/left/ General

Greetings Comrades

This thread is for the discussion of any and all left-wing political ideology, including, but not limited to, Marxism/Socialism/Communism/Anarchism/Syndicalism/etc.

>Socialism is an economic and social system defined by social ownership of the means of production. (Workers democratically own and operate the places in which they work, as opposed to private power aka capitalism)

>The means of production are non-human inputs the create economic value, such as factories, workplaces, industrial machinery, etc. Socialists refer to the means of production as capital, or private property. Private property in the socialist context shouldn't be confused with personal property, such as your home, car, computer, and other possessions.

>In a capitalist society the means of production are owned and controlled privately, by those that can afford them (the capitalist aka those with capital). Production is carried out to benefit the capitalist (production for profit). Workers are paid a wage, and receive that amount regardless of how much value they produce.

>Communism is the highest developed stage of socialism wherein there is no state, no money, no class system. The means of production are owned by all and provide for everyone's needs.

Resources:

ABC's of Socialism: s3.jacobinmag.com/issues/jacobin-abcs.pdf

Introduction to Marxism by Professor Richard D. Wolff: youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

Selections of Left-wing Literature:
theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4
youtube.com/watch?v=06-XcAiswY4
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

Communism has been tried plenty of times and it has never succeeded.

neck yourself commie fag

Mmmm

Niceme.me

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Sage.

Fuck off with your nonsense. Sup Forums isnt left.

The only good communist is a dead communist. And by Lord Kek's decree this is now a Spurdo thread where we gain his favour by posting Spurdos and gaining repeating numbers :---DDD
Fug gommies xD

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Hello comrades!

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This is for all the newfags that don't know anything about leftist subversion tactics.

Leftists are perfectly aware that right wingers (mostly mainstream ones) love to make everyone know that they're good people, so they exploit that weakness.
That is one of the main reasons why leftists were allowed entry into institutions of great importance (government, academia, even religious ones).

By now, you've probably noticed their favorite talking point, they're constantly repeating how Sup Forums is turning into a "safe space". They are trying to soften us up, "You don't wanna be like those SJWs, now do you?", so they can then slither into our board and establish a presence with minimum resistance from Sup Forumsacks. They don't want to peacefully coexist (even though they're pretending how they only want that and nothing more) with right wingers on this board, their goal is to INFILTRATE, slowly CHANGE the course of Sup Forums, and finally, REMAKE it into their own image, like they did with every other mainstream institution in the past 50 years.

Fourth rule from Saul Alinsky's book "Rules for Radicals" says the following:

>Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.

I would also add STANDARDS next to rules. They are using that tactic on Sup Forums right now. They whine how Sup Forums is oppressing them, while, at the same time, they act a hundred times more brutal towards any opposition on their left wing forums. If you state a different opinion you get nuked with downvotes, your thread gets instantly deleted before anyone even manages to comment, and, finally, you get banned.

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Learn how to ignore when someone from your "team" does something bad, don't instantly rush to disavow your people, remember what i said in the first sentence, don't allow leftists to use that weakness against you. Notice how leftists were lecturing Trump supporters after the election about alleged hate crimes "MUH HATE CRIME SPIKE", while their own scumbags were rioting and beating up Trump supporters.

None of those "hate crimes" were reported to the police, those that were reported turned out to be hoaxes. Leftists do that all the time, google "hate crime hoaxes" if you don't believe me.

As for myself, i live in a post-communist country, and i'm not gonna be lectured about Communism by some 20 year old Western European/North American Nu-Male that never had a real job and that still lives with his parents. Everything Ted Kaczynski said about their shitty, collectivist kind is 100% correct. Don't give them an inch and always try to ruin their threads with as much shitposts as humanly possible. ALWAYS ridicule them, because as Alinsky says in his 5th rule "Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions."

youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4 Ex-KGB officer reveals subversive tactics against western societies.

cuckmunism fails 100% of the time
top kek

O shid XDDDD

literally every time.

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Comrades!
Victory will be ours!

NAZIS WATCH OUT!!!

not yet

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So was capitalism tried and it took like 300 years to finally get its hold. Communism has a 100 year old history, so cut it some slack.

youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

FUCKING KILL COMMIES

AND LEAFS

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Fuck off, reddit. NK can't get planes off the ground and Cuba is stuck in the 1950s.

SAGE

Truth

>Being Anti-Leftist/Communist is stormfront
lol

Chomsky: The Soviet Union versus Socialism

youtube.com/watch?v=06-XcAiswY4

>thinking "someone from your side looks funny!" is going to hold water when shit like pic realted exists

Strasserist National Socialist represent

Your commie nonsense isn't politically incorrect anymore. Try a PC website such as reddit.

I took the true red-pill on communism when I started actually reading classical liberal works, which gave way to reading early anarchist works (Proudhon) and inevitably led to communist works.

I was amazed to find that Adam Smith (father of free market capitalism) shared more in common with Marx than I had been taught. Marx cited classical liberals like Smith, and it makes sense when you read classical liberal notions of "property rights" and wage labor.

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Look whos talking.

LOL the obese diaper police are coming to impose hyper vigilantism on me for my politics.

>oh nooooo

psyops

nice try cuck

NECK ALL COMMIES

you should turn your proxy back to leaf

If a natural disaster knocks out the power of an area, and destroys the local food stores, how will people react to the little food that is left?

