Why is Sup Forums so extremist and against the most patrician ideology which is libertarianism?

Why is Sup Forums so extremist and against the most patrician ideology which is libertarianism?

There's literally no reason why the government should ever dictate how a person should live as long as it doesn't ruin someone else's life.

>INB4 M-Muh roads!

Because "le altright". Sup Forums used to be as libertarian as it gets.

>radical
>centre

nope, that is not how this works

Abdul Razak Ali Artan

Society needs a point where it dictates decency.

For example, not many would argue that a couple hardcore fucking each other in public should be illegal. At the same time, however, it doesn't really hurt anybody, does it?

Does that mean the government should just look the other way and allow people to fuck each other in public? Personally, I say "no," others would probably come up with an argument as to why it's actually harmful, but to me, that line exists.

That's where libertarianism falls apart for me, personally. I admire its thought process, but it's too idealistic to be practical in most instances.

>no borders lol
I'm a libertarian and this still concerns me. Is there such a thing as libertarianism with borders?

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I'm not against libertarianism, I just think it is misguided to seek it with the world in its current state with the degradation of social cohesion

It's simple, money isn't God. Communism and Capitalism are largely two sides of the same coin, both have a heavy focus on materialism and rejection of the human spirit.

Because human spirit is something that can't be quantified in economic models, citizens don't exist to serve a function and get paid for it, humans are a bit more complex than that.

We need validation, vindication, a purpose. A purpose beyond money. Worshipping money is what the boomer generation did, they slowly destroyed our environment and morals in the pursuit of money. We need to be more intelligent than that.

Centrist should be small head and body desu senpai

I'm not indecisive, I have very strong convictions that fall into a centrist point of view.

Libertarianism is the opposite of patrician. This is not a judgement of its merits but a tautology. It is an idealism which prizes the mythical values of freedom and equality over all else. These are literally the aspirational values of the lower classes, the plebeians who see arbitrary power as wicked by definition.

Sup Forums doesn't like it because much of Sup Forums is white identity politics and so they like strong borders and cultural identity which tend to strengthen the position of their ideals and these things are altogether incompatible with libertarianism.

Radical centrism does involve convictions and beliefs though.

>The "radical" in the term refers to a willingness on the part of most radical centrists to call for fundamental reform of institutions.[3] The "centrism" refers to a belief that genuine solutions require realism and pragmatism, not just idealism and emotion.[4] Thus one radical centrist text defines radical centrism as "idealism without illusions".[5][nb 1]

>Most radical centrists borrow what they see as good ideas from left, right, and wherever else they may be found, often melding them together.[1] Most support market-based solutions to social problems with strong governmental oversight in the public interest.[7] There is support for increased global engagement and the growth of an empowered middle class in developing countries.[8] Many radical centrists work within the major political parties, but also support independent or third-party initiatives and candidacies.[9]

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libertarianism is impossible

National Libertarianism

It's possible, but not today.
You need agrarians, a low population, and no electricity.

if you don't like libertarianism you are a cuck who wants your government master's to control everything

Hoppe libertarianism.

> libertarian
> not classical liberal

>Libertarianism with non whites and non white immigrants

94% of Libertarians are WHITE.

but the ultimate top-tier is still anarchy. all non anarchists are cucks that are afraid of darwin's law

Libertarianism is just anarchy for the wealthy. It is just as stupid and unworkable.

>dude if people can't make money they should die lmao

"The state is the ultimate manifestation of a people's will to survive".

>le eternal centrist

KYS

libertarianism is a tool of the jews

what's the matter cucky afraid of some survival of the fittest?

Can someone edit the right and put this in its place?

Second thread with the same image. You Correct the Record folks really are going all out today.

it's not about money, it's about having no laws or government so that the weak will be murdered and only the strong will triumph

Only anarchy and lawlessness truly exists everything else is an illusion

No it doesn't. There would be no public spaces so the owners (who want to maximize property value) would decide if people can fuck or not.

Yeah I used to be a "centrist" too
But somewhere in the last ten years the whole line shifted so hard to the left that I'm now classified as "6 million literal hitlers" even though my views have changed little

This. So important! This is the Libertarian Party's fault, everyone thinks libertarians are a bunch of cucks when we're actually darwinistic af.

Why not just be a national socialist than? Degenerates are either made into decent human beings or put to work.

