What would you do if you found out that your dad, who died recently, did not receive pay for 6 months of the last year he worked?
You would be furious. You would go after the company with a legal team trying vehemently to get every penny he earned and more (compensation for the theft). You would be justified in doing so.
Now imagine that it was your great grandfather. You find out that he worked hard HIS ENTIRE LIFE WITHOUT EVER BEING PAID. He was slave. A hard working man who was forced to work his whole life for no pay. You would rightfully be outraged. You would be completely justified in trying to recover the money that your great grandfather had earned.
Now you see why we must pay reparations for slavery. It is the right thing to do, and if your loved one had worked without receiving pay, you would rightfully seek out the funds that are owed to him and his family. We must reparations to the family of slaves. It is the right thing to do.
I wouldn't be furious about the lost pay if my dad was someone else's stolen property.
Jackson Ward
Fuck off, if we even entertain this idea we'd have to start paying out to so many other groups
Isaac Carter
The difference is that my grandfather wasn't a nigger.
Zachary Lopez
I should also be paid for going to public school. That shit was worse than a 9-5 job. Obviously places with a majority black population would pay more. But you have to actually attend class to get paid.
Nicholas James
Nope. Just the family of slave owners.
Jackson Sanchez
Keep crying, nigger. You may be free physically, but the kikes have poisoned your mind. You are still a slave.
Brayden Morgan
You realize that most blacks in America are decended from Slaveowners, are they gonna pay reperations to themselves?
Jack Wilson
>You would go after the company with a legal team trying vehemently to get every penny he earned slaves earned their life, or do you need to look up the definition of slavery. the ones you should be mad at are the "brothers" that sold you to the white man
Dylan Campbell
Jewish guy here. I don't spend my time suing Germany for reparations for what they did to my ancestors. Blacks also have no right to demand reparations
I didn't personally get any. I don't know enough about it and I'm too lazy to look it up, but I bet they paid reparations to only the generation that was directly impacted by it. Not people hundreds of years later.
Nobody alive was a slave. The oldest person alive probably didn't even KNOW a slave
Xavier Robinson
Now imagine that everybody involved in the companies that didn't pay your father or grandfather has been dead for a century. DON'T YOU THINK THEIR GRANDCHILDREN ARE PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS ATROCITY? OH GOD, WHY?
Isaac Clark
nope.
Ayden Martinez
not to the descendants, only the survivors of the holocaust
Mason Peterson
Proper reparations: deportation back to Africa
Jacob Thompson
>You find out that he worked hard HIS ENTIRE LIFE WITHOUT EVER BEING PAID okay so, 40 years with a wage of 0, and having none of that being paid, comes out to 0 Add compounding interest, and you get...
$0.00 Would you like that in coins or bills?
Ryder Butler
No
The case for not giving reparations By Sane White America
Jace Flores
My family are second generation German immigrants. Do I have to pay? And if so, why the fuck should I?
David Thompson
That was an explicitly dubious legal argument and you know it.
What you meant to say: >I'm a good person >everyone who disagrees with me is a shitlord >What I say is right >You have to agree with me unless you're a shitlord, shitlords!
Dominic Brooks
Would you ask for the wages your grandfather was owed plus extra? No. You would only ask for the wages he was owed. How much was the wage for a black slave? $0.00. So, blacks are due reparations to the amount of $0.00. Thanks for playing
Jacob Rodriguez
I am not kissing up to them, I am suggesting we do the right thing.
Again, if someone forced your father into slavery and then killed him, you would want compensation.
the reason africa is so fucked up is because of European colonization. Before we fucked it up, Africa was largely harmonious and peaceful. They actually didn't have a concept of war, we introduced it to them.
William Wood
not that hard. Literally all black people in south during the time of slavery were slaves.
Zachary Moore
>I don't spend my time suing Germany for reparations Its almost as if you cant prove an ancestor of yours was damaged.
Eli Green
Housed, fed and clothed in return for labor, some got an education, others treated like family members. But most importantly, slaves were property. So here is my question, do you pay your lightbulbs for lighting up your house?
Dominic Flores
It's not the right thing to do, Because your attaching physical or mental reparation to times in which attitudes are vastly different then the current.
If every wronged race deserved reparations, Then 90% of current races would owe another. The same people breaching Slave familes should receive reperations should in turn dedicate there life as a slave to helping the many tribal families there ancestor butchered in the past.
Actually you know what, For the hell we should get something moving about black people paying there life's money to Jewish people for the enslavement of the Israelite's whenever they mention they are the decedent of the Egyptian kings.
