Communism demolished Nazism which means that Communism is the superior ideology

Communism demolished Nazism which means that Communism is the superior ideology.

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With the help of American Capitalism and British Monarchy. Nice job commies.

Why would you go out of your way and post something like this?

Communism almost died.

And fuck FDR for not letting it collapse.

the UK was a democracy, you fucking yank

Only because we bailed the manlet out. And by that same logic, capitalism bled communism dry so it is in fact the superior system.

how did you type this while being pegged?

russia & us/england versus germany has much more to with geography than with ideology

Don't expect a swedecuck to know any better, they are committing national suicide as we speak.

whatever helps you sleep at night, cuck

Not an argument

cry more

communist and nazis are both scum though

Reminder that pic related killed millions of their European brothers and sisters and Hitler wanted to evict Slavic peoples from their native lands to make way for German settlers

it's you who will be doing the crying bub

downtown

>to slaughter millions of our brothers

fuck you you LARPing cuck. My family is of French back round and my grandfather fought to push the kraut invaders our of his "ancient homeland"

Thank god he did that too.

Paris is such a fantastic city now.

>attributing policies from the past 20 something years to an event 80 years ago

its almost as if you are being retarded on purpose

It is the superior ideology, but they both suck, so its not saying much

>that font
Is standing up for your own Ethnicity or Racial background bad?

Oh, look. It's this asshole again. How many threads have you posted today? 13? 14? Since I've been online?

>Is standing up for your own Ethnicity or Racial background bad?
No, it isn't. But that's not what the Germans did.
They invaded other European countries and attempted to evict native Slavic people from their lands.
Stop acting like racial self preservation was all the Nazis wanted, because it wasn't. They desired conquest.

>being a font autist

>moving the goalpost/strawmanning

neo-nazis attribute modern problems in the world today directly to WW2 as a way to build it up as some utopia "omg there would be no problems if hitler had won!" and its retarded.

And Im pretty sure the French people were standing up for themselves when they fought off German nazi invaders

youtube.com/watch?v=w6C5P-AYGdY

>communists on Sup Forums are one person

Communism literally fell apart on its own during peace time, that is how bad it is.

National Socialism turned a bankrupt, heavily divided country into a global hyperpower that took literally the entire world to subdue; and requires constant lies and indoctrination to keep from spontaneously rising again.

Fascism required every major power on earth and tens of millions of lives working over the course of 6 years to destroy. Communism just kind of imploded all of a sudden.

Wow sorry, so there are about 5 shitposters tops?

>Hitler wanted to evict Slavic peoples from their native lands to make way for German settlers
No he didn't. There is no evidence whatsoever for generalplan ost. Just like the holocaust, there were no documents ever found or orders intercepted (even though the allies broke the German code).

There's more than enough room in the east that you could settle german farmers without having to evict anyone. It's 99.9% wilderness. There were also already many Germans living in Russia at the time (under the subjugation of communism... many of them would be ethnically cleansed by Stalin).

> "omg there would be no problems if hitler had won!"
No one is advocating that, quit building up straw men in your head. But the idea of Nationalism most certainly would have survived if the nazis were successful. People who want nationalism see the appeal in this.

That war should have been between the Russians and the Germans and no one else. The brits and the frogs getting involved escalated it and made more suffering for everyone.

Germany was allied with Italy, Finland, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, Crotia+Vichy France, Quislings Norway and Spanish volunteers.

Stop pretending they were all alone.

>Italy
Weak ally. They put no effort in. Only 400,000 dead... less than Hungary!
>Finland
Practically a non-country. Fight wars by being so cold nobody wants to bother invading.
>Bulgaria
Another minor country
>Romania
A joke of a country
>Hungary
A mutilated country
>Slovakia
Basically a non-country
>Croatia
Had domestic problems of their own
>Vichy France
Was neutral
>Norway
Minor country with no military. Hitler had to post some 12 or so divisions there just to keep them safe from invasion.
>Spanish volunteers
Franco was so afraid of joining the war that he stopped allowing volunteers when the British sent him a telegram.

