B-but communisim doesn't work

>b-but communisim doesn't work

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>china is communist

i thought china isn't real communism

>le growth meme

Nice try, but China is more business friendly than even America. It's easier to start, run and own a business there than here.

Great graph but it misses the fact US is still far higher with steady growth

China has a nationalist economy, not a communist one

I hope this is bait and that our school system hasn't failed you this badly.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deng_Xiaoping
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism_with_Chinese_characteristics

"Deng opened China to foreign investment and the global market, and encouraged private competition. He has been credited with developing China into one of the fastest-growing economies in the world for over 35 years and raising the standard of living of hundreds of millions of Chinese citizens."

>China
>Communist

LOK

China is the most ruthless capitalist powerhouse in the world. The government is literally a multinational corporation.

>bait for both communists AND capitalists
good work

The graph is indexed to purchasing power "parity ratios" at 1980 levels for both countries. So those ratios are increased by 1200% for China, which isn't surprising when you consider the poverty it had prior to the Deng Xiaopeng reforms when it was a TRUE COMMUNIST SOCIETY.

*sigh*
are you guys really implying that the PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA under a UNITARY Socialist State is not communist?

Also a very lax credit market. You literally could take out loans if you had the right connections without having any assets or collateral, and you can refinance and roll over your debt ad infinitum. That was until Xi Jinping took over, and China's so called growth have now stalled, and everyone is trying desperately to get their money out of the country.

This is literally the dumbest post I've ever seen and it's too innocent to be bait

I'm a very nice guy in real life. Loving, caring, friendly -- would never say, do, or think any bad thing about anyone.

But you, OP, you should literally find the nearest stapler and just starting mashing your dick with it. I'm serious. I'm talking like I want you to grab a stapler in your vicinity, lay your cock on a coffee table, and just start fucking hammering away at your dick with an opened up stapler.

You deserve it for being such a fucking retard.

ahahahha cunt you are fucked in the brain

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BOY. EVER SINCE THE LEFTISTS DECIDED TO "TAKE OVER" Sup Forums, WE SURE HAVE HAD A LOT OF ISRAEL, COMMUNISM AND GAY BAIT THREADS.

>Woah dude mass monetary and economic fraud and manipulation is okay if it works lmao

>China allows private business and land ownership
>China is communist/socialist

Pick one. There are property rights in China therefore its not communist.

Are you getting mad?

your a faggot

Venezuela and North Korea would be better comparisons.

However, I do have a question. Would EU be a good example now, or after it falls?

It starts failing apart once high tier second world levels are reached.

That graph is stupid as fuck.

It's literally the equivalent of the 'best improvement award' a boss gives to one of their shitty employees.

>Right as soon as they start turning to capitalism

Trying to understand China's market through graphs and (((cnn))) articles is pointless. You either have to travel there or do a lot of research to truely understand what's going on.

Chinese GDP growth is almost entirely driven by the housing market, which is a massive bubble. The only investment 99% of chinese people make are in property. Investors are CONSTANTLY building new property. They build entire cities which nobody lives in, and then continue to build hundreds of buildings in already empty cities in the hopes that people will eventually populate the city and they will see a return on their investment. I should note that Chinese buildings are usually built as cheaply as possible, and the infrastructure is guaranteed to fall apart after a few years.

Has this worked so far? Sure - China has a LOT of potential residents who have yet to move into cities. So historically, investing in property has paid off because people eventually populate the cities. The question is, at what point does China hit a critical mass of supply and the housing market stagnates? What happens when you have hundreds of thousands of unoccupied, crumbling buildings and the gold rush stops? So far, China's response as been to continue building shit because it fuels GDP regardless of inhabitance, but you better believe the growth curve wont last forever.

