/leftypol/ raids us

The cancerous and annoying /leftypol/ has been raiding us, probably along with Reddit users as well. These are the kinds of people who use the phrase "alt-right" and make the least funny content you could ever see. It's no use in arguing with them because when someone has gone so far as to call themselves a Maoist or Stalinist it's too late. /leftypol/ threads usually have a picture of a hammer and sickle and some phrase like "what's wrong with communism."

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We're coming bucko.

they're already here getting wrecked

I really don't give a shit about their political views but they're very cancerous and unfunny

no u
Funny, I started a left thread to "debate" with fascist. The entire thread was insult after insult. There was one goy who said he was interested in actual debate, I provided him with an empirical evidence and a philosophic essay and then he went back to memeing about the Communist Manifesto without addressing either. Why should I believe the rest of this board is any different?

i find it disgusting that mods allow users from another site to organise raids against our board.

Might I also add Mr. Metokur debated one of these /leftypol/ types that black guy who stuttered like a pussy. Those are the people were dealing with.

>disinform and indoctrinate
yeah that'll work
it'll really win us over too, real upstanding behavior
pretty sure disinform isn't a word btw

yeah no one wants to debate you because no one fucking cares

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What the hell are they thinking? Sup Forums has had a large leftist population before, what's the big deal? What do they think they are going to achieve?

If you want a debate head over to 8pol this place is literally just a bunch of shitpoasting. I think people have every right to insult some random guy who's participating in raiding this board just to try and subvert it. I've read the manifesto, gonna read Kapital and have many communists in the family so it's not a stupid ideology it's just your board is full of special snowflake flags screeching at each other how smart they are.

>neo-leftists
>think

pick one

There's a serbian proxy raid as well

>calling the right fascists
You aren't worth debating.

The problems is that everyone is struggling to take you seriously. While you are here disagreeing freely, if I went to your shithole and made a single post supporting fascism or one the branches of communism your glorious leader doesn't like it's a ban.

>I've read the manifesto, gonna read Kapital and have many communists in the family so it's not a stupid ideology it's just your board is full of special snowflake flags screeching at each other how smart they are.
This is completely true flag fags are cancer, but 8pol isn't muh free speech like here and you get banned for dissent pretty quickly.

>fascism isn't right wing
Neither are you.

>"debate" with fascist
Political discussion ends when you start putting people into boxes.

Also "debating" with animals - since that is how your kind behaves - will not happen. One of the countless vids which shows the true face of neo-leftistm, neo-liberalism etc.
youtube.com/watch?v=JlOi8ZiAZiw

Your degenerate movements do not deserve to partake in political discussion and you brought it upon yourselves.

and...
A FUCKING LEAF

Excuse my effort-post:

Noone likes to debate Communist Leftist types because when you """debate""", your arguments are always filled with leftist language and regurgitated dogma.

For example,when you address stupid shit that doesn't exist like "class consciousness", you make the assumption via using that language that your entire argument is already true.

It's no different than when some faggot mainstream liberal talks about stopping the "patriarchy" and "institutionalized racism". You can't argue with these people by using their language, because the nature of their language implies they are already correct, that shit like the patriarchy actually exists. It makes them falsifiable in a way.

So the easiest thing to do is call you a commie faggot.

>The problems is that everyone is struggling to take you seriously. While you are here disagreeing freely, if I went to your shithole and made a single post supporting fascism or one the branches of communism your glorious leader doesn't like it's a ban.
No, we aren't bann happy. As long as you don't shitpost you won't get banned there's a debate between a 4pol cuck and leftycuck in the thread in the OP right now.

It makes them unfalsifiable in a way.*

>wont get b&
your full of shit leaf

>Sup Forumscuck doesn't know what Neoliberalism is and thinks it has anything to do with far leftism
David Harvey wrote an entire book on the history of neoliberalism and why it's so shit.

>For example,when you address stupid shit that doesn't exist like "class consciousness", you make the assumption via using that language that your entire argument is already true.
No, it's up to you to prove that "class consciousness doesn't exist". I don't quite understand what you're trying to say. Are you trying to say it's impossible for workers to gain knowledge of the inner workings of capitalism?

>So the easiest thing to do is call you a commie faggot.
>this whole post
>no arguments
As I expected.

I'm not sure about that. One thing that stood out for me was some guy making a serious post and getting banned for some obscure type of communism he didn't even know about. At least from what I have seen you guys aren't retarded as to support Hillary, which was a pleasant surprise.

why is "facist" the next buzzword? Have you grown tired of nazi?

