Why do y'all love Castro so much but hate on Duterte?
>Both of them rule over island nations that used to be America's whipping boy. >Both of them replaced incompetent and autocratic US-backed leadership. >Both of them vowed to cleanse undesirables (drug dealers/Batista supporters) with some success. >Both of them gravitated towards the Russo-Sino axis after telling Washington to fuck off. >Both of them are supported and liked by a majority of their nation both politically and as a personality.
Why is one island autocrat getting so much sympathy while the other isn't?
Not a liberal and don't give a shit about your question.
Mentioning Duterte, did he actually kill all the criminals he had rounded up? I need to know if he is the most based chink ever.
Adrian Jackson
Duterte isn't a commie fucktard who pointed warheads at our shore. Next question
Aaron Moore
His death squads have killed around 5,000. Some 700,000 people have surrendered. Even the Commies pitch in to kill drug dealers
Evan Hughes
Duterte is based. Castro is a pile of commie garbage, speak for yourself burger.
Austin Miller
I support Trump
But Duterte is doing street executions. That's fucked up.
Castro is trash too.
Noah Cruz
>trying to force the Sup Forums likes castro lie Castro is hated because he us a stupid commie Duterte is based because eh kills crimminals and doesnt afraid of anything
Aiden Bennett
What I'm trying to figure out is why pol hates Castro so much but loves Ghaddaffi. They're both more or less the same type of dictator.
Jordan Hernandez
>But Duterte is doing street executions. That's fucked up.
This. Any user that thinks he is really great is just a bloodthirsty child who tries too hard to impress other bloodthirsty children in their echo-chamber.
There needs to be respect for the rule of law. This guy OK'd mass civilian murder against their fellow man.
He is a genuine psychopath.
Eli Ross
I'd rather he kill these hooligans than me getting stabbed and stolen from while walking the streets.
It's been safer to actually go out in public these days.
Cameron Reed
Because pol is america and Castro was their nightmare for decades.
Jaxson Martinez
Castro is great.
Duterte had a good political past of being straight shooter and a man of action, But we're yet to see if he delivers as a president.
Ryan Gomez
I'm a communist and I support both of them.
Adam Gomez
Can you tell some more? What are the most obvious differences from the pre-Du30 era in day-to-day life?
I'm curious
Gabriel Cook
I never said Sup Forums liked Castro, but you'd definitely see Castro apologists on HuffPoo and the Guardian who fit the profile.
Oliver Cooper
He does give you an option to rehab which a lot of those crooks did and if you refuse then you deserve to be shot
Kayden Ramirez
Ever been there? I have, drugs, theievs, people trying to sell you kids. It needs to be cleaned up.
Hes trying, it gets messy when you clean up shit.
James Price
Most criminals are those who fought back. Lots of the dead from the non-police """"""""""""""vigilante""""""""""""""" killings are done by people in the same industry or crooked cops trying to cover their tracks due to the focus in eliminating corruption from the police force and government.
Ryan Taylor
Before Duterte, you'd have degenerates size you up when you walk outside at night, crime is rampant, basically an undisciplined shithole.
Right now, everyone who used to have a deplorable life are scared shitless of getting killed. People here are slowly getting disciplined because the law is now being used as a boogeyman, where as before the police would be unreliable as fuck chinese-tier lack of empathy.
Dominic Richardson
because a lot of pol is european
Kevin Bennett
Duterte is a fascist who loves Trump and apartheid Israel. Castro was a revolutionary anti-imperialist leader.
So quickly? He's just been in power for some months now hasn't he?
When was the first time you started to notice differences?
Cooper Reyes
>Both of them rule over island nations that used to be America's whipping boy.
U.S. has went out of its way a few times to defend the Philippines. Obama has recoiled on defending their trade routes and fishing rights because he doesn't want to upset the Islamic rise in the Southeast Asia. His excuse is TPP and that it would help smaller nations in on pacific trade
>Both of them replaced incompetent and autocratic US-backed leadership.
Since the American-Philippine War, they have always had democratic elections.
>Both of them vowed to cleanse undesirables (drug dealers/Batista supporters) with some success.
Castro never vowed that, instead he flooded Florida with inmate from his prisons, helping Miami become the drug capital of the world.
>Both of them gravitated towards the Russo-Sino axis after telling Washington to fuck off.
Castro was a commie before he came to power. The Philippines have gone to Russia and China numerous times, nothing pans out because Philippines never want to get rid of their republic.
>Both of them are supported and liked by a majority of their nation both politically and as a personality.
