Leftist General - The Soviet People Voted For The Preservation Of The Soviet Union Edition

This thread is for the discussion of any and all left-wing political ideology, including, but not limited to, Marxism/Socialism/Communism/Anarchism/Syndicalism/etc.

>Socialism is an economic and social system defined by social ownership of the means of production. (Workers democratically own and operate the places in which they work, as opposed to private power aka capitalism)

>The means of production are non-human inputs the create economic value, such as factories, workplaces, industrial machinery, etc. Socialists refer to the means of production as capital, or private property. Private property in the socialist context shouldn't be confused with personal property, such as your home, car, computer, and other possessions.

>In a capitalist society the means of production are owned and controlled privately, by those that can afford them (the capitalist aka those with capital). Production is carried out to benefit the capitalist (production for profit). Workers are paid a wage, and receive that amount regardless of how much value they produce.

>Communism is the highest developed stage of socialism wherein there is no state, no money, no class system. The means of production are owned by all and provide for everyone's needs.

Resources:

ABC's of Socialism: s3.jacobinmag.com/issues/jacobin-abcs.pdf

Introduction to Marxism by Professor Richard D. Wolff: youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

Selections of Left-wing Literature:

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/

marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/decades-index.htm

marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/

marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/

marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Let's try and have an actual discussion relating to theory rather than falseflagging and trying to get dissent banned this time, yes?

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twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

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>Let's try and have an actual discussion relating to theory rather than falseflagging and trying to get dissent banned this time, yes?
KEK

i love how absolutely incensed Sup Forums are that we're just... here. existing.

they truly are the SJWs of the right, throwing a screaming tantrum when someone prods their safe space.

ignore this faggot comrades

the thread is fake, as you can tell by reading the OP

This is a duplicate thread main thread is here. OP just can't handle different opinions.

Reporting in comrades

>This thread is for the discussion of any and all left-wing political ideology, including, but not limited to, Autism/Laziness/GibsMeDat/PoliticsofEnvy/National Socialism/

false thread there

At least the shitposting has mostly stopped, even some anons came in asking for more reading materials

Fuck you and your split threads kiwi

>m-muh safe space

It's an obvious trollpost

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you're the one trying to preserve your safespace by splitting threads

it's pretty obvious where all you anti-commie posters came from, since the rest of Sup Forums doesn't seem to care, and supports our free speech.

So, in the words of the POTUS, you need to go back

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>a bloo bloo bloo i can't handle different opinions so i am going to make a duplicate thread
mods willing this will be purged.

Reminder

Stop thread splitting.

Neck yourself faggot. Communists deserve to ridiculed at every opportunity. Your economic system has failed countless times and has alomst always resulted in the deaths of millions through either starvation or mass killings. Fuck off and get out of my country Toronto fag.

Fuck Communism

neck yourselves

Not an argument

>board that preserves safe space/echochamber by modding alternative opinions accuses board with very minimal modding of being safe space/echochamber
What did they mean by this?

stop thread splitting, real thread here:
SAGE

Humans are all different

Every human can shovel shit

Who do you make shovel shit?

FPBP

REAL THREAD

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Wanker cunt, please KYs. Sage

Give me a video like this and I'll covert:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=oVIbuIGAu38

Or do you literally have 0 speeches and 0 propaganda videos that can inspire the soul?

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Fake source nice try

And North Koreans cry hysterically for their leader. Doesn't mean they want it.

SAGE

NO ANSWERS

IM FUCKING WAITING YOU COMMUNIST RETARDS

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youtube.com/watch?v=K9CbgexJLK8

qts for sozialismus und mobilmachung.

They are all sulking in this thread like scared rats. Mods should delete this duplicate thread.

post leftist here. who else /stirner/? I also adore ravachol and the writings of jean Genet. anyone else get into Deleuze/Guattari et al?

What's your opinion of council communism?

machines you nitwit. or actually all labor will be a rotating obligation e.g. citizenship requires sacrifice.

I got you senpai

Who do you make shovel shit?
What kind of shit? Like on a farm? I'm assuming that's only one of many tasks that the farmer does. No job is a cake walk 100% of the time.

>do you literally have 0 speeches and 0 propaganda videos that can inspire the soul?
youtube.com/watch?v=wAVvIQ9a4xk

Nah, people wanted USSR to remain, but also reforms.
People are easily brainwashed m8. You'd be surprised at how many Norks love their regime.

kys fckn commie scum

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Sage

>much helicopter
to the gulag with you bitch

Seems like how you transition from state capitalism/socialism to a less state heavy variety.

why not post cotemporary science ? why cherry pick from archaic sources?

fpbp

Ugly, dumb infinityscum

you meme loving faggot keep licking (((capitalist))) boots

GO TO HELL COMMIES!!!!!