Liam Gray
okay so glad we agree that the idea of reparations is fucking retarded then
Mason Morales
dont you gus already do that and call it social welfare anyway? how big is the difference between money paid into it and money ettin out of it given blacks on average have alower income but recieve the tax-dollars-at-work (streets, schools etc.) too, should that be taken into account as well, I wonder.
Hunter Turner
Well, their grandchildren inherited the money earned from the slaves' labor. They also benefited from the land and property they inherited that was purchased likely by the money earned by slave labor.
Andrew Wright
You'll get paid reparations as soon as you pay what you owe my ancestors for dying to free your ungrateful nigger asses.
Elijah Stewart
There have been slaves throughout history. Fuck off.
Sage the troll retards
Camden Richardson
>Before we fucked it up, Africa was largely harmonious and peaceful. >Egyptian wars with Levantine tribes and Sea People >Greek conquest of Egypt >Roman conquest of Egypt >Islamic conquest of Egypt >Barbary slave trade >East African slave trade >Ottoman Africa's Barbary states >Ottoman Africa Get the fuck out
Charles Kelly
Slavery was the greatest thing to ever happen to black people and the worst thing to ever happen to white americans. Reparations on the condition of repatriation is the only acceptable solution
Samuel Diaz
>didn't have a concept of war. Wew lad.
Isaac Walker
>Again, if someone forced your father into slavery and then killed him, you would want compensation.
The American legal system is individualist. You have to have individual standing for damages. You can claim damages for the loss of a parent's lawful income, or any other legal guardian, because they were your legal guardian and you were directly injured by the loss of income.
You can't claim injury from injuries done to distant relatives any more than you can be held financially liable for the debts of distant relatives (there's an even higher standard for criminal law).
This is a good system, user. The alternative is collectivism, where you can be charged with the crimes of your parents. Such systems were common all over the world before the industrial revolution and they were uniformly terrible.
Ian Diaz
How about blacks get paid reparations but they have to go back to Africa and lose American citizenship. If we try to repair history, let's fix it all the way. I would go for that.
Angel Roberts
Slavery is a meme
Aiden Garcia
This is spurious as hell and you know it. Not every non-black in the US owns what was once a plantation, or that was bought by profiting from slavery. I know you're b8ing, I'm not sure why I'm replying to you. It's really absurd to think that most property-owners in the US are able to own property because a few Southerners owned slaves.
Shit man all those niggers did was pick cotton now they all sit around getting paid for doing nothing id say welfare is their reperations
Blake Gonzalez
People are not property, they are people, you fucking piece of shit.
If you literally believe that black people are property then you should kill your self
Michael Carter
Niggers go their whole lives nowadays without ever working 1 full time job.
If that wasn't lazy enough, they are still allowed to breed and vote.
If they don't care about any of that, they can just kill someone and be taken care of the rest of their lives while visiting their fathers in prison.
All of this on the taxpayers back.
The only thing we owe the niggers is a free one-way plane ticket to an African country and to terminate their citizenship.
Benjamin Edwards
How much do you want Tyrone?
Caleb Diaz
>we must pay reparations for slavery I agree. Every negro in America should be given a one-way ticket to Liberia.
Carson Carter
yes, yes you are.
Start buy selling all of your stuff and giving the proceeds to the NAACP, then sell yourself into slavery and have the proceeds sent along too... then I will believe your serious
until then, do us a favor and kill yourself.
Joshua Mitchell
>Money that the slaves earned in 1702 Every nigger gets 25c in 2016
Ayden Kelly
what welfare? do you even understand how welfare works in the US?
Eli Howard
Well, legally, that's what slaves are. You can rant about 'muh morality' all you want but it doesn't matter. The definition of slavery generally entails the ownership of a person. People are essentially free, which means that they can own each other.
Luis Morgan
y tho
Caleb Brown
you just made up all that shit
Carter Bell
Keep dreaming, because it's never going to happen.
Only like 15-20% of Americans support cash reparations for descendants of slaves. It's overwhelmingly supported by blacks (about 15% of the population, remember) for obvious reasons since they stand to benefit, but almost nobody else. Reparations would be political suicide, nobody in office is stupid enough to actually try to push it through Congress.
And with the US becoming more Hispanic and populated by people whose ancestors only came here a generation or two ago and had absolutely nothing to do with slavery, it will only become even more unpopular.
Not to mention whites have already been paying reparations to blacks in the form of welfare, public housing, affirmative action, etc. for decades.
tl;dr: It's never going to happen.