>the chinese economy is a bubble!
>say desperate (((economist))) for the umpteenth time since 2008

meanwhile

youtube.com/watch?v=vsVydT_oFIo

youtube.com/watch?v=8R-FQTY4KJk

youtube.com/watch?v=SGJ5cZnoodY

youtube.com/watch?v=k6jfZopwvcI

Hahaha, that the best you got, commie fuck?

Are you guys retarded? China is communist, however that's not the part of China that is contributing to this success. What they have are "economic zones" which are mainly coastal city areas where capitalism is allowed. That's where all of their income comes from.

China isn't communist.

They are "oh god if I don't follow this path my country will starve and everyone will fucking die why did they fuck non-stop god damn"-ism

They can't have the luxury of having a diferent idelogy than that

China is communist in name only. They are fairly socialized, but they have aggressive state run corporations that generate a lot of revenue that counts towards GDP.

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>when you need to build empty cities to prevent economic collapse

China is in for hard days my man.

All the cities you linked are tier 1 or tier 2 cities. All of what we recognize as "civilized life" is crammed into some 4-6 cities in China, outside of which there is nothing but poverty and uneducated people. 98% of Chinese fall into that category.

>Give china all our manufacturing
>Men who used to work with their hands now have nothing but welfare and booze
>Chinese people go into an environment where they are industrious and learn to cooperate
>Surprised this boosts their economy

If we didn't cheap out on labour costs, China would never have risen to be our rival as a major world power this soon.

Cutting corners on labour costs literally empowered our enemies.

>Implying China is a Socialist State

okay....... but let me guess, Venezuela is a REAL communist country tho?

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that's capitalism for ya

Can you own a farm or private enterprize in Venezuella?

If there are price controls and government owns 90+% of all means of production, it is communism. Venezuela is going there, China has been distancing from "communism" under this definition for the last 35 years, coincidentally right when they started growing.

Move to China and live the dream if it's so great. I won't hold you back.

No, the fact they have an authoritarian government doesn't mean they are communist.

economic growth is measured by profit for the capitalists

worker wages have stagnated since the 70s in USA, i doubt much has changed for interior chinese workers/peasants

what's your argument there, einstein? go live in china if communism is so good. seriously, do you have brain damage?

china is more capitalist than USA now
USA needs to de regulate and cut gov spending
in short allow free markets

>>b-but communisim doesn't work
Yes, that's what your graph shows.

The US is the Communist state, not China. China is more Capitalist than the US is. The US is Communist because of all the rules and red tape there is to start a business.

>Developing country
>Vs most developed country in the world

its much harder to increase your gdp per capita when its 60,000$ a person, then when its 8,000$ a person. The fact that chinese growth is slowing, means the country is FUCKED because their businesses still dont understand economic practicality. Building homes with no people that can live in them is some of the retarded shit going on there now, that some in the U.S are doing. Housing companies are filling up suburbs with lmao no people there while cities keep businesses from redeveloping to increase the amount of housing so that rents stay high and the city gets maximum kick back.

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government has the power to stop activity

we call it regulation because that is pounded into peoples mind as good and cool

china lets factories build things
USA has tons of parasite jew lawyers stopping all activity unless a crony silently gets to ignore all the rules

>Tax cuts for the wealthy
>Globalization happens
>Rich take their tax cuts
>Spend it on factories in third world countries
>Maximize their profit

I think trump understands this, and has mentioned it in debates how capricious the economy is. Globalism just doesn't work, because the rich take their money to tax havens if you tax them too much. Tax them too little and have no tariffs to off-set price of goods then all the money is invested where it attains its most profit.

So you're saying that the Chinese are...National Socialists? Maybe they aren't so bad after all

>don't trust economists regarding EU immigrants
>don't trust economists regarding brexit
>don't trust economists regarding Trump
>we should trust economists regarding China
Sup Forums in a nutshell

you have no logic

That's state capitalism.

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There is no X capitalism.
There is just capitalism.

jooooz!
Why is 90% of the fed agents jooz?

Don't be fooled. They are soulless and will gladly wipe us out if given even the slightest opportunity.

