Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need.
>Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need."
>To acheive such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said.
How dare you speak, you swarthy jungle monkey. How dare you open your big lipped, rim encrusted, menthol cigarette smelling mouth?
You are human trash, Diego Tyrone LeShawn de Maradona. Universally despised, derided and mocked. Your nationality and skin tone offers no hope to the world that South America can ever prosper. Crawl back in to the Brazilian jungle you came out of, you literal orangutan.
I hope you decide to sail your grandfathers skip to the Falklands and rape some sheep, as is in the negroes nature. It would still be the whitest pussy you ever had. Give Nigel and Robert a chance for some target practice, your sole use to the world. Argentinians obsession with a few windswept islands in the Atlantic is hilarious but sad. Coincidentally its the only worthwhile contribution Argentina has made to the medical field. The MUH LAS MALVINAS sentiment in the average negro Argentinian is both an early warning sign of autism in children, and early on set Alzheimer's in adults.
Take your black hairy fingers off your keyboard, and never talk about the human species again, you mockery of our supposed shared ancestor.. No amount of olive oil and wheat flour slabbed on your face every morning will make you white. It's about as delusional of an idea as your daydreams of European heritage.
You nigger.
You make Bolivia look like a beacon of civilisation.
You are the Baltimore of South America.
Go fertilise the pampas with you and your families corpses, its the best you can hope for in life. For the first time in your life, nigger, you have a job making food for beings vastly superior to yourself. Uruguayan cattle. Coincidentally, it would be the first time an Argentinian "man" provided for a family.
Die, Diego. No one would miss you. Except for Australian Aboriginals, who now would have no one to make them look good.
Julian Morris
Former communistic country reporting in. AMA.
Jayden Rivera
Seize the means of reproduction comrade Satan.
Isaiah Jenkins
Fuck off Satan
Bentley Peterson
>marxist thread >satan trips pottery
Oliver Long
Also stop linking the manifesto. The manifesto is fucking shit. Especially if you're giving it to people mostly uneducated in communism.
Jaxon Garcia
Thanks for the bump, capitalist pig.
Charles Collins
>(((Human nature and economics don't matter - the thread)))
>human nature isn't entirely dependent on human situation Do you cause and effect?
John Ward
Hey guys, will you celebrate 07.11.2017?
Jordan Cox
The manifesto is a childlike understanding of marxism, I would suggest reading Das Kapital to understand just how full of shit Marx was, followed by Mein Kampf, then the Protocols, the picture becomes very clear afterward.
Asher Nelson
faggots the thread
Angel Wright
Hello, reddit commies.
Does this picture describe you?
If so then fuck off numale faggots
Parker Anderson
You're trying so hard, reddit, it's almost cute.
Anthony Bennett
Fuck leftists Praise kek
Joseph Perez
>tfw its been 100 years and true communism STILL hasn't been tried h-hold me comrades
Aiden Gutierrez
>what is overhead literal children
Kevin Rodriguez
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Juan Campbell
lel i sage u
Liam Reyes
If Communists were smart they would use Karl Marx's rampant antisemitism to reel in the huge number of posters here who already hate Jews.
Again, it's hypothetical because Communists are idiots by definition.
Andrew Lopez
>Implying an employment contract isn't voluntary
Ian Nguyen
leftists dont belong here
praise kek
Noah Gonzalez
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Joseph Collins
>voluntary coercion
John Watson
Friendly reminder that egalitarianism is cancer.
Luke Green
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Oliver Flores
Nazis were BTFO by the Soviets in ww2. We left alive too many of them it seems...
Grayson Ortiz
So, how long until these /leftypol/ fags leave? It's starting to become mildly annoying.
Justin Baker
Meanwhile the Bolshevik Revolution was led by Jews. Really tickles the synapses, eh?
Hudson Adams
SAGE
James Lewis
Breaking news: communism triggers shitskins
Asher Hall
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Noah Reed
>I don't like living under communism very much >LOL BUT UR GULAGS, FIRING SQUADS AND MASS STARVATION ARE MADE UNDER COMMUNISM >CHECK MATE COMRADE
Cameron Miller
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Brayden Hernandez
Maybe, but none the less the Nazis had by far the most superior nation with the most superior and prosperous society of all!
Ayden Bell
Saged, reported, hidden, called the mods, emailed moot, emailed the admin, called the cops, called the state police, called the county sheriff, called your ISP, called the District Attorney, called Interpol, called the NYPD, called the State Attorney, called the LAPD, called Child Protective Services called the FBI, called US Homeland Security, called the CIA, called the NSA, called the US Marshals, called the local courthouse, called your State Constable, called London Metropolitan Police, called the German Police, called the TSA, called the US President, called the attorney general, called the National Guard, called the US marines, called the US Navy, called the US Air Force, called the US army, called the Royal Navy, called the governor of every state, called the Federal Air Marshals, called every sheriff deputy, called the Coast Guard, called the US Customs and Border Protection, called the RCMP, called every park ranger, called the mayor of every city in France, called the British Army, called the Queen, called NATO, called the Russian Air Force, called the Federal flight deck officers, called the UN, called the Corrections Department for every state, called the Australian Federal Police, called SWAT, called the Supreme Court, called the Mexican Police, called the White House, called the DEA, called the inspector general, called the Secret Service, called CNN, called ABC, called the vice president, called the senators for every state, called congress, called the pope, called CHP, called the Department of Fish and Wildlife for every state, called the internet police, called the US Capitol Police, and called the Party Van.