Its nice to have a decent commie thread. We need go kill atleast 100 million more americans and porkies.

youtube.com/watch?v=po1VppdJrYc

friend, you and I are already living in a capitalist hell of capitalist alienation, isolation and exploitation. Why are you not the hero of your own dreams? Wouldn't you rather be the hammer and not the nail? We have nothing to lose but our chains comrade.

>the anarcho-syndicalist mod is still a virgin
HHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

That video was mildly funny but My dick is still soft and my spirit is still asleep though. 1/10 for the chuckle

That sounds retardedly inefficient and requires a forceful ruling class. You're turning me away from communism...

Im still waiting guys. This is why your shit never gets traction here. Your idealogy fucking sucks and free speech exposes this

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What kind of economic system is it if I don't want communism, but I also want heavy restrictions on corporations and income inequality with very strong worker's rights?

> sasuage stick

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Socialism, communism would be generations after socialism has become the norm

>the troll thread got nuked
we did it /left/

why would rotating obligation to work be less efficient than the shitty capitalist welfare state which essentially enslaves the middle class to care for criminals and layabouts? How would it not be preferable to share the burden of labor equally so that all would spend less time being burdened? Why live in a society which sustains a trashy underclass bringing all intellects down to the lowest common denominator? A society of equals is a vibrant fruitful society comrade.

but I don't want communism at all. I don't have a problem with private ownership as long as the corporations are leashed properly.

Okay - lets settle this once and for all: How do you seize and share the means of (re)production?
Do the workers take turns or is it a gangbang? Isn't that too capitalist thogh, because the sperm have to compete agianst each other? Or do they just try until everyone gets their offspring from the woman.

Then you want a strong wellfare state.

sounds like run of the mill european left to me
particularly the scandinavian variant

Your socialist ideology will lead all of the empires built by powerful men to the dark ages, dooming all of mankind's legacy in the process.

This is how red turns brown.

All empires will eventually turn to the dark ages, even utopia. Such is the nature of history, of entropy.

But I'd rather lead civilization to the dark ages in socialism than in capitalism.

quads confirm. Leftards btfo

If Marx was correct, then none of us would even live to see communism.
It took a thousand years for feudalism to become capitalism, i would expect that kind of timescale. I think he was wrong about the revolution, and underestimated the ability of capitalist to control politics and keep the masses complacent.

Social Democracy is what you are talking about, and is much more likely to actually happen.

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>mfw (Deleted)
based mods

Capitalism is a dark age; the hollow pursuit of consumer comforts. Capitalism makes all men small and equal since all men are nothing more than exploitable commodities. Communism recognizes the great man in all men and calls for us to crush the parasites beneath our boots.

They voted for the preservation of the Union, but not for continued Socialism.

Furthermore most Republics seceded after holding later referendums.

I don't think so. I didn't mention anything about welfare.
These sound right.

MODS == GODS

>Capitalism
>Imperial Japan
>Fascist Italy, Spain
>Potato Famine
>Slave trade
>Feather Nigger Deaths
>Iran Iraq War
>Death of Yugo

Do you blame your dog's death on capitalism as well?

explain how its an accusation when its literally the truth

good fucking riddance

Quads. Why does Sup Forums forget that Stalin killed more Jews than Hitler by millions? Not for being Jewish but because they were parasitical scum.

In many threads, it was explained that communism would only ever work without the state, how do you get rid of the state?

Daily reminder that some sad, bitter people actually pay money for loveless losers to spam Sup Forums with /left/ after /CTR/ bombed hard.

Don't fall for their (((tricks))) free men of Sup Forums.

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But it will lead us to a permanent dark age; back to the stone age where anarchists reign supreme!

Socialism lead to Anarchy, Anarchy brings chaos. We must opposed chaos, at all cost!

they do it for free

>permanent dark age
>stone age
We got out of the stone age once, why not twice?

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He was right about the revolution at first and initially believed as you do; but he got caught up in the festivities of opposition and wrote the Manifesto..Revolution is life affirming even if it is futile :)

And we do it better.

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Because commies and natsocs believe essentially the same, they just argue semantics really. Jew and burgeois is interchangeable really, collective and nation as well.

Wew commies still continue raiding after get Pinochet'd
At least you are fighting with determination

Member storm troopers?

Why

>Jew and burgeois is interchangeable really
LMAO
lrn 2 historical materialism fag
natsoc is literally right wing SJWs

>Sup Forumstards calling anyone loveless losers

Engage in a same sex relationship.