Ian Morris
Did you know that only 1.6% of the US population actually owned slaves? Do you understand that the country at large is not responsible for these citizen's private damages? The blacks in question must sue the plantation owning family trees for damages and win. It is less than 2 million people, and most of them are broke. Their plantations and heritage have been absorbed by Monsanto & Wall Street. These folks would simply default on the damages, no blacks would ever get payed. How does reparations for one slave divide out over one black family tree? Wages adjusted for current year are still nothing divided over 100 people. That's a 700 dollar check, that a black person gets once, and then never ever again because the case is literally settled. It isn't like a welfare check, you ignorant piece of shit.
Did you know that "reparations" are literally the fees paid by the LOSER in a WAR? The loser pays the victor; that is literally what "reparations" are and how they work. It's a military term. You fucking liberals are uneducated.
Jack Campbell
No they simply bought citizenship through manual labour and now their descendants are first world citizens instead of African dumb niggers
Isaiah Jackson
gets me every time
Thomas Diaz
>ou would be furious. You would go after the company with a legal team trying vehemently to get every penny That's your first thought in this scenario? Really makes me think.
Benjamin Rivera
Ugh, it's true, Alexander the Great didn't exist :( you got me
Hudson Turner
How have we not paid reparations? >education >roads >houses >technology A few years of slavery for everything they currently have.
Samuel Turner
So are you paid by Soros or CTR or what? I can tell you're being paid by the combination of persistence, selective response, and idiotic sounding arguments without the idiocy.
How long is the script you're supposed to use? Are there copypasta formulas for easy replies? Is there a checklist for which posts you decide to respond to?
Is the pay decent? A friend of mine is a shut-in NEET and I've been trying to get him any job at all for years.
Adrian Nelson
>rapeanations
Fuck off.
Jeremiah Evans
bro, american green blood here... there was a good 400 years my ancestors worked for no pay. SHOVE OFF!
Jace Torres
>Ta-Nehisi Coates
Sounds like a Star Trek character.
Luke Rogers
'Groids never paid their fare to America ---got a free ride. They should now work hard to pay wonderful white folks.
Jeremiah James
I'm perfectly fine with giving reparations to the African American community at such a time as they can prove responsible enough to not piss it away on booze and footwear.
Brayden Gray
t. black guy This feels like bait because it's posted on Sup Forums of all places, but I'll bite
If you were a slave then yeah, reparations would be the right thing to do. However, since I'm sure there aren't any immortal black people around who were slaves, they should not get reparations. To be honest, before I started lurking Sup Forums I thought the whole reparations thing was a meme.
Nobody owns you. Nobody is stopping you from getting an education. And definitely, nobody is stopping you from getting a job. Apparently a lot of black folks still blame "the white man" for their problems instead of rising up and handling those problems themselves. That mentality has to go...
Liam Morales
Are you even trying?
Also, aren't you faggots always whining about generational wealth anyway? Why the fuck should some kid get paid for the work his ancestors did?
The state would have to tax reparations as income regardless, so reparations are just blatant state sanctioned theft from people who actually work for a living. It's the worst kind of socialism because it distributes wealth to people who didn't do any work to correlate with the payment.
Reparations are literally paychecks to people who were born out of the right vagina. How can you reconcile that with all of your oligarchical critiques?
PROTIP: you can't.
Jesus you fuckers are retarded
Jaxon Carter
The idea that they're "black people" part of a "black community" needs to go.
Race is a 14th Century pseudoscience. It's amazing that these people call themselves progressives, but are locked in the middle ages on policy.
Ayden White
>Race is a 14th Century pseudoscience (you)
Luis Lewis
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_race_concepts#Middle_Ages >In the 14th century, the Islamic sociologist Ibn Khaldun, a proponent dispelled the Babylonian Talmud's account of peoples and their characteristics as a myth. >He wrote that black skin was due to the hot climate of sub-Saharan Africa and not due to the descendants of Ham being cursed. >Later, during the European colonial era, Ibn Khaldun's work was translated into French, especially for use in Algeria, but in the process, the work was transformed from local knowledge to colonial categories of knowledge.
If you believe you belong to a race, you are buying into a 14th Century con job by Muslims to justify enslavement of their co-religionists after Europeans and the Ottomans closed off access to traditional slave markets in Eastern Europe.
>Who are you who do not know your history?
Jayden Torres
>only 1.6% of the US owned slaves
Woah ! that totally makes slavery okay then!
Mason Barnes
>Race is a 14th Century pseudoscience.
