Real life Diamond Dogs

Could a country solely survive and thrive on the profits of war?

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Seems to be working pretty well for you burgers

For those of you that aren't familiar with the concept of the mercenary group "Diamond Dogs", let me explain.

Diamond Dogs dispatched arms and soldiers to battlegrounds throughout the world with the intent to control wars, picking up private contracts from anyone who would pay. Using advanced technology and skill, Diamond Dogs was able to expand and provide for itself, personally creating what it needed in order to thrive.

If the nation solely takes contracts to take out insurgents (that aren't very well equipped and are susceptible to being eliminated by stealth missions/ superior technology) and uses the profits for infrastriucture and expansion, why could this not work?

It would be a great asset to first world countries like the U.S., Britain, Germany, etc. and it would never cross powers that were greater than them.

It would be a place to farm, raise children, educate and expand beyond regulation.

It would also be comfy af

>Could a country solely survive and thrive on the profits of war?

No.
The reason motherbase was able to survive and thrive was because each and every person living there was a soldier. There were almost no civilians (except huey and code talker), and almost no children (except the child soldiers).

The smallest country (Vatican doesn't count) is Tuvalu with about 10,000 people.

The largest mercenary outfit that I'm aware of is Blackwater / Academi which at its absolute peak had 700 employees.

So I don't think so. Even with all the shit going down there just isn't enough demand I don't think.

Now if you mean could a MICRO NATION located on an oil rig or something turn a big enough profit being mercs to keep existing, maybe.

Blackwater / Academi currently has around 400 employees.

So presumably you could have a micro state of about 400 residents whose national export was mercenary contractor work.

But compare that to even a modestly successful tech company.

You'r micro state would be more prosperous just by forcing every single person to learn how to code and making them create Apple/Android phone apps.

Imagine getting in choppers with your mates and wiping out insurgents using your superior tactics/intelligence/technology, then going home to your family/community and expanding your wealth.

Sounds exhilarating and fulfilling tbqh.

We are diamond dogs.
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But no, costs means you'd need a constant stream of expensive war contracts to stay afloat (GET IT?). Could take over a small country and make money that way though.

Except the fact that you and your mates are probably not soldiers, with little to no training.

A society made up of mostly paranoid Mall Ninjas sounds like an awful idea.

Imagine what it would do to morale when half the population dies every time you accept a job?

Most 1st world mercs enjoy fighting, that's why they do it for a living. The argument of forcig people to code and do it is stupid, it's like saying "why do you have a company that produces funiture? don't you know that if you forced people to learn how to code you could be the next Apple?"

>Tuvalu
>forgetting sealand

It doesn't have to end at just war though. Contracts would just be the revenue stream. Each male of age would be required to do their fair share of contracts, but in the meantime you specialize and grow within your own community and intellectually.

Academi brought in over a $1,000,000,000 in revenue in 2007, finances shouldn't be a problem.

Me personally? No, I'm happy here in the States, but my Military buddies loved the idea of it and said they would gladly join. They said that there was too much waiting when they were deployed and that handling Private Contracts seems like their dream.

This.

A multitude of military buddies of mine are home and would love to do a Diamond-Dogs-esque lifestyle.

But there aren't thousands of people yearning to make apps for phones, they are skilled militants that love combat but also want to see their homeland grow and prosper.

A military funded nation is the perfect combination of both, allowing them to fight for profit while also having the downtime to raise a family and manage their own property while at said country.

Let the world be

I get the appeal of having your own private little Project Venus / microcosm / arcology city or whatever you want to call it.

But unless you're a member of the administration or leadership, you have no choice in who comes or goes from such a society.

There's a very real, and very large possibility that your fellow citizens would end up being a bunch of annoying, autistic faggots whom you personally cannot stand.
Spouting memes, stupid jokes, tiny dicked faggots with a chip on their shoulder and an inferiority complex.

Literally a society built of internet tough guys forced to live together.

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>joost will never get DD implants

STOP

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Uh, we have been for decades now.

In case you haven't been paying attention.

Does ancient Sparta count?

NO MORE

>could

The idea is that private militants can come who have combat backgrounds.

A major complaint in the military is all the waiting/defending is extremely boring and prolonged. Diamond Dogs fixes this concept. You ship out to your destination, eliminate what must be done in a war ridden shithole, then leave.

This idea is extremely appealing to 1st world combatants, and I'm wondering why it hasn't yet happened. The money is definitely there. As I've stated before, in 2007 alone one single private contractor brought in over 1,000,000,000 dollars in revenue. .

