Please explain to me Sup Forums how global warming isn't real

Please explain to me Sup Forums how global warming isn't real.

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>(((global))) warming
>implying the earth is a globe

Shiggydiggy

Please explain to me how plane earth warming isn't real

Man made global warming isn't real.

Two schools of thought. One is outright denial of climate change. This is supported by the average world temperature remaining constant even through the industrial revolution. The second school of thought is that climate change exists but is natural, not human caused, and I'm not too educated on that stance.

It's not that it's not real, it's that it's happened before and we came out the other side pretty fucking okay. We also havent been monitoring the data for long enough to confirm that it's humanity this time around.

To think that humanity is able of permanently fucking the earth in 100 short years is the height of hubris.

think of it in the same terms as the "war on terrorism"
terrorism exists but people in power exploit it and blow it completely out of proportion

It's not ''not real'' it's simply out of human control. Earth's climate isn't static, it works in seasons, just like seasons of the year and we are in the warming up season. It will happen no matter what, and human do speed it up but only very slightly that the difference doesn't matter at all. There was a ''global warming'' after the ice age and I really doubt humans had anything to do with it.

Isn't the burden on those making the claim?

>t. I get my news from briebart milo and the drugereport

It's amazing how so many of you consider yourself conservatives yet the only thing you want to conserve is your money. Fuck the environment am I right or am I right. Da oil companies told me to fuck leftist XD

post one academic paper that conclusively proves man made global warming

I'll wait

Provide empirical evidence man-made climate change is real.

Remember the eternal roonigger, releasing more CO2 per capita than China, USA and even Saudi Arabia

I've watched like only a few vids of milo talking to a black lady that was chimping out at him.
I think hes hilariously flaming but I've never heard his comments on global warming.

I don't know about the other guy either.

I mostly got my global warming statement from the multitude of scientists that disproved many of the claims about it.

Global warming is real, nobody's never denied that. It just isn't caused by humans

Because socialists and jews are the ones pushing it kek

Its cold as shit outside.

>Cold? manmade climate change
>Hot? manmade climate change
>Hurricanes? manmade climate change
>Drought? manmade climate change
>Icecaps melting? manmade climate change
>Icecaps gaining mass? manmade climate change
>sunspots? manmade climate change
>rising sea level? manmade climate change
>receding sea level? manmade climate change

This.

Oblate spheroidal warming is a much better name.

I think the biggest problem about global warming is the mislabelling.

Like it's like the alt right issue.
Everyone on the right is alt right.
there are racists within the alt right.
So it's impossible to say that the alt right isn't racist.
just like it's impossible to say that global warming isn't real.

Well shit, smart guy. Why dont you link us to some peer reviewed articles on the subject?

Oh, take your word on it? Sure, user. Sure.

>implying Sup Forumsacks, and even faggots from r/the_donald still give two shits about (((Milo Yiannopolous)))

shiggy diggy doo

The world has warmed since the little ice age.

FACT

Have humans contributed to this warming?

YES

How much influence have Humans had on the warming?

No one knows.

Is it bad and catastrophic?

Probably not. Hurricanes, tornadoes, droughts, floods etc. show no upward trend. All the while food production is at all time highs.

Should OP kill himself?

YES

Temperatures have been static for the last 20 years.

No warming means no warming.

Isn't that just because the oil industry itself emits a lot of CO2?

We haven't had snow in 5 years, used to snow every year. That's about all the evidence I have ever seen.

>explain to me Sup Forums how global warming isn't real
but.... it is real.

I haven't seen snow in 19 years, ever since I moved here to Florida from NYC. That's all the proof I needed to know that climate change deniers are fucking faggots

>britain isn't covered in white for the past 5 years

It is real you fucking idiot. It's just not caused by humans. How often do I have to post this article until every of you idiots finally got it?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles

Conservatives still care about the environment. Its just that the green weenies have overtaken the movement and have turned it into a huge cash grab for their pet project.

According to those cycles earth should be cooling now.

Pretty much this.

Its accelerated by humans.

