Did he single-handedly destroy the Alt-Right?
New movements are extremely fragile, and fail on a regular basis because of stupid shit. His "Hail Victory" speech could well go down as the moment when the Alt-Right gave up its chances of ever making inroads with ordinary White Americans.
Who is this user?
I don't recognize him....
no. he just exposed it to millions of people. Trust Spencer, he knows what he's doing.
inb4 >t. trs shill
>implying that wasn't the purpose of the "alt-right" to begin with.
Set a target, attach a face to it and then hope that the faceless nameless nationalist movement goes down with him.
>Did he single-handedly destroy the Alt-Right?
>implying the alt-right was nothing more than neets irl larping as nazis
>implying it wasn't the most retarded and weak "movements" in the history of mankind
DID you not read the OP?
that shit is not sticking withb ordinairy people.
you guys should let civic nationalism play out, if it fails people would go even more right
but nope faggots jumped the gun as usual
Well Alt-Right is absolutely nothing except White Nationalism, and us White Nationalists weren't even remotely harmed. So no. He didn't destroy anything.
Glad we could clear that up.
Richard Spencer doesn't speak for us
Only Kek speaks for us
a fag, that is all you need to know
kek says you're a faggot
Nah it'll be fine provided they continue to frame it as pro-white interest instead of anti-minority interest and keep reminding people of the anti-whiteness of the last 8 years and the fact that Europe was fucking invaded last year and so Whites no longer have a place to call their own
Trump's victory destroyed the Alt-Right. CNN was looking to slap back after getting rekt.
Change the names all you want: Identity politics is here to stay. What's interesting is how the left finally convinced white people to consider their own interests.
I actually think that whole shit just strengthened our resolve, whether you identify "us" as the "alt-right" or not
>ordinary white Americans
Ordinary white Americans don't give a shit about anything other than sportsball and TV. Same here too. You aren't going to get 150 million people behind you nor do you need to in order to have a cultural effect.
the problem is that he is a decent guy but a terrible leader.
The "alt right" lacks people who are willing to be spokesman for it so you end up with a few mildly autistic guys like spencer representing.
Fuck off shill, people can recognise Spencer being a retard and still support white interests
Fuck off, kike. There are no leaders. Can you name the person that coined "Republican"? No? That's how much Spencer matters to the Alt-Right. A name doesn't mean anything.
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>The "alt right" lacks people who are willing to be spokesman for it
>you need leaders so we can destroy them in the public, goyim
I love how the shill tactic is to question our normie appeal. I suppose they're trying to make us divide into apologists vs militant assholes or something.
Except the normies are flocking here, 8, reddit, and voat because we knew everything. And they knew nothing. It just seems like a really feeble, ineffective shill play.
"Look at us triggering you fools like dogs (and pay no mind to our boss and establishment going down for every corruption charge imaginable plus baby raping). We're political operatives(durrrrrrrr)."
God I hope so
i didnt say leaders fag. just people who are more charismatic to represent when the media sheds light on it.
you cant be 100% grassroots or whatever and expect for it to stay that way. either continue to grow until it gains power or watch it wither away and die.
Have you faggots learnt nothing?
Groveling and apologizing on behalf someone else and cowering when labeled is the very reason the left was able to shut down conversations and get their way for such a long time.
Grow some balls you plebbit faggot
are you trying to brawl:?
shut up bitch ill come to your house and fucking knock your head into orbit bitch
The alt-right needed to be killed. Now we can go back to the safety of darkness while the media celebrates a faux-victory.
JIDF already got caught red handed posting the politics strawpoll and yet Fascist+NatSoc beat almost all the other categories combined, and I could point out how 9/10 of the 1919 German communist revolution leaders were Jewish, how affirmative action was a Jewish creation in both Canada and in the USA, how they opened our borders, how the lawsuits that allowed near unrestricted abortion in our countries were both lead by kikes hell I could even lay out the thousands of hooked noses behind the drug/porn/tranny degeneracy they target our children with. But I won't. Rather i'll ask that whenever someone in this thread witnesses societal/political rot to ask yourself, and don't be afraid to do some digging if necessary, if a certain sunken eyed inbred tribe is behind it.
