Trump Threatens a 35% Tax on Companies That Outsource

Trump has proposed on Twitter a 35% tax on companies which outsource their jobs. Is this good or bad?
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Oh I hope he does it. Then all the dumbshits who voted for him won't be able to buy big screen tvs or other junk at walmart.

trips predicts the next big happening

Good. American manufacturers might actually have to *gasp* start hiring Americans again.

"threats"

Just a show for the plebs who believe in him.

In secret he promises tax cuts for the corporations.

It's a good thing, free trade is a tool of marxists and predatory internationalists. Walmart has already closed many of it's stores nationwide, catch up.

Matter of opinion, but it is exactly what he promised he would do.

Ibm outsourced my engineering job to India, fuck corporate

Would this mean that prices for stuff like electronics would shoot up?

>he thinks consumer electronics are made in America
The average liberal knowledge of the real world, everyone.

>Live Modestly
>Buy American
>Everyone is employed

as John Oliver said, he's putting on a show for the plebs that voted for him, in secret he's giving corporations a lot of corporate welfare

I think theres positive and negative consequences to that. For it to work we have to lower the min wage

>Posted by iPhone 7™

How retarded are you user?

This applies to American companies.
Not Samsung, Sony, Sharp, etc.

> listens to Oliver

fuck out of our thread, Peter Pan

If true it's going to kill construction.
Five of the last jobs I was on were 1099, which is out sourcing your labour.

House prices are going to triple in my state.

>lolberg.

REEEEE MUH SHEKELS

wow, figures out that a drumpfkin would hate an intellectual entertainer like john oliver

Why pay a fat American oaf $25 an hour to work on an assembly line when you can pay a fat Mexican oaf $3 an hour for the same work? This protectionist shit is the first step towards a socialist America and is literally the road to serfdom.

Protip: Protectionism has never worked. It sounds good to the uneducated and then your economy goes into the shitter.

Great, the Socialists can't complain. Their whole ideology is that the government should own the means of production, isn't that the same as the government colluding openly with them?

What's wrong with a carrot and stick approach?

>Protectionism has never worked
other than the million times it actually worked, in your country even

Trump twit bulshit, meanwhile, he's giving the control of USA to GoldmanSachs.

t. schlomo shekelstein

go make your shit in mexico and keep it in mexico you faggot.

I can already taste the cuckservative tears.

Taxes on speculation when?

>as John Oliver said

>$7 million tax break, costs the Treasury nothing, saves 1,100 jobs which will result in far more than $7 million in state/federal taxes "WELFARE"
>$79.7 BILLION tax GRANT to GM, of which $10 billion was lost, never to be recovered, Oliver's wet dream
The man needs to die.

Good if this didn't affect American companies in Europe doing products for Europe market.

Bad. Business will think twice about expanding or creating in the us.
They outsource because other people have a compartive advantage compared to americans, meaning they are more productive. This also lowers prices for americans.
Higher prices, lower standards of living and less business activity will come if he actually does this

> free trade is a tool of marxists

yet tariffs are imposed by true law abiding peoples who only want law and order and not the jew at all

Companies are already good at holding their profits in tax havens. What does it matter if they incur another fictional tax?

Besides, even if Trump wants to play the tariff war- what do you think other countries are going to do? do you think they're going to sit by and let the U.S. raise tariffs without recourse? Or do you think those other countries will raise tariffs of their own on American products? And who will win that war? Hint: the countries that allow the greatest exploitation of their labor, land, air, and water.

Eventually other countries won't be able to buy U.S. goods and our markets will collapse (along with other developed countries playing the tariff game). Or, we'll declare war and impose trade embargos.

Either way, the U.S. labor force isn't going to win. Welcome to the world. It's ran by and for corporations.

>is a tool of marxists
I don't think you understand what a marxist is.

>taxing companies that already want to leave the US because of high costs and regulations

Genius.

A retarded lefty appears

No dumbshit, if he puts up a tariff then consumer electronics that are getting made in China are gonna become way expensive. Also protectionism is a liberal idea.

as John Oliver showed back in June, right wing loonies have been conditioned to associate everything to "Marxism" because they were fed a (false and debunked) conspiracy theory that globalism is actually a soft form of cultural Marxism (totally false)

>jews leave the US
>everything improves instantly
>jews get killed by the hordes of muslims everywhere else
i dont see the down side here.

>is blissfully unaware trump threatened china with the a high tariff during the campaign

"Jul 21, 2016 - Yes, Trump is serious about a 45% tariff on Chinese imports says his policy advisor, because you have to get tough to stop trade cheaters."

dumbshit

That's the entire fucking point.
We could be self sufficient, if we chose to be.
We don't need to rely on sandniggers for energy, and we don't need to rely on worst korea for shitty televisions.
We simply do because ((((they)))) get the most profit out of it.

