/left/ - Lefty General: NEETSocs Please Stop Spamming Edition

Greetings Comrades

This thread is for the discussion of any and all left-wing political ideology, including, but not limited to, Marxism/Socialism/Communism/Anarchism/Syndicalism/etc.

>Socialism is an economic and social system defined by social ownership of the means of production. (Workers democratically own and operate the places in which they work, as opposed to private power aka capitalism)

>The means of production are non-human inputs the create economic value, such as factories, workplaces, industrial machinery, etc. Socialists refer to the means of production as capital, or private property. Private property in the socialist context shouldn't be confused with personal property, such as your home, car, computer, and other possessions.

>In a capitalist society the means of production are owned and controlled privately, by those that can afford them (the capitalist aka those with capital). Production is carried out to benefit the capitalist (production for profit). Workers are paid a wage, and receive that amount regardless of how much value they produce.

>Communism is the highest developed stage of socialism wherein there is no state, no money, no class system. The means of production are owned by all and provide for everyone's needs.

Resources:

ABC's of Socialism: s3.jacobinmag.com/issues/jacobin-abcs.pdf

Introduction to Marxism by Professor Richard D. Wolff: youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

Selections of Left-wing Literature:
Anarchist:
theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread

Libertarian:
Mikhail Bakunin - God and the State (short read)
Thomas Paine - Agrarian Justice
Noam Chomsky - Notes on Anarchism
Anton Pannekoek - Worker's Councils

Marxist-Leninist:
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/sw/
marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/
marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1914/mar/11.htm

Other urls found in this thread:

i.imgur.com/YOzBQ6e.mp4
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Might as well dump some more commie spongebob memes to get the thread going

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I'll help

okay :^)

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Can't handle discourse? You people are cowards you should be ashamed

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hi

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whatever bro

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>Please Stop Spamming
I'll stop spamming when you stop making these pointless threads. Your ideas have been debunked for 140 years now and you faggots still won't let it go.

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I can't believe people still fall for this meme

re-distributing my OC.

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Im amazed that in this generation people still believe communism is a viable system. After how many examples of it ending in failure and mass amounts of death will millennials living comfy in successful capitalist nations finally give it up?

If communism is a stateless society, what happens when a large black man and his armed friends decide to settle in my house and rape my wife? Do I need to go around recruiting people to take back my house, or is there some sort of volunteer police/security force? What happens if two volunteer forces disagree?

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>tfw your shithole of a country finally starts to pick itself up after getting a leftist leader but then the CIA "debunks" you again

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Why do you want communism? Everyone agrees that there are problems, but why follow an ideology that was the leading cause of death of the last century? It's been a spectacular failure in every country it was ever tried in. It won't be different this time, so... Why communism?

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Daily reminder that the "blank slate" is retarded as fuck at it's core.

It's not the money we're after, it's the factories, farms and offices we want

>delusion: the post
It couldn't be that the idea has failed everytime it's been tried could it?
No of course not. It the ebil boogey mans fault.

Very interesting thread user

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Chile isn't socialist

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Mandatory gif for any lefty thread

Recommended reading material for my wife's boyfriend? He's a hardcore capitalist scum but I want to try.

Sup Forums can't handle even one lefty gen! Sad!

There's no socialist "rule" that says society can't have a method of coordinating enforcement of laws.

Most socialists just think there's a better method than having a massive, militarized, "official" gang with a monopoly on violence.

That's exactly where communism fails. Wealth can buy you tons of factories and farms.

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It is socialism.

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What did you mean by this?

I just watch John Oliver with my wife's bf. John is hilarious so it's a good way to get them to see more liberal points of view. My wife's son loves it as well.

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What is the better method?

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>Private ownership of the means of production and commodification of labor are defended with state violence
>not capitalism
Well fuck me

Convince me that supporting communism is in my best interests as a middle-class White American man.

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is it just me or are these hard to read

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I unironically laughed at this retarded meme, what is wrong with me?

i.imgur.com/YOzBQ6e.mp4
(Sup Forums won't take mp4s and too lazy to convert)

continuing from last real thread

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you just have a great sense of humor is all

How should the left react to increased automation? What does Sup Forums think of a universal basic income? Would people become more self-actualized when freed from labor (developing skills and interests just as the non-working bourgeois) or will people just be lazy and purposeless without work?

The failures of socialism are abhorrent though. You try to provide for people and it bites you in the ass. Best let competing charities do it more efficiently. Every time someone gets government money they act like they have a money tree.

I don't know, we never really ever get past the "fuck the police" stage.

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Sup Forums does take mp4

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GOD DAMN IT /left/. THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR BOARD. THESE FUCKS ARE FUCKING WINNING AND I WANNA KILL MYSELF.

Workers councils for one

But user, supporting communism isn't a middle-class white american man, it's an ideology!

i missed you

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Hope you guys like aprons

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can i have the name of the manga?

>Huge drop in jobs that don't usually fulfill people

Great

>Too lazy to convert when there's auromated scripts that do it for you
Communists in a nutshell

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All commies must DIE