Sup Forums calls this 'taking the redpill' and it ruins everyone as it's impossible to stop seeing the (((coincidences)))
There never was an alt-right. It's a meme. That dude just got some (you)s for some lonely Neo Nazis that needed some attention.
>Did he single-handedly destroy the Alt-Right?
Yes. By allowing himself to get BTFO by a nigger:
This.
While I agree that there wasn't anything "real" about the alt-right movement in general, Spencer did single handily kill a potential movement that had the ability of possibly gaining traction further down the road.
Why can't we ever have someone go about something like this in a better way? Shit, it's like they all want to be the next Hitler something.
>everyone thinks i'm a nazi
>im gonna act like a nazi ironically, theyll get it
i've never seen such a blatant display of autism. it would have been less autistic if he started screaming for legos.
People are gonna call you a Nazi in politics. But don't play the role they want you to play. Altright is now associated with neo-nazism forever and ever. This was the equivalent of the dean scream. The right will live. But you should stay away from spencer. You don't want even a hint of nazism in your movement. Nazism is a failed brand with years of indoctrination behind it. Don't even joke about it or youll lose the normies and stay forever with autistic larpers like the WN of the 90s
Hahaha
A limp-wristed leaf threatening an Afrikaner with physical violence.
It is like George Takei threatening anybody.
It saddens me that you would not actually come all this way to get fucked up.
To be honest, the larpy haircut was a red flag.
he didnt get BTFO. but he definetly shouldnt have said egyptians were white. that was some KANGZ tier shit.
Can someone please ask him how much he sold out to the MSM for at one of his next speaking engagements?
Latest podcast is w/ Mike Enoch
>hey guys lets get the soft right to attack the far right to totally prove to all those leftists that we're more like them!
>yeah! for some reason I really give a shit how much approval I receive from my enemy!
fucking brilliant strategic minds on display over this last week. about ready 2 give up
donald trump needed his 'sister souljah' 'moment'
Hope, yeah, but no - we're woke, Spencer or no. And Spencer didn't do the waking - Obama, visible demographic changes, Sup Forums, Steve Sailer, therightstuff.biz - All this has cut into biological, territorial instincts. No-one can hope to 'New Man' this away. The Trump election showed us how many others feel the same. That's something that won't end even when Trump finally goes away.
The whole Spencer debacle has shown pol to be no better than v was against the gayergater detractors. People falling for the same disavow your leader bullshit.
Also why all the TRS hate? TDS and FTN are bloody great. Also convict report.
Saged and hidden for Spencerposting.
If you are not a shill, read the verdict at Heartiste: we are not mad, but neither was this the most helpful thing.
>some guy most people neither knew nor cared about destroyed a movement because news stations said so
>just like how Trump lost the election because news stations said he would
Fuck off Shlomo.
Serious question: How can you destroy something that doesn't exist?
It really gets the old synapses firing. The NPI is probably 50% fed. The white nationalists are jumping on a meme (its a literal meme) and claiming it to be some sort of intellectual movement, comprised of the intellectually disillusioned. They claim to be the organizers of this movement. They claim it is a pro-white movement.
And here some anons are, condemning or praising something that doesn't exist. What is the "alt-right"?
It's no label I've used or would ever use in public. Does it even broadly define a group of identifiable people? No. And it creeps me out when people go in for that sort of thing. I'm no more of a white nationalist than a Japanese man is a yellow nationalist.
I advocate for sovereignty, self determination and fighting the rampant antisocial tendencies the so called elite are forcing on their people. If that is what you would call "alt-right", that's fine. Its just a word. But its nothing I have called myself or would. I call it sanity, or foresight, things of that nature. But never """"""alt-right""""""""
No he separated the cucks from the alt-right
Richard Spencer did nothing wrong.
>The NPI is probably 50% fed.
Stopped reading there.
>tfw you better start believing in leftypol shill threads
>he doesn't know
Every single one of these types of groups are targeted by the feds. It is not a bullshit meme. Of course the proportion isn't 50%.
But organize an even perceptibly intellectually competent, pro-white effort and they will observe. You'll never know who it is either. It's like The Thing, and you're MacGreedy. You don't even know if you're the Thing or not user.
