Trump is saving jobs

>Trump is saving jobs

(((Krugman)))

>saving jobs without spending money

Why are liberals mad about this?

> "Why would you need a seatbelt when you have an airbag lol?"

this. Literally dropped economics this semester after I found out he wrote the textbook for the class.

>deal
>bailout
guess which is better

>Trump has been the president 0 days, and saved 1000 jobs.
>Obama has been the president for 8 years, and saved X jobs.
During their presidencies, Trump has saved infinitely more jobs than Obama.

My argument is about just as viable as his.

>without spending money
>Except for Tax Breaks
>Except for Government Contracts to UTC

Those Government Contracts paid for by the Taxpayer btw. Take Trumps dick out of your mouth for a second and see what's really going on.

>caring what that Jew thinks

now post the metric "cost per job saved"

presumably because government offices need A/C

>tax breaks
>spending
Get off Sup Forums, paul

>bailout
>I literally pulled $1 trillion out of thin air that America didn't have to subsidize the entire existence of major companies

well done

>liberals think just throwing piles of money at a business is the best economic solution instead of easing their tax burdens

God why are they so stupid

Nice how you ignore the Government Contracts.

Except the auto bailout was bad because it rewarded an noncompetitive industry. American auto companies were well-known to be dogshit and they required a bail out due to their pathetic businesses. They were simply putting out shitty products that weren't selling.

They didn't deserve the bailout. It was nothing but a free handout.

Those contracts already exist. We have no way of knowing if they will change or not in the future. The state of Indiana gave out tax breaks for them to stay. A very common practice around the country.

>$700 dollars a year
>3/4 of the jobs earn 70k a year and pay far more than $700 dollars a year in taxes
>1000 jobs stay in the local economy
>no need to give the 1000 people or their families welfare
ect ect

take your dick out of your mouth

Kekman's butthurt on the NYT has been glorious.

The only jobs Obama created were low-wage jobs. People and their construed/cherry-picked statistics.

the tax money comes from the company, it's simply not paying it's not getting paid by anyone
the company is spending 16M on the plant so they're spending money really
UTC already has government contracts, they did not gain any from this deal Trump just threatened to cancel their existing ones

you mean the things they already had?
k

Another metric:
(((Krugman)) would need
a fucking time machine to go back and become relevant outside the CNN echo chamber.
Total loser.

why is he even a thing

everything he does fails he isnt even good at what he does

Didn't he added a trillion to the debt just for doing that? Just for low wage jobs that will be replaced by machines?

>Trump has saved 1000 jobs while not even in office
>But Obama is a better president because he bailed out a failing industry instead of creating a better environment for them to work in.

that a president-elect is willing to threaten to cancel a company's government contracts if one of their related entities move its manufacturing overseas should be news in itself

he has a Noble Prize in Economics retard.

>trump is not even president yet
>people are already attacking him for saving jobs

How many layers of chess are we on?

The man isn't even president yet you cucks.

(((Noble prize)))

Just jews giving jews prizes for advancing jewery. Noble prize means shit

>President-elect Trump saved some jobs? haha retard president obama saved more jobs in his 8 year run

laffin'

also i love the new liberal line

>US manufacturing jobs are going away so this Trump "bailout" was stupid
>btw the much worse per job Obama auto bailout was fine

>Noble
American education everybody.

Obama has a Nobel Prize in Peace.

>Bailing out the same company that is now moving to Mexico
Should have had a stay in America clause in there, Terrible deals

(((auto bailout)))
Implying there would have been one without the
(((bank bailout)))

It is not, nor ever has been, the role of government to prop up private institutions. This is the economical definition of National Socialism. Ya know, what Hitler did?

>tax breaks
>spending money

Those are two entirely different things. Why don't you take the statist dick out of YOUR mouth?

Wasnt the bailout thing started by W?

and Obama the Great has a Nobel Peace Price

2009 i believe

Yup. He said "we need to abandon free market principles in order to save the free market" or some other inane shit..

>implying it's a proper Nobel prize

Bet u think Economics is a science too

>he has a Noble Prize in Economics retard
Shut the fuck up you fucking faggot. Noble prizes are shit. Proof: Obama has one for peace. KYS

But how then they would be able to cut themselves a slice of that sweet tax money?

They are not stupid. Just evil.

Obama has a nobel prize for peace. He uses robots to kill american citizens, and bomb brown people.

Nobel prizes are worthless.

He was referring to Krugman.

Ugh ignorant!

Paul "the internet is a temporary fad" Krugman

And he's referring to Obama to show how Nobel prizes don't mean anything.

ie. Got a nobel peace prize then spends half his presidency droning civilians.

I think user was saying that Nobel prizes don't mean much when someone who was willing to kill as many people as Obama and get involved in Lybia, Syria, Fast and Furious etc. gets an award for Peace.

Krugman's job is redundant. Parjeet could it for waaaay cheaper

>raaaaaaaargh Trump is using taxpayer money to save jobs, outrageous!!
>raaaaaaaargh Trump is not spending enough taxpayer money to save jobs, outrageous!!!!!
they can't even got a full day without being retarded

Thank-you for Correcting Trumps Record.

