Ok, unpopular pro-Hillary perspective incoming, I'm bracing for the idiots:
So I will disagree that Clinton was a bad candidate, unlikable, etc. People seem to forget everything she did and how popular she was up until mid-2014. So what happened? I believe Clinton will go down as one of the most wrongfully railroaded Presidential candidates in American history, one whose reputation was destroyed in the now fact-free era of social media and the 24/7 right-wing propaganda machine. Don't worry, I'll get to the "scandals".
But first, lets consider the following.
1. Only 3 years ago, after she left the State Department, Hillary Clinton was one of the most popular figures in American politics at the time. In Feb 2013 her favorable ratings were 19 points higher than Joe Biden, and she even far outperformed Obama and Biden at the time as well. She was IMMENSELY popular and liked only 3-years ago. Whats more, during her time as Senator, she was very popular as well.
2. Hillary was one of the most experienced figures in American politics. Former First Lady, 8-years Senator from New York, one of the longest serving Secretary of State. She lived and breathed policy. Detail oriented, knowledgeable, and formidable. Few people could of stood the 10 hours of testimony in front of a biased and hostile benghazi committee witchhunt committee, but she did it and it left them reeling. ((more on benghazi shortly))
3. She was swiftboated, 2004 John Kerry style. The republicans managed to take John Kerry, who honorably served in Vietnam and received multiple medals and commendations, and successfully made him out to be a trooper-hating piece of shit. This is what happened to Clinton. Benghazi, meails, all manufactured scandals designed to sow doubt into the minds of useful liberal idiots who were gullible, and energize their base.
The IG report revealed that nothing she did was beyond the standard (but not greatest) practice of her predecessors (Rice, Powell, etc). In addition the FBI looked at it all and found that nothing she did rose to the level of a crime. Contrary to the fake-news articles and all the BS floating around, she never withheld emails, never refused to turn them over, etc. The GOP congress issued subpoenas after she had already turned them over simply to create headlines that "Congress Subpoenas Clinton to turn over emails", etc. Republicans did to emails what they did to Benghazi. Speaking of which....
5. Benghazi. So what happened here? Have a look.
Number of congressional committees investigating previous terrorist attacks:
0 - Embassy Bombing in Tanzania & Kenya. 200+ dead
0 - Oklahoma City Bombing . 168 victims
1 - Boston Marathon bombing. 5 victims
2 - Sept 11th, 2001 attacks. 2977 victims
2 - USS Cole bombing. 17 victims
2 - Kobar building bombing (housing US troops). 19 victims
9 - Benghazi
Number of congressional hearings on previous terrorist attacks:
5 - Boston Marathon bombing
8 - USS Cole bombing
9 - Oklahoma City bombing
12 -Embassy bombing
14 - Khobar building bombing.
22 - Sept 11th, 2001 attacks
33 - Benghazi
Let these numbers sink let. Look at what was standard-practice not to long ago, and compare it to what happened in Benghazi. NINE investigations and THIRTY-THREE congressional hearings. This is the sheer extent republicans went to in order to make something out of nothing. To keep it in the news constantly and never let it go. And it wasn't like they didn't make their efforts and goals known: GOP House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy to Sean Hannity (in interview, 2015): "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable, But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping.".
Joseph Wright
Other criticisms of her include: 1) taking money from wallstreet. At the end of the day the wall street transcripts revealed nothing controversial, it was a dead issue. Also the fact that she and the organizations she spoke at/to agreed upon X price (whether it was $200,000 for 20 minutes or more) is irrelevant. Both parties agreed to this, but this was another made-up scandal. 2) The DNC rigged the election against Bernie. Say what you want, but at the end of the day Hillary received more votes than Bernie in the primary. She and Bernie had nine debates and twelve public forum engagements. Did the DNC talk shit about Bernie in emails? Sure did, like how the RNC undoubtedly talked shit about Trump and didn't like him. But we will never know for sure because the Wikileaks and the Russians weren't working on Hillary's behalf. Odds and ends: Combine the above with Wikileaks, Russian hackers, an avalanche of fake news, contrived conspiracies, manufactured bullshit, etc.