He killed a label his masters made up
We're going to keep doing what we do regardless
He accomplished jack shit
Stop it, he didn't make a Nazi salute, and he's not a National Socialist. He made a stirring speech with a toast, and it was /other/, young, some stupid and some who should have known better, people who did the 'heil'ing.
honestly, this
the alt-right behind trump was always racist and anti-semitic. Infowars and etc were all just piggybacking for views without dropping the biggest redpills so as to not ruffle any feathers
breitbart, alex jones, paul watson, mike cernovich, etc have never been the backbone of the movement
Yet they were all more effective, critical even, and less sperg than stormfront circle jerks. And they are all nationalists.
Really makes you think (that the alt-right doesn't exist).
Become better men and embrace the chaos bros. It got us a lot further than we ever have, because we weren't dwelling on things that are pointless in the big picture.
>stormfront reference
>alt right doesnt exist
>"we" rhetoric
hello r/donald
Cool it with the concern trolling.
The eternal normie no longer gives moral weight to lugenpresse kvetching. We won, and we will keep on winning.
No, but he gave us a few lulz.
The ability to label everything right of Mao as "alt-right" won't work.
The left are now waking up on the wrong side of history.
They are now back to being fringe weirdos disliked by the normies.
It would be like us trying to label anything right of Hitler as SJW.
People laughed.
Now people laugh at the left.
So, whatever, go and JUST Richard Spergy Spencer up.
The growing intolerance of leftist faggotry will continue unabated.
The fact that the media is giving so much attention to a rally of 400 fucking people as though it were some kind of tide sweeping the nation is fucking pathetic and obviously planned. He doesn't even need to be a knowing plant, just some idiot who thinks he can take credit for an ethereal online movement, not knowing he's playing right into their hands.
Personally, I don't see any reason why a modern day nationalist movement HAS to be racially based, but either way, the only place where organizing such a movement has been the internet and the moment you take anything but planned, well-organized action off the internet, you're vulnerable. The more followers this guy attracts, the more the media is going to be able to point its finger at them and say "see? Trump voters ARE nazis!" as though empty rhetoric could compare to their fucking crimes.
Hopefully the average douche bag is woke enough to see through it.
>Sup Forums is le alt-right
wrongo
I only went on reddit to check out a few comedy pages. It is PC AIDS. Though, judging by the suppression I read on some breads, even reddit was more of a critical player than the WN circle jerks.
I'm not shilling, just being a realist. The neonazi look is not a good one desu. I will still defend Spencer intellectually, if I ever find myself in the situation. But intellectual honesty, redpilling the normal faggots and demoralizing the degenerate leftists is and for the foreseeable future will remain far more important than muh white homeland hurr durr arguments.
If Spencer was more intellectually capable and less sperg, he would have destroyed that black reporter. I don't even agree with his points, but it was an unprecedentedly weak performance against a remarkably. simple minded journalist. not nimble/10 #notmyleader and >fuckingcringe.jpg
That fucking retard who ran while saluting is the one who ruined the conference. If a handful of people just raised their hand, it would have been taken as a joke. But when that kid sperged out it made it look out of control. Seriously though, why the hell did he do that?
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Daily reminder that stormfags have no idea what they are doing and are several Ds behind in the chess game.
This. They think everyone will think as they do, failing to realize that the MOST IMPORTANT objective is redpilling normies, getting them on our side, and removing them from their liberal brainwashing. Too much extremity too fast will cause them to jolt back into their deep brainwashing. Stormfags need to STFU so the adults who have a clue can make some real progress
>Alt-Right
bye rddit
Damn. This comic should be pinned to the Sup Forums homepage.
Daily reminder that the lugenpresse's narrative is objectively false
it's not useful for advocating a literal white homeland it's about raising the awareness that white people have a prerogative to use identity politics just like every other race has for the past several decades
and he did destroy the "reporter". that wasn't even a real news show as far as I can tell, he just sat there laughing at the idiot which was as much consideration as he deserved.
Kek's done a shitload of stuff you can't do this year.
>even reddit was more of a critical player than the WN circle jerks.
what circle jerks are you referring to? where?
>The neonazi look is not a good one desu.
are you talking about the trashy guys with tattoos? or simply anyone that recognizes nazi germany wasnt >le evil incarnate?