Also stay on your side of the wall, syrup-google

>keep the stalinists from making threads

it's as if they don't like communism or something

>neo-liberals
>not actaing like all other neo-leftist animals

Also I don't give a flying fuck about the good ol' lefty tactic of "hiding behind the definition".

Might I also add you guys contradict each other. The Ancoms believe that the Free Territory and Catalonia were true anarchistic communism. Then I saw a tankie go on to claim that Nestor Mahkno was a criminal and an AnCap and then debunked that either was really anarchistic. Then you have the Anfems which go full idol and one of the mods on /leftypol/ is one and is super ban happy.

Come flood leftypol with gore anons they dont have range bans on proxies like us.

The HillShills didnt leave a dent. What are commie threads meant to accomplish

How is fascist a buzzword? The "alt-right" is a rebranded fascist movement.

Why would we support a neoliberal corporate shill? We do laugh at you for supporting Trump. Not even December and he's already appointing Jewish Goldman Sachs advisors.

And what were you banned for?

As if they don't like ML or something.

>implying Stalinism is the only form of communism

You know raiding is against the rules

In europe the new buzzword is "rightwing-populist". In the media that is. On the streets they shout: Nazi!, Fascist!, Racist!, etc. Especially in Autria they love to shout "Fuck Hofer" and they even have a "protest" in Vienna on Saturday, which goes officially by that name.

>alt-right
>exists

pick one

Nobody said Trump is perfect. He's the best choice however. I wouldn't place much trust on le free shit man who also sold out to the establishment while claiming to fight it.

>Also I don't give a flying fuck about the good ol' lefty tactic of "hiding behind the definition".
Oh yeah, I forgot about the fact that rightist can't read. See if you can read this okay? Neoliberalism is an economic philosophy most commonly associated with Reagan, and Thatcher types - supply side economics, austerity, free trade etc in order to enhance the role of the private sector in the economy. I have no idea what "neoleftist" is supposed to mean - if you mean liberals then sure, neoliberalism is a proper description for their economic policies. There however, is absolutely nothing leftist about neoliberalism.

Yeah we have a lot of infighting on our board, I prefer that to having an echo chamber though.

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lel i sage u

here I'll help you out, you should have said:

>is the most pure form of communism

that gives you an opening to say that you just want more pure communism.

but instead you have chosen the route of considering Stalinism separate from Communism. Which it simply isn't. Stalinism is Communism.

Of course then you should elaborate on what makes "pure communism"

I think I know what you mean, but I don't want to put words in your mouth.

Post it then.

>Nobody said Trump is perfect. He's the best choice however. I wouldn't place much trust on le free shit man who also sold out to the establishment while claiming to fight it.
Bernie was a concession candidate. He wasn't a socialist, just a social democrat. The left is split (like on most things) over reformism, especially concepts like UBI. I think post-left anarchy which is influenced by Stirner has an interesting critique of 20th century leftist organizational structure.

Most of Sup Forums wouldn't find much to disagree with Richard Spencer on, and he came up with the term.

Look for the cuck and his cuckles trying to make new balance shoes the official shoes of the alt-right whilst simultaneously protesting it. Probably see more of them tommorow when school gets out.

The use of the phrase alt-right is from TRS not Sup Forums so calling us that is just disingenuous. I get some people here aren't so versed in the ideas of communism and its full history. I have myself think National Syndicalism is perfectly fine. Though I must say, if you guys keep being so ideologically split with the different flags don't be surprised that if shit hits the fan it's gonna end up like Spain all over again.

Here's another effort-post for you cus I'm bored:

No, it was an example of language that exclusively communists use.

So of course non-communists don't want to fucking argue with you when the only thing you can throw at them is regurgitated dogma and exclusively-communist language.

Secondly, the arguments you communists throw up are OLD and have been used for decades now, it doesn't accurately meet the problems of people in the current year. You haven't been able to adjust your strategy and ideology like the Alt-Right has, and we've grown because of it. This is the same reason all the old Paleo-con political guys have all faded to irrelevancy while this new Meme-infused Nationalist movement is only gaining steam.

I'm not giving you an argument, i'm giving you a reason why everyone here doesn't want to debate you in good faith like we accept libertarians in good faith.

Read the second part of my post again if you don't understand.

P.S. Leftist Memes aren't funny because they try way to hard to not to be offensive. They appear weak. The Stirner meme was the most pathetic forced shit I've ever seen.

>No, it's up to you to prove that "class consciousness doesn't exist"

But why would anyone have to if you haven't proven it is true?

Who cares?

Let them stay.

Our influence will get to them eventually.

A FUCKING LEAF!