Castro conquered Cuba with less than 6% of the population in his favor. His first command after becoming dictator was mass extermination of those who didn't flee and did not support him.
Jordan Brooks
People were already getting scared right before the elections. Some of them already tried to change their way of life to prepare for the inevitable.
When he won it was basically like pouring hot water over an ant hill. Like what was mentioned in the thread, alot of druggies surrendered and went to rehab than die. The reports of killings are drug syndicates killing people in fear of getting snitched out on.
Most of the working class I've talked to voted for "the bloody candidate", as they put it. People here are getting tired of oligarchs running the government and having their way.
Josiah Jenkins
>Police and Govt officials are much harder to bribe than before. >Drug prices skyrocketed in Du30 administration due to lack of supply. >Some "unsustainable" business practices are slowly being removed. This POV is from an upper middle class guy. Can't say much about the streets or poorer neighborhoods without talking out of my ass because I don't commute or walk.
Evan Diaz
>Why do y'all love Castro so much but hate on Duterte? Pretty sure we dislike them both. There may have been some literal communists back in the day who liked Castro, but they were a small minority and are even more nonexistent now.
Not that fucking plantation owners are much better, mind you.
I don't know where this shit comes from. My guess: >conservative shill make strawman of "libruls luv Castro!!1" >conservative plebs believe shills >plebs repeat retarded strawmen >this gives them so much pleasure they made Sup Forums This literally explains 2/3 of US politics now, unfortunately.
Jaxon Wilson
Nice. That sort of supports my theory that it's useless for some people to say ''oh well [candidate] couldn't change THAT, that's just impossible'', because the psychological and cultural shift effect of such a change is far more powerful than many of the purely governmental changes such a candidate can achieve.
The same can be seen with the economic surge post-Brexit referendum (even though GB is still part of the EU so nothing real has changed as of yet) and Trump getting so much done after his election victory whilst he's more than two months away from his first day as actual president.
Chase Martin
>fATp4Hwe >fAT
kek
Lincoln Moore
You serious nigger? Leftist kikes forget that the Cubans that live in Cuba are the ones who aren't clever/connected enough to escape.
Asher Miller
"Change is coming"
That's Duterte's campaign slogan.
>mfw we'll all make it somehow
Austin Peterson
>Pinochet >Not americas whipping boy
He was funded and installed by CIA.
Gavin Johnson
It will come. Duterte is part of the same movement as Trump, Brexit and the rise of European nationalism.
You are blessed to be a part of its beginning. It could be a while before it comes to the Netherlands, establishment has a firm grip here
Joshua Cruz
If you think only a small fringe are Castro/Chavez apologists you have sadly mistaken. Most of the media don't even use the "d-word" and even entrepreneurship sites like Hacker News called him "complicated" rather than straight up criticize him.
people were murdering and kidnapping businessmen in broad daylight.
you should read about when he was still a mayor of a city in the hellhole that is mindanao >criminals kidnap rich businesswoman >said woman had an idea to make the kidnappers take her to Duterte's city by saying she can only give them money there >intelligence got information about the movement of this criminals >kidnappers and woman are now at the bank >a few minutes later police have surrounded the bank outside >give ultimatum >criminals won't budge >firefight commences which kills all of the criminals >businesswoman is safe and alive >only a few injured policemen
Gabriel Jenkins
Duterte was democratically elected, and Castro took power from a coup.
There's the difference.
Juan Mitchell
They both suck. What's your point. You guys always make these wild baseless accusations about all liberals like you did a survey or something.
Aiden Thompson
>Castro became a lawyer, a fantastic achievement, most uni/college students would be proud to achieve it if took their whole lives >Then, Castro formed and led a militia, that became strong enough to rival and eventually over throw his country, an achievement any keen young revolutionary would be happy to achieve if it took their whole lives >Then installs himself President, something any citizen would strive for, even if it took their whole life >turned an illiterate island Vegas into most doctors per capita and most uni students per capita >He defended his tiny country against an invasion by the worlds strongest (granted they used cuban traitors as soldiers) >CIA tried to wack this guy over 600 times, in response he smoked cigars in the UN >would have started WW3 before he took shit from anyone
Politics aside, He was a true alpha, and deserves respect.
Duterte is a pair of flapping lips at best, who barely holds power over what is essentially a humid as fuck ghetto surrounded by jungle his one claim to fame is that when he couldve get a handle of violent crime, he decided to "sanction" it, to cover up his failure
Luis Sullivan
One of my favorite quotes, abridged, is that politics doesn't change culture, but rather, culture sets the political stage. Our problem right now is that western culture has been utterly subverted by (((them))) to artificially mirror the status quo that leads to the fall of all great civilizations; degeneracy, decadence, and corruption. Trump is already changing our culture, it's beautiful. People aren't afraid of being called racist, or Islamophobic, or whatever the buzzword-of-the-week is anymore. That's the first step.