Is it the lack of land? Because as you can in pic related, you can now construct and build upon rigs that look quite comfy and are capable of housing people.

We have been on this type of government since Eisenhower took office....

All it takes is the right socialization propaganda.

TO be fair ISIS have made a good attempt at creating a new nation state with their own values and ideals, and for that I respect them.

I miss the racist Miller threads

I thought they just sold merchandise

It already is happening, I don't understand your question.

ISIS is fighting for survival/out of desperation, not profit. They aren't a prosperous country.

Remember what uncle Kaz said; "Only master race on mother base."

Yes, and who armed them?

Where? I'm completely ignorant that this is already a thing.

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Because if mercs created their only "country" the whole world would be able to pinpoint and target them. It's safer for them to be hidden in local populace. And even then they have to be seriously protective of themselves.

He's talking about offshore meme islands, not the ideas of PMC's

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>I'm wondering why it hasn't yet happened.
Because there's still shit like rules of engagement, geneva convention, what kind of person you can technically define as a combatant, etc, etc.

Not to mention, if you're not affiliated with any government, you would need to be able to run your own intel and recon, and make all your own contacts.

Nobody would trust you, because you might be fighting for them one day, and against them the next.

yes
praise be

The U.S., but that isn't what I'm talking about. The U.S.'s chief export isn't war.

The country I'm talking about would be specialized combatants while also having children and expanding their own country while also allying themselves with the stronger nation, almost like a parasite, but one that the host nation voluntarily feeds because it serves its purpose efficiently and beneficially.

>meme islands

China's got that covered for us, we'll have to see how it works out.

>what kinda building you want?
>mormon porn.
>say no more

That's all propaganda.
Diamond Dogs just sells hamburgers.
Why do you think he changed his name to MCDONALD miller?

BOSS!!!

Because it makes more sense to become a PMC based out of a country. The juicy contracts are from the government (like what Academi has going). There's not much demand for random (untrusted) foreign soldiers.

Also then you don't need to maintain infrastructure, you just hire employees and you're done.

See The bigger nations would benefit from them carrying out their dirty work. It is difficult for a lot of countries' armies to do tasks because a lot of them don't WANT to be there. A nation like Diamond Dogs have people in the field that voluntarily do the work, they hunger for combat/the glory of battle.

>the U.S's chief export isn't war
Have you been caught up in history over the last 60 years? That's literally all we do. More money is spent on war than anything else.
>muh medicaid and SS
Nope. Don't believe the charts.

But like I said earlier, now you can pinpoint the location of them. Not exactly ideal for a shadow PMC operation. Makes sense for the airstrips though

You guys have a hard on for oil rigs because muh vidya.
See FBI black sites. Far better and versatile.

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>INB4 THE RUSSIANS

You can't hide anything above ground anymore.

Doesn't have to be oil rigs, in fact those don't even seem all that practical. I'm just posting them because they look comfy as fuck and are outside the legal jurisdictions of most countries.

Praise Moloch.

>See FBI black sites. Far better and versatile.

Most of them are just pits with doors.

Meh.

I'm prepared to do what I must

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>so lets make an oil rig in the middle of the ocean because that isn't noticeable

I was told it was machines and engines

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It's out of the jurisdiction of other Nations, that is the real benefit.

Honestly, I'm shocked and disappointed that the Diamond Dogs didn't use the Heiwamaru as their FOB.

It's the perfect cover, to use a shitty old whaling vessel or oil tanker as your nuclear staging platform for going on missions around the world. Much more subtle than flying a fuckton of helicopters into a zone.

Also, the FOB combat system would seem a lot less retarded if you were just attacking other ships you encountered on the ocean, rather than literally every mercenary group in the world having its own secret oil rig in the middle of the ocean that you invade with your wormhole teleporters.

God damn it I want to go back in time and write my own metal gear game.

why would it need to go back and pick it up if it had already stopped?

No, because they generated their own economy with war as a tool.

The nation I'm proposing works as a parasite that does the militant work of other countries, and are sub-sequentially paid for their services by these richer nations.

"Hey yo guys broke all these laws and are war criminals!"

"we're on an oil rig so you can't get us, better luck next time"

I'm sure nobody will try and destroy that rig ever and your plan is foolproof

where? because i dont know who and where

Switzerland?

It's how many states started. The Aryans were originally steppe raiders, for instance.

>where? because i dont know who and where
That's kind of the point, isnt it?

Basically the dorsai

They were fucking Jews

Thanks for realizing it's far more reasonable. And it's still just as neat. A cargo boat would also be great because a lot of our "black op" conflicts happen in shipping routes around Somalia and the South China Sea. I wouldn't be suprised if the US is still using something like this still.

