This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
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ML uses a philosophy called dialectical materialism, see here:
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It is reccomended that you read some of the critical works of Marxism-Leninism so you can make an informed assessment of the ideology.
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A FUCKING TOOTHPASTE
Sup Forums is, and always will be a natsoc board.
A picture of based communists.
National Socialism or Soviet Communism?
National Socialism.
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If Nazism is better than Communism, why did it lose against Communism?
Checkmate nazi neckbeards
OP did you Know that communism can exist in a free market society in the form of worker owned businesses? Did you also know that such a business is easy to start in this brave new world of low interest rates? If not, then why are you pushing for a violent totalitarian takeover of a system that is tolerant of your ideology to begin with?
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Reminder Marxism-Leninism is outdated.
Reminder the only true form of socialism is Maoism-Third Worldism.
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*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*
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you should read something at least to understand what ML actually is. An interesting and pretty easy to read essay by Lenin on the topic of 'muh equality' is here:
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In it he goes on to explain how Marxist's don't view all human's equal in ability and what they actually believe.
>"Why do capitalist countries thrive and communist countries remain shit?"
Well the USSR didn't remain shit. It did thrive in it's time. Capitalist reforms starting with Khrushchev led to it's eventual degeneration and collapse. And in the USSR and China the people's quality of life, education, health, etc. all improved greatly under socialism.
>"If the world achieved a 'no borders, stateless society' whats stopping people from jsut creating new states?"
In a stateless society with no classes and full social ownership of the productive infrastructure, what would 'creating a new state' actually entail? Creating a new state at that point would entail some segment of the population breaking off economically from the global socialist economy. What would stop them is the rest of the people who liked the idea of having the global socialist state and shared, coordinated industry.
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>6 million vs 56-62 million
>had to have manufacturing base jump started by West to beat the fucking Germans
Oh wow communism is so great, yeah I can't wait to stand in line hoping I can get some fucking bread or goddamn toilet paper. Fucking faggots are just as gay as the other side.
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find your jailfu!
The west helped the soviets only 2 years after Operation Barbarossa began. And it was only logistical help.
The soviets had 80% of the whole wehrmacht on their front.
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>Nazi cuck has no arguments so he posts some Sup Forums tier shit
Sad!
>Mfw England started helping in 1941
In June 1941, within weeks of the German invasion of the USSR, the first British aid convoy set off along the dangerous Arctic sea routes to Murmansk, arriving in September. It was carrying 40 Hawker Hurricanes along with 550 mechanics and pilots of No. 151 Wing to provide immediate air defence of the port and train Soviet pilots.
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By the end of 1941, early shipments of Matilda, Valentine, and Tetrarch tanks represented only 6.5% of total Soviet tank strength, but over 25% of medium and heavy tanks in service with the Red Army.[45][46] First seeing action with the 138 Independent Tank Battalion in the Volga Reservoir on 20 November 1941,[47] Lend-Lease tanks constituted between 30 and 40% of heavy and medium tank strength before Moscow at the beginning of December 1941
Welcome to Sup Forums, now get the fuck back to whatever reddit shithole you came from you filthy subhuman
Significant numbers of British Churchill, Matilda and Valentine tanks were shipped to the USSR along with the US M3 Lee after it became obsolete on the African Front, ceasing production in December 1942 and withdrawn from British service in May 1943.[50] The Churchills, supplied by the arctic convoys, saw action in the Siege of Leningrad and the Battle of Kursk,[51][52] while tanks shipped by the Persian route supplied the Caucasian Front. Between June 1941 and May 1945, Britain delivered to the USSR:
3,000+ Hurricanes
4,000+ other aircraft
27 naval vessels
5,218 tanks
5,000+ anti-tank guns
4,020 ambulances and trucks
323 machinery trucks
2,560 Universal Carriers
1,721 motorcycles
£1.15bn worth of aircraft engines
600 radar and sonar sets
Hundreds of naval guns
15 million pairs of boots
The only based commies are dead commies. Take your filthy kike ideology and get the fuck out. You won't win this board.
So what did you guys eat this morning?
The material delivered by the brits and US was nothing compared what the Soviets were producing
During the war, Soviet factories produced more than 29.1 million small arms of all major types, while only 152,000 small arms (0.5% of the total) were manufactured by American, British, and Canadian plants. Looking at all types of artillery systems of all calibers we see a similar picture – 647,600 Soviet weapons and mortars vs. 9,400 of foreign origin, representing less than 1.5% of the total.
The soviets won the war basically by themselves
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How does that make you feel?
Out of the almost $46 billion that was spent on all lend-lease aid, the US allocated only $9.1 billion, i.e., only a little more than 20% of the funds, to the Red Army, which defeated the vast majority of the divisions from Germany and her military satellites.
Soviets > Germans/Americans
bit strange to be posting an edited picture of an IRA volunteer with that post led
The nazis killed more europeans than the soviets ever dreamed about. How is that compatible with your worldview?
>2016
>people still believing in communism
Einstein was right
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>Believing Soviet propaganda
If communism is so good why dont you go live in Cuba or Venezuela lmao
>believing american propaganda
Pic related
Hollywood is not fact
More like 3-5 million vs 100+ million
>being a pinko while living in a tax haven non-country
laff'd
Producing later in the war, the soviets were losing divisions left and right and their production base was being decimated by the axis domination of the air. The English Aid helped greatly in Moscow defense.