Grayson Gray
if you think those "surrendered" numbers arent fudged and that the 5000 killed are 'dug dealers' and not people that were owed money
then i put it to you, that youve never left your home country and have no idea about the goings on of the third world
Colton Garcia
Wait, so who owes the "drug dealers" money?
Adrian Bell
So he should be more welcomed.
Ayden Diaz
I agree. Bright times are ahead
Chase Robinson
Liberals hate Castro. They just knee-jerk reacted to Trump tweeting about it, like the idiot sheeple they are.
If you meant leftists, its because he's not a leftist. Like, that's literally it.
Kevin Edwards
>Wait, so who owes the "drug dealers" money? smaller drug dealers
its anyone who owes anyone money, >live in slum >owe land lord back rent >fallen on hard times, no money atm >land lord hitting me up for the monies >kill him and leave a piece of cardboard on his body denoting him as a drug dealer >case closed
Noah Peterson
>why pol hates Castro so much but loves Ghaddaffi
Both were fucked, but Gaddafi was at the very least effective. And he didn't trap his people inside the country, they were free to fuck off. Havana hasn't changed in 50 years aside from becoming a more derelict version of itself.
Gaddafi turned his country into the best country in Africa while Castro ranted about how his ideology would work if the Americans would open trade. Just fucking go to Cuba. It's like being in the 50s with flip phones.
You can respect someone who's fucked up, yet effective in an unstable part of the world.
Ethan Nguyen
Stop endorsing communist tyrants
Castro has held the Cuban people back while the rest of the world flies into the future.
Internet restriction? Book bans? Complete state control of the means of production, control which is poorly managed and rewarding for the corrupt government officials who run it?
These a successful country does not make
Xavier Cook
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Blake Price
Liberal here. Fuck Castro.
Daniel Bell
Thanks, Rodrigo (seriously, though, good vid)
Brandon Brown
People always forget the most important thing: No leaving.
I know a Cuban who's dad went to jail after the two of them got caught trying to make it to Florida on a fucking raft. How people get away with supporting some North Korea tier bullshit or even get treated seriously is fucking bizarre.
Excuse my butthurt.
Gavin Bailey
On a hill, a sheep that had no wool saw horses, one of them pulling a heavy wagon, one carrying a big load, and one carrying a man quickly. The sheep said to the horses: "My heart pains me, seeing a man driving horses." The horses said: "Listen, sheep, our hearts pain us when we see this: a man, the master, makes the wool of the sheep into a warm garment for himself. And the sheep has no wool." Having heard this, the sheep fled into the plain.
>based father liberals never had vs shitskin manlet nu male Gee, i wonder.
Wyatt Bell
t. gommie
Anthony Cooper
Did you make this? I like it, pretty good
Alexander James
wtf i love duterte now
Lincoln Jones
Duterte is killing drug lords so he can be the only one controlling narcotics in and out of his territory.
Christian Kelly
A lot died from police operations
Also reports of police doing the vigilante killings themslevs
David Rodriguez
Its still as crazy as before with pickpockets street children and robbers I bet drug dealers are still there just in the down low
Isaac Ross
When you found out Obama and Trudeau takes turn to kiss Castro's ass but shit on Putin, Duerte and Assad, you know something has gone very wrong.
They are shilling for the death commie to propagate communist ideas.
Gabriel Cox
liberals dont like east asians or south east asians if they are not indians. they like to feel sorry for people. so they love black people and muslims even when they are violent or indians in poo covered streets
every liberal is a 13 year old girl on the inside. so a le weed man look alike who was white pretending to be cuban is like their dream husband
Jordan Moore
I still see kontong cops especilly this christmas season
Blake Wilson
Because Castro was a national socialist, mass murdering thug who brutally oppressed his people for over 60 years and Duterte is an edgy middle schooler who sold out to the Chinese, but he still has potential to be a good leader and made a really bad mistake or just a dumb move.
Aiden Watson
I hate both of them, what now?
Brody Evans
Duterte is not a communist.
Julian Phillips
Because when he was massacring minorities, gays and people he wanted to steal from, he recited passages from Marx and dressed like a revolutionary.
That's all liberals care about - aesthetics. Most of them are too stupid to understand politics, and only view it like bad TV. They see "heroes" and "villains" and identify them by superficial means.