>as John Oliver said,
>John Oliver
kill yourself ASAP

The real solution is to open the borders and kill minimum wage and welfare. Immigration isn't a problem if welfare isn't a problem. We'll create more, better jobs building for, providing services to, and selling shit to minimum market wage immigrants than we ever will with using protectionism to prop up current jobs. Comes with the added bonus of our manufacturers being able to compete in the global market, America might become an exporter again.

I always wondered why we didn't do this with middle school, i even remember proposing the idea to some adults at a family party when they were complaining about DEY TOOK OUR JOBS. Figured there must be some downside to it and i was just a stupid kid.

>be delusional, ignore automation, will never give up computer and video games

this is what lolbertarians actually believe

Like when?
>inb4 he conflates growth from industrial revolution to protectionist policies

DOES NOT APPLY TO FOREIGN COMPANIES
>DOES NOT APPLY TO FOREIGN COMPANIES
DOES NOT APPLY TO FOREIGN COMPANIES
>DOES NOT APPLY TO FOREIGN COMPANIES
Are you getting it yet?

Top laff

Do you?

>2016 man
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"Jul 21, 2016 - Yes, Trump is serious about a 45% tariff on Chinese imports says his policy advisor, because you have to get tough to stop trade cheaters."

So taxes are okay as long as you punish people with it? wew lad. So which was is it poll, I thought you were cut and dry on the issue of taxes.

This

What you retarded market interventionists fail to realize is that those businesses exist in the US (and not in the EU for an example) purely because they weren't being forced into arbitrary shit. The more you force them to do stuff, the less incentive will there be for capital to flee inside the US. Quite the contrary even, companies might tell you to go fuck yourself and flee to the EU, who will instantly seize the opportunity and provide them a tax haven with no bullshit intervention.

And what is going to happen then, Trump is going to throw another autistic fit and intervene again, warning that companies who flee to Europe will be further restrained from their freedoms?

But why am I even typing this lmao, keep doing what you're doing, keep pushing capital away into our hands. I will gladly enjoy my wage multiplying by the end of the decade

>oh no my $1 can opener is going to cost $1.45 now
>buying anything beyond garbage throw-away quality that's made in China
Good, fuck you. You deserve it.

>Let's reward companies when they do what we want and punish them when they do things we don't want

What is the problem with that?

America in the 1800s and 1900s
Germany in the 30s
Germany and Japan post WW2
Argentina post WW2 (no, Argentina isn't shit because of protectionism, it went to shit with free trade in the 70s)
etc.

>gib jobs to Americans who are entitled to a retarded wage and a job, or else!
Americans are retarded beyond comprehension, and white trumpfags really are the niggers of white people

Anyways I doubt he'll be closing any of his own outsourcing businesses, or all the businesses of his children who produce tons of shit in china while complaining about globalism

i don't disagree with you. But most people would be upset about that kind of change.

>Why
Because if you don't, you have to pay a 35% tax on your imports.

I think it's funnier if you don't correct them. I love to see such smart conclusions on this board.

*tips menorah*

It's a deterrent.
Plant your roots at home and your taxes will be the best in the world.
Get rekt chinks.

There's a yuge difference between sufficiency and being efficient. Of course the US could just shut all its trade deals and fend for itself. But hyperinflation would then cripple the economy.

Okay fine, does not apply to foreign companies (which is false btw, he's definitely going to tariff imports across the board). Even if he did, American businesses are still making tons of products in China and are not going to move. So prices for consumer electronics and other products are gonna increase in price because of more dumb taxes.

Personallly who gives a fuck. We shouldn't be lowering our standards for the likes of China just to compete with them, when a good chunk of their people live in cages and eat paper and cat food.

>.We simply do because ((((they)))) get the most profit out of it.

No, we do because trump voters who shop at walmart would be unable or unwilling to pay the increased cost for a tv made in the US

You are aware trump has his ties and other shit made in China?

>has proposed on Twitter
he has been talking about this whole fucking year.

>If true it's going to kill construction.
What is supply and demand?

Whatever you fag. I'll happily pay more for goods and services if it means saving our country from your globalist clutches.

Basically, there will be more factories in the U.S. Problem: there will be almost completely automated. So, no new jobs and the cost of goods will go up.

Why are you citing fake news user?

>"I'm not a journalist, I'm a comedian."

>as john oliver said....

> germany in the 30s

You're a fucking idiot. Any gains germany made in this period are complete bullshit because of the funny-money reichmark and the fact that they were paying laborers with IOUs. The reich's economy was on the way to collapse when they entered WW2.

Because then the fat American oaf is placed on welfare and those that are still working will have to subsidize his lifestyle of being fat, therefore you will be making less money overall. Perpetuate this and you should see the issue with globalization and "free" trade.

TVs and other crap are way too fucking cheap. The electric Jew has completely destroyed the minds of every generation since the boomers and should be discouraged.

Yas queen

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And yet it's every other country's protectionism that's butt fucking us. Wouldn't it just be nice of we could all just drop the nonsense and come together as a global freemarket. Learning respect for each other through our mutual benefits and commerce. But we can't because everyone else just uses our good graces as an opportunity to take advantage.