The result was in three short years, Hillary Clinton who had gone from 65-70% favorable ratings in 2013, a point where she was much higher than Biden or Obama, had been reduced to rubble by the above swiftboating efforts which operated 24/7. And despite her receiving 2+million more votes than Trump in the election, the above still proved to be enough to get people to wrongfully associate her name with "liar" and "corrupt", despite these being actual characteristics of Donald Trump. This isn't an indictment on her character, it's an indictment on the utter stupidity of the American voter and their fundamental lack of history and their inability to identify fake or contrived bullshit.
Gavin Morris
No gun-grabber will ever get my vote.
I'm a one issue voter, sorry that one issue isn't abortion.
Luis Reyes
Benghazi wasn't about what happened in Benghazi. It was about what was happening in Benghazi before the happening in Benghazi.
Cameron Wright
>how popular she was up until mid-2014 The fuck are you talking about? She's been wildly unpopular for years. From back in the days when she was threatening the president's victims, to the "it takes a village" comment that drove off most middle Americans, right through her 2012 election when Obama made her look like an incompetent racist.
Hunter Brooks
The "right wing propaganda" was shitposting on Twitter. The main channels wanted to depict her as likeable . They failed
Andrew Ross
Arguments like this are why Sup Forums is much better than reddit. Personally, I think the people just wanted a populist like Bernie or Trump. Hillary represented the establishment, like Jeb!
Brayden Walker
Funny that you say that because I literally just pasted a Reddit comment.
Henry Long
>John Kerry, who honorably served in Vietnam Rush is that you? you dog i didn't know you came here.
work on that bait tho, this is pretty weak ass
Jason Collins
Since Hillary knew the rules and obligations of her role when the email incident happened, why does she feel that they do not apply to her?
Jose Cooper
>In Feb 2013 her favorable ratings were 19 points higher than Joe Biden,
More like 10. And SoS is farther outside the spotlight than VP, so she got much less negative coverage (or coverage in general). If people have no opinion one way or the other, they're going to say they approve of someone in a poll.
> Hillary was one of the most experienced figures in American politics. Former First Lady, 8-years Senator from New York, one of the longest serving Secretary of State
First lady means jack shit, there are probably over 100 living people who have been a senator for 8+ years, and how is 4 years an unusually long time to be SoS?
>Benghazi, meails, all manufactured scandals designed to sow doubt into the minds of useful liberal idiots who were gullible, and energize their base.
Benghazi was overblown/just another symptom of her overall incompetence. The emails are about willful, flagrant disregard for national security, proactively evading disclosure and transparancy laws, and destruction of evidence during the investigation of the former. Fun fact: Bill Clinton also "accidentally" deleted a metric crapton of emails that were under subpoena when he was being investigated.
>The IG report revealed that nothing she did was beyond the standard (but not greatest) practice of her predecessors (Rice, Powell, etc).
Wrong.
Easton Carter
>In addition the FBI looked at it all and found that nothing she did rose to the level of a crime.
Comey caved to political pressure and hamstrung the investigation. Hundreds of FBI agents resigned or threatened to resign due to his handling of the email investigation.
>Contrary to the fake-news articles
If you're the kind of idiot who would even use "fake news" unironically, what the hell are you doing on Sup Forums? I bet you think the Podesta emails were muh russian forgeries too.
> taking money from wallstreet.
You're arguing that because she and wallstreet both agreed on how much money she would get that it's perfectly fine?
>The DNC rigged the election against Bernie. Say what you want, but at the end of the day Hillary received more votes than Bernie in the primary.
Stanford researchers have proven there was vote flipping in Clinton's favor, and caucuses make total vote counts less meaningful.
>But we will never know for sure because the Wikileaks and the Russians weren't working on Hillary's behalf.
Wikileaks publishes what it is given, and has stated directly that it wasn't Russia. In fact Assange strongly hinted it was a DNC staffer (who later was "murdered" under suspicious circumstances).
Jonathan Bennett
> Hillary Clinton who had gone from 65-70% favorable ratings in 2013, a point where she was much higher than Biden or Obama, had been reduced to rubble by the above swiftboating efforts which operated 24/7.