If you want a knowledgeable discussion on climate change, go to /sci/. You won't find one here. It's been done time and time again, the people here refuse to acknowledge or accept any evidence that doesn't fit into their pre-conceived notions. Everything is a conspiracy on Sup Forums, you cannot argue with completely irrational people.

i dont spend my time explaining why invisible purple elephants aren't orbiting the earth, so im not gonna spend my time explaining why anthropogenic CO2 emissions and runaway albedo feedbacks will not kill us all.

post one peer reviewed academic paper that proves human induced climate change

Simple, Global Warming is real.

But Authoritarianism and Capitalism have nothing to do with it. Both of these provide order in both social and economic systems throughout the history of the human empire. To even state that coal and oil are the cause of the latest phenomenon is to invoke chaos throughout the planet. That's why our fossil fuel crusaders are working hard with politicians around the world to prevent the ultimate goal of Anarcho-Primivists; to bring humanity back to the stone age.

Our goal is to use the resources on this planet to spread our influence beyond the solar system, to create a galactic federation in which humanity is recognize as the most powerful force in existence. Those hippies scums will never understand our dream of greatness!

> According to those cycles earth should be cooling now.

The validity of your statement depends on your definition of "should be cooling now".

It's currently near a peak and normally after a peak it goes down (otherwise it would not be a peak) but as you can see the axis is like thousands of years and it's probably still going up in the next 100 years. There's also nothing we can do about it (other than developing an Artic strategy like the Russians already do)

All I know is that the climate is fucked enough that a few days ago news said the Arctic had over 0 temperatures which is completely unnatural.
How do you explain this?

>It's just not caused by humans
lets see. 97% of all scientists agree it is caused by humans, and the basic science behind it (greenhouse effect) is incredibly simple.

only a certified retard (or oil-company shill) would deny that co2 emissions cause the earth to heat up

>it's probably still going up in the next 100 years.

Not by more than a fraction of a degree C.

>proves
thats not how science works, dickwad. you cant even prove that anything exists at all.

what you can do is gather evidence and make predictive falsifiable models and test these against more data.
This is called science.

The people who do this "science" are called "scientists", and there is a lot of them, and they all agree that your an retard that needs to be fucked back and aborted

That's because when looking at the Milankovic Cycles (not influenced by humans) we are talking about changes of like 6 degrees Celsius, while scientists still debate if the human influence on the earth's climate are bigger than 0.2 degrees celsius.

El Nino.

also thanks to the El Nino, since its been a warm fall, Greenland has gained a record amount of Ice

over 50 billion tons more ice than average

>what you can do is gather evidence and make predictive falsifiable models and test these against more data.
Too bad the anthropogenic global climate change issue doesn't deal in that. It's not falsifiable, since whatever happens proves the climate is changing, even things that directly contradict each other.

Enough to open up a passage north of Canada for some months in the summer that can be used by ships and has a giant influence on world geopolitics.

noone really is talking about whether or not global warming is real

what people are talking about are the consequences. climate doomsayers are hypocritical fucktards

...

why isnt new york under water yet?

I thought the sub 80 IQ climate doomsayers said that the polar caps should have melted by now with a sea level rise of 10 meters

Scientists are whores. They simply found a way to make money.

>that not how science works
I guess biologists can't prove evolution then. It's just a hypothesis.

more people are dying during lower temperatures

hmmmm really maeks me thingk

You can't prove it is real or unreal. It is bacically not science.

all the models are proven wrong

hmmmmmmmmmm do climate doomsayers also still believe in flat earth and creationism?

Stages of climate change denial

stage 1: Earth isn't warming
stage 2: Earth is warming, but it's not caused by humans
stage 3: Earth is warming, it's caused by humans but it's not a problem
stage 4: Huh? I was never a climate skeptic. it's all lies!

not an argument

you are an idiot

He's a dutch. He probably fears some serious flooding in his backyard.

Also, this just in, astronomers have never proved the sun is real.

Thermal expansion has never been proven so engineers are just cheeky guessers.

Ice has never been proven to have lower density than water.

Earth has never been proven to be an oblate spheroid.

Gravity has never been proven.

Aerodynamics has never been proven so planes don't fly.

It has never been proven that salt is sodium chloride.

>why isnt new york under water yet?

You would think an actual scientist would be more careful about his insane claims. But nope. In the realm of climate "science" the more insane the prediction the more coverage/funding you get.

the global temperatures are currently slowly rising. that is a fact.
what people are trying to extrapolate from this is
#1 it's caused mostly by industrial activity (it's not)
#2 people need to get taxed out the ass until it crashes everyone's economy except for china, because china doesn't give a fuck.

