themselves etc...

Atheists are naturally Anti-Nationalist. That's why most modern civilization are liberal cuckhold SJW antifa shills. The nature of communism is TO BE SECULAR. Faggot.

Because the light was created midway dumbass. God just put it there so we would know that there's stuff very far away.

Don't mistake cults and religion.

How do you know how far away those stars and galaxies are?

God put the photons there mid-transit to test our faith.

Christ believer here, the Earth is not 6,000 years old.

So you admit Atheism is a cult, while everything else is a sensible religion.

Go crawl under a rock godless bolshevic kike.

>Religious people

Well, the catholic Church declared the Big bang theory compatible to the faith in 1951.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lemaître

The more you learn about physics the more you realize you have no idea what's going on

I was skeptical about your views on religion, but the fact you posted some mathematical equations, i hate religion now.

>Being a biblical literalist
Even the Catholic Church abandoned the '6000' number long ago.

I can make up a mathematical model to prove I'm right too user. T.retard

Because the speed of light is slowing down.

church-of-yehovah.org/light.htm

The first technique uses triangulation (a.k.a. parallax). The Earth's orbit around the sun has a diameter of about 186 million miles (300 million kilometers). By looking at a star one day and then looking at it again 6 months later, an astronomer can see a difference in the viewing angle for the star. With a little trigonometry, the different angles yield a distance.

Holy shit, some dumb fucks here

The catholic church is also full of heretics.
In much the same way we don't take Revelations literally, we shouldn't take Genesis literally.
How long is 7 days to God?
Do we know?
Man was made last according to God's creation and that's pretty observable in reality.

The earth likely isn't 6000 years old, but certainly the Big Bang Theory has always been against entropy. It was accepted too quickly and should be discarded in favor of something more reasonable.

Because the Bible very clearly states "God created light".

In addition to creating the stars, God created light as if the stars had been producing it for billions of years. He wanted to give us a beautiful night sky, and He has done so.

This is what creationists believe. The universe was created so God could love and be loved by man. Why would an all powerful being create the universe then just sit around and wait for 14 billion years for man to evolve? That's retarded. He created the universe a few thousand years ago, but he created it as if it had been around for billions of years.

There is absolutely no difference between a creationist universe and a universe created by the Big Bang, because they are the same. This cannot be disproven. Checkmate, fedora.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parsec
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift

Out of curiosity, do you know what is the uncertainty on the result?

If God does exist and is omnipotent, he could do whatever the fuck he wanted, including make it seem as if what you said is true. Not saying I'm a biblical literalist, but your """argument""" holds no ground.

While I do believe there is a creator that doesn't make religion true by any means.

When you look at the world and universe and start asking the who what when where and why about our existence it's hard to deny that we came from absolutely nothing, since everything needs a creator.

On the other hand, religion is a man made cult made to make everyone behave in society. "do this and this or you'll burn forever in fire for eternity ok?". Take a child into the church and shove that into a kids mind while he's young and yes he will be religious. It is purely formed by the government and other members to govern the people, Look up Deitism, it is the belief I've chosen and it actually makes the most sense; it believes that there is a creator but he had no interference at all with the world or any of these religions made up, he simply watched everything and didn't interfere.

youtube.com/watch?v=mQJuZK77Au8

Did the ameritards came up with parsec because they hate the logical systems?

How come we can observe memes from boards that no longer exist if the simulation started 10 seconds ago?

Because light years are fake durr

Earth is flat and there ARE NO planets/galaxies/etc light years away. EVERYTHING is within 20,000 miles of the Earth.

Your argument is invalid. There's no such thing as space!!!!!!!

>How come we can observe light from stars and galaxies at a distance greater than 6000 lightyears away?
How can you prove that those stars are "6000 light years away"? This is a totally unfalsifiable claim (ie NOT science). It's like saying the "Big Bang" happened 12 billion years ago. It's a complete guess based on incomplete math.

Parsec is very logical system for astronomers.

>creates entire universe
>cant set the light to reach the Earth
r u tardid

Listen up you cucked faggot, nowhere in the bible does it say the earth is 6000 years old.

>Amerifats are too dumb to make simple trigonometry

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>Why would an all powerful being create the universe then just sit around and wait for 14 billion years for man to evolve? That's retarded. He created the universe a few thousand years ago, but he created it as if it had been around for billions of years.