Her favorability has been on an uninterrupted downward spiral since 2010. The more people find out about her, the less they like her. She had the entirety of the mainstream media, we had Breitbart and Facebook. If she loses that fight, that's 100% on her.
>wrongfully associate her name with "liar" and "corrupt", despite these being actual characteristics of Donald Trump.
You mean Ms. "Abe Lincoln made me do it!" is viewed as a liar? The hell you say!
Jaxon Martin
>Hillary was one of the most experienced figures in American politics. Former First Lady, 8-years Senator from New York, one of the longest serving Secretary of State.
she used her husband's political connections to create her own through leveraging power as well as his name. she's a snake and nothing more, the very worst of politics
>The IG report revealed that nothing she did was beyond the standard
Comey testified in front of congress that she broke the law and then lied about it.
>Number of congressional committees investigating previous terrorist attacks:
yes cases where there's a quagmire of political incompetence and unnecessary loss of American life do tend to get investigated more
>At the end of the day the wall street transcripts revealed nothing controversial >public private positions
ha
>an avalanche of fake news
so much salt
>The result was in three short years, Hillary Clinton who had gone from 65-70% favorable ratings in 2013... reduced to rubble...
yeah seeing all the skeletons in the clinton closet really has a way a building an unfavorable view huh. People know too much to like her anymore
>This isn't an indictment on her character, it's an indictment on the utter stupidity of the American voter and their fundamental lack of history and their inability to identify fake or contrived bullshit.
I am put a simple salt farmer, tending my salt fields
Jacob Jackson
>Benghazi, emails, all manufactured scandals not too manufactured for fbi investigation and many congressional hearings you low info hick.
seriously for all the accusations of being 'uneducated', liberals are the uninformed malleable retard voter base. you don't even understand what these scandals were about, they're just buzzwords to you.
Alexander Martin
She's a right winger warmonger running as a liberal. We've had eight years of that. People wanted Sanders. Had the media covered Sanders half as much as Clinton, he would have kicked her ass. The left has no one to vote for, so they stayed home. The establishment thought they could scare people into voting for her. It didn't work.
At least Trump is honest about what he is. He will dismantle this country though. Back when America was great, the rich paid their share. We'll never see those days again. America will continue the third world slide and both parties are responsible.
John Green
disgusting
Christian Hughes
I don't believe you believe this, Bye.
Luke Baker
>Arguments like this are why Sup Forums is much better than reddit.
To be fair, at least on leddit I don't have to spend half my life clicking street signs and rivers.
Josiah Ortiz
I agree with you on the most part. Republicans have spent millions on investigating Clinton with zero results.
Their motivation for doing so will hit rock bottom with the new congress. We will see how concerned they are about Hillary now that she has very little chance of running again.
Daniel Howard
It was definitely a change election.
Kevin Hill
Fuck off you fucking lefty.
Leo Gomez
People started wearing bandaids with purple hearts drawn on them.
That is a pretty shitty thing to do.
Christopher Bell
We don't need congress, just an FBI without leadership throwing roadblocks up everywhere.
No need for a special prosecutor or Gowdy or Chaffetz to take the lead. Just ditch Comey and put someone in who'll let investigators do their jobs. for once The rest will take care of itself.
David Cooper
They didn't apply to Powell.
Benjamin Howard
Even King Nigger didn't like her faggot.
Joseph Campbell
You're totally wrong. Republicans didn't convince democrats to hate her, being in competition with Bernie (partially) lifted the SJW blinders off a lot of them and they realized how bad of a candidate she was when they were rooting for Bernie
Lucas Nelson
>highest unfavorables in history >every single millenial berniebot hated her (ALL hillbots dislike bernie vice-versa) >literally making obama voters switch to republican
L O S E R
Brandon James
What difference does it make, at this point?
Gavin Gonzalez
And when exactly did Powell send top secret information with his private email? Or give classified information to his fucking maid to print on an unsecure printer? Or let classified emails wind up on the laptop of a disgraced pervert/pedo ex-congressman?