Or even a Hoppe Libertarian? Degenerates would be literal pieces of property if I remember correctly. But Hoppe proposes a monarchy as a government.

Anarchy would lead to certain key influencers (more than likely Jews, control a lot of money) eliminating all opponents to them. Not necessarily "weak" opponents, just people that don't follow their doctrine.

The fuck do you even mean by "strong eliminate the weak" anyway?

This.
I personally don't care about people fucking in public, I don't feel that it hurts me, but the point is what constitutes injury.
Not many would disagree that there should be a force to compel people not to injure one another. The libertarians want to believe that we all agree on what harm is, but they have already assumed that most others are thinking the same way. I'm sure there are many green anarchists who wouldn't find it too radical to prosecute people for smoking or eating meat, because of the environmental effects. There must be some cohesion. You can work your way down from those outlandish examples (that make the best anarcho memes) all the way back down to who pays for roads.

reminder

Sup Forums is a libertarian board.

There was a large poll last week and libertarianism was number one followed by I think nat soc

Hoppe argued that monarchy is preferable to a democracy since it's a private form of government. He still criticised it.

user, Brazil could've been great today if they had followed this fascist.

me on the right

The purpose of the state is to enforce morality on the masses who are incapable of the higher level of thinking required to be a moral, contributing member of society.
Libertarianism works great if only intelligent, moral people make up the community. But that's not the case.

>centerlets, when will they learn

It's a myth that the lines have shifted all that much. There never was a centrist block. It's just that the radical left has become bigger and gained more influence. Their arguments are mostly the same, with the sole exception of identity politics, it's just that they can be more vocal about their views now that mainstream society has moved to the left and they have the power to define morals.

I mean, if you watch that old show "All in the Family", you'll notice that the left-wing hippies, particularly Michael Stivic, are identical to modern day cucks. The arguments are exactly the same. They even had an episode with a tranny who was murdered by nazis, and this was in the mid-70s. Just replace Nixon with Bush or Trump, Puerto Ricans with spics, and the Vietnam War with the shit going on in the middle east.

I hate all government and laws. i especially hate that it is illegal to murder.

thats the problem
everything ruins someone elses life

>libertarianism
>radical centrist
kys
Libertarianism is only "centrist" and "socially liberal, economically conservative" in libertarian propaganda made to appeal to retards

Centrism: A wants to gas 6 million jews, B wants to gas 0, so we should gas 3 million so we're not radicals.

It's this level of retardation

Google Hoppe, Lew Rockwell open borders.

Yes.

Brazil is shit because of state control.

"Le altright"
Anyone who identifies as that should day of the rope themselves

read Hans Herman Hoppe

>Timmy just turned 15... and he decided not to go to school anymore
>He hates his parents because they made him an ugly virginal manlet
>He sees the people bullying him at school and he concludes that the strong should slay the weak
>Yeah... there is no Government, I'll grab my sword and kill Jason now

i know a faggot who does and he always brags about using Sup Forums where all his cool and smart alt right friends are
it's pretty cringey

I'm 6 feet

This drawing implies that bigger is better. I, as a man of small penis, find this highly offensive.

Faggots like you would be used as currency in an anarchy.

Yeah, because you know anything about me. you must be butthurt that i think murder is good because that is threatening to your people's society of rich spoiled beta cucks

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>sitting in a land protected by government owned borders
>while typing on a computer that uses parts that were imported on a foreign government shipping route
>on an ISP funded by the government( don't even try and debate this, you are a leaf and therefore are subject to our shitty internet)

It's easy to get butthurt about what i'm saying when you have been sheltered and fed from a silver spoon your whole life
you never had to fight for survival in your damn life rich boy

scandinavians come from good roots but good times make for soft men and thats what you are cuckfag

Now I feel legitimately dumb.

Centrists are the lowest IQ political group.

You can't convey your thoughts in a single post with proper punctuation, and you expect us to believe that you're either a powerful landlord, an entrepreneur or a financial speculator, the kind of people who would actually survive anarchy.

Yeah, I'm going to have to express disbelief at that notion.

You had to reply twice, huh?
It's not exactly hard to spot the autism through your posts. In fact, you're so aggressively edgy that you sound like a caricature, and it's difficult to tell whether or not you're a troll.