>No he didn't. There is no evidence whatsoever for generalplan ost.

yeah, other than the fact that he invaded Poland and then the soviet union

Its not a strawman, you said "look at paris" as if it would be perfect now if Hitler had won.

> But the idea of Nationalism most certainly would have survived if the nazis were successful

He wasnt a nationalist, he wanted an empire. He didnt invent nationalism or think "everyone deserves their own country!" like you neo-nazis try to pretend

>The brits and the frogs getting involved escalated it and made more suffering for everyone.

No, Hitler starting his war on conquest is what made it worse.

Hey commie faggots, I'm an economist. Explain to me why Marxists still haven't solved the transformation problem. I'll wait.

>National Socialism turned a bankrupt, heavily divided country into a global hyperpower
Which was reliant on conquest.
Had Hitler not attacked Poland and triggered the war, Germany would've been fucked.
>that took literally the entire world to subdue
False. They had plenty of their own support.

>Fascism required every major power on earth and tens of millions of lives working over the course of 6 years to destroy.
They had plenty of support themselves.
1. German Reich
2. Italy
3. Empire of Japan
4. Romania
5. Hungary
6. Finland
7. Slovakia
8. Croatia
9. Bulgaria
10. Vichy France
11. Thousands of volunteers from occupied territories

>No he didn't. There is no evidence whatsoever for generalplan ost.

Mein Kampf is all the evidence you need. Hitler speaks repeatedly of his desires for Lebensraum in the east.
You can also look at the treatment of the Soviet Union's population by German forces to get a good idea of what they were going to do once the war was over.

They came not as liberators, as the people of Belarus and Ukraine expected, but as conquerors.

>There were also already many Germans living in Russia at the time (under the subjugation of communism... many of them would be ethnically cleansed by Stalin).
Almost all if not every Volga German was deported to Germany in 1914 by the Tsar.

>There's more than enough room in the east that you could settle german farmers without having to evict anyone.
Again, read Mein Kampf.
Hitler did not believe Aryans and slavic peoples were the same races. They were not going to be mixed together.

>arguing semantics

>making shit up like "Finland is a non country" even though they successfully withstood a soviet invasion, unlike Nazi Germany

>making up a bunch of other shit about things you clearly know nothing about

Hitler wasnt alone and he lost. Also, war isnt fair so you guys sound like whiney faggots when you bring this up which goes against your whole pseudo-tough guy survival of the fittest bullshit

>yeah, other than the fact that he invaded Poland and then the soviet union
Confirmed that you're an idiot.

1. Poland was massacring German civilians. Hitler intervened for the protection of his people.
jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm

2. The USSR was threatening/warring against Romania, Finland and the Baltic States. Romania was Germany's main supplier of oil. Hitler had to launch a pre-emptive attack because it was apparant that they were launching more and more wars into Europe knowing that Britain would do nothing to stop them.
3. It's a ridiculous leap of logic to go from "he declared war" to "he wanted to ethnically cleanse all the slavs"

>gets BTFO'ed
O-oh uh, it's wrong, y-you cuck

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>You can also look at the treatment of the Soviet Union's population by German forces to get a good idea of what they were going to do once the war was over.
>They came not as liberators, as the people of Belarus and Ukraine expected, but as conquerors.
My god you are retarded. The SS are still regarded as heroes in many parts of the Ukraine. The Cossacks view Helmuth von Pannwitz (an SS officer) as one of the greatest heroes of all time for sacrificing his life to die alongside them. The Russian Liberation army had over 200,000 soldiers and was led by a Russian defector.

Italy: also fascist, but fair enough
Finland: Alliance of convenience because the Soviets were being jerks (and the USSR was humiliated by the Finns)
Vichy France: Puppet regime. Doesn't count.
Slovakia: Another puppet regime.
Volunteers: How does this disprove the strength of Fascism?

Actually, wait, how does any of this prove that fascism is weak? Most of these alliances were either puppet regimes or happened because the Soviets were being dicks, which if anything only proves the inferiority of communism further!

>every country I don't like is a non-country!
Finland alone caused more than 100,000 casualties to the Soviet union.

I also find this post pretty ironic coming from Canada of all places.