Colton Jenkins
Clinton is the worst fucking candidate in the history of this country.
1. She piggy backed off Bill's talent as a politician.
2. She got the senator seat because people felt bad for her cuz Bill cucked her.
3. She used the woman card everywhere she want.
4. She is immoral and sold her soul a long time ago for money and fame.
5. Flip-flopped on every damn issue, as long as it suited her or her "handlers."
6. Terrible public speaker. Totally unlikeable. Zero charisma. You need charisma to be a president and have people vote for you, not out of hate for the other candidate, but FOR you.
7. She really has no stance on ANYTHING, except what her handlers tell her to do. IE, the global elites (her owners and funders) want open borders and decimation of all white people because it's good for "their" business and to keep people dumb and in line. Think: Worldwide Communism. Well, she is used as a central figure for that.
8. She's a giant puppet for the elite. She is not a nationalist, she's a globalist.
9. You don't gain any experience as first lady, so that's moot.
10. She's an opportunist that knows how to survive "the game" just long enough to not drown. She knows how to take down opponents (she helped Bill win the White House twice).
11. She endangered national security by opening classified documents to foreign agents. Who knows if Russia/China didn't have access to her emails way back in 2009? Or even before?
12. Her resume is overhyped. Most of the positions she got was out of pity and because she's a former first lady. She's still living off the Clinton last name.
13. She has no talent.
14. Her foreign policy experience is nothing special. She's literally doing what Kissinger taught her (ie arming rebels and overthrowing governments that are a threat to the United States foreign theaters). It's literally shit CIA used to do (ie with the Shah of Iran in the 70s). It's all the same, she's nothing special. She's a rinse and repeat candidate.
Adrian Johnson
hillery who? what is this irrelevant shit
Alexander Allen
This And if he did, he should not be off the hook either.
What makes you think that we don't just believe that everyone should be accountable for their actions? Especially officials acting in an official capacity.
Jayden Nelson
Subtle. Nice one.
Camden Kelly
She was also a senator and the most politically active first ladies since Eleanor Roosevelt.
The emails are a clerical concern. Colin Powell believed the charges were bs. I will take his word on the matter over concern trolls that also claimed she is responsible for dozens of murders and a satanic pedophilic human trafficking cabal.
Ryan Thomas
This is clearly bait
nobody likes hillary clinton.
Jose Johnson
>2. She got the senator seat because people felt bad for her cuz Bill cucked her.
Just realized something: she got into the senate because Rick Lazio invaded her personal space and got labeled as sexist...then she lost to Trump.
Alexander Peterson
I like it when low IQ CTR shills like OP get salty
John James
>What makes you think that we don't just believe that everyone should be accountable for their actions? Especially officials acting in an official capacity.
Absolutely. But even discussing the validity of the "Powell did it too!" defense implicitly concedes that Powell actually did it, when all available evidence refutes that.
Aaron Smith
>She was also a senator and the most politically active first ladies since Eleanor Roosevelt.
I know this is bait but I will answer.
Her record is overhyped as a first lady (Arkansas and USA), Senator AND Sec of State.
It doesn't take a genius to have any of these positions. Many people before her have done it and have done it better than her.
She's literally a continuation of the system that we have -- she has no new ideas.
The difference between her and other people liek Eleanor Roosevelt is that HIllary enriched herself by taking funds from foreign agents -- which leaves the doors for pay for play.
NO ONE in the history of the United States has done it so openly as her.
Yes, most politicians are in the pockets of foreign agents, but she IS the GOLD STANDARD of this and built a career out of it.
Who the fuck has a 250 million fortune by being "out of work" and giving speeches?
Fuck off cunt.
Aiden Campbell
>Just realized something: she got into the senate because Rick Lazio invaded her personal space and got labeled as sexist...then she lost to Trump.
This.
Also don't forget Democrat Kennedy Jr. (who was supposed to run in 1999) died in a plane crash.
Also her other Republican opponent somehow died too.
Coincidence?
Why do people around Clintons die all the time? Because they eliminate their opponents because they can't win fair and square.