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This describes how much England helped in the battle of Moscow a pivotal point in the Eastern Front.
>would the German have won without the lend lease
Not for sure, in the book "How the Nazi's could have won WW2" it outlines oaths some of the officers wanted to take that would have crippled the Soviet Union bring them to a stalemate most likely. The Soviet Union wasn't invincible.
That's not true capitalism. :^)
You are fucking delusional. Communism has killed and continues to kill more people than Germany ever did. Your ideology is complete garbage. We know you are some fag from reddit trying to upset this board. Its pathetic. Go die in a gulag you pinko commie cocksucker.
WE NAZ-BOL GANG NOW
>not answering me about third worldism
Fuck you.
I'm not saying the U.S. gave the bulk but read "Rise and FALL of the German War Machine" by John Mosier. He lists the vase amounts of supplied that went into the Soviet Union and the parts they played in key battles. The lend lease wasn't something that had no impact. The U.S. didn't save the war either however England played a huge part.
Are Slavs not European?
Marx: The state will wither away.
Lenin: No, that prediction was wrong. My choices on this matter, creating a super state with me in charge, are not choices but dictated by history because I mumbled something about Marx's predictions and dialectics. It's important for everyone to listen to Marx except when I totally contradict him.
Idiots: I am a Marxist-Leninist!
When will you red cunts learn your lesson?
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The quality of the british help was mediocre
>Joseph Stalin who took part in all the negotiations between Soviet leaders and Anglo-American visitors, Stalin was often deeply offended by British actions such as offering obsolete aircraft like the Hurricane as lend-lease handouts, instead of newer fighters like the Spitfire.
The soviet war machine was monstroeus and dwarfed everything known before. They decimated 80% of the wehrmacht while britain and the US were busy with less than 15% of the german wehrmacht on the western front
Hollywood is not reality.
Get the fuck off my board you subhuman communist scum.
The only good red is a dead red.
Rather RED than dead my man
Communism is amazing. It transformed a poor shithole russian empire to a world super power which defeated the strongest army of all times (the german wehrmacht)
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Take your fucking bullshit back to Plebbit, faggot. We already know.
But that empire was shit and authoritarian.
>Russian Empire
>Poor
Choose one
did they invent the weather as well
Wage labor is not exploitative in any way.
What you call surplus value is fair compensation for the risk taken by the capitalist.
>le reddit meme
Hmmm naaaaah
this board ain't your safespace lad
the russian empire in the 1910 after world war 1 was on the brink of collapse and poor as shit.
This isn't Hollywood, the fact of the matter is efforts from the west helped the soviets at the beginning when it mattered. When Soviet production started rolling that was game over. There was no way to halt them after that. Why the west wouldn't have won a war against them after the second world war. There production ability was huge.
Is Saul David Alinsky accepted here?
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Come on then Marxists.
Sell me Communism in one paragraph. Show me why it isn't an unobtainable utopian theory in the same vein as Anarchism.
Only Stalinism, not the jewish shit
>Why the west wouldn't have won a war against them after the second world war.
You are delusional.
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It was unthinkable to win against the soviets after WW2.
Fuck, communist scum. Your subversive tactics will not do this. Sup Forums will ALWAYS be a Nat Soc board.
>rubyridge88
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your efforts are wasted on lebbit though fám, they just hide comments with too many downboats
Get out you communist shitlord.
This board is not your safespace you neckbeard faggot. lmao
>If Nazism is better than Communism, why did it lose against Communism?
Implying the commies would have had won if there wouldn't have been Lend-Lease help waiting in Moscow already.
Commies would have done what they do best.... starving to death.
Into the Trash it goes
That's socialism
The one te Leninism was tried it was quickly ousted into Communism and it will never work.
>Equality
There's no such thing in Marxism/Communism/Leninism.
There will always be someone who must worked the field three times as hard as someone who oversees the field work, yet only receives the same amount of food, or less.
It simply is rouse, the goal of Marxism is to create a small elite who rule over the Proles.
Nature isn't equal and it won't work, ever.
Not worried about that. Made the account solely to leave the one comment, just to let the guy from the previous pic know. They're also buying ad space here, which is a fucking waste, since all of us use adblock.
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Apparently getting the last thread 404'd wasn't enough of a hint. Fuck off lebbit
>What would stop them is the rest of the people who liked the idea of having the global socialist state and shared, coordinated industry.
Nice. Already calling for repression and tyranny in your first, shitty general. Get fucked commie.
Fuck you, commie scum. You bring shame to our country.
Fuck off ledditor. All you are trying to do is shift the base ideology of this board to leftism. It will not work, so stop now
>He's an ancap
Fuck off reddit
>Conflicting opinions? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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It was unthinkable because nobody wanted to continue the war at that point. Also, FDR was straight up delusional with regards to Stalin. He truly believed that Stalin was his friend and that he would be able to influence Stalin into accepting democracy after the war was over. Nothing could be further from the truth. Eisenhower was much less rosy-eyed but he wasn't about to extend the war.
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>landlease made a difference
yeah poor quality trucks and tanks made a big difference against the big difference against the best equiped army of that time (the wehrmacht)
>Commies would have done what they do best.... starving to death.
but it was your people who starved in the cold in stalingrad
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Commiecucks deserve to have their throats slit.
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That's what I just fucking said are you dense? I was talking about how Churchill thought he could.