>make incorrect argument
>act smug
>reference dicks

It's a lefty alright

>stealing less of my money
>spending

>omg trump is such a tyrant he can't just make carrier stay in the us
>wow what a liar he gave a tax break? Why not just tyrannically end their Utc contracts to spite them

This is why the left is collapsing, you guys aren't a party on a mission you are just a mob trying to show who will provide the greatest sacrifice to the god of progress

>muh auto industry bailout

you mean those auto industries that are leaving the country (((krugman)))?

Your right. President's are afraid of letting the economy be temporarily crippled for the betterment in the long run. It's all short term/shortsightedness because they want a legacy/re-election or whatever.

>not even president yet
your argument is invalid, faggot

BAILOUT

a fucking BAILOUT.

Hello!!?!

Carrier was not
A. Going bankrupt
B was not given a BAILOUT

Fuck you Krugman!!!!

Sad but true. Most of our politicians are only making decisions based on what'll happen in the short term, 2-6 years out. Very few politicians even plan so far as 10 years out, much less 20-30 years down the road which is what a country really needs.

it sounds like a bad comparison. but, less evaluate that math.

>once a week for thirty years
>52 * 30 = 1560
>Carrier deal cost 7 million
>7 million * 1560 deals = 11 billion dollars total cost

>auto bailout cost: 80 billion dollars

your face when ((Paul Krugman)) math proves that Trump's deal-making prowess is 8 times as efficient at saving jobs as Obama's

milton friedmann is raging in his grave

I believe this is cross temporal 826D backgammon whilst riding on the back of a chimera

You mean in being black

Damn you're right

MAKE GREAT DEALS

He's not even fully black, where's my Nobel prize for blackness?

math is both racist and mysoginist, shitlord

check you are privilege

O fug one of the worlds best negotiators negotiated a deal by using leverage

Someone call the papers right now holy shit

too late for me, Sad

I work in Government Contracting.

You have no idea what it looks like, and what sort of hoops you have to jump through, regulations to abide by, and the reaming on pricing you must endure.

When you write up and get the following contracts approved, please feel free to open your mouth.

>ecat
>gsa
>mmeso
>dapa

You don't even know what these are.

DELETE THIS RIGHT NOW

>Trump has an Ellis Island award

I guess you will defend any attacks flung at him regarding race now?

>$7m/decade in tax cuts
>$16m/decade in investments by Carrier
>$700k tax cuts/year
>$700 tax burden/worker/year
>Each factory worker has on average 6 support jobs behind it in the community
>Median tax responsibility per worker is >$16k/year
>($16k)(7000)=$112million/year tax revenues
>$1.28billion return on $7million investment

Trump is not even president yet.

Obama had eight years.

hey

pst

Trump won

You know someone has to build the roads, right?

...

part time as well, people working 20hours a week were still considered employed to inflate the numbers, and the numbers were still bad.

Many high quality tollway roads are owned and maintained by private organizations

reeee

>30 years of trump
Fuck yes!!

One of three things happens when tax breaks are handed out:
1) Something else in the budget gets cut to compensate
2) Taxes go up to compensate
3) Deficit
Now, given that Indiana is already running on a deficit I'm pretty sure I know which of the three will happen, so your right, no money will be taken out of your pocket, at least in the short term. The same could be said about funding a social program to train workers to do modern jobs. If you're cool with deficits, you never need to raise taxes.
And if coal is your example of an industry worth saving, then your opinion on finance and economics is literally worth nothing to me. Natural gas is significantly cheaper and cleaner and easier to get, there's literally no economically sane reason to use coal. It's simply not profitable anymore, and nothing Trump does will change that

>the taxpayers will be paying for tax break
what the fuck?

How many companies went overseas thanks to Obama?

I'll take 30 years of Trump.

>Obama saved the auto industry!
>Just ignore Detroit is still a shithole

I can't fucking believe how retarded and ignorant these people are.
Trump proved, just like he did with Ford. That it's easy to get companies to stay in order to save jobs for america.

The jobs that has left america under Obama has been good and well paying jobs, while Obama with the democrats creates part time jobs that barely supports one person. But that doesn't matter because it's still a job in the annual reports about job growth.
Why the fuck does people like ""Krugman"" think Trump won in the first place? People are pissed off because they are losing jobs left and right and the only alternative is working at Mcdonals for 12 hours a week.

You can work out deals with companies to save a few thousand good jobs WHILE signing and passing laws that will save million of good jobs. Trump proved that and now the liberals are trying to paint this whole thing in a bad setting, so fucking sad.

>Natural gas is significantly cheaper and cleaner and easier to get, there's literally no economically sane reason to use coal.
I am uncertain on the issue, but I tend to lean towards Thorium in the long run.

However, is different infrastructure required to get natural gas over coal?

Also, natural gas would probably be better saved as a fuel for cars rather than using it for electric. At least at a glance.

>1) Something else in the budget gets cut to compensate

Please be this one

>there's literally no economically sane reason to use coal. It's simply not profitable anymore

What props up coal?

Just reduce entitlements. Big deal.

The 'Auto Bailout' gave tax payer currency (Acquired through taxation, which is theft/extortion) to companies that tax payers did not want to buy cars from, so that those companies could continue building cars that tax payers do not want to buy.

A lower tax would have meant shit.
How do you tax something when they are losing so much as it is?

It would only break them even at best; they needed a full restart.

> pol is not one person
>but liberals are