Brody Robinson
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Charles Long
>the most politically active first ladies since Eleanor Roosevelt.
So she used her unearned fame to attention whore. Who cares?
>The emails are a clerical concern. Colin Powell believed the charges were bs.
Powell had his own issues with security (though not nearly to Clinton's degree, by all accounts). He's in no position to exonerate anyone.
Noah Johnson
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Alexander Morris
Resignation or not, it doesn't change the fact that the emails wasn't prosecutable. If the emails were a legitimate concern, you wouldn't see Trump and Guliani waffling on the topic.
The top site for "Soros paid protestor" is a confession on ABC.com.co. Fake news is a real concern for those that don't benefit from paranoia and fear.
In regards to Wall Street, maybe pressure Trump to not higher so many people from it.
Justin Williams
>So I will disagree that Clinton was a bad candidate, unlikable, etc. People seem to forget everything she did and how popular she was up until mid-2014.
>I wasn't alive in the 90s but I'll claim to know all about it
redpills out the arse in this thread, good shit fellas
Samuel White
>Comey caved to political pressure
Comey caved because Anthony Weiner was charged for sexting a minor. It then lead to Clinton because mails weren't deleted
Jace Carter
Reddits inferior system and left-authoritarian-fag-jew leadership stifles discussion and creates circle-jerking echo chambers vacant of any original thought.
/r/circlejerk is more intellectually honest than the political discussions on that site.
Caleb Roberts
>Resignation or not, it doesn't change the fact that the emails wasn't prosecutable.
Bahahahahahaha.
>If the emails were a legitimate concern, you wouldn't see Trump and Guliani waffling on the topic.
Trump has bigger worries at the moment than sending a 70 year old woman to jail, and continuing to publicly shit on Clinton is counterproductive in many ways. All Trump needs to do is hire an FBI director who won't fuck up like Comey did and it will all take care of itself without Trump needing to get his hands dirty.
>The top site for "Soros paid protestor" is a confession on ABC.com.co. Fake news is a real concern for those that don't benefit from paranoia and fear.
Not seeing that particular link, but if you don't believe moveon.org is behind the anti-Trump riots, you're just deliberately ignoring reality. I'm sure if you look a little further down that results page you'll find plenty of stories from non-"fake" news sites.
>In regards to Wall Street, maybe pressure Trump to not higher so many people from it.
Nothing wrong with Trump hiring Mnuchin for Treasury, as long as Trump isn't hiring him because he's on Mnuchin's payroll. Of course you hire people with relevant experience.
Logan Campbell
>So what happened? MSM polls lie. It is that simple. She was never as popular as (((they))) wanted YOU to think she was.
It was a forced popularity....It is similar to eating too much food, than projectile vomiting later on. It was never "Her Turn".
Caleb Taylor
Comey caved to pressure from Clinton/Lynch. Notifying Chaffetz that he was reopening the investigation was simply fulfilling a promise he made under oath previously.
And y'know who *didn't* have clearance to see those emails and who would never have had them in the first place if Clinton/Abedin had taken national security even a tiny bit seriously? Anthony Weiner.
Owen Torres
Amazing how she played the race card over and over again when running against obama. She was divisive as fuck and played up the mudshit born in Africa thing, counting on getting the rayciss white man vote. Come 2016 she's flipped it to make trump the bad guy while still fear mongering - this time as a champion for Muslims and blacks. Youve got nothing of value to offer if you need to use identity politics.
Aaron Hernandez
God damn I wish I had been older in the 90's so I would have been more aware of all this.
All I remember about Bill's Presidency is "I did not have sexual relations with that woman", him arguing about the definition of sexual relations, and I think Operation Foxfire.
I was too young and listening to too much Ase of Base.