Everyone in this thread should read through this.

climatesciencewatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/The-Real-Truth-About-Greenhouse-Gases-and-Climate-Change.pdf


I know you won't though.

every time a leftie runs out of arguments you will get told that you "listen to the wrong media" or "read the wrong newspapers".

Why would I use arguments against uneducated retards like you?

Just explaining that the whole debate is pointless becasue the

Stages of denial of the existing of Allah
stage 1: There is no God
stage 2: There may be a god, maybe not, I am not sure
stage 3: There is a god but I it is not certain whether it is Allah or not, and if it is Allah we can't know if he interferes in our lives
stage 4: Huh? I was never an atheist, Allahu akbar, kill the infidels!

Reminder that all those threads are started by shills paid for by the Tom Steyer Super Pac NextGen Climate. This jew has spent hundreds of millions of people to push the "climate change" hoax

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Steyer#Founding_of_NextGen_Climate_.282013.29


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the warmer the climate the higher the biodiversity

hmmmmmmmmmmmm

yeah its a wall of text

I gave it a glance and its a boring read because of the large amount of unsubstantial and very small amount of relevant text, should have a summary

how much money do you have? idiot

>everyone in this thread should read this 40 page pdf

lel are you fucking kidding me?

>the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere was 270.5 ppm. At the present time, the concentration is about 390 ppm, 0.039 percent of all atmospheric molecules and less than 1 percent of that in our breath. About fifty million years ago, a brief moment in the long history of life on earth, geological evidence indicates, CO2 levels were several thousand ppm, much higher than now.
CO2 isn't a good green house gas not to mention it barely rose to levels of concern.

>how much money do you have? idiot

Kinda hard to say because I have my own company.

It's real

>and there is fuck all you or I can do about it

The world population is set to double in the next hundred years. No liberal shit about cutting greenhouse gas is going to have any impact

97% of papers we ran through a program mention keywords we asked for. We do not know the actual context of use so we will make up a lie that 97% of scientist agree so stupid Kraut faggots can shitpost

>Reminder that all those threads are started by shills paid for by the Tom Steyer Super Pac NextGen Climate. This jew has spent hundreds of millions of people to push the "climate change" hoax
this is what really gets me. literally ALL global warming denial is directly sponsored by the oil/gas/coal industries, and then those brainwashed little minions come and call everybody else shills (even though they are the ones doing the actual shilling)

here are a few facts that Sup Forums loves to deny but are hard science:
1) global warming is real, human caused and will be a complete catastrophe
2) the holocaust happened (6million jews killed by germans)
3) pizzagate is a dumb conspiracy and youre dumb if you honestly think it's real
4) "the jews" dont control the world
5) hitler was a retard who didnt understand genetics and racemixing is actually healthier than trying to go for "pure" bloodlines
6) islam is not the problem, american interventionism in the middle east is

inb4 Sup Forums has an aneurysm

>the warmer the climate the higher the biodiversity


Modern environmentalists hate this. There is a reason more animals/plants thrive in the tropics than in the poles.

They also hate nuclear energy so you know they are just talking out of their ass

No, I am not, and no one should be proud of being ignorant. It's probably more than an uneducated Sup Forumstard reads in an entire year however, so I can see how it could be an inconvenience.

Just goes to show you how denialists refuse to read into anything that goes against their pre-conceived notions of climate change, their parroted pseudo-scientific """facts.""" non-scientists.

You all just ramble and parrot off whatever some moron like Molyneux tells you to believe, without questioning it.

It's honestly really ironic, because denialists consider themselves skeptics, but as skeptics themselves they refuse to question or seek out information that is contrarian to their "beliefs." Any true skeptic would examine the scientific basis of anthropogenic climate change to understand why it is so widely accepted.

Also, climate scientists routinely inspect claims of skeptics to debunk them, see for example:
skepticalscience.com/

Also, I encourage people to watch potholer54's videos on Youtube where he dissects and debunks skeptics claims:
youtube.com/user/potholer54/videos

Here is one such example of him BTFO Crowder.
youtube.com/watch?v=qEylCS6-hBE

that 97% thing is the biggest piece of shit science I've ever seen. I don't know how anyone that actually looks into that study can take anything from the global warming side seriously after that.