>Poland was massacring German civilians. Hitler intervened for the protection of his people.
There is zero evidence of any atrocities against ethnic Germans supported by the Polish government. If Hitler actually cared about these people, he would allow them to come home to Germany, not invade Poland and kill thousands of Polish people, subjugating them in the process.

>2. The USSR was threatening/warring against Romania, Finland and the Baltic States. Romania was Germany's main supplier of oil. Hitler had to launch a pre-emptive attack because it was apparant that they were launching more and more wars into Europe knowing that Britain would do nothing to stop them.
Funny how they agreed in the Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide these areas into their own spheres of influence under a non-aggression pact...


>Quote from your link
>"Poland wants war with Germany and Germany will not be able to avoid it even if she wants to." (Polish Marshal Rydz-Smigly as reported in the Daily Mail, August 6th, 1939)
I have seen this quote spread around for ages yet have never seen any evidence that it's real. Even if it is, it isn't valid.
1. Germany triggered hostilties
2. Poland's army was nowhere near ready for a defensive war, let alone offensive.
3. Ridz Smigly is not the leader of Poland in the 1930s.

>making shit up like "Finland is a non country" even though they successfully withstood a soviet invasion
Finland made huge concessions to the Soviet Union. What the fuck are you talking about?

>There is zero evidence of any atrocities against ethnic Germans supported by the Polish government.
Stopped reading here. You are literally retarded.

I posted 300+ pages of eyewitness testimonies and photographic evidence.

>Responding to the translator's little intro blurb instead of the actual documentation
Confirmed for mental retard

>as if it would be perfect
It would certainly be more nationalist.

>He wasnt a nationalist, he wanted an empire.
You're wrong, but that's not remotely relevant to the claim that nationalism would have survived in Europe if Hitler had won. Nationalists are immediately accused of being neo-nazis, as your post demonstrates.

>or think "everyone deserves their own country!"
Pic related.

>My god you are retarded. The SS are still regarded as heroes in many parts of the Ukraine
And in other parts they are hated. What's your point?

>The Cossacks view Helmuth von Pannwitz (an SS officer) as one of the greatest heroes of all time for sacrificing his life to die alongside them.
The Cossacks were complicit in atrocities, especially in Yugoslavia.

>The Russian Liberation army had over 200,000 soldiers and was led by a Russian defector.
The vast majority of these soldiers were at risk of going into a slave labor camp if they didn't join.

Nobody said fascism is weak. You're just acting like it was Germany against the world when it wasn't, you weabshit faggot.

>Most of these alliances were either puppet regimes or happened because the Soviets were being dicks, which if anything only proves the inferiority of communism further!
The Communists won, son. Didn't you hear the news?

Considering the blood it cost you, and that you needed to be armed and clothed by capitalist countries, I'd say you're wrong kiddo.

>He wasnt a nationalist
lolwat

>Hitler starting his war on conquest is what made it worse
The war was inevitable, fascism and communism were destined to clash. Britain just should have let it run it's course.

Instead you got WWI tier allegiances going and it triggered a domino effect that led to the US getting involved.

The proof is in the pudding - Stalin won, Hitler killed himself in disgrace, Berlin was in ruins, Germany was split up and occupied for decades, thoroughly and incurably cucked to this day.

The USSR collapsed while the US didn't which means that the US is a better ideology than the USSR.

>The vast majority of these soldiers were at risk of going into a slave labor camp if they didn't join.
He asserted without evidence.

>The Cossacks were complicit in atrocities, especially in Yugoslavia.
He said, as if it had any relevance to the conservation.

This is the second time I've seen this thread.

>1. Poland was massacring German civilians. Hitler intervened for the protection of his people

Wrong. Hitler invaded because Poland wouldnt give him the Danzig corridor. He gave the pretext of invasion with the Gleiwtiz incident, where he false flag attacked his own radio towers and blammed the Polish for it (going back on his non aggression pact with Poland)

the "bloody sunday" that you faggots always bring up didnt even happen until 3 days AFTER the nazis invaded. It happened on September 3rd and the Germans invaded on September 1s. Also, neo-nazis completely blow that event out of proportion since the HIGHEST estimates of casualties in that incident were 300, and that was from the fucking Abwehr to.