>The use of the phrase alt-right is from TRS not Sup Forums so calling us that is just disingenuous. I get some people here aren't so versed in the ideas of communism and its full history. I have myself think National Syndicalism is perfectly fine. Though I must say, if you guys keep being so ideologically split with the different flags don't be surprised that if shit hits the fan it's gonna end up like Spain all over again.
I agree, tankies are cancer. I'm trying to organize a more libertarian socialist group in my city to try and gain dominance over the ML group which has about 15 members.

Nice non-argument. I wasn't doing any of that so I guess you're just retarded.

It's not something that is "true or false". It's a state of mind, varying amounts of people already possess it.

>b-but i-it is about economics

They call themselves liberals - which they are not according to their words and actions - therefore neo-liberals or simply SJWs.

>Richard Spencer
>not a plant

Are you fags from the left that retarded? Media and Hillary came up the the "alt-right" labelling and all of a sudden a bunch of fags call themselves "alt-righters" and leaders of the "alt right." According to you fucks and your MSM-overlords, everyone who sits on Sup Forums, reads e.g. Breitbart, or is at least slighty conservative on the internet is "alt-right".

they tried this was last summer and it was a huge failure

>They call themselves liberals - which they are not according to their words and actions - therefore neo-liberals or simply SJWs.
And what does this have to do with materialist philosophies in leftism?

>Are you fags from the left that retarded? Media and Hillary came up the the "alt-right" labelling and all of a sudden a bunch of fags call themselves "alt-righters" and leaders of the "alt right." According to you fucks and your MSM-overlords, everyone who sits on Sup Forums, reads e.g. Breitbart, or is at least slighty conservative on the internet is "alt-right".
Ahahahaha, you wanna substantiate that claim that Richard Spencer is a ""plant"" or what?

If /leftypol/ were to admit race is real and that some cultures are superior than others, and that nationalism isn't so bad if it helps the vanguard Sup Forums would easily embrace left wing ideals. Like how some people who voted Syriza were actually nationalists.

Damn, I thought reading comprehension was one of you /leftypol/ people's strong points.

Lefty meme alert
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Sup Forums will be left wing within 6 months when Trump is shown to be a puppet

how nice of them telling us what the name of their shill threads will be.

Lets hate fuck /leftypol/

i skim through Sup Forums every so often and i've never seen shit blow up related to communism these people are delusional for sure

>Right-Wing guys turns out to not be actually Right-Wing
>What the heck? Maybe the Right-Wing was wrong?

>it's al about economic ideology, dude
Yeah whatever, noone is falling for that.

Spencer had some online magazine he called "alternative right" at some point. Then he closed it down and moved on. Suddenly, when the media started to talk about the "alt-right", made it up basically - that specter in the night on the internet...sigh...Spencer all of a sudden showed up and called himself the "leader and founder of the "alt-right".

Noone in his right mind ever gave a shit about spencer and the other plants, only the media and therefore your kind.

you can use any old proxy to shit up their board they don't have complex range bans like Sup Forums

>caring this much

>If /leftypol/ were to admit race is real and that some cultures are superior than others, and that nationalism isn't so bad if it helps the vanguard Sup Forums would easily embrace left wing ideals. Like how some people who voted Syriza were actually nationalists.
What about national bolshevism then? Proudhon and Bakunin were deeply anti-Semitic to.

Why would I take the time to seriously respond to your post? What do you want me to do? "N-n-no that's not me. I swear!!". I wasn't doing any of that, I don't care what other leftist might do when they use dogmatic and esoteric language - that doesn't apply to me if I'm not doing it. All I can do is say you're a retard who makes grandiose, yet vague critiques to cover up a dearth of theoretical substance.

It's literally just this one kiwi guy

if you gave a shit you wouldn't be forced to pray twelve times a day

like you see this? no one is going to take these types of post seriously unless they already had an inclination towards communism in the first place, fist urself

>what is trotskyism, Leninism, Marxism, anarchic communism, Left communism
I'm saying that assuming Stalinism is the only form of communism is wrong.
"pure communism" signifies just as much as "pure capitalism", which is very little, if anything.

Their first mistake is arguing with us. Let them come, they aren't changing any minds here, but they are changing their own.

>commies

I realized shills were back a few days ago. Hadn't been on to much since the election, slow news weeks, but i came back and it I saw bait threads everywhere.

>Yeah whatever, noone is falling for that.
>No you actually are the people I don't like, no one will fall for your game - my armchair psychoanalysis breaks through your facade!
kek

>Spencer had some online magazine he called "alternative right" at some point. Then he closed it down and moved on. Suddenly, when the media started to talk about the "alt-right", made it up basically - that specter in the night on the internet...sigh...Spencer all of a sudden showed up and called himself the "leader and founder of the "alt-right".
I used to use Sup Forums when I was a fashy goy, and people here would regularly refer to themselves as being part of the "alt-right". Anyway, even if Sup Forums isn't the "alt-right", about the only thing you guys disagree with them on is fags.