Yea, there's no way you can tell a knuckle-dragging boot-lipped shit-colored ape from a human white person.
It's not so much race in this case... they aren't even the same species.
Brody Barnes
Well that too. I don't believe in letting what race you are dictate who you are as a person. Don't act white, or act black. Just behave like a civilized human being.
Camden Robinson
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Samuel Taylor
Yes the American blacks who want reparations should go to Africa and track down the decendents of the Black African slave traders who rounded up and sold their own kind to the white man.
Cameron Harris
Yup, literally every single person who disagrees with you is ctr. There is not a single person out of the millions of monthly Sup Forums visitors that disagrees with you. They are all paid shills, specifically paid by the clinton campaign. We are paid by a campaign that doesn't exist anymore and receives no funding, yet we still get money somehow.
Cooper Bailey
If we are the same in intelligence and race is a social construct can you attempt to explain my picture
Isaiah Wood
>Moral debts of our ancestors Yeah, let's take a lesson in government policy from NORTH KOREA and punish people for what their ancestors did...
Wyatt White
Also the black Americans who are descendants of slaves should track down the descendants of slave owners and give them money and thanks for bringing them here as opposed from leaving them in that AIDS ridden shit water drinking land called Africa.
Samuel Sanders
How would you feel if your father killed someone but died so you went to jail for him?
Austin Young
Self-described white people should understand how they have incentivized black people to adopt a collectivist subculture in America. Part of the reason they suck so much is that they feel like they are expected to suck, expected to leech off welfare, expected to turn to crime, expected to be rapists, and so on. They are expected to turn to leaders of their own skin color, they are expected to vote as a group, they are expected to protect each other instead of turning to the police.
You can keep race if you value it so much, but along with your self-proclaimed superiority you get a hereditary class of poor people who are socialized to self-segregate into political groups that are opposed to you.
Maybe stop treating society like an AR game?
Carter Nelson
Exactly my point. Blacks in America should thank God everytime they see a white man for taking them out of that shit country
Aiden Ross
Considering my Dad is an Alcoholic who has never been in my life, I would be happy as fuck. I am white btw.
Levi Lewis
Have Islam pay me for 1500 years of murder, rape, theft, and slavery first.
Joseph Watson
why the fuck should we give you money for the pain and suffering for your grandfather? why should i apologize for something i had nothing to do with? why did your peoples rival tribes sell you to us in the first place? why do you deserve money for the suffering of someone you dont even know? tbqh you should be thanking us for taking you out of africa and attempting to civilize you why do you even care?
Dominic Reed
OP here.
I actually don't give 2 shits about reparations. I am just shit posting. It is so easy to trigger you guys and start a thread that ends up with 100s of replies. It is so easy.
I snort oxycodone and then do this trolling all night. I have 2 other threads up right now with over 100 replies. Oxycodone and trolling you idiots is my kind of night. I am also ripping out my pube hair into little knots and collecting them.
Chao!
Christian Robinson
The people who largely instill those mindsets in blacks is... other blacks.
Maybe they should come out from under the oppressive blanket of their culture of victimhood that they've installed.
Xavier Gutierrez
THIS THREAD IS THE RESULT OF LEFTISTS RAIDING Sup Forums
DISCARD, SAGE AND IGNORE
Jaxson Jackson
>i was only pretending to be retarded
Carter Powell
spin it around and see how it looks like. your father have not paid his "workers" for 6 months now he died and the "workers" wants YOU to pay. you father never stated that he would pay the slaves nor did you said you would. why would your grand son be blammed on this?
Luke White
When you say self described white people you mean Democrats right? Democrats are the ones who have fucked blacks. Always have always will. With that said it is in part the blacks fault for letting themselves be so easily brainwashed.
Jaxon Jones
This is exactly what I mean. You'll respond to the hot button issues, but not anything that requires you to actually engage with the people you're replying to. Your posts are pretty indistinguishable from a bot, DESU. Intelligence is learnable and in most of the ways we have figured out how to measure it, indistinguishable from education.
Do you really think the first Italian emerged from a cave with an engineering degree?
No, technological advance is an inherently iterative process. Simple tools are used to make more refined tools. More refined tools are used to make more sophisticated tools. Sophisticated tools are used to make complex tools.
The process is long and complex itself, often taking generations before the next tier of complexity is enabled by decades or centuries of iterative improvements. Jumps get made through foreign trade. Investments in education, enabled by advancements in technology, speed up the progress.
The relative technology levels of different societies at different times and places is better explained by Sid Meier's Civilization than by half-baked color coding schemes for people.