>muh white homeland hurr durr
Europe is unquestionably white homeland. coming from someone who doesnt really care about "white" as much as nations and their native ethnic groups.
and what about the tactics in the middle, which call out bullshit like importing a foreign race into europe?
fucks sake bow tie guy hasn't ever actually done anything in this cartoon in the real world
Fuck a label or an official movement. I just want ordinary Americans to reject PC doublethink bullshit and vote for their own interests as well as their vision for the country.
>Did he single-handedly destroy the Alt-Right?
he took the b8 and fucked his entire life up for it
the alt right does not exist
it can't be said enough
Whose dick are you trying to suck though? The media doesn't differentiate between the two, in fact they'll use their newspeak term "dog whistling" to say they're actually the same.
Wrong. Activating White racial consciousness is what gave Trump and our movement all its energy. Projecting weakness and racial self-loathing wins nothing but contempt. There is nothing attractive about weakness and putting out-groups interests above your own in-group, it's just weak.
The future is in all those White kids chanting "Build That Wall" at the Hispanic kids when their schools played sport, because Trump had activated their White racial group consciousness, and become their White racial group champion.
Having pride and strength in a collective White in-group feels good, and that is the energy that propels our support and advancement.
the alt right is alive and well kiddo, fuck the civic nationalist, lets do hitler salutes and use nazi youth haircuts, this will awake everyone to race reality.
Fear not, for God is my strength and my salvation!
Be vanquished, foul demon!
>are you talking about the trashy guys with tattoos? or simply anyone that recognizes nazi germany wasnt >le evil incarnate?
>what circle jerks are you referring to? where?
The circle jerks I'm referring to involve the people who subscribe the the notion of the alt-right even fucking existing. I am pissed off at the way things are, too. But putting yourself under that label is really, really fucking stupid.
Globalists win elections consistantly, because they weaponize the cucks, the women, even our own children and families against us. They convince them we are inheritantly evil and manipulated.
The only reason we won this election is because we followed a Saul Alinskey tier subversive formula, and, when we didn't, we were aware of of the bullshit tactics the press were using. We had pleanty of evidence to meme.
It was not because of the NPI, but more critical players who could actually make an impact.
>Europe is unquestionably white homeland. coming from someone who doesnt really care about "white" as much as nations and their native ethnic groups.
I completely, 100% agree. But these people who the media are trying to pass as neo nazis, do actually, unironically believe that is our destiny. I wouldn't have any problem with it irl, but it makes anyone who dissents to the libshit madness look unnecessarily bad.
See this dude's pic related:
I think that there is room for both. Have the civic nationalist to appeal to normies, have the angry out white nationalists to convert people online and drive the conversation right. 'Hail Trump' may have been a mistake, but it sure as hell got a ton of press and made 'alt-right' a household name.
>Wrong. Activating White racial consciousness is what gave Trump and our movement all its energy.
Maybe on a very intutive level, for a solid percentage of normal faggots. And certainly for memes. But not for fucking government policy. You're unironically playing into the (((narrative))), which doesn't even need to happen user. But they want it to, they need it to, because they have nothing lef to fight with.
Don't be an accidental 5th column guise.
alt right never existed
The Holocaust never existed, but it should have.
This goy gets it
There's a difference between projecting weakness and conscientiously playing your hand. What mostly said. It's against our interests to project deep racial redpilling too early. The public image is that of civic nationalism along with refusing to denounce or step away from pride in oneself and ones people. But online, in the open market of ideas, we drop our purest redpills. I'm half Ashkenazi by blood (practicing Catholic) my friend, I know how to persuade people.
t. only voice of reason in my cancerous university classes. have already began redpilling classmates, made my professors look like fools, and turned a feminist misandrist into my submissive bitch who likes it when I slap her around
We are anti-Semitic yes, but Stormfags are low IQ sperglords who don't know when to shut the fuck up. We are waging a war of deception and then literal faggots like Richard Spencer go out in public (in front of his Jewish, brown, and other non-white supporters) and yell "Hail Victory!" like a fucking autist.
more redpilled ms paint drawing i have ever seen
The Semitic Aryan strikes again.
