Fascism

Can someone explain what fascism is, exept "ebil racists n shiet"?

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A system of government characterized by extreme collectivism in both economic and social spheres.

Proper fascism should be theocratic Greco-Roman Christo-pagan re-constructionism.

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It's basically socialism without "weakness is our strength"

honor, strength, virtue, self sacrifice for greater good, destiny, greatness, power, destruction of evil, removal of undesirabilities.

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Fascism was made in Italy for Italy. All you other nordcucks canot understand and applicate it.

A reactionary collectivist government, both socially and economically. Characterized by nationalism (whether ethnic or not), nationalization of certain industries, and usually revanchism.

Corporatism

Retard

Can someone explain to me what google is. except that thing that comes up when I open my interwebz browser?

Hitler made it racist. At the beginning there wasn't any racism in fascist Italy.

Fascism is evil anyway.

It makes the lives of women horrible.

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Good goy, 0.2 shekels have been deposited to your account.

>101049456
racism as a word didn't even exist.

Yes there was they used to go around beating up people who were pro democracy and pro immigration

The government is a single party state with pro-nationalist policies.

The economic stance is left-leaning capitalism. Germany was more or less keynesian with nationalization or subsidization of key sectors, Italy tried to implement corporatism (division of labor into government-administrated trade unions).

The government focuses on policies involving the "national spirit", which is, they aim first to protect their culture and make their citizens happy and prosperous, instead of materialistic ideas (who should get what--like the commies and capitalists are concerned with).

Fascism triggers lefties because it has been a massive success everywhere it was implemented, while their beloved communism has alwayd failed and resulted in red terror and famine.

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Get it straight from the tap.
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corporatism

This

it's a game

Not an argument. If you think fascism is just state corporatism you are dumb as fuck.

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Yes but his version was the opposite of America atm.

In Fascism, the state controls corporations so they don't promote degeneracy or sell shitty products, even if that corporation has a monopoly.

In america, the corporations effectively run the state.

actually not a Mussolini quote at all

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Exactly. No one worth listening to is saying America is fascist atm.

its called corporativism and it was a way to organize the economy

an extremely collectivist state, where the state runs corporations which exist to serve the state, and the state's people. It seeks to estenqiush all wills of people who benefit in the damage of the state, or in economic exchanges which damage the state. Historically, it is also an expansionist and incredibly xenophobic political philosophy, but it doesn't need to be necessarily. In an ideal fascist state there would be very little time wasting, and anything that didn't serve the state or the state's interests would be restricted. That would probably also include things such as Video Games, Porn, or international stock trading.

>xenophobic

How did you infer that i meant 'fascism is just state corporatism' from my post. I merely stated that corporatism is heavily linked with fascism, if you had a brain to understand that without 1000 words.

>it has been a massive success everywhere it was implemented

Not arguing, just asking for examples so I can do my own research

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if you listen carefully you can hear the speaker start off angry every time he says state until he hits the part about what the state is

>collectivism
>the practice or principle of giving a group priority over each individual in it.
So when a company hires women and niggers to meet diversity quotas that falls under facism?

He wanted an honest take on what fascism is, and historically. Yes, wanting to literally genocide 3/5 of the earth's population is xenophobic. Also removing all economic/social/political rights based on ethnicity is also xenophobic.

I've also literally never used Reddit

The quote was popularized by Aaron Russo documentary America: Freedom to Fascism. But there is no evidence that Mussolini himself ever said this.

>wanting to literally genocide 3/5 of worlds population
i hope this is bait
i'll give you 11 million jews and fags just to shut you up but no more than that

Fascism is the militant enforcement of society so that embracement of nationalism, silence of the opposition and elimination of an "other" become commonplace amongst the core ethnic group of the country.

Essentially a fascist is an authoritarian, it was in its political use in Italy and is essentially Natsoc in Nazi germany but now a Fascist is an authoritarian that suppresses the individual and democracy, essentially it covers both sides of the political extreme, the extreme right, Nazi and the extreme left Communist both are fascists in their practices.

Its an application of working class values, but guided towards reaction instead of radicalism. Instead of using government as an engine for a Great Leap Forward, making culture more progressive, it uses government to reinforce the identity and values that already exist.