They wouldn't know where Cuba was on a map, let alone what went on there.
That's why they worship part time Ski instructor turned Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who has the I.Q. of a damp rag and implements policy based on opinion polls.
Jaxon Brown
>There needs to be respect for the rule of law
Hence the executions, you dumb ass.
They have no rule of law, and are attempting to reinstate it.
It's like bitching that soldiers didn't get served warrants and be taken in for arrest, but were instead shot on the beaches of Normandy. Until you control the nation and it's institutions, you can't manage its legal system.
Liberals are so fucking stupid and out of touch with reality. The real world doesn't operate like CoD or CSI you halfwit.
Caleb Green
This.
Nazis mourn Hitler's death. Those Jews that live in Israel and fled Germany celebrated it.
Disgusting.
Jose Morgan
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Landon Baker
Because Duerte shat on Obamessiah
Jordan Harris
Here comes the paid shill. every time there is a Duterte thread, you crawl out of the woodwork.
1. This is the (((media))). Of course they are gonna put Duterte in a bad light.
2. This does not prove that Duterte does extrajudicial killings.
3. Both the local and international media are owned and controlled by Duterte's opponents. Duterte isn't even the establishment yet. His every move is scrutinized carefully under a microscope. That means If he commits at least one extrajudicial killings, he'd be gone. The fact that he's still president proves that his opponents can't find one iota of evidence.
So they resort to media character assassination. They also hire paid shills like you to tarnish his good name online.
>implying Haiti isnt shit because they are basically loaded with niggers
Get a load of this useful idiot
Samuel Ward
Media is against Duterte because the media is owned or controlled by his local opponents, who hate the fact that they are no longer in office and therefore can no longer steal the wealth of the country. These local politicians also share their stolen wealth to their American puppeteers. Which is also the reason Foreign media is also against Duterte because the foreign media is owned and controlled by The foreign puppetters.
It's the Military-Industrial-Media Complex.
As Donald Trump said
> "Corporate media is no longer involved in journalism. They're a political special interest no different than any lobbyist with a total political agenda."
Joseph Harris
castro isnt a national socialist.. far from it.
Thomas Morris
I've been redpilling normies using Hitler as an example of good dictators, also lee kuan yew
Ryder Wright
Goddamn. He even names the jew.
Fuck we need someone like him over here.
Brandon Rogers
>duterte's Presidential guards were bombed in the southern part of mindanao earlier today. > people are urging him not to come, > he's still gonna go tomorrow.
W-what will we do if he gets assassinated tomorrow in Marawi, pol?
Jacob Evans
Not only that but he claims he's the hitler for druggies, kek.
Joshua Sanchez
>Streets in the inner cities are actually cleaner now >people in government and police actually doing their intended jobs now, corrupt ones are fired immediately (they just fired over 830 policemen and traffic enforcers for not doing their jobs) >Foreign investors now coming in, and more and more jobs being created everyday >Economy is becoming healthier
All the liberal naysayers here have on my president is that he decided to finally "bury" our ex-dictator Marcos. Who was pretty based for killing commies tbqh
Jaxon Hall
never knew the leader of my neighbouring country was so based. god bless flip bros.
Levi Reyes
I don't, I hate them both.
Mason Rivera
You highlighted the difference between them. >>Both of them vowed to cleanse undesirables (drug dealers/Batista supporters) with some success.
One was killing creditors while the other is removing criminals.
Easton Foster
both castro and Duterte are twice the men Trump will ever be.
Isaac Carter
I don't like either
Gabriel Ramirez
Gaddafi stood up to (((them))) and rocked to boat so much (((they))) had to off him.
Nathaniel Watson
White monkeys don't like the idea of a strong Asian leader because it underscores how cucked Western leaders have been.
Kevin Taylor
But they're clearly not just pulling these numbers from their ass they're citing other government authorities which, unlike Duterte, have little to lose in making Duterte look bad
Alexander Cruz
he is by the way almost got killed this day because he killed too much of the ISIl link terrorists and they are made kek
Angel Hernandez
>"In all of our talks, I never said that 'I want this' or 'I want that'. I just want to be friends, to show to the world that I am not limited to a few countries, that I can interact with the rest of the world, because we are a sovereign state. We have to do business and to have diplomatic relations with everybody."
What's his end game ?
Ryder Jenkins
>Why do y'all love Castro so much but hate on Duterte? I thought Sup Forums generally thought the opposite of that. Duterte is bro-tier with Putin and praises Trump, while Castro is a fucking America-hating commie.