Well I think America going on a "nice guy" strike is exactly what the world needs. America is afraid to be aggressive because we know that our actions could plunge the world into chaos. I say that's what we need. Let the commies and shiesters of the world see what it's like when America stops being the gentle giant. Afterward we can revisit this question of free trade and government noninterference, and see how everyone feels about it.

We need to get rid of most welfare programs too. Then he can improve himself so that he's actually employable in the modern economy or he will die off.

Neat.

However he seems all happy about giving a huge tax break to Carrier that is sending 1,300 jobs to Mexico. So it seems that he is saying one thing and going to do another.

The US is a shrinking portion of the world market. Still the largest market, but each year that decreases. China can sell many other places they couldn't just a few years ago.

Broad-based tarriffs were tried before in the US. The Smoot-hawley Tariffs were a disaster.

Good. Suffer not traitors to live.

To those arguing shit will get expensive, it could be offset with some automation.

If American farms rely on illegal beaners, who will undoubtedly become a burden to taxpayers (welfare, using up goods/services they don't contribute much on, breed like rabbits, etc.), they can fully automate (if not, mostly automated) and they won't need illegal beaners anymore.

For manufacturing and other jobs that will remain or come back, they can find a balance between human labor and automation. It's doable. Only (((investors))) would get fucked, but fuck (((them))). America > (((investors))). If they think of fighting back, there are always drones with their names on it. America isn't some 3rd world - it could kill anyone and their families at any time.

Also, automation systems is an industry on its own. Creating and maintaining automation systems means jobs.

But that's just part of the equation. New job-creating industries must be created to provide Americans with jobs.

Except they're accurate. It's kinda a pleb move to use late night tv as a primary source but it's better than getting your news from Moscow.

All the concern trolling and shilling by commie neckbeards and berniecucks is hilarious

Is there any logic involved in this though? On one hand he talks about cutting taxes, and then he talks about giving taxes on companies that outsource, so this would be his logic right, to keep these companies here. Then what? It seems it does greatest for them and less for us?Sure it saves jobs by keeping them here, but all of these will be screw turning jobs for fuck sakes. I mean I see the struggle there between USA and China, but do we really want more shitty jobs staying here? God bless him for trying to save jobs, but really how will this work on the long run, not for the companies, but for people.

>America is afraid to be aggressive because we know that our actions could plunge the world into chaos.

This is the kind of dumb-shit thinking of trump supporters. No knowledge of anything.

How much US debt is owned by other countries? Do you know what that means?

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>You are aware trump has his ties and other shit made in China?
Keenly. And as such he's probably learned quite a bit about how disgusting they are to work with and how they deserve everything that's coming to them.
Also, I'm sure with your staggering intelligence quotient you'll agree that if you buy a TV made in China at Walmart it'll likely be broken in 1-2 years whereas one made even with marginally high standards in Korea will last 5+.
Your argument is in shambles.

Does the guy in the video have autism?
He says tarif instead of tariff.

>Companies are already good at holding their profits in tax havens. What does it matter if they incur another fictional tax?

Lower corporate tax rates in the USA (per Trumps plan) induce corporations to move the money back.

"Besides, even if Trump wants to play the tariff war- what do you think other countries are going to do? do you think they're going to sit by and let the U.S. raise tariffs without recourse? Or do you think those other countries will raise tariffs of their own on American products? And who will win that war? Hint: the countries that allow the greatest exploitation of their labor, land, air, and water."

It's nice to be a target export market. In the game between buyer and seller, who had the power? I believe its the buyer.

"Eventually other countries won't be able to buy U.S. goods and our markets will collapse (along with other developed countries playing the tariff game). Or, we'll declare war and impose trade embargos."

See prior answer.

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Either way, the U.S. labor force isn't going to win. Welcome to the world. It's ran by and for corporations.

It WAS. Thank god for Trump!

Like I said, the growth in the US during that time came from technological advancements during the industrial revolution. The Great Depression was actually exacerbated by their protectionist policies as they lacked any way to stabilize prices during that time. After WWII when they moved toward free trade they were able to actually grow at a faster rate.
Also if you think Germany and Japan after the war were in any way protectionist you need to go back to school.

>free trade is a tool of marxists

Just when you thought Sup Forums couldn't get any dumber.

>argues the tariff prices will be offset by automation. Automation which will decrease the numbers of workers, the very people who would be buying those goods.

unreal

>$1000 television made in China is going to cost an extra $450
>or buy a $1200 television made in America that you only ever considered buying because Trump put up a tariff
You don't see a problem here?

>Trump does what he said he would do
>people are just now hearing about this

So only "American" companies will face tariffs?

So Chinese goods made in China, sold in the US, won't be tariffed?
A company incorporated in the Bermudas or Ireland selling goods in the US won't be tariffed?
High paying jobs like engineers, are okay to outsource as long as the low paying dead end factory jobs stay so they can say its "made" in the USA.

And this is supposed to help Americans?