This is where your argument pretty much falls flat on it ass, one can ask what would the purpose of that? By doing that he just disproved his own existence even more, science has already picked up and created events that have happened far beyond your timeliness, there is absolutely no reason for God to make a universe with a past, this is all kinds of retarded mind gymnastics.

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>Sascha

engadget.com/2016/11/27/test-for-change-in-speed-of-light/

>simple trigonometry
explain dark matter to me. Explain how you can come up with a functional equation of the universe, when 98% of the universe is made of "dark matter" (ie we don;t know what the fuck it is).

The same kind of math that tree niggers were using 1,000 years ago. This doesn't prove anything other than that the Earth spins around.

Because Deus Vults it.

It can probably be pretty damn accurate seeing as some methods meassure properties is particles comming from the object. But the field of error is obviously orders of magnitudes larger than the object you are studying.

Okay I don't believe the universe is only 6000 years old but you are being arrogant to think we know as much as we do about the stars.
They base all they know on assumptions about red shift and the assumption of chemical makeup of stars. They then model it all using more assumptions based on observations made in our own solar system. It is kind of like taking measurments and observations of a grain of sand on a beach and trying to understand how the entire Earth is composed.
Don't be so arrogant.

there is 1 difference at least. one created by god wouldnt be expected to be infinite. there is no need for limitless space if the god of the bible made the universe

some god as of yet unknown to man sure but nobodies religion to the best of my knowledge has any limitless expanse depicted in their religion. heaven is measured in cubits. its not infinite. its about the size of a small city / town by modern standards

so if heaven isnt infinite why would normal reality be infinite

Because God is a multi-dimensional entity. He is not bound by time, but the universe only exists when He is present. So he created the universe but hangs out in this period where people are present. Should he choose to travel back in time and visit the dinosaurs then they will exist.

He made the past because without doubt there cannot be Free Will. An incomplete universe would certainly mean there is a creator, then our love of God would be insincere.

Something, something 14 billion years are nothing, walla walla his methods are beyond our comprehension.

>all powerful
>sits around for 14 billion years
>why doesn't he just hit fast forward?

lol

How do we know the distance of those objects?

>when they went to the moon

Kek.

>ITT people who are too lazy to read about cosmology or astronomy but have all the time in the world to shout down the hard work of generations of scientists who wanted to advance human knowledge

congratulations.

Only atheists believe Christian's believe the universe is 6000 years old

Truth is most modern science is based on religion, and most famous thinkers Newton, Lemitre, etc, were very strongly religious.

Science is very good at telling us HOW God chose something to happen, but tells us nothing about WHY.

It's like that quote from Oppenheimer "the first sip from the well of natural sciences will turn you into an Atheist, but God is waiting for you at the bottom of the glass"

Don't let (((others))) think for you OP, you'll grow out of Atheism eventually.

Example two; , the result is the same by using rocks found on earth. You can try this at home, stop being so narrow minded.

Radiocarbon dating*

Your assumption is that God is limited by the speed of light, and couldn't increase it to fit a 7 day window as he Will

But he did when god created trees he did not create the seed he created a full grown 100 year old tree

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Even actual physics suggested that the early universe expanded at greater than the speed of light.

God created a 6 gorillion year old universe roughly 6000 years ago

What kind of dumb religion says that the earth is 6000 years old ?

The point is that your argument "if x is true" first needs to be convincing before you can then go on to what x can *do*.

If a rapist was massless and invisible he could fist all night while you slept without you knowing.

Your argument is unfalsifiable and therefore utterly meaningless, that's the point your missing. Unless you know of a way to possibly demonstrate evidence of a claim that you cannot measure or reproduce?

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>rationalwiki.org/wiki/Goddidit#Goddidit

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>Religious people, if the earth/universe is ≈ 6000 years old.
How can Swedes be this cucked even by American Young Earth Creationists? Christians were warned by the likes of Augustine to beware of literalistic interpretations of Genesis 1500+ years ago. Many, many learned religious have espoused similar views over the centuries. This whole issue is not even integral to faith.

Or to take another example of absurd literalism, God literally sitting on a literal throne. This would imply God is limited and can be fitted into a throne making the throne in some way bigger than God. A throne is made of stuff and is finite. God is infinite and has no body.