Basically socialism, only instead of SJW collectivist shills its a but of fedora tipping betas marching behind a strongman.

what game ?
want this

Mussolini directly defined it himself, here
mtholyoke.edu/courses/rschwart/hist151/MUSSOLINI.pdf

The marriage of corporations and government. Pretty much it's (((socialism))) for 3edgy5me stormfaggots and weebs.

>Communism is Fascism
wew

how?

They're both the same shit just on the other end, that's why fascism is interchangeable in the end they're saying the same garbage but pretending it's different.

no I disagree.
Theocratic implies it wold be ruled by some type of religious entity, whereas it would just have a national religion.

A Marxist heresy.

It was made in France.

no not at all.
it's a completely different theory than socialism.
Read Mussolini's doctrine of fascism and perhaps you will be a little more enlightened

Should make it clear that in a fascist state, anyone using this board would be in a re-education camp or killed. I mean, unless a Kekist state is developed.

A communist can be a fascist, doesn't necessarily have to be nationalistic they're essentially doing the exact same thing for different reasons and suppressing ideology that is center leaning.

It is different, but only in the sense of what group its trying to protect. Communism is for the poorfags, SJWs, jews, the out group. Fascism is for the beta males and redneck provincial mouth-breathers.

Identity politics is for losers, no matter what side you are on

No it was not.

>That pencil neck

Gymrats are the worst. Play a real sport

>facism

Why can't people spell this word correctly?

wew lad
you're dumb

Not necessarily. A fascist state adapts to the conditions and the people it controls.

Just like how George Lincon Rockwell wanted a more free-market capatalist Nazi state in the US, which in theory is against German Nazism.

And like how Cordineau and Franco were significantly more religious Fascists. The state is authoritarian but its authority is initially defined by the people it rules

Yes it was. Read "The Birth of Fascism" by Zeev Sternhell. Fascism started out in France but came to power in Italy, because the French wing of national syndicalism (future fascism) didn't have a figure like Mussolini.

Secret Hitler

Exactly hence why both can be fascists they both rely on these retarded ideals that boil down to identity politics the difference is a communist pretends to be for the people and not their state..

it's not about wiping out other people. It's not about that at all
read
mtholyoke.edu/courses/rschwart/hist151/MUSSOLINI.pdf

Keep proving these awesome points, faggot.

its like communism except you get to choose between two professions instead of one

communist is internationalist fascism is nationalist
fascism proves socialism is wrong by showing that class is not the end all be all in the divisions of man and in fact the classes are just subdivisions in the nation.

>confusing fascism with nazism

okay well I will go so far as to say that fascism as we know it today was made popular in Mussolini's Italy

>Sup Forums is natsoc
>Sup Forums doesn't know what natsoc is

wew lad

Yeah I know. But the modern use of it implies simply that you're an authoritarian so the best way to trigger commies is to call them fascists because it's almost identical in what they're perceiving it to be but we know the political differences but that argument is useless to explaining it to any retard who wants to use the term.

That's easy OP, everything I don't like is fascism.

Read "the doctrine of fascism" by Mussolini and you will gain some insight. I have been speaking of it in this thread for some time now because I think it is probably the most basic document on fascism one should read desu senpai
mtholyoke.edu/courses/rschwart/hist151/MUSSOLINI.pdf

Facsism was the "third way." It was self described as an alternative to capitalism and communism, and neither left nor right wing. While capitalism focused on the individual and communism on class, facism focused on the "corporation." Was a person a farmer? An artist? A scientist? Your occupational group determined a person's place in facist society.

Every fascist state from Portugal to Hungary shared some basic characteristics.

1. Welfare state
2. Autarky (which led to imperialism to sustain it)
3. Ethnic nation building (either positive or negative eugenics. i.e. Italy encouraged Italians to have more babies (positive). Germany sterilized non germans (negative). Et cetera)
4. Radical ideaology
5. Violence

Ps - Israel is a fascist state

*5. State sponsored violence

It was also a socialist ideology. Its brand of socialism is called 'corporatism'. Fascist Italy had the most state controlled economy after Soviet Union.

national socialism and fascism are not the same in that NS is fascism (sort of) but fascism is not NS.
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>implying Sup Forums is one entity
wew lad

>Sup Forums is one person

Fascism was explicitly a reaction to Communism and able to thrive because the center had become weak. Horseshoe theory is nonsense.