Easton Johnson
CHECKED FUCK LEFTISTS
Aaron Sullivan
Just goes to show communists always need capitalism to survive.
Anthony Morales
>implying a private company can force you do anything >simultaneously implying a government can not
>no state, no money, no class system >this is somehow the same thing as the russian sellout big state, has money, heavy class system Nice grade school meme.
Jose Clark
You faggots are cancer. Numales who have never done actual fucking labor speaking for those who do.
Joshua Smith
fags
Brandon Brown
What's this have to do with this thread?
Chase Powell
>t.NEET
Charles Perry
They both do because they both can. If you hoard all the food, people must do everything you say.
Samuel Jenkins
/leftypol/ OUT OUT OUT
Nathaniel Miller
>the abundance of socialized production EVERY TIME
William Morris
latin american shitty leftist experiences vs 13 yo cucknadian boy dreams of equality
Luis Wood
see before you keep posting these please
Owen Flores
Marx argues that as the economy grows under capitalism, technology advances. As technology advances wages decrease while labour input increases while also decreasing the honor of labour and the living conditions of the laborer.
Let us first condemn these accusations as technophobic and drawn entirely from a realm of emotions, not having any correspondence to the world in its actual form.
First: the argument that as technology grows wages decrease.
This is clearly untrue, evidence against this can be found by comparing the living conditions between any developed and developing nation.
As technology increases more production is increased leading to a cheapening of the value of products and an increase in the quality of said products. Due to the cheapening of said product the wages paid will always pay for more products in the larger economy.
Consider the wages of those in the middle of Mali an African Country vs the low class of the USA, obviously it can be seen that the low wages of the lower class in the USA overshadow the wages of the middle class of mali.
We can now say clearly that this is just overly emotional and fearful rhetoric Second:as technology advances labour input is increased and value of said labour is decreased.
This is also clearly untrue when we consider the high paying wages of the U.S. Factory worker when the manufacturing was done chiefly in said country.
It is obvious that as technology advances according to the principles of Fordism and scientific management(Taylorism) physical input from workers decreases while increasing the wages of said workers because every corporation wishes to turn a profit they shall pay their employees enough to earn said profit.
When you maximize the gains of your corporation you maximize the payment of your workers.
As such we can now clearly say after examining these principles and the state of reality as history judges that this argument is nothing but emotion fueled fearful rhetoric.
Ian Morris
THEORY: "Workers unite to claim"
REALITY: Middle class pretending to be lower class seizes wealth and power and then grants themselves gifts while killing dissidents which leads to Gulags and mass starvation, while larping as protectorate of working class
Evan Jackson
GULAG THE KIKES AND NIGGERS!!!
Sebastian Lee
>Communism is normally started by a revolution that then slaughters anyone who disagrees >Totally not voluntary coercion
Try again, although it's less coercion and more oppressing the people you've claimed to have "liberated".
Henry Roberts
see NUMALES OUT
Adam Cruz
Another fake thread made to strew up anti-communist hate.
Third: it is argued that as the economy grows the honor of the worker is decreased and the further is he exploited.
I argue that seeking honor for physical labour, that is to say for payment, is an unrealistic demand that is made purely to appeal to the emotions of those who feel the need to be honored or respected without placing any extra work for that as payment.
The only honors and glory one should receive from his work is the following. The honor of knowing he provided for himself, the honor of knowing he provided for his family, and the honor of knowing he helped his nation-state/society with his work.
Seeking of any further honor than these is pointless.
After understanding that this was nothing but an attempt at appealing towards the emotions of the poor and the emotions of the narcissistic we can now say that is was again nothing but emotion fueled rhetoric.
The argument of Marx about the means of production continuously changing by the shifting of hands from the minority into majority is also a false argument with no place in reality.
Rome was capitalist for example, and Egypt had state-capitalism.
Rome had banks no? It had legal tender no? It had a legal system and a court system no?
Further if we give the argument to Marx that this is how the economy shifts and grows eventually, that bourgeois overtakes aristocrat and proletariat overtakes bourgeois, we have no reason to assume that proletariat is the bottom line, the lowest principle. "Worker" isn't the lowest common denominator, especially not in modern welfare states. Person is.
If we go by Marx's own logic taken to the extreme, eventually the means of production would be forcibly taken from the proletariat by a different people. The leech class.
Jordan Sanders
Until communists and socialists kill off the anti-white, anti-male, anti-reality, anti-biology left (See: Social Justice Warriors) Im going to stay a fascist.