Jacob Ward
she was able to be prosecuted for the emails. it was a blatant disregard for the rule of law that allowed her to walk free. remember the private meetings the attorney general had with bill on the plane right before she made the decision? it was fishy as all hell. there's also people who have their careers ruined or who are in jail who committed the same crimes as she did. the biggest tell of all is that general patraeus mishandled classified materials and his file was hundreds of pages. hillary's was only 4 fucking pages long. the corruption is right in front of your face and you refuse to see it
what the argument for hillary not being guilty was that she didn't know she couldn't do that. yeah, okay. go fuck yourself, you stupid nigger faggot
>i'm sorry officer i didn't know i couldn't drink and drive and go 20 over
Lucas Martinez
>It was a forced popularity....It is similar to eating too much food, than projectile vomiting later on. It was never "Her Turn".
THIS.
She was a propped candidate by the elite and idiot libtards ate it up. Her biggest "selling point" was that she was a WYMYN.
If anyone remembers the Clintons in the 90s, they were literally shitted on. They were never known as being liberals or progressives.
Hildog has switched sides so many times, no one knows what the fuck shes after PERSONALLY, but read some of her Goldman Sachs speeches, THAT's the REAL Hilldog. That's why she never made those public because it's so damning.
She's an MK Ultra candidate. Using so many fucking psyop tactics just to get ahead. White noise machines, obfuscation, propaganda, etc. She had a good team working for her, but they never took into account the blowback they would get after being exposed by Trump & millions of free-thinking online trolls.
This "fake news" bullshit is another excuse for the dying old media to make themselves relevant.
Asher Cook
I'm going to let you in on a little secret;
We don't care.
We don't care about Hillary. We don't care about her proposals.
Remember how Trump said after the election;
>I'm not going to pursue her legally
You know why? Because he doesn't care.
We. Don't. Care.
She was an obstacle. That's it. Nothing more. She could have been a lump of wood. Her character, history and policies are irrelevant to us.
Pic related.
Evan Reed
>This "fake news" bullshit is another excuse for the dying old media to make themselves relevant.
Depends how hard facebook/google jump on board. At best it's the last gasp of the old media. At worst it's the first step towards the literal Ministry of Truth (conveniently unhampered by the first amendment, since Google is a private company).
Chase Bailey
Remember that there is the possibility that Trump is only not pursuing her right now because Obama can still pardon her.
If that is the case then once he is in office and does go after her, we will finally have confirmation of moving into the best timeline.
And if he doesn't then you are right. At this point what does it matter.
Aiden Lee
HILLARY WAS CORRUPT BEFORE 2014
HER PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE US WHY THE NATION HATES HER
WE WILL NEVER FORGET WACO
Brandon James
>Fake News is a real concern
No complaints from Hillary when the avalanche of Fake News was falling in her favor.
No complaints from Hillary or her team right now as The Washington Post prints Fake News articles calling for the jailing of political opponents.
If you're genuine and new to the board, I'm going to give you advice that you, like all leftists, won't take;
Stop giving us tools to use against you.
Fake News was a specialty of the left.
Salon, Huffington Post, CNN, and on and on and on. All blatant lies and obfuscation and shilling.
So the right (and you will also need to understand the distinction between the "right" and Murdoch's Neo-Con's) said fuck it; That looks like a useful method for reaching normies.
The left taught the right how to utilize propaganda and appealing to emotion to bypass facts.
Secondly; Identity politics. By making everything about gender and race, you allowed us to appeal directly to white men, who could unify for no other reason than being white.
Thirdly, agitation and destabilisation. Obama's adherence to the Chicago school of activism, Alinsky and friends, also came in really handy in terms of adopting their tactics.
The point is - Cry about Fake News and Racism all you want, but it was YOU who made them accessible tools of coercion.
Just as you now label anything that is politically oppositional "fake news" and "KGB NAZI FROGS", we too will commence to label anything we disagree with as Marxist infiltration and conspiracy theories.
Hey, we noticed you also want to start legally blocking news media you disagree with. Good idea. Maybe Trump can have a look at the New York Times and CNN.
Benjamin Howard
>Depends how hard facebook/google jump on board. At best it's the last gasp of the old media. At worst it's the first step towards the literal Ministry of Truth (conveniently unhampered by the first amendment, since Google is a private company).
It doesn't matter. Capitalism allows for businesses to compete.
Facebook/Google are private corporations. They can do whatever they want. It's not a government run operation like Pravda and RT.