> The USSR was threatening/warring against Romania, Finland and the Baltic States.

You know why? Because that is EXACTLY what Stalin and Hitler agreed on. Hitler welcomed the soviets to invade eastern europe as part of their deal

>Romania was Germanys main oil supply

Not after the Molotov Ribbentrop pact, which made the USSR their main oil supplier

So no, this idea that Hitler was just responding to this out of the blue soviet invasion is complete bullshit you neo-nazi faggots made up

>. It's a ridiculous leap of logic to go from "he declared war" to "he wanted to ethnically cleanse all the slavs"


>And so we National Socialists consciously draw a line beneath the foreign policy tendency of
our pre-War period. We take up where we broke off six hundred years ago. We stop the endless
German movement to the south and west, and turn our gaze toward the land in the east. At long
last we break of the colonial and commercial policy of the pre-War period and shift to the soil
policy of the future.
If we speak of soil in Europe today, we can primarily have in mind only Russia and her vassal
border states.

Chapter 14 pg 475 of Mein Kampf

angelfire.com/folk/bigbaldbob88/MeinKampf.pdf

go fuck yourself stormfag

>Stalin won
Stalin threw millions of more men into a meat grinder until America saved his ass, fucking leaf. Are you commies going to admit that capitalism is superior to communism then? All your socialist states have been fucked in the ass repeatedly and humiliated by Uncle Sam with their citizens eating rats and glue.

Communism is also destroying capitalism in Korea.
youtube.com/watch?v=3h6VgACtZeU

A win is a win

cry more nazi

Both the USSR and Germany lost eventually, the difference is what it took to bring them down. Germany required Total war from the 3 major powers, while all the communist countries have either imploded or accepted capitalism.

>be swede

Capitalism >>>>>>>>> Communism/National Socialism

True but now weirdly the new Russia seems to be the good guy while under Obama the American government supports al-Qaeda in Syria.

Who says I'm a communist? I'm just here for the shitposting. Stalin did win though, of course American supplies and trucks especially played a huge part but the Red Army did take on most of the Wehrmacht and SS battalions pretty much alone.

The only thing Communism contributed to the fall of Nazism was human meat shields that had no other choice. I wouldn't expect Sweeds to take a moment from their anti depressant riddled life to understand though.

>It's a ridiculous leap of logic to go from "he declared war" to "he wanted to ethnically cleanse all the slavs"

True! Fortunately Hitler wrote all this shit down in a best-selling memoir before he was elected to anything.

He was pretty up front with wanting to ethnically cleanse all the Slavs.

>Sources: Mein Kampf by Adolt Hitler

In response to your book
>Britain declared war on Germany, yet after the Soviet Union invaded the eastern Polish territory only a few weeks later, Britain neglected to declare war on the Soviet Union. Why not, if the integrity of Poland's borders was so important?
The guarantee on Poland's independence was a line in the sand for Germany. The British policy of appeasement towards Germany was intended to avoid a war so soon after the first world war. Hitler lied about Czechoslovakia being the end of his European conquests, and thus, this had to be done to try and put him off any more expansion.
It was not for the soviets. It was meant as a line in the sand to stop the Germans going any further.

>Britain then began bombing the Ruhr Valley the day after Churchill took office (May 10, 1940), specifically targeting civilian areas in addition to industrial and military targets. The rest is history -- a shameful and gut-wrenching one.
Not the first bombings of the war.
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wieluń
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Warsaw_in_World_War_II
During the German invasion of Poland, the Luftwaffe engaged in massive air raids against Polish cities,[43] bombing civilian infrastructure[43][44] such as hospitals[42][43] and targeting fleeing refugees.[45][46][47][48] Notably, the Luftwaffe bombed Warsaw, Wieluń, and Frampol. It is believed that the bombing of Frampol was an experiment as it had no targetable industry and no military units were stationed there.

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And so we National Socialists consciously draw a line beneath the foreign policy tendency of
our pre-War period. We take up where we broke off six hundred years ago. We stop the endless
German movement to the south and west, and turn our gaze toward the land in the east. At long
last we break of the colonial and commercial policy of the pre-War period and shift to the soil
policy of the future.
If we speak of soil in Europe today, we can primarily have in mind only Russia and her vassal
border states.

