Other than welfare parasites...

Other than welfare parasites, was healthcare even that big of an issue before Obamacare came in and fucked up premiums and other costs for 80% of Americans?

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It was.
Not as big of a deal as the parasitism, but it was still a big deal.

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Tons of blue collared Americans with pre existing conditions were fugged if an uninsured family member got sick with a very expensive condition.

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1/6 of Americas GDP relies on health care. It is a permanent problem unless we innovate a new source and reduce the need to pay doctorniggers 400,000 a year because it requires 12 years of schooling

My healthcare was fine before. Post obamacare, my insurance premium doubled for the next three years. It went from 20 dollars a month finally ending at 120 and holding

It was a manufactured issue. Goal for gov to waste the people's wealth

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No, goal was to put a bandaid on a severed leg.

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Healthcare pre-obama still had many serious problems.

If you weren't financially well-off or lucky enough to have a job that offered good insurance, going to a doctor for anything short of a heart attack was an unaffordable luxury. Emergency visits were basically sentences to years of debt and/or a ruined credit rating. Tens of thousands of people per year died from shit that would've been fixed in a country with universal health care.

Of course Obamacare fixed almost none of this. The shitty exchange plans make sure the medical providers will get *some* money from the unemployed guy who shows up in the ER with a broken leg, but the deductibles (and premiums) are so high that it'll still bankrupt him anyway. Plus the "death spiral" effect will blow the whole thing up in a few years unless the insurance industry gets some more huge bailouts.

Health insurance is a predatory institution that needs to be replaced with a single payer system that can negotiate costs down. Also, doctors need to get off this messiah complex that leads them to believe they deserve $1,000 for poking at someone for 5 minutes and writing a painkiller prescription.

Fucking this. There is a big problem with our educational system when someone has to spend $200K for a degree in medical. In california there is the IGETC, fuck that. let the motherfuckers specialize directly into a degree without needing "humanitys" as a pre-requisite. Chem, bio, phyisics, math, upperdivision for a field. Would solve a lot of problems with expense, no need for 12 years of college and residency to make a practice. Needs fixing

Yeah, a lot of the modern education system is a holdover from the industrial era Chicago system which was designed for factory workers. Single-payer sounds great as the entire nation would be healthier, more able to work, would likely have more money to spend (as the current system is funded by crony tax dollars anyway) and businesses wouldnt have to pay benefits for it, but I'm unsure about how the cost of technology and drug research would factor in as the US more or less benefits the rest of the world at the expense of their own nation which is partially why the rest of the developed world has such superior healthcare to the US. Perhaps offering a paid public option to act as a benchmark to prevent companies from screwing over consumers and opening up interstate insurance would encourage competition. I believe Japan does something similar and they have one of the best healthcare systems in the world. It isn't as socialist as many Euro countries while proving room for contributing to research.

Was only a big deal to indigent care recipients... Ohhh, and the hospitals that went under due to mandatory care of indigents.

If you had a job, and it was full time, you likely had "health insurance" as a "benefit" of employment. The most cost effective, of course, were always HMOs. Sure, you had to go through some hoops to "get covered", but if you did, copays covered everything. Nothing beats having a kid for 100 dollars (or less).

Anything that wasn't (isn't) an HMO will cost you an arm and leg in premiums AND deductibles. Coming from someone that loves Trump, I will tell you this:
Obama only made it worse with the two provisions that Trump wants to keep in Obamacare.

Oh wait, I'm thinking of Germany's system

I said it earlier 1/6 of GDP is healthcare. We can not give that up without huge consequences. we have to go back

Single payer won't happen.

replacing Obamacare is going to be another issue that gets walked back once it's repealed.