>nationalized control of the memes of production

How isn't it?

It wasn't a reaction to Communism. It was a reaction to liberalism.

Fascism was not the nursling of a doctrine previously drafted at a desk; it was born of the need of action, and was action

but compared to socialism where the workers are supposed to "own the means " of production, does that exist in a fascist state?

Identity politics will always defeat an egalitarian society. Deal with it.

>all these literal retards not understanding fascism
>putting "reactionary" "racist" and all other bolshevik chains to Fascism
KEK
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NONE of you understand Fascism you're all subhuman animals.

The eternal leaf

You're an absolute idiot if you think your nation and especially european nations can persist if people of completely different races make up the majority.

It wasn't, it was born out of the political environment at the time, the commies weren't on Italian minds during this period.

>implying there's a difference

dis goy gets it

Salazar's Portugal, Germany before they got bombed to the stone age, Italy before they went to war with the major powers, the modern economy of the nordic countries is also pseudo-fascist.

>thinking Fascists give a flying fuck about ideologies like reactionary and other bullshit
There is only hunger, strength, honor, pride, race, nation, army, and order.

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but isn't socialism supposed to say the workers own the means of production, and the state is just an extension of the workers?
Is it not different in fascism?

I would define it as strict adherence to Natural Law

Fascism is not reactionary, it is Fascist.

Yeah, the thing for me is that in a fascist society the leader has the power to shape the culture. They have propaganda, military youth programs, paramilitary and military conscription programs, strong nationalism, an enemy or rival to unite against, a single nationwide religion, and the power of censorship. A nation should be able to get different races to have the same culture, or at minimum two different cultures to work together with that kind of influence.

Besides, differences in culture between nations ensure that there is still a unified culture in yours. Sure, you may be white and your neighbor black. But you're both Christian and have the same culture (assuming the nation is fascist), went through all the same indoctrination and training, you have served side by side in the military, and all media that might try to divide you has been censored. Meanwhile, the other country you both mutually hate is filled with muslims with a different culture who you would never let in to your country, not because of their race, but because of incompatible cultures, ideologies, and religions.

I mean, we've seen every race at its worst and best. We've seen the both the crusaders of old and the modern timid white europeans. We've seen African child eating warlords, and Ethiopian Christians holding back the muslim tide. We've seen China and Russia before communism and after communism, and the radical difference that made. The culture is the only thing that matters, nothing else. And when you have the control over peoples lives that fascism gives you, race means nothing unless you want it to.

>Fascist Logic

And that's why liberalism is so contradictory. It calls for the races to come together, but then opposes the very means by which they might do so. Races are opposed currently not because of their skin color, but because they have different cultures when attempting to cooperate. But without that authoritarianism to stomp out any opposing culture and raise your own, indoctrinating the population from birth, and without the nationalism and shared hatred of the enemy, you can't unite the races properly.

So, in conclusion, the only real way for all the races to get along is fascism. Pure, undiluted, authoritarian, corporatist, nationalist, fascism.

You and your black comrade shall be born in the same hospital. You will both go to the same type of school, where you will both be indoctrinated to love your country, love God and Christianity, and hate the enemy. You will both be put through the same trials in the military youth program, then you will both be conscripted into the army when you come of age. Boot camp will break both of you down further, molding both of you into good soldiers ready to die for each other and your country. You and your black comrade shall fight side by side killing the enemy heathens from a hostile culture, you will see whites and blacks bleeding for each other on the battlefield and you will be willing to do the same. Then, you and him will either die for your country, or you will survive and live to raise your own kids. Maybe you and him have a wife of a different race, it matters not, because your kids will be sent to the same schools and go through the same indoctrination and experiences you did.

This, putting ideologies such as liberalism Communism and other fake nonsense on the same level as the hunger, the strength, the race and such is stupid.

Fascism believes in no ideology.

"Not making an argument" the argument.

Read the rest of the thread mangia-cake.

Communism is reactionary to Fascism because Fascism is nature.

God is Fascist.
Nature is Fascist.
Fascism is truth, not an ideology.