Whats so bad about the EU?

Whats so bad about the EU?

mandatory cultural marxism on top of all the actual marxism

Better question. What is so good about it?

Every european country is too weak to get anything done by themselves.

A non-unified europe is a europe that the superpowers (Russia, USA and China) can bully in anyway they like.

We are not doing ourselves any favors exiting EU. With EU, there are countries that wants to join because their alternative is fucking shitty (look at Ukraine who wanted to stop being dependant of Russia).

The truth is that Russia wants EU to go away and dumb nationalists are just playing Putin into his hands.

over regulation and unaccountable bureaucrats. Sure some good police may come out of the EU but eventually good ideas run out, then at that point they're paying people to just sit around and legislate.
Also since each country has to follow the same rules what works in Poland might not work in Britain and vice versa for example.

Cucks will tell you the EU helps prevent conflict between european countries but here's little known fact: Most EU member states are also a part of a military alliance with the United States and Canada.

The name escapes me at this moment however...

You say that but France, Britain and Germany would be fine without the EU. Us 3 are forced to foot the bill for everything and aren't reaching our full potential in worldwide trade due to the exclusive nature of the EU.

seriously?

and in fact even the power of NATO is debatable. What's kept the EU stable has been the 5 Eyes Network

Also freedom of movement saturates the job markets and strains the welfare systems of Britain such as benefits, the NHS, schooling and we already have a housing shortage.
It's bad for the poorer EU countries that the people are leaving, as they move to more prosperous/generous countries.

>Every european country is too weak to get anything done by themselves
It's a sad day when European nations cannot run themselves. And to think, they could just 30 years ago, but now seem to have forgot.

A mate is trying to convince me the EU is good

>The European union is the best option for the smaller resource deprived counties of Europe

He says

Intentionally reducing your national sovereignty and unelected Eurocrats telling you what to do.

They work up a system of debt and dependence on wealthier EU countries at the same time as all their labour and wealth move to the wealthier countries

angela merkel

Immigration policy, also no freedum.

poor germany trying to make up for WW2

EU is the death squad of European history.

>Agricultural subsides make farmers wealthier than they would otherwise be.
>They help fund art and music schools. I guess that's good if you like art or music
>The EU also... uh...

Is it true that EU citizens are allowed to vote in ANY EU local election?
IE French voting in German elections?

its a meme

This. Forget open borders with the world. Open borders with neighboring slav countries sucks the smart and skilled labor from them. Then nobody is left to build the economy of their home country.

>Every european country is too weak to get anything done by themselves.
You may be right about that on the international stage. European countries are demographically and economically too small to look eye to eye with Chyna.
And we will have to coordinate ourselves militarily and economically for our voice to be heard in the 21st century.

BUT:
the EU is not how it's done.
It's centralistic; it demands more and more powers to be given to Brussels. It reacts in absolutely childish denial if anyone questions if this or that is a good idea. It throws a fit when the UK wants to leave and acts like a crazy spouse who can't get over a divorce.
It's a failed experiment and we will organize Europe better after it's done. Let's hope it fails quickly so that we can get to work.
The world isn't waiting for us. We have waisted too much time with impotent actions regarding Turkey, North Africa, Euro Crisis, demography, etc. already. Let's get serious now.

EU was founded on cuckoldry.

The only EU would have made sense was one built in the model of the HRE 2.0 along HRE 1.0 borders.

This sort of.. u fucjing idiots on pol are destroy ur own countries... unless ur russian.. than glory putin.

(((Niggers on trains)))

>We are not doing ourselves any favors exiting EU. With EU, there are countries that wants to join because their alternative is fucking shitty (look at Ukraine who wanted to stop being dependant of Russia).

>The truth is that Russia wants EU to go away and dumb nationalists are just playing Putin into his hands.

>muh Russia

Russia is a shithole. Yes, they are a nuclear power and have a big army, but Russia in 2016 is like the USSR in 1986 or Russia in 1906: large in size/ population, backwards, and poor, with an economy reliant on raw material exports or oil and gas. They're not going to go to war with the EU over Latvia or shit like that. They just don't want the EU, and by extension NATO, right on their borders.

The West had about 10-15 years of somewhat normal relations with Russia after the USSR collapsed, and now we're right back to "The nefarious Bear is threatening our way of life!", with the answer the EU proposes being, "Let's abandon our national borders and cultures, and on top of that bring in millions of third-worlders whose way of life is even more distant from ours than the evil Russians!"

Here's something you might be able to understand seppo - taxation without (proportional) representation.

I.e. you give us x billion $ and we give you x billion military aged men from the middle east. Your say in this process? Nada

Like how Mexicans vote in US elections?

they never get or check e.m