You're a dumb faggot who ignores a post because you get BTFO

I hope your sister get buttfucked by a Muslim

>you get BTFO
yeah you totally btfo me. you caught me evolution is actually a jewish conspiracy, global warming a chinese hoax and Im a ctr shill

>science doesn't prove anything! Can't even prove anything exists
Do you even realize how fucking dumb that is? If you can't even prove earth exists, how can global warming be real?

It's a self-defeating statement you stupid fucking asshole.

nobody is stupid enough to believe the climate doesn't change. There is just no evidence to support that there is man-made climate change.

>Any true skeptic would examine the scientific basis of anthropogenic climate change

This is the only statement you made that was worth a damn. The people pushing the global warming thing don't give a shit about the scientific method.

>Merkleposting, the hot new meme

>If you can't even prove earth exists, how can global warming be real?
the problem is with the word "prove". you dont "prove" anything in science.

you can prove things in math. like: the sum of the first n numbers 1, 2, ..., n is n(n+1)/2
you can write down a proof of this and we know for certain we will never ever for a number n for which this is not true.

science doesnt work like that because it's based on observation. you gain more and more certainty the more supporting data you find for your theory and also if you absolutely cannot find anything that contradicts (=falsifies) your theory.
but at no point have you proven anything.

it's just a bit of autism considering precise word usage, but if you want, then yes, evolution and man-made global warming have been "proven" by science. (as in they supported by vast amounts of evidence and there is an overwhelming scientific consensus regarding these topics)

>nobody is stupid enough to believe the climate doesn't change
there are people in this very thread who do.

>There is just no evidence to support that there is man-made climate change.
see the point of denying man-made global warming is so that oil companies can continue to make money.
you, and all the other retards ITT, are literally sucking saudi cock, because thats who is making money fucking up our planet

>Let's just move the goalposts so I can be correct

Drumpf, this shithole board so-called ""god emperor"", literally said that global warming is HOAX created by chinese.

You cant make that shit up

>Globale warming is real
>But it's cold outside

Global warming alarmists irrevocably BTFO!

I havent moved anything. I just spent 10 minutes typing a post explaining to you like I would to my 4 year old niece why science doesnt "prove" anything.

you dont what epistemology is. thats fine, I dont judge you.

>iterally sucking saudi cock
>not implying U.S. Capitalists funding lobbying groups to oppose climate change research.

you dont *know

stages of a climate change fear monger:

Stage 1: global cooling is coming, we're all going to die in an ice age
Stage 2: global warming is coming, we're all going to be underwater in 20 years
Stage 3: it's not global warming, it's climate change.
Stage 4: Stop asking why our predictions never come true, you climate denier.

>science is based off general consensous

It's more than just oil corporations,

Capitalists worried that their means of production is causing climate change.

I'm not reading through all this, but let me preface this by saying I believe in climate change. However, I do not believe we have sufficient evidence to say it's a bad thing. Also, I do think we have the duty to conserve and preserve natural beauty for future generations, but we should not interfere in natural cycle or we will fuck it up.

My biggest argument for switching to green energy is to create new jobs, new technology, and spread some of the oil money around. And this isn't unfeasible. Solar is very cheap. But we have other ways to get their as well.

I think when we use global warming we reduce the argument too much. This allows polices which place taxes and regulations on oil who then uses their money to lobby to reduce these regulations.

I believe we need to understand the full scope of the conversation, and promote innovation not taxation and regulation.

Lastly, anyone who does not believe the climate is changing in some way is massively retarded.

Stage 5: It really was the Jews all along

Global Warming research existed at the same time that a very small minority of researchers were pronouncing global cooling. This was almost 50 years ago. Go ahead and post the same TIME magazine image though as proof that 100% of climatologists 50 years ago were pronouncing a new ice age, not a very small minority of people, just like climate denialists today.

Post of the year.

It is a natural phenomena just like the mini ice age we are about to enter.

technocracy.news/index.php/2016/11/28/barren-surface-sun-explains-rapid-cooling-climate/

i was about to repond seriously but i realized that you would be too stupid to understand what I am saying

bless your heart