What's the deal with protectionism...

What's the deal with protectionism? What's so special about low-skill manufacturing workers in the Midwest that the whole election season has to revolve around them, and the federal government has to protect their jobs at the expense of everyone else?

Because they're the ones who actually bother to vote.

>Democrats build a coalition
>are surprised when a member of the coalition chooses a better option after being neglected for so long

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They make up the bulk of the citizenry of the united states, and they are sick and tired of being sold out for foreigners and mocked by an ever increasingly hostile media and political class on the left.

What about that justifies the federal government protecting their jobs at the expense of everyone else?

At the expense of who? The 3rd world? Or the imported masses of illegals or both? Who do you mean by everyone else?

>Honest answer incoming:

National security. For a nation to be truly secure, it needs to be able to produce all it needs. Food. Manufacturing. Energy.

If we were to go to war with China, for instance (is unlikely to happen but whatever) our manufacturing lines would be severed and we'd be up shit creek with no paddle and would have to attempt to spin up manufacturing overnight with minimal skilled workers. By keeping some manufacturing presence here, we hedge our bets against foreign conflict.

the point is that you need jobs across a whole spectrum of talents.


the united states is extremely top and bottom heavy. we have a lot of extremely high tech jobs that require a certain education, training, aptitude, and personality

and then we have a lot of low paying jobs that require almost no education, training, aptitude, or training. the midsection has been dying.

Literally everyone else, since everyone has to pay higher prices for products. In the case of Trump-like deals, that also includes other American companies who are shut out of fair competition because one company in the industry (Carrier for instance) and they are hurt because of corrupt meddling in the market.

Money aside, you're also restricting economic freedom. I realize Sup Forums doesn't value freedom or the free market that much compared to "True Conservatives", but that's a true point.

I guess I can buy that, I've never heard that argument. But can't we just import from allies? Also, don't we already have a huge military that is already ready to go to war? It's not like we're going to have to ramp up manufacturing and build up a huge military over night.
Also, I don't think the manufacturing sector is during that bad when it comes to high-tech shit like jet engines. We're talking about air conditioning companies. Low skill /education labor.

Why do you need that?
And how can you justify that top-down, meddling approach in the free market?

he meant at expenses of your own people. It is true.
>now /r/pol likes socialism, pathetic


however , since the usa already has the means of production for intern compsuption maybe the cost will not be significant

anyway i hope the cost get gradually applied to the us citizens, otherwise the very same people that he is trying to help will paradoxically become affected.

Yes, I am very against the free market because it hurts our Domestic economy and leaves us hostage to foreign powers that don't have our best interests in mind. The free market in it's current form is nothing but a lolberg meme.

A nation's government exists to lookout for the people of that nation. It doesn't exist to protect the profits of globalists or to provide an easy escape hatch to those from fucked up societies that are unwilling to make the effort to improve their own countries. Why should the federal government protect (((their))) interests instead of those of the average American?

There is no real free market hence our own elite and allies are putting native workers against 3rd world slave labor a first world society will never be able to compete with a bowl of rice and a wipe a day and will eventually lead and has lead to umsustainability in our own labor force and economy. This is also a facet in the whole Environmentalist farce liberals must face, the west can creat as many regulations as they want to reduce pollution but the Asian and South American governments will continue to take advantage of this and ramp up unregulated manufacturing and slave labor and eventually overtake us in every regard. Unless liberal are ready to go full imperialism and enforce our values and regulations on other markets we will have to create a coalition of us and the major allied markets to not purchase from them until they comply this is the same concept that will solve the slave labor issue and resolve the unfair connection competition western workers face.

Liberals are stuck in a corner over this issue

That implies that our allies can spin up their manufacturing quickly enough, and that we even have allies, rather than a boatload of neutral parties who aren't willing to risk their manufacturing relationships.

And I'm not talking about high-skill military manufacturing, but domestic goods. We still need to keep domestic tranquility on the homefront, and part of that is access to good/services at reasonable prices (imports could cause prices to skyrocket if the countries know they have us by the balls). If you don't have that access, you wind up with black markets for good/services, violence goes up, and things go downhill on the homefront while your cops/firemen are your likely drafted picks since they already have some pseudo-rank structure and are almost guaranteed to be physically fit to serve. If you can't get an air conditioner and old ladies start dying in their apartments en masse, you'll have a boatload of pissed off citizens.

But to address the military part, most of our military is actually surprisingly decrepit old stuff from Vietnam era at this point. We've got some limited newer stuff, but a lot of it is older platforms and we're cannibalizing some for parts for others. The problem there has been the consolidation into the big 5 or so defense contractors who can now virtually name their price, because they're the only ones with the talent to do those kinds of things.

Basically, factory workers are cucks. And they deserve to be cucks because they let themselves be cucked. American wants to uncuck them but it will fail because, like Sup Forums, they secretly want to be cucked so they can be mad about it.

Wip*
Unfair competition the western workers face*

SEEThe need for factory workers and manual manufacturers exist and all of America is being cucked out of this because we lie to ourselves we live in a free market while globalist Jews pit American workers with slave labor and liberal useful idiots don't care because slave labor and environmental issues in another nation don't really matter to them.