I don't see a single mention of ethnic cleansing here, unlike his pretty clear cut views on Jews. Were you trying to prove something?

>The Communists won, son. Didn't you hear the news?
Only because a capitalist propped your failing ideology up.

We should have let the USSR collapse, it only made more problems as time when on.

>not pictured: the million dead conscripts in the background getting utterly BTFO

Islam defeated communism so Islam is the greater ideology

Russia didn't do shit, d- day was what killed Germany. Russia was at a stalemate and America came In an helped them. That and Nazi Germany had half the world fighting them, Russia fell because of an old ex- movie star funded some sand niggers

>It would certainly be more nationalist.

How can it be nationalist if it was under the control of Germany?

>You're wrong

No Im not. They invaded the east for imperial means. Youre not a nationalist btw, youre just a naziboo LARPer

They won bc of man power not by being the most advanced country before or after Germany lost

Nazism and Communism are two sides of the same coin, both enemies of freedom

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>take on most of the Wehrmacht
Pretty irrelevant when they were pussy deep into the USSR. Kill ratio when the number of soldiers were so lopsided is a better measure of combat ability.

I'll remember this next time we throw you faggots out of helicopters. A win is a win. Capitalism crushes inferior Communism every time. Can't wait to glass another commie shithole like North Korea.

Democracy demolished communism meaning democracy is the superior ideology.

>On Bromberg Bloody Sunday, thousands of ethnic Germans were slaughtered like pigs in an alley because the majority "poles" (the "slavic", non-Teutonic types, really Turco-Ugaric, Hunnic, Tartar and Mongoloid residue from the old "Dark Age" invasions) knew they could do so with total impunity. Marshal Pilsudski had died, and Britain's leaders had made unconditional guarantees to Poland as a pretense to ensure maximum political tensions in Eastern Europe to serve the interests of Soviet Russia. Poles in official capacity were openly laying claim to ancient German territory, were engaging in the crudest pea-brained saber-rattling, had engaged in border violations and boasted of marching thru' the gates of Berlin in 3 weeks (or days, depending on which buzzing brain was indulging in the fantasy). Poland had even stolen a chunk of "Czechoslovak" territory (Teschen) in March 1939.

>Marshal Pilsudski had died, and Britain's leaders had made unconditional guarantees to Poland as a pretense to ensure maximum political tensions in Eastern Europe to serve the interests of Soviet Russia.
Baseless claim.

>Poland had even stolen a chunk of "Czechoslovak" territory (Teschen) in March 1939.
It's not okay for Poland to take a small piece of land from Czechoslovakia, but it's okay for Germany to take everything else and then puppet Slovakia?

>Intro
>Several anti-Polish/Slavic quotes accusing them of violence
Baseless racism. Not valid arguments. Stopped here.

If you want to make a convincing argument you're going to have to provide a source that isn't a poorly designed website from the 90s and one that doesn't have baseless racist slander against Slavs in the intro.

>invaders
Maybe France shouldn't have declared war first. Germany wasn't the only country to invade poland you know

>How can it be nationalist if it was under the control of Germany?
Are you retarded or do you not understand the concept of sphere of influence, which isn't remotely incompatible with nationalism?
>No Im not.
You are.

>Youre not a nationalist btw, youre just a naziboo LARPer
If I was a naziboo LARPer, I'd be advocating for NatSoc policies and retarded German names for America. I don't. I'm just a nativist who believes in realpolitik.

You will always be a delusional faggot though.

my god! you're right

>Russia didn't do shit, d- day was what killed Germany.
This is what Ameritards actually believe.

Of the 4-5 million German soldiers who died, the vast majority died on the Eastern Front.
The most decisive battles of the war occurred there. If you compare the casualties of D-Day to a major battle on the eastern front, it'd be insignificant.

>Maybe France shouldn't have declared war first.
Poland had a guarantee of independence, which the Germans violated.
They brought war upon themselves.

not pictured
(also r8 my oc)

>Russians were terrible soldiers, so they died much more despite having a massive numbers and supply advantage. This means they won the war.

lmao