That would be absolutely true, except you don't fuck with nations that can oppose you. Those nations are the ones that you do the contracts for. You wipe out smaller groups of insurgents in shithole countries, reclaim lost land from radicals, etc. The possibilities are endless.

tldr: you wouldn't fuck with the USA, Britain, China, etc., You would be their attack dog that specialize in eliminating thorns in their sides.

>>Could a country solely survive and thrive on the profits of war?

The United States of America has existed for about 240 years. We have been at war for over 225+ of those years.

During those less than 15 years years we haven't been warring against the rest of the world, we spend preparing for the next war(s)

America spends more on its military than all the other countries on earth, combined.

America has almost a thousand military bases in over 150 different countries across the world. America has death-star tier super weapon advantages in almost every theater of combat. We have single air craft carriers that can destroy and shut down small countries. We have nuclear submarines and bombs flying 24/7. We have a fleet of aerial drones that no other country can come close too.

And we use all that might to control the whole world's economy for our benefit, and we siphon that money right back into our military, intelligence, and technology to retain our advantage.

We control the currencies and we control the internet, we control most of the the world's communications and interactions.

America is an empire and we are the 'best' empire the world has ever seen, we could have complete global hegemonic rule if we really wanted to but we literally don't because we would rather NOT police every third world hellhole, but merely take advantage of them, steal their resources, and suppress any chances of them ever becoming a rival.


America is this.

a weapon ...... to surpass metal gear...

This honestly reads like an Occupy Democrats meme.

WE ARE FLUORITE FROGS

Nah m8, Switzerland uses their banks to fuck over other nations, not its military.

Why do you say that?
The what? I'm not familiar. is pic related what you're talking about?

wtf you talking, best game after mgs3

Urban survival 101; if psychopaths are living secretively they're probably not living by the ideals they say they are.

That includes Daesh. There's more to Sharia than bringing back the Colosseum.

Diamond Dogs. However it would have to have nuclear weapons to defend itself from countries getting pissed at it. It would basically be histroical swtizerland, which did a similar thing.

However, an actual country of actual people couldn't do this. It could before modern technology and fiat currency, but nowadays 1: there is nothing to steal that could be easily taken back to home without long term occupation 2: nukes. 3: our widescale world peace means no one to raid (war focused countries need constant war or they fall apart, and if they're the only ones going to war then they'll get taken out by pissed off neighbours real quick).

So, small scale merc country? Yes!

Large scale Prussia style military country? No.

1=3>2>5>4

So the CIA plus oil rigs?

Go be a meme somewhere else

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America never ran a plunder economy. You retards point toward the Natives as if they had enormous amounts of wealth to squander. Natural wealth, yes, but you need to develop natural wealth, you don't just take it as war spoils.

No doubt about it, that all seems accurate.

But within that empire, those who rise up must be squashed, and war is becoming more and more taboo in the eyes of the public.

That is the niche that Diamond Dogs fits. It is an extension of a powerful nation's (or a weak one, revenue all the same) will and when push comes to shove they are the best for the job because war is its only job.

Look up Kuwait oil fields

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>implying the ocean isn't fucking enormous and searching even a tiny sweep of the Pacific doesn't take many manhours and the most sophisticated technology mankind possesses

They still haven't found MH370 yet, have they?

Thank you Anons, these are the quality replies that help solve my question and progress the conversations.

Have a rare Joosten for your top quality responses.

You're implying that flight 370 would be floating on the surface of the ocean, and not sitting on the ocean floor.

Also, something floating on the ocean is not quite the same as a fuckhuge oil rig that literally sticks out of the surface.

> (You)
>No doubt about it, that all seems accurate.
>But within that empire, those who rise up must be squashed, and war is becoming more and more taboo in the eyes of the public.
>That is the niche that Diamond Dogs fits. It is an extension of a powerful nation's (or a weak one, revenue all the same) will and when push comes to shove they are the best for the job because war is its only job.


We'll now you are describing America's foothold in the middle east, Israel, created as an effect of WWI and WWII. We heavily subsidize this small, advanced nation and give it good press and free reign to commit brutal atrocities and warfare in effort to take control of the region solely for our shared economic and political gain. The satellite nation has just enough autonomy and identity to appear sovereign, but it's continued existence is 100% solely at our discretion.

I'm getting the feeling that the general consensus of this discussion is that the war economy CANNOT sustain a country, is that right?

He's trying to go meme somewhere else.

On an oilrig.

This is just a veiled stratfor secondary markets shill thread.