>get /fit/ and lift heavy
>read, study, debate
>get your shit together
>fight the cancer that is globalism
>demoralize the degenerates
This is really all we absolutely have to do, and its a lot to ask of a man in this age of butthurt numale faggotry. It won't always be comfy, basically. But its all that is critical for now.
you're about 3 steps behind
there is absolutely 0 chance of a single thing happening in that comic without a majority of whites supporting it. there is not going to be enforcement of the border unless whites want mexicans to stop coming into the country.
David Duke
Did none of you faggots learn anything from Trump's campaign? This is literally "Increasingly Nervous Man: Alt Right Edition".
Why are you obsessed with this faggot?
How can you be this simple minded
4. Let's say ideally you want to go north. Trump and Steve Bannon's ship will successfully take you 400 miles north-north west, against prevailing winds pushing you to the south.
Richard Spencer's ship will set their rudder in the pure north direction but remain totally stationary, and actually start drifting south due to the prevailing winds.
This is the choice you have right now. Go many steps in the right direction by winning back ground in the culture war and supporting Trump and Bannon's civic nationalism, reduced immigration, anti-globalism, anti PC culture, anti islam ( ALL IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT IT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO WIN)
Or go 0 steps in the "pure " direction with no pragmatism by trying to do what white nationalists have been trying for the last 30 years while they have lost ground more and more and more.
which is the more pragmatic, sensible strategy that will actually achieve something and improve the situation?
i'm simple minded because i'm calling out the fact that everything on the left side of that comic will never happen in your lifetime under the current paradigm?
>The only reason we won this election is because we followed a Saul Alinskey tier subversive formula, and
hold on autist. you're referring to a very small proportion of voters. keep in mind that the average voter seriously does not give a shit about most of this. left wing or right wing. they just vote on a few very mainstream ideas and continue their life.
and when it comes to labels i largely agree. the thing is. you're going to get labeled regardless by opposition if they feel threatened. "alt right" was a way for guys who would otherwise be disregarded as nazis and white supremicists to gain traction with more mainstream people.
id say a good 90% of normies hear either of those terms about a person and they wont even bother hearing them out.
>I completely, 100% agree. But these people who the media are trying to pass as neo nazis, do actually, unironically believe that is our destiny. I wouldn't have any problem with it irl, but it makes anyone who dissents to the libshit madness look unnecessarily bad.
i see what you're saying. but its pretty much the one issue that shouldn't be strayed from
desu i hate even talking about race. i think its too general of a concept. but its better than seeing Europe become all mixed up with people who will just turn the continent into shit. America is a lost cause in that regard. unless the country were to fall apart.
Just be ready to oppose Trump if he cuts a deal that gives us a wall and increases illegal deportations in exchange for increased legal immigration. Where we want to be is a total reform of the immigration system that reduces legal immigration of nonwhites significantly.
Its not a fucking fact. The media is using old, dirty tactics to fight the meme war. They need people to advocate for a white homeland, and celebrate "muh genius of Europeans" (I actually believe its true, but its not an argument).
They need a bad goy. You don't have to self cuck at all, in fact. Maybe this whole thing will turn out to be a good move, idk. But you shouldn't play into their hands.
We don't need to inflame the racial shit for now. That stage has passed. Going hardmode on demoralizing the sociologist types would be the wisest strategy at this point imo. They still are powerful, and in control of a lot.
america is already sailing off a cliff. the current population can't sustain a functioning society, and the different groups are going to tear it apart. neither of your either or options would save it anyway.
Controlled opposition.
>Its not a fucking fact.
it's a figure of speech autist.
there's no reason for you to concern yourself about people generating momentum for white identity support. it's clearly not something you are that interested in so just don't involve yourself.
Agree with both of you lads. Civic Nationalism, that doesn't strongly counter-signal ethno-nationalism, can serve as a useful tactic while others drive the Overton Window rightward. Civic Nationalism will always be a de facto White ethno-nationalism anyway, only Whites will be attracted to it in numbers.
As long as it doesn't strongly counter-signal White ethno-nationalism it's very useful. It deflects most of the initial harshness and mental defences to entho-nationalism, and gives minority unicorns a theoretical place at our table rather than serving as rhetorical standard-bearers for the Left.
(((They're))) weaker than you think. Without White guilt and self-loathing there arguements don't have any sway outside of other racial . By demolishing White guilt and replacing it with racial self-pride you demolish the Left's ability to function outside of minority ethnic identity.