Will they starve together or will the instinct to survive kick in? Who will stop the crimes if there is no state? Are people expected to just let deaths pile up without a fight?

At what point do we stop being human?

Why can't communists just accept that hillary lost?

Yup. The classical liberals were pretty based.

"my side" lel. first, i'm not a nazi, and second those dudes look perfectly normal.

How about just being a normal Democrat and Liberal instead of an edgy teen

Kill yourself leaf

Capitalism immediately yielded results, making Europe break the Malthusian cycle and go on to dominate the world.

Kill yourself commienigger.

>communists
>wanting a capitalist elite to win

pick one you clueless retard

>Literally believing something that doesn't work and never worked.
>inb4 not true gommunism.

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THE TRUTH SHALL NOT SLIDE

YOU WILL NEVER OUT ARGUE THE OPPOSITION

YOU ARE TO FUCKING STUPID

YOU WILL NEVER DRIVE US FROM THE SITE

WE ARE THE INTERNET

DEATH TO ALL LEFTIST C U C K S

KILL ALL COMMIES

A lot of effort for a redditor

They'd probably work together to get more food, like we always have

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Being against a political system that doesn't make any sense does mean you're a stormfag it just means you have a brain.

Tell me cucklord, what does communism look like in practice? How do I order steel from China if we live in a stateless and cashless society?

Over 16.5 million? Where did this number come from?

>find work that IS a hobby
>find
You are supposed to work where you are needed. It is ideal, but not realistic.

Hahahahahahahahahaahahahahhahahahahahahhahahhahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaahahhahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaahhahahahahahahahahhaha is that from their chat? These are the people making these?

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in what fucking world do communists support Hillary?

Why are you CTR shills denying shilling for hilldawg?

What happens when no one wants to be a coal miner or a janitor?

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>I have never read anything by Marx except the manifesto.
Literally dozens of books explaining exactly how capitalism is wrong written by Marx. Hundreds if you include other leftist writers.

I just went over this with you. It takes a special type of autistic mental gymnastics to believe any neonazi alive today would be not be executed for being genetically inferior in Hitler's Germany.

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You denying the holocaust? Dont forget the 6 billion!

>Capitalism immediately yielded results
Burgers are off on history as usual. Remember the 1848 failed capitalist revolutions against feudalism, for instance?

they love the taste of her old cunt flaps

gee the same thread for the 100th time I am certainly convince now

FUCK OFF FAGGOT

Capitalist propaganda!

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Hillary lost cucks!
Get over it!

How many millions more are going to have to die for it to work?

Those had nothing to do with capitalism as an economic system, it had to do with the liberal ideals of parliamentary democracy.

As soon as capitalism started in the Italian city states, then spread to the netherlands, then to England, it made all these regions very rich, and when industrialism kicked off in England it turned western europe into a super power.

Get fucked hillshills!

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You do understand Hitler himself had his own neo-nazis???
They were called SA and after Hitler got elected he replaced them with SS and send them to wehrmacht.
They were tools which were very much useful.
Breddy good in my opinion

Pure cringe. Those beta male faggots are trying to recruit all 10 autists that are regulars in their commie neckbeard group to spam Sup Forums with their autism.

What a bunch of pathetic sperg sad!!!

Reminder that Reddit communists are raiding Sup Forums because they have shit-tier recognition with normies, and are jelly of Sup Forums's political influence.

They steal our memes and make lazy edits of them, because communism sucks at innovation; and is an ideology for 3rd-world niggers.

Sage and hide all commie threads. If you feel like it, troll and spam their threads with shitposts and counter-arguments; but don't forget to sage. Don't let them get a foothold on Sup Forums.

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SPURDO THREAD :---ddDd

holy shit! people actually, unironically try to post "leftist commie memes" on the internet?

wow this is the cringiest shit i've ever seen in my life. OP needs to go back to facebook or plebbit

sage these spam threads

>1848 was because of capitalism
Te figyeltél általánosban?

you have to go back to cripple chan

It's how I became redpilled on communism. I think there needs to be more of an effort to show the connection between classical liberal thinkers and communist thinkers. Right-wing intellectuals made a strong effort in the 60s, 70s, 80s to subvert classical liberalism through historical revisionism, not coincidentally during the Cold War. One only needs to read the original works to realize that communism was an inevitable successor to classical liberalism, especially after the industrial revolution.

IT WAS NOT REAL GOMMUNISBM XDDDD

In a federalized society, there would be some form of cooperation between the syndicates in a legal structure (like a disaster relief fund). There would be similarities to how state governments in the US coordinate their efforts.

Whether there would be some larger agency is up to debate. LibSocs are generally skeptical of centralized institutions that diminish individual authority, though. If a central authority was necessary for disaster relief, its members would be directly elected.

It's over hillcucks!

Remember kids, leftists are not ugly, low self-esteem, low testosterone loser cucks because they're leftists, they're leftists because they're ugly, low self-esteem, low testosterone loser cucks. Big difference.

And then form a government to provide stability.

>le North Korea's ebil dictatorial regime meme XD
Read more.

>Cuba stuck in the 50s
Why is this so horrible again? Old cars and good music trigger you that badly?

>When you are literally Blitzkrieging gommunists with your Sup Forums kameraden.
Feels good man.

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>communism was an inevitable successor to classical liberalism
Any day now!