>Sup Forums complains about non-raids happening on their super secret internet club
>goes to actually raid

All you fagots do is "quote mine" so you ramble off the same shit depending on what you're reading at that time. It's completely pointless, not unlike your sex life.

I think it's interesting that you are complaining about left-wing terminology because it's evidence of the lack of a strong intellectual backing to the alt-right movement. You get agitated when someone spews 'language that only commies use' because it highlights your own lack of 'language that only the alt-right use'. You are so triggered by commie memes because they actually originate from strong philosophy and centuries of debate, whereas the alt-right movement is so lacking in this that all you can post respond with is images of 'nu-males' and a cartoon frog as a rebuttal. You might think the Stirner meme was stupid but at least Stirner was a great philosopher who influenced all nihilists who came after him, you guys have Kek an egyptian god who makes things happen due to consecutive digits in posts on an anime imageboard. How is anyone supposed to take the alt-right seriously without matching the left with the same level of literature and analysis?

>like you see this? no one is going to take these types of post seriously unless they already had an inclination towards communism in the first place, fist urself
Well I don't know what you want. What about Strasserism?

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if Trump is a puppet it just makes him aligned with the current left establishment, nice logic.

>and people here would regularly refer to themselves as being part of the "alt-right"
I would take that as seriously as people on Sup Forums claiming to be part of anonymous. Anyone can claim anything here.

Mao did nothing wrong

>left establishment
I wish

it's just neocons and liberals

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>Sup Forums is a centralized one opinion one ideology board

Is it like that ony /lefty/pol? Makes sense, that is your problem. Projecting.

>All you fagots do is "quote mine" so you ramble off the same shit depending on what you're reading at that time. It's completely pointless, not unlike your sex life.
More non-arguments!

this. Stop acting like any serious philosopher of any political ideology doesn't use jargon.

Reminder that ideologies like communism require an enemy to function.

I suppose this place is their enemy.

We don't want to debate we want you removed.

>Only way to get communism to work
>Requires the murder of millions
>Still fails due to economic decline and human nature

No one wants to do hard work just to give away the rewards you stupid leftist.

Not only that. EVERYONE who at least slightly disagrees with them is their enemy.

All ideologies need an enemy to function. Learn to Carl Schmitt

tl;dr Sup Forums is original and I am not

You're not an intellectual, you barely understand even half of what someone like that wrote, you're a lonley pleb regurgitating another persons ideas.

You are grossly underestimating the stupidity and stubbornness of a communist.

>I don't care if other leftists do bla bla bla
You see this is your problem. You faggots have no unity, and therefore no hope of any of you becoming relevant.

At least here the Civic and Ethnic Nationalists get along for the most part because we understand the Media/political Jews and neo-libs are a far greater threat.

Don't really care. I've lurked /leftypol/ a bit but Sup Forums is my home despite being leftist myself. There used to be gommie generals here, alongside liberty generals and such. I don't see the issue with them starting up again.

Through days dark and stormy where Great Lenin lead us
Our eyes saw the bright sun of freedom above
And Stalin our leader with faith in the people,
Inspired us to build up the land that we love.

Self-praise is no praise at all. You are implying that /leftypol/ does not reply with ad hominems and strawmen arguments (spooks, the ideologue meme, and porky). It even goes one step further with the banning of on-topic posters, because of disagreements.

the left wing threads here will just be spammed constantly by NeetSocs

>Is it like that ony /lefty/pol? Makes sense, that is your problem. Projecting.
No we have a lot of infighting. 8pol is a Nazi torture chamber, but I will admit 4pol is a bit more diverse. Regardless, this place is filled with a lot of self described fascist and authoritarians.

The impending age of total automation will make Marxism a far more viable option than old school fascism.

We need.. To absorb them..

>There used to be gommie generals here
Post proof

Oh I know, most will not turn, especially if they are Jewish. Some will, but it doesn't really matter.

Fully automated luxury communism

Faggots see my post and know that communism has always failed so they just ignore it.
>USSR (Failed)
>China (Failed) Now some capitalist oligarchy shit.
>Pol Pot (Failed)
>Every east European state (Failed)
>Zimbabwe (Failed)
>The pilgrams (Failed)
>Venezuela (Failed)

They all have shitty economies, starving people, and murderous goverments.
>OH BUT EVERYONE'S EQUAL COMRADE

haha