>What's so special about low-skill manufacturing workers in the Midwest that the whole election season has to revolve around the

There are over 60 million armed white men in America. If you don't offer them a future that doesn't require the violent overthrow of the current regime and extermination of other races... then that's exactly what you will get.

Liberals are literally making fun of poor people now.

The socioeconomic revolution had to start somewhere. Certainly wasn't going to start with upperclass/upper middle class white liberals or the blacks that they take advantage of in exchange for votes.

I agree.

Just ship out all the jobs. Fuck it. Who needs jobs here.

lol I'm so afraid of a bunch of fat cucks with guns against the strongest army on the planet. Obongo could wipe them out playing with drones on his iPad. Not exactly threatening.

>What's so special about low-skill manufacturing workers in the Midwest

Nothing, nada, nothing at all. Please, just keep ignoring them. Ridiculing them. Keep it up, please. I've seen how that movie ends..

I'm sure that's why he has us in multiple skirmishes around the middle east with less people and less weaponry....

Lol learn history cuck

Sorry, but the midwest is made up of cuck white men who enjoy watching nigger porn and got fucked over by wetbacks. Us real white men find them stupid and easily fooled.

This

For socialist borderline commie cuck s they sure don't know their own history of getting their Shit leveled by the common man

>A nation's government exists to lookout for the people of that nation.
>literally asking for a nanny state
The government's job is to protect freedom including doing national defense, not ensure you have a comfy job and a house and a wife

Actually, that is exactly a real free market. You losing in the competition doesn't mean the market wasn't free.

>This is also a facet in the whole Environmentalist farce liberals must face, the west can creat as many regulations as they want to reduce pollution but the Asian and South American governments will continue to take advantage of this and ramp up unregulated manufacturing and slave labor and eventually overtake us in every regard. Unless liberal are ready to go full imperialism and enforce our values and regulations on other markets we will have to create a coalition of us and the major allied markets to not purchase from them until they comply this is the same concept that will solve the slave labor issue and resolve the unfair connection competition western workers face.
If only we could put regulations enforcing higher wages, worker rights, and environmental protections into FTAs involving Asian nations. We could call it...the TPP

>they're hurting our feelings, we need a revolution!
sure is tumblr in here

Who's ridiculing them? Certainly not me. I'm just tired of this class of people getting disproportionate privileges from the federal government.
What other people have their jobs protected at the expense of the whole American people?

That army tends to be the sons and daughters of the 60 million fat cucks with guns. What now, faggot? Do you think they will slaughter their own kind for some arrogant negro with an ipad?

lol, so edgy.

>now /r/pol likes socialism, pathetic
national socialism, yes

Sorry m8 thee is simply no evidence of this the coasts are full of Niggers and Shit skins cucking the white man I live in Baltimore for one. The real truth is your in a corner with this argument and your arguing to continue down a path where all of our manufacturing and labor jobs go to another nation... In essence you are supporting cuckery and thanking them for it.


It's that simple

Hey, if they want to keep those jobs, do something about the wetbacks. Instead, they lay down and let the dicks enter their ass.

Manufacturing is your country's wealth generator, destroy it and your economy can no longer protect itself from downturns.

Building stuff is better than speculating on the value of abstract financial instruments like the Jews do in New York.

Sorry m8 the top does not stop our allies from doing business with them

And no m8 free market is a farce while operating with slave labor hence we need protectionism or western workers will never be able to compete its that simple.

The theme of this thread is why we have to listen to them when they just elected a man who promised deportations and a border wall.


Are you even sober right now?

Tpp*

The military....

It wasn't about the region, it was about the middle class in the entire country.

And their future needs to be preserved so that our country has a future.

>National Socialism

Found the Berniebot

This, Kek confirms.
>free market
>one of the actors is a slave-owning dictator

Because manufacturing is the lifeblood of nations.

Only dumb liberals who swallow propaganda easily disagree with this fundamental truism.

Enjoy being a dumb liberal Jew.

they vote. Not just now, but midterms, where SUPER WOKE SJW LIBERALS don't.

>What other people have their jobs protected at the expense of the whole American people?
Tenured professors and other academics that are too entrenched to fire for some reason

The American System made America a superpower and free trade will end it.

because a nation's wealth and power comes from what it produces.

Our economy was as strong as it was between the 50's and into the 70's, because we produced. American Cars were the stuff of legend. We produced tons of things. Our entire economy was based around our manufacturing output.

Without that output, what do we have left? Starbucks baristas and Bank CEO's? That's not sustainable

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well the army would kill all the farmers, but then they'd go home and some other farmers would take over 2 years later and declare victory

You make no sense. Republicans have been in charge of congress for pretty much 95% of the last 40 years. Why would they be mad at "the left"?

Daily reminder that the middle class should be the central key to power in any functional constitutional republic because the middle class working in its own self-interest both benefits the lower and upper class because they share the most tenable interests of those groups. Likewise, the disappearance of the middle class should be considered a grave threat to the healthy function of a democratic society, as the underclass threatens to create a tyranny of the majority.

So the revolution and social change would not be prevented.. Got it