If people stop using their products and if a competing product comes along, they will go down in flames.
This is what's so great about the United States, the new washes away the old -- this is why USA will never become a fascist state.
One day Google and Facebook will go away.
Twitter is dying as we speak.
Asher Sanchez
Get a Sup Forums pass.
Eli Hernandez
That's why the legacy media is now screaming (into the void mostly) for "someone" (the government) to step in and do "something" (block) "fake news" (facts that undermine our narrative building).
Even normies are calling out the Washington Post and CNN over their latest attempts to harass journalists and shut down news outlets by printing blatant propaganda about KGB Nazi Russian Infiltrators Using Magic To Hack The Election.
It won't work. It's like watching a fish flop on the deck.
Matthew Young
Would you fuck off with your retarded copypasta already? Someone made this thread last week ffs.
Jeremiah Wright
>People seem to forget everything she did and how popular she was up until mid-2014 she was famous for munching box and murdering gaddafi. plus covering up benghazi to help obama.
Carson Johnson
stop with the fucking reddit spacing
Xavier Martinez
>Russian hackers lol
Also Clinton and Obama support al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria while lying to the American people calling these terrorists "democratic freedom fighters".
Kayden Anderson
>Plebbit
I don't post there you faggot. It's just a stream of conscienceless. I'm not writing a college paper here asshole.
John Jones
But John Kerry was a soldier hating bastard, and a warmonger to boot. He described US troops as terrorizing innocent Iraqis, coming in the dead of night to brutalize women and children.
Juan Carter
>Detail oriented, knowledgeable, and formidable.
No. Have you read her book about her time as SoS (Hard Choices)? It is a wall of platitudes and banalities.
She is a third rate thinker, if that. This is why she lost. She is not very competent. Same reason she left the middle east a smoking ruin due to her inept, idiotic and short-sighted policies.
On top of that the way she prioritized radical feminist ideology over US interests and over getting things done.
Consistently 45%-55% from 1992-2008, except for a solid 10 point shecuck bump in 1998/99. Then 60%-65% while SoS, followed by a sharp decline to ~40% between then and early 2016. From there Trump managed to shave off even a few more points.
Levi Collins
saying you're the most experienced person in american politics is pretty much like saying hey now Al Capone was one of the most experienced mob bosses
its a bad thing
Juan Williams
You forget that she lost Wisconsin , Ohio, Michigan, and even Minnesota well before the general election.
She lost primaries in those states to either Obama or Sanders. In some cases, both.
Her own party didn't want her, OP, for various reasons.
Obama got 69.5 million votes in 2008. Hillary will end up with about 62.5.
That's 7 million people who voted for Obama in 2008 who didn't want HIllary.
Deal with it.
You put up a weak candidate who had no message. The first thing that comes to people's minds when they see her husband is infidelity at best, rape at worst.
A fellow left winger, Christopher Hitchens, said everything you need to know about your girl, Hillary.
>The DNC rigged the election against Bernie. Say what you want, but at the end of the day Hillary received more votes than Bernie in the primary. >Say what you want, but at the end of the day Hillary received more votes than Bernie in the primary. >Hillary received more votes than Bernie in the primary.
Because it was rigged...............
Parker Hughes
>Most qualified
Look at her time as SoS and it's Bush Jnr tier shit.
Parker Moore
>reddit spacing
reddit doesn't use spacing. Sup Forums uses line spacing, you filthy fucking new fag.
Jordan Jackson
I never went to reddit but i got permbanned on that other chan, despites years of lurking there becuase my correction of some conspiracy theory taking place in belgium was "shilling' thus discredited, even though I'm a Belgian commenting on an event taking place in belgium and having extended knowledge commenting on some site with a bunch of conspiracy shit. Every site is a echo chamber hugbox, until anyonymous discussion can't be derailed by the power of thiose that disagree with you and you are still able to reach the widest audience possible, it's not really what you guys claim it is.
Kevin Lee
OP is a fucking retard, I can't believe you typed all that shit you delusional faggot. There's only one thing that needs to be said, kicked off the fucking watergate committees for being unethical