You think racism is bad in western culture?? Jesus fuck try going anywhere but Hong Kong being non-Chinese and lemme know how it goes.

Wow, so going from $20 a year to $200 is more than going from $12,000 to $50,000.
>this is what socialists actually think

Somehow, you omitted that China has been lifting it's communistic shit to free market for many years now.

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Yes. Shut the fuck up burger.

just wanna see it

Call me when china will be as welthy as USA bye capita,then we can talk,as for now china is shit.They have 3 times the usa population yet there gdp is yust a litle bit higher then the usa pls stfu user.

Then why are they so upset that the US doesn't want to trade with them anymore?

Shouldn't they be self sufficient without us?

Wait!China lows ownership of private buisness?lol comunism at its best ladies and gentleman how pathetic that eaven the guys who purged 20 mil people to acheav comunism needs capitalist ideas yust to work

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Bye the way,you Hong kong cucks are the best example of perfect sociaity,highly intelegant yust like singapurians.

More like fascism in China--business and government in the same bed. Not free market.

China abandoned communism and went straight up fascist nepotism a while ago

yeah, china is experincing this growth thanks to communism, yeah

It's not communist.
Just totalitarian.

Most people live like dogs in china as they should, fucking insects.

They're not communist anymore.

Yeah of course it is, it's easy to be business friendly when you disregard human rights.

>implying that GDP is an accurate system of measurement, and not just a representation of how much money is being shuffled around

>300 million vs 1billion slave laborers

>Start from straw huts and into modern cities in 40 years

No shit GDP per captia growth will be explosive.

stop pretending we all know your a newfag.

Your fucking thread is mostly filled you yourselves being daft or 4chaners calling you fags.

Is berni why all the Reddit commi wana be fags?

They're not really communist. They're a weird capitalist-communist hybrid

Also ask the citizens how happy they are living in china. Their suicide rate is through the roof

China is basically non-regulated capitalism personified.

Their workers are slaving away for literal pennies a day. The government doesn't give a fuck, they just want their GDP up.

This is what American millennial communism is.

China has more of a state capitalist system rather then a planned economy so it isnt really communist
Communism still doesnt work

It's state capitalism you retard, China is not communist except when it comes to individual liberties.

Just saw this video today. Skip to 8:15 to see chinas "economy"

youtube.com/watch?v=BcyYyyaPz84

Or just search china ghost city

>China
>Communist
:^)

China is Chinese, it's stupid to contain them with a silly label, Asians are nothing like any other race on the planet.

>Retard doesn't know about the Kuznets curve for technological development

laugh at this baka

i really hope that this is bait...

>All those empty cities in China clearly aren't implicit of an imminent housing market bubble! No way, Jose! All of those upper class Chinese fleeing to the US and China is clearly just a coincidence, especially after last summer's market scare!

Looks like China's doing great, user.

it's 1/2 meme, and 1/2 reality. Also, nobody fucking said shit about the government agents, faggot. It's the media and their general in-group preference system that makes them what they are; 48% of US's billionaires are jewish. Jewish movie directors are more likely to hire Jewish actors, etc.

It's that sort of shit.

did you mean market socialism

>*sigh*

You could at least make an effort to pretend you're not from reddit

GDP IS FROM COST
it doesn't mean shit if actual production is limited in variety and return. You could have a society of wheat farmers with a gdp in the 6 figures, but mean shit because you entire nation of poor farmers and a world surplus of fucking wheat.

As a hker i would say nothing in china is communism .
The chinese adopted capitalism after reform and opening up , after Mao caused a disaster and killed nearly a billion by his communist agenda .

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Ummm... China has a fucking stock exchange. You can come from overseas and purchase your own property.

Youre

but they aren't communist anymore are they

What is communism and how is it distinct from socialism?

Chinese economy does well because they're more business friendly for manufacturing companies than the West

has nothing to do with Communism