Asher Myers
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Jack Russell
Problem is communism takes people to initiate, every time its been talked about people have pointed that it would be a "temporary government". Spoiler alert it never is
Luke Flores
fuck off back to /leftypol/
stealth uncommon
Charles Price
>colombia >communist >or anarchist what
>anarchist gulags wat
Hudson Hill
>no true communist meme
fuck 'outta here
Jack Nelson
Tell me why morals aren't a bourgeois spook, your individual interest is supreme everything else is bourgeois chains.
Angel Ramirez
>science is a PC and/or jewish conspiracy! all the scientists in the world are just lying and my memes and infographs prove it! Science is actually on my side because I say so!
Brody Phillips
How about a free helicopter ride, OP?
Hudson Martin
KYS, and your comrads
Samuel Fisher
It literally wasn't communism, it was state capitalism, there's no argument against this
Lincoln Miller
Off to reddit or leftypol you go satan
Michael Brown
sage, hide and report jewish shills
Gabriel Carter
"Science is PC"
Academia is incredibly egalitarian and emphasizes critical theory because thats how our economic system supresses ingroup loyalty to keep warring ethnic interests subdued.
>It's starting to become mildly annoying. Why don't you just go ahead and skip all the stages of annoyance and go straight to being full-on triggered by our presence? Just go ahead and start spamming copypasta here if you want like all these other children since you can't tolerate the presence of another idea than your own.
Hunter Ramirez
>needing to invent fantasy scenarios to justify a fantasy system
If you hoard SOME of the food, me and the rest of the world will buy from someone else. They will get rich and your stockpile will go bad. We will not do business with you in the future. >hope you don't ever need a doctor.
If you hoard ALL the food (which is literally impossible, but whatever we're in a marxist-retard thread), me and the rest of the world will just kill you and take it back.
>uses the word "bourgeois" How about a helicopter ride, you look like you ca use one.
Kevin Nguyen
>no government is a temporary government Dude what. Communism, as defined its lack of a state or money, isn't some sort of liberal government policy.
Read above, it's by definition a society without a state or money. What you're referring to are the failed marxism attempts are bringing that about using an authoritarian state. Of course, an authoritarian state of any flavour is the wrong idea, anarchist methods to reach basic communism are the only path to not having an all powerful state.
Jaxon Barnes
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Wyatt Brooks
Fascism has its own form of central planning which is many times more efficient.
Centrally planned capitalism is the future.
Robert Lopez
Look! I can spam links too! I know you won't read them though and youll just call me a shill or a jew
top kek. Thats why those Kulaks gave up their grain so easily.
Camden Barnes
So jews are to blame for just about everything?
I'm beginning to wonder if the jews are the more accomplished ones. They managed to create both far left and far right spectrums.
Or maybe this is all part of the plan. Some top jew bigger than soros is right now in a bed, on the world's best life support, getting blood transfusions from newborns and replacing all of the organs in their body.
This jew is making the calls at the top, dictating every little thing that goes on around us.
We are led to believe it's soros, we are led to believe all of these things, simply to distract even us, the truthers, from what is really going on.
And the truth is some 200 year old kike is making a bunch of shitty calls.
Carson Morris
agreed. letting miscreants and criminals able to steal mass amounts of wealth for their own personal fortunes is quite literally what socialism and communism devolves into. You have to prepare for evil.
Dylan Bennett
Nazi germany was not a capitalist system you retard.
The only companies that existed were the ones the state allowed to exist under government contract. Almost everything was rationed because of the war effort. They also relied heavily on slave/POW labor.
Wyatt Carter
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Nolan Hernandez
Not if that "someone else" is also hoarding food. Here we reach the organizational problem of landlords. Read Kropotkin or Proudhon.
Jacob Jenkins
>not an argument >1 post by this ID You're more tiresome than triggering friend.
Dominic Ross
>wah you guys cry everytime reddit or leftypol try to raid Kys
Robert Ramirez
Reminder that your terrible ideology is responsible for killing just under 100 million innocent people, and the number will soon pass 100m.
This makes it the most violent and dangerous ideology in human history.
On top of that, it has never, EVER, managed to reach any of its goals or promises. Instead it has ended up doing the exact opposite literally every single time.
sage
Isaiah Bell
>Marxist general >get Satanic triplets Hmm I wonder what is KEK trying to tell us about these redcoat spirit cookers!
Hunter Brown
>you can't tolerate the presence of another idea than your own.
You have absolutely nothing of fucking value whatsoever to give when it comes to your "ideas". You promote sloth, degeneracy and dysgenics. If could right now, I'd slit your fucking throat open with a knife with an honest to god smile on my face, decapitate you and fucking smash your skull like an egg with a sludge hammer. You fucking fuck.
Camden Ortiz
b8
Brandon Cook
>me and the rest of the world will just kill you and take it back. Also literally a socialist revolution, why is an ancap advocating socialist revolution?
Xavier Morris
Reminder that communism and nazism are the same thing: totalitarian socialism with military rule.
